Why did Yugoslavia Collapse?
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- Why did Yugoslavia Collapse?
Yugoslavia. For many, a long-forgotten failed nation. For others, an all-too-painful, and recent, memory. A once-united federation made up of six neighboring republics, Yugoslavia’s existence was never a simple one. With constant ethnic and religious division, it seems that it was only a matter of time before a breakup would be imminent. But was that the only cause of Yugoslavia’s collapse? And how did the ethnic disputes actually lead to the destruction of an entire federation?...
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The war in the balkans never ended. It continued in CZcams comment sections.
yep. this video is about the Fourth Balkan War, and the fifth is fought constantly on the internet
This makes me wanna watch "slav videos" !!!
Haha hilarious bro, did you come up with that one all by yourself?
@@lukalackovic9059 the ghost of josip broz tito whispered that in my ear
@Mm Miruza Alan snackbar
I was lucky enough to hitchhike thru Yugoslavia in 1973. Everybody was very nice and it was easy to get a ride. Country was beautiful and the food was great. Very pleasant memories of that lovely place.
Well the region is same now. Nature is beautiful (sea, mountains, national parks), people are ok, food is great and the region is safe as any other part of europe. Two countries (Slovenia an Croatia) are part of EU.
Besides the politics, all people are just the same. We all love good food and sceneries
The country is still beautiful and so are the people.
@@mariotintoreto9457 Where did I say that other countries are not safe or that security has something to do with EU? Have a nice day.
@@mariotintoreto9457 Nope. What he meant is that two of those countries are in the EU and does not seem he meant anything else in between. In order to get into the EU the country has to meet certain criteria and standards, unfortunately neither of other ExYu countries meet the criteria to enter the EU.
My parents were from Yugoslavia (Croat dad, Serbian mom), and I loved visiting our relatives there in the 70s and 80s. I notice that many people of their generation still identify more as Yugoslavian rather than with their republic. Sometimes I do too when asked about my ethnic background, but many people here in the US are unaware of the former Yugoslavia (esp. younger generations).
Same here. My grandfather's (mom's side) family was from Nasice. In the late 80s my dad was stationed in Germany & we tried in 89 to travel to see family in Yugoslavia. But could only go as far as Ljubljana as we began hearing it was getting tense and stores were clearing out. After the country broke up, my mom still called her family's homeland Yugoslavia and called herself Slavic so that's all I really knew. I didn't learn much at all about the war in school and relatives were too traumatized to discuss it at length, plus I was a teen when it ended so I really did not understand much back then. 1 of my aunts went to visit in 1992, but I didn't get to go back to visit until 2003. The train station and other buildings in the town still had bullet holes and damage from fighting. It was surreal. I am now in my 40s and last year hired a contractor to remodel a home I'd just bought. He was from Bosnia & fought in the war in his early 20s. We both agreed all of it was just horrible and should never have happened. 😞
No one I know, young or old, refer to themselves as jugoslav here in Australia, not a single person
Moj pradjedovi, prabake i bake, djedovi nisu ni Srbi ni Hrvati, Hrvatsku sam branio od okupacije velike srbije, krvna zrnca su mi nebitna.
U srbiji Hrvati danas nemaju nikakva prava osim šutjeti, dok srbi po Hrvatskoj 💩💩💩 kako žele i još im nitko ništa ne smije, odmah vrište😭😭😭 o "svojoj navodnoj ugroženosti".
Pametnom dosta srba, čast iznimkama koje poštuju 🇭🇷.
@powderskier5547 there quite few of 'us yugoslavs' as we are all from mixed marriages or we have mixed marriage. So we still exist.
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"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?" - Romans chapter 10 (Bible) (Call on the name of Jesus in faith. It can take years to learn to pray in faith for salvation because of fear of not being saved: FEAR FOR SALVATION OPPOSES FAITH FOR SALVATION). Praying for another person sincerely may help you to have more faith when you say the name of Jesus as praying for oneself often causes fear.
"God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble." - James chapter 4 (Bible) (If you humble yourself before God - NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH BEING INSECURE: HUMILITY IS MORE LIKE GIVING THANKS TO GOD, AND IT CAN BE DONE WITH BOLDNESS - he is more likely to give you grace, which is unmerited favor, which is the undeserved blessings of God: God can help people to have faith if they humble themselves before him: often praising Jesus takes humility: people with good emotional intelligence might be able to detect when they have more faith or less faith: but you must worship God in spirit and in truth i.e. with sincerity)
"He that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." - Hebrews chapter 11 (Bible) (believe that God will reward you - therefore God is good - this is why bitterness against God is dangerous when it comes to salvation)
Lee Strobel was an award winning investigative journalist who tried to discredit the historical Jesus and found that it took more faith to maintain his atheism than to become a Christian. Read Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ" or watch these summaries on CZcams: czcams.com/video/zDlgWC49iqA/video.html czcams.com/video/67uj2qvQi_k/video.html
Dr. William Lane Craig about the Resurrection (extremely interesting): czcams.com/video/Z8lkuuhVkOI/video.html
Here is another link: this one is about the shroud of Turin - it changed my life czcams.com/video/LLnCIp3OVmE/video.html
I work in a pub and have a regular at work who’s in his late 80s who talks of these times. I’m watching now to understand more but I’m still lost but I love him to bits. Our Bob..amazing man. 2 pale ales and a port everyday
CHEERS!
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR MAP..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
If Yugoslavia still existed they would be a power in basketball.
yeah its going to be Team USA vs Yugoslavia in the olympic finals in basketball
Now they dominate. Tennis
@@anastasiaanastasia1209 najbolji smo
They dominated soccer
Serbia alone is power in basketball :)
What did Montenegro's internet domain name say when it broke up?
It's not yu it's me.
Haha puns
You cheeky wanker... :D
Lmaooo
True
Gave me a good chuckle this one
An interesting video, and I am not quarreling with the presentation, and realize you are talking about a short period in a very long and complicated history. In my personal opinion, there are important factors in the former Yugoslavia and the larger Balkan region that cannot be overlooked. In prehistory and the period up through the Roman Empire, this region was in fairly constant turmoil, with a patchwork of ethnic groups and constant invasions, mainly from the east--with "barbarian" peoples such as the Goths, Huns, etc., moving across southern Europe.
The big divide in Yugoslavia goes back to when the Roman Empire was divided into East and West. The demarcation line between the two ran N-S right through Yugoslavia. And during the Middle Ages the divisions grew--West, Latin-speaking, Roman alphabet, Roman Catholic Church ... East, Greek-speaking, Greek/Cyrillic alphabet, Eastern Orthodox Church ... Divisions continued, with the Ottoman Empire conquering the East and the Venetians and then the Austrians and Hungarians taking control of the West. Hence the split between Croatia and Slovenia on one side and Serbia on the other. Bosnia-Herzegovina was first under Turkish control and then seized by Austria. North Macedonia was under Turkish control and in the eastern half. That meant there was not a shared history in the republics of Yugoslavia (or the kingdom that preceded them), or that the history was not seen in the same way by the different South Slavic peoples. The divisions built over long centuries, so it was naturally hard to counteract them in mere decades.
Elaine i am surprised you have no recollection of Albanians in your comment???
Thank you, I never heard that POV B4.
Elaine, It has been a continuing plan for centuries , all the empires were under the management of Satan so there has been one goal, a satanic One World Government. It took the UN and USA to finally destroy Yugoslavia for the free demonic market and Armageddon
For an outsider it is difficult to understand the enmity between Serbs and Croatians both of whom are Christians and whose languages are mutually understandable. More understandable is the division with the Bosnians who adopted Islam in order to obtain advantages when under Turkish Ottoman rule.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 Neither are Christian, Catholicism is a demonic pagan false religion that thru its empire controlled the ability to kidnap Christianity. The Vatican is Satan's holiday home , the realm of the antichrist . It's quite simple to understand how the Serbs and Croations grew to hate each other, it was engineered by the ruling elites , DIVIDE & CONQUER ! The same demonic power that controlled the world when the Serbs were forced into Orthodox and the Croats were engineered by the black pope's of Rome is the same demonic power that finally by the CIA,USA, NATO unleashed the destruction that ended Yugoslavia. The rest of the world is next.
My first ever overseas trip was to Yugoslavia in 1965 on a school trip. My first time on an aeroplane flew from London Gatwick to Ljubljana (now in Slovenia) on a Dan Air DC6B.
I went to Opatija and Rijeka both now in Croatia
Very happy memories.
History of Balkans in nutshell: Small pond with too many crocodiles.
Accurate enough
Way too many
@Shehzad Bogra that's true, for all sides, ordinary people suffer because of big shots megalomania
@Shehzad Bogra used as canon fodder? Isn't it in Balkans own interest to defend against invading infidels?
@Shehzad Bogra Be honest mate. sure sometimes the Habburgs were the bad guys but often the slalvs willingly allied with the Austrians to fight of the Turks.
Yugoslavia looked so cool on the map opposing Italy on the other side of the Adriatic
It was a Nice shape, ill give you that.....like a parrot looking towards italy
@@jasnacar9186 thanks I can’t unsee it now
But Croatia also look nice on map, right? Like small but strong dragon
@@user-yk4ey3xl9s More lije a Dragon.
@@jasnacar9186 That Albanians are Slavs. East Adriatic would be completely under control of Croatia.
Before my viewing of this video the only thing that I knew about Yugoslavia was a very small car name the "YUGO" sold in the United States during the early 1970's. Also, after I completed my Masters degree and was working to afford my second European trip to Amsterdam, Holland, I met one of the most beautiful and nicest women that I will always remember who told me that she was from Yugoslavia, and she was only 22 yrs old in 1986, and i went back to see her again the following year because she had me so mesmerized with her intelligence and beauty, and with the most smoothest skin texture that reminded me of a bright yellowish shiny leather. I forgot her name, and I can still see her beautiful face within eyes of my mind F O R E V E R.. 😍😍😍😍
I'm born in 1996. but i know a lot about Yugoslavia because my parents are from Macedonia. What an interesting time to be alive. Modern enough to visit other countries and meet new random people who speak a different language and have a good time together. But still not modern enough to have social media and ask for her facebook hehe.. You had to write down a name and address on a piece of paper so you can write letters afterwards. Occasionally you would use a phone call, but international phonecalls would be too expensive. My mom told me a story when she was on a school trip in another country, she had a small radio device shaped like a coca-cola bottle. Very cool and unique item for it's time. She borrowed it to a friend from another country and accidentally forgot it there. After my mom came home from the school trip, she spent weeks or probably over a month trying to get in contact with her friend, asking a friend who knows a friend who knows a friend, just to get the name and address to write a letter and get the radio back haha..
@@twentytwo138 I liked your story because everything you said was true regarding how people communicated during that time period.. We can now use Facebook messenger while talking to people all over the world for FREE, and see the many beautiful faces of the people we admire..🙂
This is very faulty and shallow explanation of collapse of Yugoslavia. Any effort to explain divisions between Ex-Yugoslav nations and final collapse without any mention of Greater Serbia as an Serbian idea concieved around mid 19th century will result in very shallow and unsatisfactory explanation of subject. Also, video is containing bunch of ideas which are wrong, first of all, before Yugoslavila broke, Croats and Slovenes naver supported alleged separatism of Albanians at Kosovo autonomuos region, nor such idea existed before late 1990-es. Instead only what existed at Kosovo region during Yugoslav federation were large birthrates among Albanians, which resulted local Serbians suddently became minority, because of which Serbians were anxious. When talking about Kosovo it is iportant to know Serbs consider the place as historical birth place of Serbian nation, this is another important reason they are anxious about fact they became minority there. Furthermore, it is completely wrong idea the collapse of Yugoslavia started because Kosovo, it started mostly because of Serbia led by Slobodan Milosevic, which tried to form Greater Serbia taking large parts of Croatian and Bosnian territory, commiting mass atrocities, ethnical cleansing of non Serbs, and all kind of war crimes. In video you never mentioned fact at beggining of 1990. Serbia led by Milosevic first spread fear among Croatian Serbs, and also Yugoslav army dominated by Serbs gave local serbs abundance of heavy weapons, and they started rebelion against Croatia (very same Russia did at Donbas and Luhansk region in Ukraine). Also video never mentioned, Serbian tanks and thousands of soldiers crossed over Croatian border to invade Croatia, you never mentioned Vukovar, Croatian town at very border of Croatia and Serbia, that was invaded by Serbia. In Vukovar Serbian forces commited huge attrocities ranging from mass rape, mass murder, mutilation of people to arson and destroying historical buildings. Again you would understand subject much much better if you get known better with efforts of creation of Greater Serbia, which led not only to colalpse of second Yugoslavia but also to WW1 and creation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and all Serbian issues with their neighbours since second half of 19th century till today.
@@IgnjatHorvath Thanks for that brilliant opinion about a country I know very little about, but I do admire the peoples integrity..
Yugoslavian women are truly the most beautiful in the world.
I would love to see a more detailed video about the bosnian war which was the most destructive war within the collapse of Yugoslavia. The ethnic devision is still a huge problem today. And it seems that its just a matter of time that Bosnia and Herzegowina might experience a redraw of borders whether being verbally or with war… I hope for peace for everybody.
All this cause stupid muslims believe western fascists.
czcams.com/video/xw49iL6zGyQ/video.htmlsi=IFGja-0RtYS9KeCT
My mom and dad are both Serbian and Bosnian. Mom lived in Sarajevo and the shit she saw during the civil war, once she started telling me more as I got older, all I hope and pray our people see better days and love each other like we once did.
**Tito Left The Server**
Yugoslavia: **Chuckles** *I'm in Danger*
Normie
Tito :enters the server
Ypgoslavia: chuckles im in danger
"proklet bio izdajica svoje domovine"
- yugoslav anthem
Devide & conquer !
@@michaelsalcau9633 who's the conqueror?
If Yugoslavia still existed they would be one of the best in Football, Basketball, swimming, water polo, tennis, and much much more.
Edit: Its sad that other countries persuaded Croatia and Slovenia to try and get independence, we could of definitely lived together, look at all the other countries with different religions in them. We are all the same people as well.
We still are, individually. Croatia - football, Serbia - tennis, Slovenia - skiing, Montenegro - water polo. A lot of us cheer each other against other countries.
@@Account-ls3bn u mean Serbia in waterpolo, because they are best in that sport also, as i know serbs are best in Tennis,waterpolo and they are good not best but good in basketball, montenegro as i know its not good in any sports
if england was with usa.canada .Australia new Zealand would be a super power.so let's forget them "MAYBE", BUT REALITY.WE lived in Yugoslavia with all Albanians there were 7 peoples. its own place
@@Account-ls3bn Montenegro waterpolo hahaha... Serbia waterpolo Tennis Basketball Montenegro is good in ping pong- by the way Montenegro is Serbia so everything where is Serbia strong can be counted For Montenegro too
Kosovo in judo won 2 olimpics medals in Tokyo🥋
The reason is the same, as it will be the breaking point to EU and USA. Too many hungry politicians,. Sadly people are like sheep- need a firm hand to take of them, with discipline and harsh punishment. Greetings from Bosnia- I was born in Yugoslavia 😊
Obviously it was strategic long term thinking to multiply maximum points in Eurovision we could get. What else would it be?
Sounds legit and I want to believe your version more than the reality :)
bankers wars with usa interference
@@theyredistortingyourrhythm130 sure thing dude. everyone was so terrified of mighty yugoslav economy producing vegeta and plasma biscuits evil bankers from the west said noooo we gotta do something or they'll buy our companies with all the money from linolada sales, let's have cia instil hundreds of years of ethnic hatred between those nations and hope they fall for nationalism
@@marsjfields Yugoslav army 4th in the world, 6th in the Europe by power!!!!!
@@milosobrenovic2649 That literally makes no sense. Also, "Yugoslav army power" was greatly exaggerated, plus, it wasn't a thread to anyone. UK, France, Germany, the US... they most certainly didn't lose sleep over mighty Yugoslav army invading them. Apart from, obviously, army of Yugoslav politicians begging for cheap loans to keep the economy afloat.
Bosnians: “I want to go to the beach”
Croatia: No
They do have a peek at it
Look closer 🤣
Bosnia have Neum :)
24km
Small, petty nations
Awesome video, love your videos!
yes....AND....
To the commenter who said the PRODUCER just had this guy reading from Wikipedia, I say WONDERFUL; at least he READS IN ELOQUENT ENGLISH!!IT APPEARS that the whole country was about the SAME SIZE as Italy, too ? I guess I slept through too many World History Classes , ha ?
SOME CAPABLE AND ELOQUENT PRODUCERS, FINALLY; WAITING FOR THEIR EXPLANATIONS RE; SERBIA AND CROATIA?
.We were looking for explanations of the Serbian Croation "political problems" and found this.
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR GREAT MAPS, ..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
" The Mississippi Valley Lady" and "Stormy Day Blues-Southern Blues."
FredGold&LyndaFaye
The Illinois Harmony Connection.
Quite a good video, another video The Breakup of Jugoslavia gives a more technical analysis of the causes of the break up of the country. Not just ill feelings or different ethnic gorups, economic and other reasons are at the base of the collapse.
It was mostly economic. But, also improper balance between the republics. My mom always told me that Serbia was the biggest beneficiary of the union. All the $$$ was going to Beograd and they all had fat pensions, better welfare, etc, while the rest were left behind. It would make sense as we see similar political and economic divodes divides in America today. Such as TX having to support COMMIEFORNISTAN indirectly.
I lived and worked in Yugoslavia in the 1970's and loved the place and people, BUT, as you rightly pointed out, the ethnic divisions ran deep and so, even back in '78, I knew it was only a matter of time before it fell apart. However, what a beautiful place it was with so much diversity from the alpine areas of the north to the Dalmatian coast and the mountains of Bosnia and the southern lakes.
The truth is , I love seeing communistic idealism and economic policies collapse.....it's not based on an organic process, so it's bound for disaster.
It was only
an oficial federation that ended , but we are still together !
Yugoslavia and balkan only collapse when some other force attack never between them self alone it is fact. Ottoman Empire, Austro Hungarian empire, German empire and USA and NATO are guilty for collapse of Yugoslavia.
Soooooooooo, are you saying the tower of Bable doesn't work??? and never will???
That’s not true about the ethnic divisions. Brotherhood and unity was well engraved in the vast majority of Yugoslavian peoples. Only a minor nationalists group, mostly in Croatia was against the unity, but they were big losers and nobody normal payed attention to them. Then during the first elections, with the help of the westerners, those nationalist retards with lies took the power in Croatia, something that nobody normal could imagine. It’s very possible that they faked the elections. After that the brainwashing propaganda started from their media and many honest Croats got brainwashed to hate Yugoslavia. But the hatred hit them back when Yugoslav Army destroyed their irregular military groups. Then the war started and again with the help of westerners they occupied territories that never wanted to stay in Croatia, but they wanted to remain in Yugoslavia. So, by attacking those Yugoslavian territories, the Croatian terrorists did a genocyde and remained unpunished for that. Only 2/3 of Today’s Croatia’s territory belongs to those who voted to live in separate Croatia. 1/3 of the people in Croatia is under occupation, they want to live in Yugoslavia, and they will be liberated soon by the new world forces from the East. The west obviously doesn’t care about a just division of the ex Yugoslavian territories. Sooner or later, a new Yugoslavia will be born, as many brainwashed Croats are waking up and rejecting the Croatian reality that the sick nationalists created with the help of westerners in 1990’s. The unity between Serbs and Croats is growing again and majority of them see the truth that they are the same people, speaking same language which was divided by westerners to split Yugoslavia and to be conquered easier. The lies are over, a new Yugoslavia will be born soon!
I remember doing a report about Yugoslavia and its diverse cultures for school way back in 1988. It's a good lesson on how in some circumstances multiculturalism can go horribly wrong.
@Balsha no we are not. 😉
@@Tom-eb9wf oh yes you are, you just dont know ^^
@@Tom-eb9wf I'm Indonesian myself, Javanese Muslims and Christians are still Javanese.
It went well without US democracy
That was a good school,although it depends where you are from - certainly it would be odd if you are from USA,cause mostly they dont care (and know) about anyone,many of them thinks that Mexican are Spanish and vice versa...:)
However,its good conclusion - that was rather forced multiculturalism, on loose grounds with many things being avoided and hidden "under the carpet"...until higher powers took over the "game" totally ,tearing everything apart.
Thank you, a video I can finally understand while studying
its a bullshit,,,download the movie...houston we have a problem... i hope you understand,,,thanks me later
Thanks for the video and easy explanation, I especially loved the maps! But I have some constructive criticism. Please give me some dates and context! 🙂 How and when was the Kingdom of Yugoslavia created and the different peoples first become a country? When did Tito die? Obviously I can google such things but it's better to have it directly in the video.
I realize you only have so much time, but there are MAJOR factors left out, that directly, and almost forcefully, led to the dissolution of the Former Yugoslavia. These elements did not lie within the borders, namely, the western powers.
When I first deployed to Macedonia in early 1994, we too were given a broad-brush explanation as to why we were there.
6 months later, we soldiers of the US 1st Armored Division, found ourselves in one of the most contested regions of Republika Srbska, the Posavina Corridor. On the ground, we learned from the perspective of the People “there”, in Bosnia, Croatia, and Serbia.
I feel you did a fine job of covering some of the internal problems, but maybe consider piggybacking a separate episode explaining how the rest of Europe, and especially the Untied States influenced the divide.
Me too almost got deployed to Macedonia from Germany in 94'. They wanted 3 volunteers, I volunteered but they sent 1, my team leader for 6 months. All of 95' was training to go into Bosnia. Finally 96', Clinton (who I hate) gave the go orders. The whole 18th MP Brigade in Germany got sent to Hungary by rail and then dismounted, road our vehicles to Tuzla Bosnia. 97' I separated from the Army and stayed in Germany, Deutsche Frau. In 08' I took a road trip traveling through Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzogen, Serbia-Montrego, Albania and to Junik Kosovo. The coastline from Split Croatia to Serbia-Montrego was just breath taking.
Why I hear so many of you who say you guys weren't given clear objectives of the mission? Same to afghan US soldiers
@@timothyhernandez945 Thanks for the info! It actually sounds like there is a well thought out plan. Genuine question, what do you think went wrong? As in why the government cannot be maintained? Was there corruption within them? And how did you view the sudden extraction of US soldiers?
@@timothyhernandez945 Nice profile pic btw!
@@tanzine91 the main objective was to stop the civil war and provide peace to all sides of the conflict. 2nd objective was to find the grave sites and war criminals.
Very oversimplified but I appreciate the effort and courage of covering this topic.
Za sve nas iz ex Juge, pozz
Da je išao u detalje trajalo bi 12 sati ne 12 minuta!! :)
Nije toliko stvar u nedostatku detalja, nego u cudnom kronoloskom preskakanju i zanemarivanju odredjenih kljucnih dogadjaja i uzroka raspada. Sve u svemu, dosta manjkav uradak. Ali trude se.
Poz
Poz brttt
Vi ne cijenite hrvatsku povijest i zato se raspala...
You should have mentioned how Slovenia broke off from the union early in the conflict of the 90s, with almost no blood shed.
The Serbs had zero interest in Slovenia! In Slovenia there was not an substantial Serb population. Plus in Slovenia no mineral resources.
@@junopuno7011 The Serbs had no Ba... To kepp with Slovenia, thats why they backed up, why did they concure Kosovo when there were more then 95 % albanians?!
Becouse thei could, and by slovenians they had no Balls.
@@junopuno7011 Yes, but first serious armed conflict occured in Slovenia when it declared independence on 26th June 1991. Next day federal army tanks were on the streets and armed conflicts ensued - but it was all over in 10 days, and 3 months later federal army withdrew-and then a really big war started in Croatia. So, initially, there was Serbian interest to keep Slovenia within, but that failed, so they concentrated on Croatia.
slovenians, being produced by anyone from former Jugoslavija, hate themselves.
Nas narod uopste nema probleme iz medju sebe, nego sa onima u vladi. Tjeraju nas da se svadjamo da nas drze u razdvoju, dok oni kasiraju. Kad ugasimo ekrane, pustimo malo pozitivne muzike i druzimo se zajedno vidimo da smo braca i sestre. A zamisli da radimo zajedno sta bi mogli napraviti, Balkan moze biti najjaca regija svijeta i najbolje mjesto za ziviti! Ljubav i veliki pozdrav braco i sestre 🇷🇸🇭🇷🇲🇪🇧🇦🇸🇮🇦🇱🇧🇬🇷🇴🇬🇷💙
This warmed my heart ❤
Tako je kralju veliki pozdrav iz Beograda!!
♥🇸🇮
Nije istina da nemaju ljudi problemi izmedju sebe, da nema zla u nama ne bi ni bilo moguce politicarima izmanipulirati nas I natjerati da jedni drugima djecu koljemo.
Nitko ko razmišlja kao ti ne pomaže da se do korijena problema dođe. U svakom od nas je problem, osim u djeci, dok ne odrastu malo, onda je i u njima.
@@grigorijefimovic1087 ima zla jednako kolko i u drugim narodima a izmanipulisu nas jer je siromastvo i bezposlica pa dokoni i depresivni leze kuci umesto da se bave necim..
Ne moze neko sam od sebe biti zao momce
It's a shame that the various ethnic groups couldn't get along well enough to stay together under the federation. United they were strong enough to demand fair trade rules and had a strong enough military to demand the greater powers of Europe heed their demands. Post break up the former Yugoslavian nations came out much weaker, more divided and politically forgotten in Eastern Europe. A real shame.
Coming to America...
At no point was Yugoslavia strong enough to demand anything, barring its time as the bridge between East and West.
@@stephenjenkins7971 The English love acting as if their crimes against other nations and states are, in fact, conspiracies of local evil dictators.
The world is constantly trying to live peacefully and is even subsidizing the English hegemony. It wasn't until English criminal vassals started doing genocide that the world started creating alliances in defense against the colonial opression.
@@NikolaAvramov Oh boy, genocide denialism and bootlicking is really in vogue in Serbia, huh?
This is exactly what balkanization is about. Chisel down powerful nations into pieces.
One of the most hardest periods in Niko Bellic's life
not until when he heard the word bowling and meet a psychopath
Best comment!!!!
When I was a kid in fifth grade my teacher said that Yugoslavia would fall apart when Tito would die. That was in 1965. He was right It was later but it indeed fell apart.
Great video. Thanks 🙏👍
I love your voice and speech! Your accent, diction, intonation, and phrasing are wonderful. Where did you learn to talk like this?
Artificial intelligence.
Tito: Dies'
Balkan: Why do I hear boss music?
Tito dies : Serbia lets declare war to Croatia and kill them all!
Nobody didn't mentioned that?
@@lolofblitz6468 go away albanian.
@@lolofblitz6468 kill them all? are you stupid? the serbs were the ones that were expelled from their homes in croatia
@@mihajlo33 the croatians litrelly wanted to sign an agreement that made Serbs equal but they refused and started a war that's why the got kicked out
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@@lolofblitz6468 maybe you should look up what the croats attempted to do during ww2
I watched this video with my Croatian girlfriend. She always goes out of her way to emphasize that Croatian, Bosnian, and Serbian are different languages and I always tease her that they aren't. She got so triggered when you said they were the same 😂
Croatian and Bosnian are fake languages created just to be separated from original Serbian language which is the oldest.
@@igor7195 how is serbian older than croatian? If it's not for Turks and Germans, we all wouldn't be able to speak properly.
@@melkan1999 That's bullshit, google for Miroslav Gospel from 12th century and cry, there was no such a thing called Turk back then...
@@igor7195 Yes I google it and it says that it was written in Church Slavonic. And I'm not telling that they didn't have language before Turks, I'm just saying that they borrowed so many words from them that if they would've get rid of all
turk loanwords they wouldn't be able to speak.
@@melkan1999 Yes they borrowed but they are older nation than Turks and Germans. Imagine Serbia didn't been under Ottoman rule for 400 years, they wouldn't have turk words in their language...
In Slovenia, the national govt was always seen as an overlord. Before Yugoslavia there was the Austrian monarchy as well.
Tensions were on the rise in the 80's as the national govt came into Slovenia and changed all the road and street signs to Serbian coptic script- twice. As the Slovenians removed and replaced them twice.
In Jun 91, when the war started, the govt conscripts were told that Italy invaded the country. But when the conscripts saw it was their own people/Slovenes wearing the same uniforms and not speaking Italian. They basically downed weapons.
PS: Slovenia had only 9% of the population of Yugoslavia, but 40% of the GDP.
Croatia had 20% of the pop amd 25% of the GDP.
This war was also about money not just ethnic differences.
Could the collapse of Yugoslavia have been avoided?
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No. Atheism can only lead towards corruption, immorality and at the end - autodestruction. Almost all Yugoslavians sold their souls to the devil. We all know the price.
It could and it should.
I am a Serb who lives in Munich, and my best friends are Croats and Bosniaks.
Bloody war 1991-1995 was unnecessary nonsense
@@Filippirgos W awnser brate
Tito kept the country together by sheer force of will, coupled with his strong desire to keep the USSR and the West at bay. His was a tough balancing act all around!
Yes, the division can be avoided. But apparently, the West had a program to divide to disintegrate countries that opposes them and their so-called democratic ideology.
I was in Bosnia in 1996 for 6 months, and spoke to a lot of locals, who unfortunately could not speak good English, but what I gathered all in all was very frustrating and confusing for them. The conflict was a great example on how things can get totally out of hand when regions of nations are unbalanced and egos are paramount. Politics, ethnic groups, economics, land rights, all together in a turmoil ran its course in a cruel very sadly finish. I hope peace and harmony for the region, as I found this part of the world fantastic in all aspects.
Mulims In Balkans should Make a separate Country. Only Islam Unites The Humanity.
Confusing that Serbs were trying to ethnically cleanse Bosniaks, running the only concertation camps after WW2? Srebrenica was the pinnacle of the Serb campaign of dominating ex-Yu but far from the only place where non-Serbs civilians were murdered on a large scale. And how about mass rapes performed by the Serb military?
WHY "who unfortunately could not speak good English" ? They are LUCKY TO NOT KNOW THE LANGUAGE OF ONE WHO MADE THIS WAR POSSIBLE!!!
@@user-hi7yc5sx2m They understood Karadzic when he promised the "disappearance of the Muslims in Bosnia" czcams.com/video/lRDAds6b90Y/video.html
@@user-hi7yc5sx2m Justice was done, many did speak great English. So be quiet and learn.
Divide and rule,that's why.
The winner is never the renter of the compound,but the real owner...
You are not to bright.
I would take "Divide and rule" any day before "Ethnic cleanse and rule".
This video is very faulty and shallow explanation of collapse of Yugoslavia. Any effort to explain divisions between Ex-Yugoslav nations and final collapse without any mention of Greater Serbia as an Serbian idea concieved around mid 19th century will result in very shallow and unsatisfactory explanation of subject. Also, video is containing bunch of ideas which are wrong, first of all, before Yugoslavila broke, Croats and Slovenes naver supported alleged separatism of Albanians at Kosovo autonomuos region, nor such idea existed before late 1990-es. Instead, only what existed at Kosovo region during Yugoslav federation were large birthrates among Albanian population, which resulted local Serbians suddently became minority, and became very anxious. When talking about Kosovo it is iportant to know Serbs consider the place as historical birth place of Serbian nation, this is another important reason they are anxious about fact they became minority. Furthermore, it is completely wrong idea the collapse of Yugoslavia started because Kosovo (and alleged Croatian and Slovene support of idea), it started exactly because of Serbian nationalism and expansionism led by Slobodan Milosevic, which tried to form Greater Serbia taking large parts of Croatian and Bosnian territory, commiting mass atrocities, ethnical cleansing of non Serbs, and all kind of war crimes. Video never mentioned fact, at beggining of 1990. Serbia led by Milosevic first spread huge fear among Croatian Serbs missusing history, also Yugoslav army dominated by Serbs gave local serbs abundance of heavy weapons, and local Croatian Serbs started rebelion against Croatia (very same Russia did at Donbas and Luhansk region in Ukraine). Also video never mentioned, Serbian tanks and thousands of soldiers crossed over Croatian border to invade Croatia, video never mentioned Vukovar, Croatian town at very border of Croatia and Serbia, that was invaded by Serbia after it was flattened with earth sa same as Mariuople in Ukraine. In Vukovar Serbian forces commited huge attrocities ranging from mass rape, mass murder, mutilation of people to arson and destroying historical buildings. Again you would understand subject much much better if you get known better with efforts of creation of Greater Serbia, which led not only to colalpse of second Yugoslavia but also to WW1 and creation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and all Serbian issues with their neighbours since second half of 19th century till today.
so so sad RIP Yugoslavia, you will be missed, born December 01, 1918; died sometime in an unknown date (wiki fails to remember) in 2003.
This is very faulty and shallow explanation of collapse of Yugoslavia. Any effort to explain divisions between Ex-Yugoslav nations and final collapse without any mention of Greater Serbia as an Serbian idea concieved around mid 19th century will result in very shallow and unsatisfactory explanation of subject. Also, video is containing bunch of ideas which are wrong, first of all, before Yugoslavila broke, Croats and Slovenes naver supported alleged separatism of Albanians at Kosovo autonomuos region, nor such idea existed before late 1990-es. Instead only what existed at Kosovo region during Yugoslav federation were large birthrates among Albanians, which resulted local Serbians suddently became minority, because of which Serbians were anxious. When talking about Kosovo it is iportant to know Serbs consider the place as historical birth place of Serbian nation, this is another important reason they are anxious about fact they became minority there. Furthermore, it is completely wrong idea the collapse of Yugoslavia started because Kosovo, it started mostly because of Serbia led by Slobodan Milosevic, which tried to form Greater Serbia taking large parts of Croatian and Bosnian territory, commiting mass atrocities, ethnical cleansing of non Serbs, and all kind of war crimes. In video you never mentioned fact at beggining of 1990. Serbia led by Milosevic first spread fear among Croatian Serbs, and also Yugoslav army dominated by Serbs gave local serbs abundance of heavy weapons, and they started rebelion against Croatia (very same Russia did at Donbas and Luhansk region in Ukraine). Also video never mentioned, Serbian tanks and thousands of soldiers crossed over Croatian border to invade Croatia, you never mentioned Vukovar, Croatian town at very border of Croatia and Serbia, that was invaded by Serbia. In Vukovar Serbian forces commited huge attrocities ranging from mass rape, mass murder, mutilation of people to arson and destroying historical buildings. Again you would understand subject much much better if you get known better with efforts of creation of Greater Serbia, which led not only to colalpse of second Yugoslavia but also to WW1 and creation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and all Serbian issues with their neighbours since second half of 19th century till today.
Koliko shvatam, vi za sve krivite Srbe?!? Ja se ne bih slozila….nasa kuca u Bosni je spaljena do temelja, a rat jos nije ni poceo. Kuca je bila na muslimanskoj teritoriji. Srbi su jednostavno smetali i Hrvatima u Hrvatskoj, kao i muslimanima u Bosni. To je istina koju ja vidim!
Prva jugoslavija je umrla odmah poalje poroda tj. 5 /12/1918
04.02.2003 was when the name Yugoslavia disappeared from the map of Europe.
Very informative
Very interesting.
Although I lived through all the news and wars of the time, I was too busy trying to " do life " , that I never had the opportunity to understand what that huge conflict was all about.
Finally I have some idea of what transpired.
Thank you ☺
No this was a very bad video. U should watch a documentary to actually understand
This is very faulty and shallow explanation of collapse of Yugoslavia. Any effort to explain divisions between Ex-Yugoslav nations and final collapse without any mention of Greater Serbia as an Serbian idea concieved around mid 19th century will result in very shallow and unsatisfactory explanation of subject. Also, video is containing bunch of ideas which are wrong, first of all, before Yugoslavila broke, Croats and Slovenes naver supported alleged separatism of Albanians at Kosovo autonomuos region, nor such idea existed before late 1990-es. Instead only what existed at Kosovo region during Yugoslav federation were large birthrates among Albanians, which resulted local Serbians suddently became minority, because of which Serbians were anxious. When talking about Kosovo it is iportant to know Serbs consider the place as historical birth place of Serbian nation, this is another important reason they are anxious about fact they became minority there. Furthermore, it is completely wrong idea the collapse of Yugoslavia started because Kosovo, it started mostly because of Serbia led by Slobodan Milosevic, which tried to form Greater Serbia taking large parts of Croatian and Bosnian territory, commiting mass atrocities, ethnical cleansing of non Serbs, and all kind of war crimes. In video you never mentioned fact at beggining of 1990. Serbia led by Milosevic first spread fear among Croatian Serbs, and also Yugoslav army dominated by Serbs gave local serbs abundance of heavy weapons, and they started rebelion against Croatia (very same Russia did at Donbas and Luhansk region in Ukraine). Also video never mentioned, Serbian tanks and thousands of soldiers crossed over Croatian border to invade Croatia, you never mentioned Vukovar, Croatian town at very border of Croatia and Serbia, that was invaded by Serbia. In Vukovar Serbian forces commited huge attrocities ranging from mass rape, mass murder, mutilation of people to arson and destroying historical buildings. Again you would understand subject much much better if you get known better with efforts of creation of Greater Serbia, which led not only to colalpse of second Yugoslavia but also to WW1 and creation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and all Serbian issues with their neighbours since second half of 19th century till today.
@@IgnjatHorvath So you created your account when this video was released, just to spam 40 one-sided propaganda coments on the same video, about a very complex situation, which the creator condensed in this 12 minute video as best as he could? Pathetic
@@firebird997All parties involved were taking part in ethnic cleansing.
The biggest problem of Yugoslavia is that all the factions of WW2 which were in war with each other inside the territory of Yugoslavia during WW2 were basically forced to live together after WW2 ended, and were mixed together, especially in Bosnia ( Chetniks, Ustase and Partisani also extreme groups of Croats, Bosniaks and Serbs were forced to live together, lots of households were mixed, mixed marriages everywhere, mixed neighbourhoods etc). Former enemies became neighours, and so stories and experiences from father/grandfather were told to son/grandson what happened in ww2, how bad they had it or which family member was killed by which Ethnic group who was killed by Croats, by Serbs or by Bosniaks.. So after Yugoslavia broke up and the wars started a lot of people were very happy to take guns and "repay" or do "revenge killings" on their Ethnicaly different neighbours for things that happened to their Grandfather/Grandmother or close family in ww2...
Ok, what you mentioned about Ustase, Chetniks and Partisans is certainly true.
But I do not approve of your conclusion that 1990 was all about revenge. For example who or what did the Serbs go to avenge in Slovenia? As far as I know from history, those two nations were not in contact with each other at all, and the Serbs attacked Slovenia first.
As for Croatia and Bosnia, Serbs killed a huge number of people in those republics during and after World War II - so they wanted to take additional revenge in 1990?
I think that during 800 years of slavery under the Turks, the Serbs acquired a collective complex and a kind of schizophrenia - that's the reason.
@@marcshalamov6686 Its Yugoslavian Army in 1990 who attacked Slovenia, it was not Serbia alone it was Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian Soldiers who were still in belief that they were part of Yufoslavia (it was still Yugoslavia but just without slovenia) but that was just a handfull of Yugoslavian soliders who participated in Slovenia and that war ended very fast. After WW2 Serbs saw themselvs as the biggest victims during WW2 and so they spread their belief that they had it the worst and were the only victims on their descendants, and yes they have aswell a problem with schizophrenia They were not slaves of Turks, they had it good under Ottoman rule actually, but they still talk about how "BAD" they had it under ottoman rule and still talk about it like Ottomans ruled just 10-20 years ago..
@@emgex I don't agree entirely.
When Slovenia was attacked, even the biggest optimist could see that Yugoslavia had no future as such. More than 70% of the officer cadre were Serbs, because Croats traditionally did not like and were not en masse in that Yugoslav army.
As for the Serbs and their victims, all this is questionable. Their propaganda still claims today that Croats killed two million Serbs in Jasenovac. They never write about their camps in Serbia during World War II. They don't even mention the massacre of Muslims in Sandžak in World War II. And Blajburg was not to be mentioned at all in Yugoslavia.
But everybody lied as much as wanted about Jasenovac. Here, not far from Split - type in Google "Selo Gata, četnički zločin" and read on.
If you know Croatian or Serbian, I will give you a link to a site where you can download over 500 books so that you can see what Yugoslav and Serbian propaganda was?!
@@marcshalamov6686 Bruh im from Bosnia.
I agree there were not that much Croats in Yugoslav army at that point but there still were some just liike Bosniaks (Muslims). I think they were still lots of people at that time who believed in Yugoslavia and the "Brotherhood", they had hope that Yugoslavia lives on and thats why some stayed in Yugoslav army...
I speak from a Bosniak perspective.
We didnt had much choice back then, Bosniak/Muslim population was very very naive, we had no true national identity back then, no real army till late in the war, and didnt know any better than to accept it how it is.. and as a result of that it was easy to play with us.. thats why in the Yugoslav wars the Bosniak/Muslim population died the most. I know Serbian propaganda very well...
@@emgex ok, onda možemo i na našem nastaviti govoriti.
Ja sam ti radio u JNA do napada na Sloveniju i otišao sam dočim napali. No već i prije napada sam donio odluku da tu nemam što čekati. A da znaš koja je to bila podmuklost i rasulo u JNA tada - ne da se opisati. Na primjer povlačili su već ranije teško naoružanje iz Hrvatske prema Bosni i smještali ga u dijelove Bosne s večinskim srpskim stanovništvom u okolini. Službeno su davali objašnjenja da to oružje ide na remont.
A što se tiče napretka, normalno, gura te ukupni napredak okolnih zemalja. Više je Njemačka izgradila kuća na Balkanu nego Jugoslavija. To je moje mišljenje.
Misim, nemoj me krivo razumjeti - ideja Juge je OK. Ali pitanje je koliko je realno ostvariva.
I ne zaboravi svo zlo na Balkanu između Srba i Hrvata započeo je ono govno Karađorđević.
Imam knjigu doma koju je pisao fratar hrvatski okolo 1740 godine i jasno se vidi da je pisao sa simpatijom o Srbima - znači sva ta neprijateljstva su započela nakon 1918 godine kada su napravili tu kraljevinu SHS.
A djed rođeni mi je pričao o Franzu Jožefu - za njega je on bio najbolji vladar.., tj. Austro-Ugarska.., gradili su puteve, zgrade, svjetionike - ta monarhija je bila voljena od strane običnih ljudi u Hrvatskoj.
Back in the early 80s in grade school a family moved to my hometown from Yugoslavia. It wasnt until the breakup of the country that I learned that they were Serbian. Growing up we never knew all the states of the Communist countries because it was a Union and no mention of individual former countries. I still have some Yugo currency that they gave me back in like 83.
Ha, you hold a "piece" of history, yes ?
We rarely "Subscribe" to video producers who can' afford DECENT ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH...
@Luka Lacković Why don't you HELP GUIDE your fellow man, instead of badger "him?"
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR MAP..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
From Algeria 🇩🇿🇩🇿 i love all balkans people ❤
All I know is they had some bloody good sporting teams when it was all Yugoslavia. Who remembers 1974 world cup? Djaije,,Marich,,Acimovic etc and didn't a Yugo team beat the yanks in basketball at the Olympics? Unity and brotherhood was definitely the go.
I dont follow sports much but i think we did it again recently
1974 was the year Yugoslavia started to fall apart
NEVER WAS A UNITY ! ONLY IN THE FACE , BECAUSE OF THE SERB FORCE ! = " THE BOSSES "
Ya and since the breakup of Yugoslavia Croatia has made it to world cup final, bronze medal in 98 and the Croatian basketball team almost beat the yanks in 96, and the other states haven't had the same success in major team sports (except Serbia in Waterpolo). So ya..."unity."
There is a lot of misinformation about Yugoslavia in this video. Same as what you wrote.
For someone who is not from Yugoslavia:
We should first start from the Balkan Wars and the period before the war, WW1, and then from WW2. We lived between three big powers: the Ottoman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Russia, later Germany, Russia and America. And what do the great powers do? They play outside their borders. It does not suit the great powers to have another competition that has perhaps the best position in the world (the crossroads between everything). Their task was simple, to repeat a well-known recipe, impoverish the state and bring riots, change a bit their history in books. It is important to say that not everyone was well during communism, whose leader was Tito, for the reason that it did not turn out that Tito maintained peace (there was a lot of fear among the people). The task is done. They have our best scientists, engineers, craftsmen and workers. And we are not the only ones, it has been done to all countries in this world. We are all still colonies of a couple of world powers like Britain, America, Germany, Russia, China.
always blaming the external power of his savage behaviour, eeu was not a superpower when your country be fulled of radical group tring to resolve everything killing politic and royalty. it is so easy divided them and conquest them is majory your failalways blaming the external power of his savage behaviour, eeu was not a superpower when your country be fulled of radical group tring to resolve everything killing politic and royalty. it is so easy divided them and conquest them is majory your fail
ya right
Yes, it was all the big boo hoo from outside. Nothing to do with us being crazy morons who killed each other whenever we could. Jugoslavia was largely independent between 1945 and 1990, not even Stalin could interfere. Internal politics, economic collapse, Serbian nationalism and kaboom you have a war. Or just blame someone else. It was Americans that replaced Milosevic and started the war. Also, the Russians took Alija and replaced him. And finally the Germans took Franjo. Who knows.........
It’s unfortunate but crisis gives room to radical leaders who blame an internal entity instead of a foreign enemy. They use it to rise to power. Nationalism was just an excuse to divide the larger Yugoslav power.
They would never ever accept a communist nation thriving specially with so much social freedom as Yugoslavia had.
Overly brief and missing many points here that led to the breakup… what sources are you using?
It was an interesting listen👍
It's may 4th anniversary of Titos death. Thanks to marshall Josip Broz Tito, my parents had it good in Yugoslavia (SR Bosnia). They had a rather sweet life, life of security, dignity, rights as a citizen as well as workers. They both had high paying jobs, life was amazing. Dad served JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) on Brijuni Island as a sailor, he couldn't ask for a better place to do that. Met Tito in person and was pretty much mesmerised by that very, very special man, the old man had something in himself he would say. Builded a house from scratch with ease, both had cars, vacations wherever you wanted to go etc, etc... All of this without being a member of KPJ, the communist party. I am born during the Bosnian war of independence in 92', and it was rough. The war didn't make me hate other religions nor did my dad fill M head up with primal religious nationalism. I have many friednds that are catholic and orthodox christians, we get along like normal human beings. Yesterday, my last childhood friend moved out from Bosnia, now since I don't live there for the past 5 years, due to well, pretty much everything and anything that is going on there, I strongly supported him in that decision. Now you can love or hate Tito, but a fact is a fact, he created jobs, he pushed strongly for progressive way of life, education, rights for people and workers. Today we are ruled with sociopaths and wannabe war veterans who immediately throw fear of war into people as soon as their political situation is in danger.
Because of that sick nationalism I was never more far away from my home, my friends and family, and I'm not the only one...
That's why
Death to fascism, freedom to the people!
Smrt fašizmu, sloboda narodu!
Nice history.
Dez Nuces, you are 100% correct. I miss Yugoslavia!!!
Boy come to serbia and reeducate ur self....
Pozdrav Druže! Everything you said is 100% correct. My family is from the center of Serbia and everyone I've talked to says how good they lived under Drug Tito. We're the same people speaking branches of the same language. We shouldn't hate each other.
@@CagedBoy jeste jer je digo kredite koje dan danas ne nožemo da vratimo :))))) zamisli da ne moraš da radis već samo dizes kredite i ostaviš ih svom sinu i boli te uvo. U pravu si kako da se ne živi lepo na kredit.
As a hungarian, and already living in those years (albeit as a childí6teenager) - I have always shaked my head -> history repeats itself, the ethnic groups there, especially the Serbs, made all the very same mistakes that the hungarians did in 1867-1918 - not addressing ethnic questions properly. Yugoslavia (or the predecessor kingdom) was already established in a shaky ground - the senseless, greedy land-grabbing after WW1 set the stage for failure already ... true, Tito was a formidable balancing/unifying force BUT he failed to establish a successor/system which would ensure the continuation of the union. I remember as a child I was horrified about the media reports from the region - since having serbian ancestry on the maternal family line, it was especially sad to see how neighbours jumped onto each other, destroying everything they build in decades. I also partially recall the 80's - in the Eastern Bloc people were envy of the general economic/welfare success of Yugoslavia ... I really hope the Balkans will finally get its long deserved peace -> the only way I see at the moment, is joining the EU for the remaining non-members ... Greetings from Hungary!
religious war has not reached its apex or threshold level. In fact Taliban has refreshed the singular view that one day, all men, not counting women, will welcome allah. Although improbable, but very messy since you are against a fanatical view of a religious possibility founded on hope and nurtured emotional bond. so the answer is, no there would be no peace if religious bigotry remains.
The region can perhaps learn from these ethnic intolerances and evolve a positive collective.
In the 80's, here in Romania under Ceaușescu, we were dreaming about crossing the Danube into Yugoslavia. They were like the West for us. It is incredible how things can change so quickly.
@@lumealuineagu8190 - so true, although Hungary under Kádár was in a somewhat better position than Romania under Ceausescu - as it seems we had very similar dreams ... :-D
@@csabakis4214 Indeed. For us, it was also the idea of Serbia being the best friend of România. I think that we also had a very good impression of Hungary. At that time there was only an unclear impression that we might have a conflict with Hungary. Still, especially after Revolution, Hungary became the 'real west' for us. My first exit from România was in Budapest and it was a shock, you were at light years ahead of us from all points of view.
I remember my family’s first (and last) visit to Dalmatia in 1989. Apart from nature, the country was in a horrible state, already falling apart. Queues at 7AM in front of a supermarket to buy bread, because an hour later there wouldn’t be any. In a tourist hotspot! Hot water shortages, power cuts in the pique of tourist season?! A non-existent public transportation (no railway system, and a sparse bus service) between towns. If you didn’t own a car, you were pretty much depending on the kindness of strangers. Watching people standing on the curb, waiting probably for a relief, or a bus.
From my (Swiss/German) perspective of a seven-year-old, Yugoslavia was hell on Earth. The only thing one could buy on the beach was a small batch of French fries in a paper cone. I remember an old woman selling plums in a cardboard container under a pine tree. A sad, very depressing atmosphere everywhere. Nothing worked properly and the people went along with it. No wonder, it all fell apart. But then again, that’s communism in a nutshell.
I went to Croatia one more time, ten years ago, and I can say: gaining independence was the best thing for their tourism. Entire blocks of upscale villas, restaurants, and venues in every major city arose. There’s a solid transportation system (every hour there’s bus from the capital’s airport to the coast). The islands are well connected to the mainland via ferries and small planes. All in all - a change for the better.
Some people will say „it’s so expensive“. So what? It’s supposed to be free? Having visited over sixty countries so far, I’ve learned that a good service is worth the money. People have no idea how much work is put into the perfect vacation experience. Of course, there are those who whine and mourn communism. People of lesser talents and no skills. People who‘d rather let others think for them and decide for them. People who have the time to stand at 7AM in a queue to buy a loaf of bread, from their meagre state pension, because they’ve got nothing else to do in their lives. I can only pity them.
From a brother from Sarajevo. Love all my Balkan brothers. Serbia, Croatia Slovenia, Montenegro, Bosnia, and even Albania Romania and anyone who else I forgot… let’s just give a better world to our kids and fuck the politics. Love you all my brothers.❤
So much souls left the world because Collapse of Yugoslavia, same as my heart died when Czechoslovakia ended. At least we did it peacefully, sad the Yugoslavia did not use the peace way... but here it was harder :)
We rarely "Subscribe" to video producers who can' afford DECENT ELOQUENCE IN ENGLISH...
@Luka Lacković Why don't you HELP GUIDE your fellow man, instead of badger "him?"
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR MAP..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anythng, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and God Gave them One More Day.
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
In 1997 I shared a dormitory with a Yuguslavian girl while studying in England. Very nice, educated, helpful . I hope she's all right no matter where in old Yuguslavia she is
What’s her name?
Yugoslavia was in reality a mini empire where Serbia was the metropoly... The fate of all empires is known...
tito was a croat-slovene, he never trusted the serbs
I travelled in Jugoslavia from 1965-1972, then again from 1984-1989. It was a beautiful country, in a way untouched by the West. So few Westerners travelled in Jugoslavia in those early days. I used to ask my father why is it there were so few English speaking tourists visiting (it was mostly Germans). We all assumed it was because Jugoslavia was communist and so Westerners mostly avoided it. It was their misfortune.
Jugoslavia’s history is so complicated. The Balkans have always been a thruway into Europe and it worked both ways (Turks coming from the south, Austro-Hungarians from the north). So ethnically, people moved about (Serbs in Krajina brought in by the Hapsburgs to defend against invasions by the Turks), Albanians in Kosovo… fleeing Albania’s repressive regime and growing in population. Serbs and Croats in Bosnia-Herzegovina… Muslims in Bosnia (former Slavs converted to Islam and Turkish leftovers).
The place became a mishmash of of fiercely nationalistic/religious groups with cultural differences. It became a powder keg waiting to blow up.
Tito and the Communists acted like a deep freeze that prevented it from overheating.
Some Jugoslavs are nostalgic for the days of Communism and the socialist perks they enjoyed (which were unsustainable). Many Jugoslavs fled communism rather than live under that control (my father being one).
Canada, Australia and to a lesser extent the United States were homes to so many of this diaspora.
Quite frankly Slavs tend to argue and fight amongst each other (currently Russia and Ukraine). It’s best these states stay separate.
What I would like to see is a sort of Benelux arrangement or some type of common market for Slavic states. This would keep them culturally separate, but they could cooperate economically. I think this is what will eventually happen, but not until death and war exhaust them. It’s a shame… but Slavs are a different type of European… fiercely proud, stubborn and unfortunately hot headed.
Slavs are very smart, but their emotions get the better of them… and sadly holds them back from being great.
That is the modus operandi of anglos. They burn down nations and take the best amd brightest as thankful refugees. Vampire nations.
It's called the E.U. Some Slavic countries are already in it.
It seems other Slavic countries (mostly Orthodox) are not so keen.
I remember my family’s first (and last) visit to Dalmatia in 1989. Apart from nature, the country was in a horrible state, already falling apart. Queues at 7AM in front of a supermarket to buy bread, because an hour later there wouldn’t be any. In a tourist hotspot! Hot water shortages, power cuts in the pique of tourist season?! A non-existent public transportation (no railway system, and a sparse bus service) between towns. If you didn’t own a car, you were pretty much depending on the kindness of strangers. Watching people standing on the curb, waiting probably for a relief, or a bus.
From my (Swiss/German) perspective of a seven-year-old, Yugoslavia was hell on Earth. The only thing one could buy on the beach was a small batch of French fries in a paper cone. I remember an old woman selling plums in a cardboard container under a pine tree. A sad, very depressing atmosphere everywhere. Nothing worked properly and the people went along with it. No wonder, it all fell apart. But then again, that’s communism in a nutshell.
I went to Croatia one more time, ten years ago, and I can say: gaining independence was the best thing for their tourism. Entire blocks of upscale villas, restaurants, and venues in every major city arose. There’s a solid transportation system (every hour there’s bus from the capital’s airport to the coast). The islands are well connected to the mainland via ferries and small planes. All in all - a change for the better.
Some people will say „it’s so expensive“. So what? It’s supposed to be free? Having visited over sixty countries so far, I’ve learned that a good service is worth the money. People have no idea how much work is put into the perfect vacation experience. Of course, there are those who whine and mourn communism. People of lesser talents and no skills. People who‘d rather let others think for them and decide for them. People who have the time to stand at 7AM in a queue to buy a loaf of bread, from their meagre state pension, because they’ve got nothing else to do in their lives. I can only pity them.
We totally underestimate efforts early Indian leaders made to keep the union united. Every state in India speaks a different language and is a different ethnicity to a certain degree. We all coexist now as a huge nation and proud. Other countries couldn't stay like that. India is truly a marvel in this regard.
British did a good job.
@@darwinism14 yep. they left when we made them feel unwelcome
Calm down and get over yourself not everything is about India. Also, learn history, the Indian subcontinent was divided on religious lines over 3m people died, 4 deadly wars have happened since..
It would have been better if the union was decentralised like the EU and the states were left to govern themselves but still maintain the union.
@@yourneighbour304 States have immense power now too. More power than how much US gives its states. And EU being insufficient in its defense, formed NATO. India would have had the need for the same in which case, staying as a Union would have been considered the better choice as it was.
"Our republics together are someone, separated, we are no one" - Josip Broz Tito. I am not a fan of communism and dictature, but he was right.
A zasto je onda jos na pocetku II sv. rata iscrtao etnicke granice i to na stetu srpskog naroda? Ako je bilo razloga da Srbiju i dalje podeli sa dve pokrajine, zasto po istom principu Hrvatska nije dobila npr. Liku-Krajinu, Istru, Slavoniju? Ili zasto onda uopste unutrasnje granice ako je istinski zagovarao bratstvo?
@@bobperunov Razlog za sve što je Tito radio, je bilo da uveća svoju apsolutnu vlast i bogatstvo. Bojao se od srpske većine koja bi mogla da ga zbaci sa vlasti i zato je efektivno bio anti srpski nastrojen. Pomogao Albancima da uđu na Kosovo, dao im veću autonomiju. Kreirao lažnu državu Bosnu oko muslimanske manjine i tako dalje.
@@bobperunov Slovenija je čista. Srbija i CG su uvek bile zajedno u svemu, maltene kao da su jedna republika. Makedonija je uvek bila problematična pa me to ne čudi. Muslimani i BiH su tek na kraju bili priznati, dok smo u Hrvatskoj bili konstitutivni narod. Hrvatska je bila pola naša pola Hrvatska, a SR Hrvatska je bila mnogo manja nego NDH i Kraljeva Banovina Hrvatska.
Tako da, nije bilo tako loše po nas.
@@vojvoda-draza jel i kulin ban napravio bosansko lazno kraljevstvo? i ne kaze se kreiro nego krojio kako i potice iz bosanskog
aj vozdra dragoljube...
He was wrong 😭
Excellent video
This video is very faulty and shallow explanation of collapse of Yugoslavia. Any effort to explain divisions between Ex-Yugoslav nations and final collapse without any mention of Greater Serbia as an Serbian idea concieved around mid 19th century will result in very shallow and unsatisfactory explanation of subject. Also, video is containing bunch of ideas which are wrong, first of all, before Yugoslavila broke, Croats and Slovenes naver supported alleged separatism of Albanians at Kosovo autonomuos region, nor such idea existed before late 1990-es. Instead, only what existed at Kosovo region during Yugoslav federation were large birthrates among Albanian population, which resulted local Serbians suddently became minority, and became very anxious. When talking about Kosovo it is iportant to know Serbs consider the place as historical birth place of Serbian nation, this is another important reason they are anxious about fact they became minority. Furthermore, it is completely wrong idea the collapse of Yugoslavia started because Kosovo (and alleged Croatian and Slovene support of idea), it started exactly because of Serbian nationalism and expansionism led by Slobodan Milosevic, which tried to form Greater Serbia taking large parts of Croatian and Bosnian territory, commiting mass atrocities, ethnical cleansing of non Serbs, and all kind of war crimes. Video never mentioned fact, at beggining of 1990. Serbia led by Milosevic first spread huge fear among Croatian Serbs missusing history, also Yugoslav army dominated by Serbs gave local serbs abundance of heavy weapons, and local Croatian Serbs started rebelion against Croatia (very same Russia did at Donbas and Luhansk region in Ukraine). Also video never mentioned, Serbian tanks and thousands of soldiers crossed over Croatian border to invade Croatia, video never mentioned Vukovar, Croatian town at very border of Croatia and Serbia, that was invaded by Serbia after it was flattened with earth sa same as Mariuople in Ukraine. In Vukovar Serbian forces commited huge attrocities ranging from mass rape, mass murder, mutilation of people to arson and destroying historical buildings. Again you would understand subject much much better if you get known better with efforts of creation of Greater Serbia, which led not only to colalpse of second Yugoslavia but also to WW1 and creation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and all Serbian issues with their neighbours since second half of 19th century till today.
All explained is the truth and nothing but the truth.Thank you Ignjat Horvat for your comment 👍🇭🇷
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Whoever pronounces "Croats" as "Crotes" can't know much about Yugoslavia. So much for "Knowledgia"
@Dead channel It's not about the pronounciation. It's about the lack of basic understanding of Yugoslavia that it points to
My biggest issue is KHIN
Dude it's KNin not kHin
@Dead channel it's about looking up pronunciations, if you look up the history of a certain place, it is nice to look up how to properly pronounce the names. I barely recognized the names with how badly they were pronounced. saying Croats as ''crotes'' sounds like you're calling them frogs. it's about showing some respect to the places you're trying to present the history of. (coming from a slovenian).
@Dead channelIt is a big deal when someone who doesn't understand the complexity of history is simplifying it and talking about it...The whole narrative is the problem...
@@maximamasmac5007I would just be happy that someone cared enough about the place I’m from to make a video about it, but you do you.
i love how he forgot the nato intervention that also contributed to its de facto collapse
The Serbs weren't strong enough to hold it together without extreme ethnic cleansing and rape camps. Russia was also super weak in the 90s so it couldn't help the Serbs like it normally would have.
Serbs love acting like there was this conspiracy to break Yugoslavia, when in reality there was great external pressure for it to hold together. The West consistently tried to quell the violence and even banned selling weapons to breakaway states. It wasn't until claims of genocide occurred long after other states broke away that external intervention became a thing.
@@stephenjenkins7971 The English love acting as if their crimes against other nations and states are, in fact, conspiracies of local evil dictators.
The world is constantly trying to live peacefully and is even subsidizing the English hegemony. It wasn't until English criminal vassals started doing genocide that the world started creating alliances in defense against the colonial opression.
@@stephenbrand5661 Maybe rape camps are a thing where you're coming from, but us non-Westerners don't entertain the notion that extreme ethnic cleansing and rape are what keeps stability in a country.
German and US meddling
This just shows you can't make a country out of groups of people ,tribes ,which have been fighting with each other for centuries
Everything he said is consistent with my understanding of the events. Well done. I will forgive his pronunciation of a few names, after all, my Australian wife couldn't pronounce mine.
You have forgotten one very important fact. Before the disintegration, Yugoslavia was 4 military powers and 39 countries in terms of economy in the world. The great powers in the world did not want to compete with such a Yugoslavia in which everything was arranged and was neutral country - Not West - Not East !
It's a lie
@@kima00 Не знам када си рођен. Упознај се са свим чињеницама у вези Југославоје, па онда нешто коментариши.
Kakva četvrta vojna sila
@@kima00 Још се ниси информисао ни прочитао ? Попиј млеко пре спавања !
@@sizorunyon-13 daj mi neke informacije oko te vojne sile, neki link gde ima da se pročita o tome
I love that you touched upon the topic of Yugoslavia its almost strange there isn't enough people talking about it.
There’s just so much conflict in our history it’s hard to have a firm grasp on everything.
I hope it was meant to be ironic?
That is because people from that region get very heated, and rightly so. This video does not cover what happened on the ground. Villages were attacked by military, Men shot, women graped and then the entire village burnt to the ground without any survivors, (well all they could find). Every single person killed. All sides did this, it was, genicide, racial clensing, what ever you want to call it. Many can still remember the horrors and hatred is still ingrained in many people.
Many lost children were brought up by foster families after WW2 and the 90s war.
People will never forget these horrific times.
War could spark again, we have Muslims and Christian Orthodox leaving in very close proximity in Bosnia Herzegovina with the border of Republicka of sprka, and currently there is tension.
Very well done.
Yugoslavia = while two people works, six people eats. This must end once.
What two people? 😂
The ones that through Tito, reposition the factories, or just exploit the other four for resources and money? Please.
I have often asked the question of modern perceptions of nationhood.
200 years ago, many places we call countries now, that fall under singular rule and, name never existed.
I would argue the Yugoslavia was just such a place. Definitely a border area where conflicts between powers were common and changes in control just as frequent.
As with places like Armenia. This created a multi ethnic, racial, religious melting pot.
Any true sense of a nation across the region would be unlikely to ever have existed.
Today, especially in Africa and the Middle East we have dozens of countries which have this problem. Lines on maps do not effectively describe nor serve the multiplicity of peoples contained with those lines.
Yugoslavia was between Greek and Rome, between Austria Hungary empire and Turkey.
For thousands of years it get multiple cultures, languages and religions , even spit from the same ethnic then started to kill each other.
Nation isnt even real.
@@mozambique9113 what does exist then?
@@Ryanflees yup. Exactly. I don't think difference is bad. I think people must have freedom to choose and modern borders do not reflect those differences or those choices.
The bigger a collective the harder it becomes to hold a union together.
Collectivism will destroy individuality.
In the past, powerful empires have arisen and taken large swathes of land. When they managed to properly integrate the peoples, their identity either disappeared or a new one was born. See the latinification of the regions of France and Spain under Roman rule. Their incursion eventually created these new nations when the cultures of Rome and the old tribes mixed (and when Rome eventually fell).
The story on the Balkans is very long and depending on the regions even different. It's also a lot longer and complicated than I can describe here in a few sentences, but essentially even drawing borders was difficult when these countries were created.
So the Ottomans/Byzantines and Austrians/Hungarians were not very successful with integrating these areas into their own culture/language. They owned the land, but ethnically, only the few ruling and rich were either Ottomans (or Austrians or Hungarians, depending on the country). This Austria/Hungary vs Ottoman/Byzantine divide is also one of the reasons why there are such cultural differences in the south Slavic people - they were influenced by the empires that ruled them. So what the ruling empires had was in actuality a South Slavic majority, on which in some cases, they just tried to impose their own language or religion on. But again, the ruling class was a minority and they could never replace the culture and the language of the peoples completely, even in the hundreds of years. So when these empires fell, you had nationalities, which (in some cases even in 1500 years) maybe never even had their own country up until that point, so creating borders was incredibly difficult.
last time I was this early, Yugoslavia was still a country
Normie
Hi there where did you pick UP all those infos? Media ot history?!
Well, no one would call a spade a spade. Here it is. The biggest reason was that the ppl of different religious groups were not ready to live together ( you know which cult I am talking about) and then came the ethnicity in picture too.
Same religion is still the single cause of problems across the world even today and will always remain so.
Awesome as always
Not really, it is quite a simplified, with some important missing events, it would be necessary to stretch that presentation for 3-4 min to include all major events, but it is still a decent presentation,
In memory of all Bulgarians who died in Yugoslavia and particularly in Vardar Macedonia because of Serbian Chauvinism, which brought only suffering and pain to all Balkan nations!
Link:
czcams.com/video/amcSPixTZEI/video.html
We will not forget, we will not forgive!
Long live Kosovo freely and independently!
And of course, Vojvodina is next!
Bloody Christmas or Кървавият Божик/Крвав Божиќ is a campaign of political repression in January 1945, part of the political terror in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, in which people with a pronounced Bulgarian self-consciousness were liquidated or mistreated without trial or sentence.
The atrocities committed by the communist authorities began on January 7, the old-style Christian holiday of Christmas.
By order of Marshal Tito, 1,200 Bulgarians were killed at Christmas, and the lists of specific individuals were prepared by Lazar Kolishev-ski, a Serbized Bulgarian and a faithful servant of the dictator.
The aim was to erase the Bulgarian self-consciousness and to accelerate the process of Macedonianization of the population in Vardar Macedonia.
Many sins and bills must to be paid for these former Bulgarian lands.
We will not forget, we will not forgive!
PS:
In memory of all those brave Bulgarians who died, just because they did not want to become Macedonians!
God bless all Bulgarians!☦️🦁🇧🇬
It would have been an even better historic narration if you started in the formation of Yougoslavia, then going through WW2, cold war, etc...
Then he'd have to openly lie even more.
Watch "The weight of chains" on YT.
@@dragodereta6287 its serbian propaganda
This is very faulty and shallow explanation of collapse of Yugoslavia. Any effort to explain divisions between Ex-Yugoslav nations and final collapse without any mention of Greater Serbia as an Serbian idea concieved around mid 19th century will result in very shallow and unsatisfactory explanation of subject. Also, video is containing bunch of ideas which are wrong, first of all, before Yugoslavila broke, Croats and Slovenes naver supported alleged separatism of Albanians at Kosovo autonomuos region, nor such idea existed before late 1990-es. Instead only what existed at Kosovo region during Yugoslav federation were large birthrates among Albanians, which resulted local Serbians suddently became minority, because of which Serbians were anxious. When talking about Kosovo it is iportant to know Serbs consider the place as historical birth place of Serbian nation, this is another important reason they are anxious about fact they became minority there. Furthermore, it is completely wrong idea the collapse of Yugoslavia started because Kosovo, it started mostly because of Serbia led by Slobodan Milosevic, which tried to form Greater Serbia taking large parts of Croatian and Bosnian territory, commiting mass atrocities, ethnical cleansing of non Serbs, and all kind of war crimes. In video you never mentioned fact at beggining of 1990. Serbia led by Milosevic first spread fear among Croatian Serbs, and also Yugoslav army dominated by Serbs gave local serbs abundance of heavy weapons, and they started rebelion against Croatia (very same Russia did at Donbas and Luhansk region in Ukraine). Also video never mentioned, Serbian tanks and thousands of soldiers crossed over Croatian border to invade Croatia, you never mentioned Vukovar, Croatian town at very border of Croatia and Serbia, that was invaded by Serbia. In Vukovar Serbian forces commited huge attrocities ranging from mass rape, mass murder, mutilation of people to arson and destroying historical buildings. Again you would understand subject much much better if you get known better with efforts of creation of Greater Serbia, which led not only to colalpse of second Yugoslavia but also to WW1 and creation of Kingdom of Yugoslavia and all Serbian issues with their neighbours since second half of 19th century till today.
@@IgnjatHorvath REALLY? HA, YOURS is worth a copy paste, thanks!
Thanks for helping to inform your fellow man!I guess I slept through too many World History Classes , ha ?
To the commenter who said the PRODUCER just had this guy reading from Wikipedia, I say WONDERFUL; at least he READS IN ELOQUENT ENGLISH!!IT APPEARS that the whole country was about the SAME SIZE as Italy, too ?
SOME CAPABLE AND ELOQUENT PRODUCERS, FINALLY; WAITING FOR THEIR EXPLANATIONS RE; SERBIA AND CROATIA?
.We were looking for explanations of the Serbian Croation "political problems" and found this.
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR GREAT MAPS, ..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
" The Mississippi Valley Lady" and "Stormy Day Blues-Southern Blues."
FredGold&LyndaFaye
The Illinois Harmony Connection.
Excellent production. Yugoslavia has been the saddest chapter in what was a relatively peaceful break up of the Soviet Union . I still like the title Yugoslavia, and Tito appears to have been one of the few humane dictators .
Tito was humane if you forget that he had 250,000 people shot after WW2, stole private property and had a "gulag" on an sun baked island ( Goli Otok-Barren Island) for political prisoners.
You forgot to mention that Untied States and Europe greatly influenced the divide,and fall of Yugoslavia.
Lynda Faye
0 seconds ago
@Vanja Brankovic like to see YOU and OBLIO 1942 get with this commenter below (which was originally above, ha ) and PRODUCE YOUR OWN VIDEO...Many of us are very curious about what's goin gon in both SERBIA AND CROATIA and in regard to NATO and don't have a CLUE?
Matthew Ferrantino
1 year ago
Italy, Yugoslavia, and Greece could form a new state based preserving ancient languages:
Old Church Slavonic, Mycenaean, and Etruscan for example.
The Slavs need more land to spread out and Italy is not too diverse to handle it.
Redraw the parts of Italy and the parts of Yugoslavia so that everyone has enough room and just drag the cultural buildings where they need to go.
Lynda Faye
0 seconds ago
MAYBE YOU can make a hopeful video on the Serbian and Croatian and (NATO) situation also??
Thanks for helping to inform your fellow man!I guess I slept through too many World History Classes , ha ?
To the commenter who said the PRODUCER just had this guy reading from Wikipedia, I say WONDERFUL; at least he READS IN ELOQUENT ENGLISH!!IT APPEARS that the whole country was about the SAME SIZE as Italy, too ?
SOME CAPABLE AND ELOQUENT PRODUCERS, FINALLY; WAITING FOR THEIR EXPLANATIONS RE; SERBIA AND CROATIA?
.We were looking for explanations of the Serbian Croation "political problems" and found this.
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR GREAT MAPS, ..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
GLOBAL WOMEN AGAINST WAR . ( THE GWAW- in opposition to the Fake Administration of Gangsters-placed in power!)
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
" The Mississippi Valley Lady" and "Stormy Day Blues-Southern Blues."
FredGold&LyndaFaye
The Illinois Harmony Connection.
I feel like not explaining the situation before 1945 doesn't give enough context for why Yugoslavia collapsed. Disputes go far back even before WW1 and balkan wars.
@@timothyhernandez945 actually there is a war every 30-40 years
@@spidvolem8276 yep! And the Serbs started World war one.
@@waynosfotos it would have started anyways
@@waynosfotos that's what they want you to belive.
Tito - “Look what they done to my boy!”
Back in the late 70's in Poli Sci I had a professor who was quite prescient on many things. He told us back then how impressed he was with Tito as that area of the world is a tinderbox. He flat out said, when Tito dies, the whole thing would fall apart and the genocide would make the mideast look like nothing...
He detailed the history of the area and the religious divisions and political ones that go back even prior to that. He nailed it. Then that five centuries of Ottoman rule cemented a hatred in Serbs that still permeates their existences. And ONLY the toughest of them could survive that period holding onto their religion but being second class abused citizens... Then in th 1690's after uprising the tides turned and a large percentage of the Serbs left their lands to move to Austria given a choice of Ottoman reprisals vs living in a Christian land. The Ottomans repopulated these lands with Muslims and engaged in some ethnic cleansing, not forgotten...and the tides churned with these genocidal dynamics until the Ottoman Empire began to crumble and the European countries moved in with their own agendas further stirring the pot and then one day a Serb got so fed up with the external intervention he assassinated the Arch Duke Ferdinand and triggerd WWI, and during this period as much as 25% or more of all Serbians died.
Then WWII, Soviet Union and Tito... He one, understood the religious divisions and so, "Communism" held its attractions as it was effectively anti-religion so he had a wedge there to work with. But also the affiliation with Russia which still held Eastern Orthodox Christianity roots, tied to Serbian Eastern Orthodox was in play at different levels of society so there was that and Tito worked them all... He even managed to keep the area relatively autonomous within the context of the Soviet Union and the part that impressed my professor is how he somehow held the disparate populations at bay even to the point of working together at least on the surface. Perhaps if four or five generations had managed to go by like this the end result might have been different, but Tito was unique. He died and the place exploded as my professor said it would... But the pot still simmers... This is an extreme oversimplification, but points toward core issues that characterize the area today... The UN intervention did stop things but only like a band aid stops the bleeding and that only occurred because Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union was in disarray. And in the end, the seeds of future wars and genocide are still in place waiting to take root and grow...
The affinity between Serbs and Russia is always there and the Muslims are scared pooless of the Serbs but quite European in other respects and do not necessarily identify with the mid east stuff and the rest try to get away (Montenegro/Macedonia) and just hope another generation doesn't get caught up in death and destruction again. I am not judging anyone in this analysis either... No goods, no bads, the history of everyone going after everyone's throats there is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years old. The hatreds are so deep and entrenched it is hard to understand for others. This I got from my Professor. It is still a powder keg ready to blow up...
WOW, THAT'S worth copy pasting. Thanks!
IT APPEARS that the whole country was about the SAME SIZE as Italy, too ? I guess I slept through too many World History Classes , ha ?
SOME CAPABLE AND ELOQUENT PRODUCERS, FINALLY; WAITING FOR THEIR EXPLANATIONS RE; SERBIA AND CROATIA?
.We were looking for explanations of the Serbian Croation "political problems" and found this.
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR GREAT MAPS, ..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
" The Mississippi Valley Lady" and "Stormy Day Blues-Southern Blues."
FredGold&LyndaFaye
The Illinois Harmony Connection.
I remember vacating at Krk with my parents when I was a child, a year or so before the nation dissolved into war.
Assuming this is an attempt of explanation for those who know little about, it is pretty well done. There is, however an important fact missing in the introduction. The Kingdom of Jugoslavia was created only in the 1918. The main nations that formed it, Serbs and Croats, before 1918 and never before in the human history lived together under one state or one kingdom.
It was called the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians (SHS). They did not recognize Montenegrins, Macedonians and Bosnians.
@@andrejgrebenc3235 Quite true, and also, the very name "Jugoslavija" was formalized by the king only in the late 20's, not before.
Decko ti pojma nemas o ovome, raspitaj se malo ,malo vise
Yugoslavia was made up of several State Unions, some of which trace their roots back to 1189. And the idea of Yugoslavia gathered true fighters against the world order of that time
SHS kingdom?
This is what you get when you force people who do not want to to live together
It also happens when you want to chip away other country's territory by force.
@@libertas5005 sounds like the future of Israel and palestine conflict then
I never felt forced , I loved my country...
Lol no no the west divide you. Yugoslavia was a beautiful country before the west involved
@@prohabetamu lol to you too. Beautiful country if you were an army officer or/and Communist Party member and so on like in any ex-communist country.
I loved Yugoslavia when I visited. It was so beautiful and peaceful. It just breaks my heart the horrors committed in its break-up. I hope time will help the healing and abate the hate, although,the end result will never be forgotten.
I was waiting patiently to learn about Fyrom!! I guess I'll have to go to Wikipedia!!
FYROM = Former Yugoslav Republic Of Macedonia. Since there is part of Greece (neighbor on the south) with the name Macedonia, Greeks opposed that new country take name Macedonia, so for years (until last year or year before) this country has that silly name "Former Yugoslav Republic...". Last year or year before, however very recent past, Greeks and FYROM made an agreement and both accepted that the new name of the country will be 'North Macedonia", and that is official name of that country today.
@@jasnazivkovic969 🙏🙏 Thank you so much for sharing that information with me. Please have a great night!
@@quasimotto8653 You too 😊
@@jasnazivkovic969 Some commenters are saying this NARRATOR IS MERELY "READING" directly from Wikipedia...What do YOU think? At least is speaks English eloquently, and allot of viewers are really tired of videos not expressed well...
@Vanja Brankovic like to see YOU and OBLIO 1942 get with this commenter below (which was originally above, ha ) and PRODUCE YOUR OWN VIDEO...Many of us are very curious about what's really going on, in both SERBIA AND CROATIA and in regard to NATO and don't have a CLUE?
Matthew Ferrantino
1 year ago
Italy, Yugoslavia, and Greece could form a new state based preserving ancient languages:
Old Church Slavonic, Mycenaean, and Etruscan for example.
The Slavs need more land to spread out and Italy is not too diverse to handle it.
Redraw the parts of Italy and the parts of Yugoslavia so that everyone has enough room and just drag the cultural buildings where they need to go.
Lynda Faye
0 seconds ago
MAYBE YOU can make a hopeful video on the Serbian and Croatian and (NATO) situation also??
Thanks for helping to inform your fellow man!I guess I slept through too many World History Classes , ha ?
To the commenter who said the PRODUCER just had this guy reading from Wikipedia, I say WONDERFUL; at least he READS IN ELOQUENT ENGLISH!!IT APPEARS that the whole country was about the SAME SIZE as Italy, too ?
SOME CAPABLE AND ELOQUENT PRODUCERS, FINALLY; WAITING FOR THEIR EXPLANATIONS RE; SERBIA AND CROATIA?
.We were looking for explanations of the Serbian Croation "political problems" and found this.
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR GREAT MAPS, ..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
GLOBAL WOMEN AGAINST WAR . ( THE GWAW- in opposition to the Fake Administration of Gangsters-placed in power!)
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
" The Mississippi Valley Lady" and "Stormy Day Blues-Southern Blues."
FredGold&LyndaFaye
The Illinois Harmony Connection.
This War was pure Horror. Never again!!!
Yeah, like U live here and know
@Marko Perunić I think you need to go much farther back than that. Perhaps Kosovo 1389? These problems don't arise overnight.
@@magdaw3123 I think you need to go back to the invasion of the Slavs from the North. The Turks came after hundreds of years of wars between the peoples in the Balkans. Bosnia survived 8 to 10 Catholic and Orthodox crusades against her "heretic" people... before the Turks conquered the land.
@@magdaw3123 Not necessarily. Before Serbs and Albanians lived among eachother peaceful in the 1800's where many Albanians converted to Islam relations started to sour.
@@someguysomeone3543 not true. Sometimes people tolerate a status quo because they have no choice (power) to do anything about it. On the outside it seems like people don't mind each other, but what happens behind closed doors and in their hearts is a different story...
One very important factor is missing.
As the socioeconomic system was clearly collapsing some communist party members (from all the republics) got _very preoccupied_ about the loosing power perspective and started to play the nationalist card.
There were some foreign(Germany and Italy in particular) interventions as well...and things got way out of hand.
You said it! Germany took revenge for the painful defeat they had in WWII against Marshall Tito!
@@Keralaforum Germany was not avenging Nazi Germany
@@saccorhytus Not so simple- There were elements of NAZI nationalism in Croatia ..
Reliable intelligence sources claimed in 1990, that in 1988 Mr. Tudjman paid a secret visit to the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) and met with Chancellor Kohl and other senior Government Ministers. It was said that the aim of the visit was to formulate a joint policy to break-up Yugoslavia, leading to the re-creation of a new independent State of Croatia with international borders in the form originally set up by the German Chancellor, Adolf Hitler, in 1941. At a secret meeting in Bonn, the German Government pledged its political, financial, and covert military support for Croatia’s secession from the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia .
Evidence of the axis in action occurred on October 4, 1990, when, even though still a part of Yugoslavia, Croatia was covertly provided with a US$2-Billion interest free loan, repayable in full after 10 years and a day. The loan was provided by the Ordre Souverain of Militaire de Saint-Jean de Jerusalem, Chevaliers-Hospitaliers de Malte. ..This US$2-Billion loan has never appeared in any Croatian Government financial statement.
During late 1989, and throughout 1990, arms flowed from Germany to Croatia to equip militia units. After HDZ party (Croatian Democratic Union) won control of Sabor in the May 30, 1990, multi-party elections, the newly elected President Tudjman formed a National Guard Corps (ZNG). In effect, the ZNG was not a "national" force in the accepted meaning of the word, rather it was the ultra-nationalist, neo-Ustashi military wing of Tudjman’s HDZ political party, in the same way that the "Brownshirts" of the 1930’s acted as the vanguard enforcement wing of Hitler’s National Party.
The rest is history .. Croatia & Slovenia split .. and what not ...Germany Played a crucial role in the destruction and breakup of Yugoslavia!
Not really. tito was a 'friend' with some american characters. they gave him money in order to buy some huge diamonds for american prostitutes. When criminal died criminals came running, claiming that he borrowed tremendous amounts which no one know how to prononuce, which Jugoslavian people had to pay back in one day... Typical, fascist manipulation.
Let‘s put it this way: no one wanted a strong Yugoslavia in the middle of Europe…better put them in another union, where they could be in the lower ranks but just because Germany, France would be on top…
It would be insane to see nowadays former Yugoslav sporting teams competing. Just rethink all those great guys in the NBA, even the strongest and most motivated current US team would have problems dealing with that team.
Thank you! 😁👍
My friend who was there at, university of Belgrade, told me his version. Yugoslavia had very good economy and even held the Olympics, people were happy. Major source of income came from production of weapons sold to middle east ,Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan mostly. In return Yugoslavia got oil . That became a bone of contention with ISRAEL ,which held a US backed franchise on that racket . US was easily persuaded to intervene, as war overseas means great profits for MIC. CIA used ,ethnically fragile state of the union of Yugoslavia to foster dissent ,using mostly religious and 'tribal' divisions and sentiments among radical groups. Perfect target was Serbia, with high nationalistic ambitions ,as Serbians ,unlike other ethnic people, were living in all parts of Yugoslavia and felt suppressed and misrepresented. These sentiments go back to 14 hundreds, when region was invaded successfully by Turkey, resulting in influx of Islamic people migrating and settling in the area.. This ancient but simmering resentment was used by CIA as a fuse to create havoc and eventual collapsing of the entire country. Serbian nationalist were supplied with money ,arms and propaganda by US and ISRAEL. Once the fighting started it very quickly escalated and atrocities combined with CONTROLLED media coverage, stoked the fire. Que bono? You make your own assumptions, as to these who will try to vilify me for this account , I disclaim,this NOT my opinion ,nor do I consider this an accurate analysis, merely relating what a Yugoslavian ,highly educated refugee friend of mine conveyed to me. Knowing of US and ISRAEL shenanigans, I tend to believe this has some truth in it.
And that is correct!
Very useful, thankyou so much for all that information!
Thanks for this opinion of yours. I really like people coming up with different points of views like this. Before watching this videos and reading so many comments, I was thinking that YUGOSLAVIA still existed as a sovereign country but in fact it had vanished as a country.
America hates countries that may become stronger then them, thats why they destroy the government and invade. Its the USA way of dictatorship
This is wrong on many levels and represents the dominant conspiracy theory propagated by Serbian war propaganda under Milošević. The reasons for the collapse are a lot more complicated and a lot more nuanced, both locally and geo-politically. The US and Israel had nothing to do with this. If anything, they ignored the conflict for far too long (until the Clinton administration).
This series of events fascinates a lot of us, not least of which is it happened right in front of a lot of us in real time. Pretty much all of us 1990’s teenagers remember at least one Bosnian refugee family. And saw this on the news through the entire decade.
It would've been a miracle if any actual facts and data reached you with the way CNN and BBC were censoring them.
We received HUNDREDS of Bosnian families here in our small town of Bowling Green, KY, USA. They quickly adapted to our way of life and easily became productive and very good people. One started a trucking business and is now a Millionaire!!! Occasionally, you do see Bosnian last names in the crime section of the newspaper. It is mostly due to alcohol, like driving a car and wrecking it while drinking.
@@mikelastname1220 your way of life is in caucassian roots which come straight out of bosnia long before britain was even settled or sweden.
unfortunately even though you progressed you are still manipulated through your goodness and kindness to the point where its just plain stupid and self destructive...and you carry that burden without even knowing it...just like the old ones ...
My mom taught me about the history of this because she herself lived through it. That's why she came to the United States in 1992, when she was only 12 years old. She has seen her friends in wheelchairs or missing arms because of the war.
It doesn't matter how Yugoslavia fell apart, it matters who is involved in dividing the people of Yugoslavia and separating the people, that is, that they are at war with each other.
Thx so so much for this effortless clips very knowledgeable indeed
So far
We r just human being
Religious
Believe or even attitudes shall be respectful as norm around this little blue planet
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Title: "Why did Yugoslavia collapse?"
Me: Cause Tito died.
Google: Dorde Martinovic
Thats what my high school history teacher taught also.
czcams.com/video/oa715Ti3L04/video.html much more complicated than that
The break up of Yugoslavia led to the end of Yugo Auto. Supply parts came from several different republic that were at war with each other. Left over parts were used but soon faced quality control issues
yet they still exist
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR MAP..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anythng, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and God Gave them One More Day.
FredGold&LyndaFaye.
I live 32 years in this ex country and really you said a lot but only from serbian factor, you didn't mentioned Alija Izetbegović and many things about Franjo Tuđman. But, most important thing CIA factor, you can't fool us all ;)
I always watch this channel's videos. They provide short but important information within 10/12 minutes. Thanks team Knowledgia.
This guy is a click baiter litteraly reading from wiki
@Neki Lik what?
@Neki Lik are you from the balkans
If you aren't, ofc you wouldn't notice the fact that it's clickbait
@Neki Lik ovo je toliko besmisleno
Razbacano, prvo priča o hrvatskoj pa celo Kosovo, pa crna gora
What you say im not understand.
Can't talk about this problem without mentioning religion problems...
and a historical perspective of the evolution of the national identities since Greek times
would be much appreciated...
also the 'middle ages' influence of Venice, Ottoman empire, etc. etc.
waitin' for a second video with this points cleared,,, ;-)
You are correct, but religious problems can easily be swept under ethnic difference since it coincided with other ethnic lines.
SOME CAPABLE AND ELOQUENT PRODUCERS, FINALLY; WAITING FOR THEIR EXPLANATIONS RE; SERBIA AND CROATIA?
.We were looking for explanations of the Serbian Croation "political problems" and found this.
wow! BINGO! We usually go to AMIT SEGUPTA FOR MAP..but THIS NARRATOR is very eloquent, easy to learn from; and his map is excellent also; What do World History students in the U.S.A. think about Serbia or Croatia , when all they can remember is the DRAMAS of all of the movie characters escaping Yugoslavia ? EXCELLENT VIDEO; THANK YOU SO MUCH!
"I'd Give You Anything, if to me You Could Explain..Why War?"
and " God Gave them One More Day."
" The Mississippi Valley Lady" and "Stormy Day Blues-Southern Blues."
FredGold&LyndaFaye
The Illinois Harmony Connection.
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Fun fact: i was on the last flight Yugoslav Airlines made but i didn't KNOW that at the time. We got dumped in Belgrade and had to ro make our way to the British Embassy in a foreign city with no money. I remember walking past a billboard in a market on the way to the Embassy and realising that the boars was covered in porn. Not 'good' porn but some real nasty shit and this with kids running around the market: very disturbing.