Don't Buy This Car (Worst Transmission Ever Made)
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- Ford Focus car review. Please DO NOT Buy a Ford with This Transmission, DIY and car review with auto mechanic Scotty Kilmer. Buying a Ford Focus. Is the Ford Focus worth it? Buying a new Ford Focus. Buying a used Ford Focus. Should I buy a Ford Focus. Are Ford Focuses reliable? The truth about the Ford Focus. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 55 years.
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400,000 on my2012 ford focus motor run like a charm.
Buy a Toyota
I have a 2014 Focus. It did break one clutch, and they fixed it after many hours of documentation and complaints. Afterwards, it was good for awhile, no shuddering. Then it came back. Flashed the tcm, and went away only to come back. Then I discovered the ground of the controll modual was the problem. I took off the grounds on both the tcm and battery, and ground off the paint. I put nolox on it and put it back together and reflashed the tcm. No issues now. I think the poor ground connection is the issue.
Proud owner of 2012 focus titanium, 177836 miles today. Replaced clutch unit at 165000 ish miles, catalytic converted at 130000 ish miles, and engine/transmission mounts at 120000 ish miles. Very satisfied with the vehicle overall, only other costs were regular maintenance. BTW: the harder you drive it the better the transmission shifts. If it shudders low speed, take it out and do 3-4 stopped WOT to 50 mph runs to reset the clamp force and touch points of the clutches...butter shifts after. And I get almost 40 MPG on long trips and steady high 20's daily. Love my focus.
My wife has a 2014 escape titanium, she got the service records with it, it had a new cat put in it at less tha 40k miles,Idk if it was stolen and replaced, or what happened... but it was odd, and the lower control arms were replaced before 100k, but our roadsin NH and MA suck..so that didn't help. But ,it's at 121k , no issues so far, but,she got it last year with 110k on it with a 3 yr 36k mile warranty
Mine only gets 34 miles to the gallon. I was really happy with that, UNTIL I read your post and saw how many miles to the gallon you're getting lol. Now I got to admit...I'm kind of bummed
We recently sold our 2001 Ford Escort with over 250,000miles. It is still on the road. I see it around town occasionally. Except for regular oil changes, tires, brakes and other general wear and tear we had no issues. The engine did not use a drop of oil between changes. We bought it new for $9000.
Same experience with a 2001 cavalier, drove it to scrap yard with the air conditioning blowing cold and 500,000 miles on original engine and transmission. Too bad the frame was too rusted and no longer safe.
@John Savi sounds like you should've took a sledge hammer to the frame once you got there
75 poll
And ??? This is about the ford focus/fiesta 2012 to 2015
Fords from those years would last a long time. The newer models 2015 were not that reliable anymore, mostly because of coolant leaking problems in- and outside the motor.
Here in Ireland and Europe,the Ford Focus is probably Fords best ever car!! Thats because automatics are rare ovver here
Smart 🇺🇸 Drive a 6 speed manual equipped cars 🙂.
A Focus with a manual is a great combo that will give very very few problems
But overseas , the Focus sold are with manual transmission , big difference
@@hectorramirez6045 Fiestas and Foci were sold here as sticks too. The Fiesta S was stick for $13000. I've only seen stick on the Focus for the sport models which cost extra.
The Focus/Fiesta were primarily secretary cars...both sporting nearly identical bodies to "competing" brands like Kia, Hyundai, Chevy...
We have a 2017 that my son drives! He is absolutely horrific with cars, but the Focus has survived him so far! Houston misses you Scotty!
Get him a buss pass. 😒
I have a 2012 sel 2.0L DCT made in michigan with 120k miles, Ford changed the TCM at about 80k miles. Before that it had the akward shifting until the tcm overload from mykey limitations as a prank and my gf kept flooring it and got stuck. Before the replacement and reprogram was a totally new car, shifts great and never got new problems. Best value for the dolar here in Chile. I buy it at 70kmiles for about $5000 dolars in early 2020. Love your channel Scotty, best regards!
we have a '17 model, the reason ours is still good is probably because we live in the country and have very little stop and go driving, if you baby it, or floorboard it, it does fine, but certain situations it does the chattering that everyone talks about. we have 125k on it and it's still driving the same as it ever did, it's been a good reliable car. we even have a trailer we use with it to haul everything from riding mowers and motorcycles, and been on many long trips with the 4 x 8 trailer loaded down to almost taking all the travel out of the trailer's suspension and cruising at highway speeds and it just keeps on truckin. over the years we have had a lot of vehicles that were worn out at this amount of miles but this little car shows no signs of dying on us so far
I bought a used 2012 Focus back in 2014. Traded it in for a 2013 Corolla one year later. I just couldn't handle the transmission. But, what you said about the handling was spot on. The car handled fantastically and the interior was amazingly roomy.
It’s a shame. Is this and the Fiesta had normal automatics, these would’ve been great cars then and good used cars now.
@@justabarefootcollegeboy4934 if you can get a newer fiesta of the same gen, it's got a DCT that actually functions reliably
I used to work for Ford when they came out
First year they came out they had a recall and every car had seals replaced in the dual clutch system and the job was pretty technical.
(Lots of different bolts tightened to different torque specs, and seals pressed with specific tension, reprogramming etc)
Didn't see much about the transmission after that however we didn't really worry about them after warranty
I love how you pick out certain and different scan tools depending on which car you test.
I may never own a Ford but dig the overview in case a friend asks!
It is a shame Ford has near totally gone to the dogs.
Like most every formerly proud USA Built company.
His hand gestures are like a car engine .. always moving ! Great vid like always
I traded a 2015 Focus last year. I had it for 7 years. It was a good car. I went through the whole clutch fiasco but my dealer eventually got it to were it wasn’t that noticeable.
Here in the UK the Focus is a very popular car, it handles well and is both pokey and economical. The main difference is that the UK much prefer manual (stick) transmission. We don't encounter the problem Scotty is describing. A new clutch fitted can be done for circa £1000 .
As an American I'm disappointed in my countrymen. They all drive automatics to the point that companies don't even sell manual here anymore, leaving people like me bitter.
@@MountainStew02 As bad as most people drive the last thing I want is them having to devote brain power to operating the transmission while driving.
@@paulmememan508 might help them keep their autistic hands off their cell phone at the same time though,
@@MountainStew02 Nah they'd just end up texting and shifting at the same time 🤣
European Fords have always been better made than their U.S. counterparts
Any tips for my 2014 focus st scotty thanks a bunch love ur channel
Scotty,most of those DPS6 issues was the TCM with broken solder connections.Another trick,you can swap those TCM's as long as they come off the same year salvage and no programming required.I have fixed a many of them,and still do all the time!
I heard somewhere it was because the TCM isn't grounded properly. If you make sure to scrub off all paint on the grounding points and use some electrically conductive grease, it'll solve all the problems. But I find it hard to believe the engineers at Ford would overlook a simple solution as that and rather settle on buying back the cars instead.
Will you look at my post I just made please? What do you think the issue could be? Thank you!
The best thing is just to junk the piece of junk
@@lisarhinehart1063 I didn't see your post if you was speaking to me?Sorry!
@@SurgemanX I was. Do you have any advice? I cranked her up and she drove fine for awhile... Reverse and all. Should I try reprogramming or look for a junkyard tcm? Need a new wheel too so 2 birds and all...
I have a fiesta with that transmission and that thing still drives well after 110k miles and I personally love the way the transmission shifts
Key to the DCT lasting is drive it harder. Don't be afraid to put your foot into it. They shift better and last longer that way. People that baby them have the most problems.
That's why (partly) I bought my 2016 with a manual transmission. 41 mpg on the open hwy, no junk transmission :)
Manual every time, they can shove the alto gearbox's.
Got a 16 focus with manual transmission no problems so far 271k miles. Yes do get about 40 mpg highway.
If you could harness the energy of Scotty's hand movements you could power 1,000 homes . . .
Speaking out of ignorance of course, (I always do) but it seems to me that the dual clutch transmission is expensive, and bound to be less reliable so you should only buy one if that's what you specifically want, and the only reason you would want one would be if you plan to drive aggressively and take advantage of the razor-sharp shifting. For me, I'm long past the stage of using public roads as a race track. Even if I wasn't I'd rather do it with a manual clutch. I feel it gives me more control. Automatics are only good if you plan to drive like an old lady (which I do, most of the time.) Speaking of which I am so pissed that so many manufacturers have dropped the manual as an option for the 2023 model year. I guess I'll be driving my 2004 Vibe until I get too old to drive and they take my license away.
Well you're probably older than I am and that's fair. I guess we all age out of it. And they're not great transmissions but you're right that they like a little heavier of a foot.
I make mine shift out of first gear around 3,000 RPM. Enough to make the trans happy and not kill my fuel mileage or me.
With technology so advanced now an automatic will shift better than any human.
The reason so many manufacturers are going to DCTs is fuel efficiency. They can be about 10% better than a torque converter box. That looks better on the MPG sticker, and also makes the EPA happier.
Yes they really should include manual transmission as a cheaper option for new cars
@@thetapheonix Maybe Tesla will downshift itself right before you crash into object?
Man. I had a 2015 eco boost in race red with the body kit and the manual but the ecoboost was the 1 liter 3 cylinder model. One of my favorite slow cars of all time I loved it
That paint failure you point out is a blend zone from a repair.
I was forced to buy a Ford explorer...I was scared and tried to turn it back in a few times ....but i had it since 2006 and it beautiful....no major stuff until 2020... I put 2000 in it and I expect it to run for another 5 years
I bought a 2012 Focus new - first year of the new design. Put 456,000 kms on it all highway with no problems. Now onto a 2017 Focus with 260,000 kms on the odometer with no issues all highway driving. The interior on my 2017 hatchback is roomy and the hatch is very convenient. I want more hatchbacks out there !
Just turned 105,000 miles on my 2016 focus. I do mostly highway driving. Haven't had any issues lately. When I got it, it had a bad shudder at 50,000 miles. Took it to the dealer and they did something so no problems since . Keeping my fingers crossed.
I have a 2014 Ford Focus that I bought brand new. Every year that I have owned it, it spends 3 to 6 months in the shop for transmission repairs. Last time it failed my wife was driving 70MPH & it downshifted into 1st gear almost sending her into the guardrail. To Ford's credit they have always warranty repaired it & provided a free rental to use while it is in the shop.
I bought my daughter a 2012 Focus. The cooling fan went out and that was about it. So far running great.
Better knock on wood!!🪵
They have very few problems. My 2013 Focus SE has 383,000km on it still running like a top. The first time My mechanic drove it (at 295,000) he was blown away. He thought it was 29,500km. I said no, it's 295k and he was beside himself. Said it ran and drove like a new car. Still uses next to no oil between oil changes. I do synthetic every 7500km. Do about 50/50 highway/city. In almost 4 years of ownership and almost 100k all I've replaced is an alternator($250), coolant reservoir($45) oil pressure switch ($5.35 at the dealer!) And an evap purge valve($65). Been a great car. Paid $2900 Canadian for it in 2019 and I've easily got my moneys worth out of it already.
@@derekgardin1512 that’s only 183,304 miles. In any event, I’m glad you aren’t having any problems so far. The problem with my sister’s was the transmission, and Ford claims they could not fix what was wrong with the trans. So they had to buy it back. It will never be right. I hope they don’t try to sell it to someone else. Nothing by American manufacturers is worth owning any more, outside one or two exceptions. Japan has it for the auto market.
@@derekgardin1512 sounds like a great car!
Living in Germany owning a Focus Mk4. Drives still fine at 200 km/h on the Autobahn 😅manual transmission 😊
The same here 😉 Made in Köln (Cologne), manual, 0 problems. The best driving feeling in mid class thru corners, much better then my new c-class.
Absolutely no problems with the manual transmissions in these Ford's. It's just the Power Shift. Or as I called mine, POS. 🤣
Wish I could find manual transmission in USA.
Automatic trans were the ones Ford is having problems with.
@@a.s.4914 yes, you couldn’t have said that any better.
"The man's smart", says Scotty. How? He bought a 2015 Ford Focus, didn't he?
Buying any Ford is a mistake
If you know what you're doing, you can get a bargain. A lot of the problems with the DCTs are actually easy and cheap to fix. You have to be prepared to DIY though, because dealers and most transmission specialists just see these as a gold mine.
Primary car is a Corolla.
A 2012-2018 Focus with a manual is a bulletproof combo that you can buy for cheap. I bought a 2013 in 2019 for $2900 and it's currently at 383,000km running like a top.
Yep I had one of those, 2012 Focus Titanium & at 120,000 miles it slipped twice going to work, after work that day I drove it straight to the dealership & traded.
I still miss my 2018 Focus ST. That thing had such a sick paint job and interior for the price. It had the leather Recaro seats
Always good to test drive a car before buying it. Especially if some "new" mechanical design.
That paint is so nice!
I bought my wife a used 2014 focus with 134k miles on it. Owner claimed the transmission kicked a little. I paid 3k for it and scrapped the ground points and now runs like new. She loves it. And I own a ford explorer and love my truck but can't lie that I do enjoy driving the focus from time to time considering it's a small car and I'm a big guy. I must say it's a fun car to drive.
Bought my 2013 Focus ST with the 6 speed manual. Ten years later, it's still got the original clutch and all I've done is tires, brakes and a battery. And wipers. That's all.
Whoopsy. I guess some of the Dearborn/Allen Park engineering managed to sneak that by the bean counters.😆😆
Whoops I have 2018 ford focus se. Ive had it for 5 years. It works so far. Hopefully no future problems
A Ford dealer told me once they replaced the seals then the dcts worked good. My 14 focus has been excellent after 138k miles but I get it into hi gear quickly like a standard
We purchased a 12 focus new. The clutch was replaced at 30k miles. I found if you drove it like you stole it the transmission was happy. Throttle inputs determined how it shifted. If you tried to soft peddle it that transmission would often get confused. I liked the car...personally the standard transmission would have suited me better...but not wife 😆 Traded in 18 for Escape 2.5L naturally aspirated engine. Happy with the Escape!
I have to replace my forks and I was going to put a new clutch in it as well any advice of anything else I should change let me know thanks great videos
Clutch in my 2014 focus with 167,500 miles just went in December. Dealer wanted almost 4000 to replace. Bought a 2023 trailblazer
Just got rid of an 18 Focus, had 73400 miles on it. Upgraded to a 21 Ranger, but that's neither here nor there. It had issues with the transmission, but nowhere near as bad as the Fiesta I drove for a while. I don't know if it was just an issue of a manufacturing defect or because the car was smaller and thus it was more noticeable, but holy hell. Dealer charged $1250 to replace the clutch and do the TCM reprogram. Got it refunded in the class action.
I never owned one. But I worked for a Federal Agency before I retired five years ago. At one time my office had a Ford Focus. I would have to be out on the road all day sometimes. I liked driving the Focus. I though it handled well. And it was a peppy little car. We had it for about a year until it got reassigned. As I recall no issues with it. And it was in New Jersey
I love my standard transmission (6 speed Elantra).
I know how you feel my sonata is great I'd never go to an American car every my second car is an Acura as well
We bought one new in 2012. Sold it with 30k miles. From day one you could feel it skipping gears. The dealer said it’s learning you. But what if two people are driving it? I was leaving a business parking lot and started moving then it stalled in front of 45 mph traffic. Was waiting at a light on an incline, while in Drive, and it rolled back. Thank goodness no one was behind me. If we got a manual transmission then we’d probably still have it. Oh but that annoying chime when getting in.
I had a 2015 Focus, the engines seem very solid, the NA 2.0s. It was twice in the shop for "newly designed" clutch packs. I got rear ended sitting at a red light and it was totalled. Lucky day, actually. The dreaded "shudder" sucks on these if your crawling in heavy traffic it feels like it's going to die out they shudder so badly......thanks for the video Scotty.
Like when you are stopping and don't press the clutch 😁
@@kastellolo5212 exactly. I drove a stick for 16 years and I almost bought the Focus with one, but heavy traffic and stick doesn't mix.....I was done shifting.
@@a.s.4914 me
If I had 3 vehicles 1 would be a standard shift other than that I'm done.
I’ve had mine shudder like once or twice but it’s not even that bad. If feels like the computer doesn’t know how much clutch to engage so it freaks out. I wonder if it could be fixed with software
...judder🤷♂️😏😬😖
This transmission has been a nightmare for me when I got it from a used dealer but it was only the actuators that kept going out and it was shitty aftermarket actuators that they used that place warranty was crap so since I started working at a dealership now I replaced them with ford oem actuators and haven’t had any issues since. I used my big fancy scanner to do the relearn and it shifts like butter now
2010 focus. 330k miles. Still getting it
Well this generation is 2012-2018 so you are safe
Yessir I have a 2008 focus se and they're great
Had a 2013 back in 2017(bought used with 32,000 miles) and went to the dealer for repair 3 times in a year and let me stranded the 3 times got rid of the stupid thing. Almost got in a accident as well one time when the computer for the transmission went crazy.
I bought a used 2012 Ford Focus SE from Avis Car Sales with 30k mileage on it. Around 100,000, I had a clutch issue that cost me $1,800. I wasn’t upset by this. I thought it could be worse. After having the clutch replacement. There were no more problems. Like people previously have stated. The handling on this car was great, so fun to drive. This car had great low end torque. I finally sold the car at 130k for $3500. The transmission was an issue but otherwise a great car.
Like many others my 2014 focus has a horrible shudder between 1st and 2nd gear. The dealer here is booked out three months on checking transmissions so I have a while to go before they’ll even look at it. Mine is past the warranty for the clutches but still under warranty for the TCM… at least mine is equipped with Sport mode, where the transmission shifts a lot better since it revs higher in that mode. However it still isn’t perfect because when it goes down hill in Sport mode it will downshift for no reason. So now when I drive I keep it in sport mode 90% of the time, then have to go back to Drive mode when coasting down a hill so it doesn’t rev to 5k rpm 💀💀💀 I can’t wait to get rid of this car.
My 2014 focus has the same exact shudder between 1st and 2nd gear. The transmissions are absolutely crap on the 2012-2016 Ford Focus. Mine does not have sport mode though.
Hey Scotty what do u think about tiptronic transmissions (autos that have the ability to be manually shifted)?
Bang on Scotty. This box is pure junk. Regardless of trans fluid regular change the box will still fail. Avoid like the plague
lol I have a 2013 Focus. Couldn't agree more on the transmission! Every now and then the car would refuse to switch to gear and takes 10 minutes to start since connection with TCM is constantly lost.
I leased a 2015 Focus with the 1.0L, 3 cyl Ecoboost with a 6 speed manual. Wasn't a terrible car although 4th gear started grinding out of nowhere after about 25k miles. Never abused. Luckily the tranny was replaced under warranty.
If that doesn't scream pos idk what does lmao
The big issue is there is no fix. New Tcm but it will go out again. Thank God I'm like Scotty and have the fancy equipment. You gotta reprogram Tcm that doubles as PCM then it's gotta do a trans apadtaion with a high-end scan tool.
My Wife and I had a 2015 Ford Focus SE. I called it the Ford FUs. We had three transmissions put in it by the dealership and the Transmission still jerked and pulled. Yes, they are great on gas mileage but the inside materials were horrible. The radio cuts out often, the door seals would just fall off when you opened the door, the battery was always corroded all the time. It was a mess. Got rid of that thing. I would want to know what Ford did with those Focuses when they bought them back. Did they send them to the crushers or just auctioned them off overseas.
I have a 2015 Ford Focus and had all recalled service done to it regarding the dual-clutch transmission. My recent issue is the car had started a new problem...Overnight battery drain. I replace the battery at my local Ford dealer and 6 months later...same problem again. My dad owns a 2016 Ford Fusion (the last models before they replaced the gear selector knob and ignition to push-button start/stop). I'm thinking should I replace my Focus for a used Fusion?
I have one of these, a 2017 with the allegedly fixed version of this transmission. Currently at 115K with no issues other than routine stuff like oil and brakes.
I try to go gentle on it to not wear out the clutch, I kinda like the sportier shifts it does. Not a bad car if you know how to treat it right.
I have a 2014 with the manual transmission love it
Scottie, I watch your videos all the time and like some and disagree with some of your presentations. Having put 125,000 miles on a 2014 Focus with the power shift twin clutch transmission, I had a different experience. I believe that when this transmission is driven aggressively on occasion it works perfectly all the time. I realize that you shouldn’t expect all customers to drive like I do and I suspect you as well. I thought it humorous when you downplayed the acceleration. This car is a little tiger and handles far better than anything else for the money. I found mine to be very quiet at speed and that it delivered 40 mpg at 75mph on fairly level interstate. The engine neither leaked or burned any oil at 7500 mile intervals. I wish mine had been a manual, not because of any problem I had with the automatic, but because, like you, I just prefer to shift with a manual clutch. Made in Mexico, no problems at all. Did you know that MIT surveyed some time ago 85 auto plants worldwide and found that the highest consistent quality came from Ford’s Hermosillo assembly plant in Mexico.
Drive like Hell for Automatics? I have destroyed Chryslers, Fords, and GM Autos.
Imports? NOPE. I Cannot afford V8 Eurospec
Machines, or even Boxer 6sixes from Stuttgart
Or Crazy Milano mid engine supercars.
Automatic? I can break it guaranteed.
Have a 2014 too and bought it new. Just replaced clutches at 140k and it's running fine again. Like you, I keep my foot on it and the tranny doesn't get so confused that way. Other than that it's been great. Goes like a bat when jumped on and handles great too. Gonna keep it for a few more years I think.
Thomas, I drove a 2012 Focus for a company car, was brand new, I drive very conservatively and the dual clutch automatic was horrible. Along with 5 other 2012 and 2013 Focus cars we had, all of them did make it to their destination but we all complained that the transmissions were horrible and needed replacing. Glad you happened to get one that was, in our experiences, an exception to the rule. I'll never buy any vehicle in the future with a DCT.
😂😂😂
I'll never get on the Ford made in Mexico bandwagon just out of principle. Ford is bland, and the Focus needs two "U"s in the name.
Can’t wait to get rid of my ‘14
They get buried with the Wind turbine blades, covered in dirt. Because it's green.
My wife had this pos and the transmission kept failing and Ford just kept resetting the software until it left her stranded. You took your life in your hands trying to pull out into traffic lol. We left it at Ford and said you keep it. They did help get another focus but, it's not had the same issue thankfully. 🙏
Amazing they actually helped you out. Ford corporate was useless when my car blew the clutch and needed a new TCM
@@jennifergavino6403 I was shocked too.. after "fixing" it repeatedly until it just left us stranded not being able to go more than a few feet without slipping, it took a while and after the recall they finally did something.. not happily but, finally lol.
Just get an EV, then you won't have to deal with transmissions ever again
@@crush41gb Happy it all worked out for you and Ford did the right thing! Lesson learned, I’ll never buy another Ford again 😅
@@jennifergavino6403 thank you! I totally understand and thank God I have a 2011 Toyota Corolla that's never let me down!😇
I almost wanted a focus with manual transmission, but the rear seat is a little cramped compared to Civic or Corolla. I am only 5'-8" and my seat adjustment left little leg room at the rear! I can imagine a 6 foot guy just pushed the seat all the way to the back leaving the rear seats with no leg room!
Ford supposedly fixed the DPS6 issues when they released the 2017 & 2018 Focus. They’re well made European engineered cars, IMO inspired from the late 90s Civic & Integra. They do get great gas mileage, I’ve put 110k on a 2014 DPS6, 60k on a swapped 2017 DPS6, & then wanted more power and fun so I swapped a complete Focus ST drivetrain.
yeah in 2017 they redesigned the TCM and changed the clutch material to handle heat better. At least that’s what the ford tech said
I own one 2014 lol I think I might be the luckier owner. It feels weird it jigglr from time to time not all the time. Hopefully no need to change the clutch anytime soon. 9 years and 4mo in.
I got a 2015 Fiesta with the Automatic dual clutch. Can't really complain about it.
Nice
I had a 2014 Ford Fusion and that was in the shop about 7 × s.
It became a horrible money pit.
5 recalls and twice they had to keep the car overnight.
There is a good reason why Ford doesn't make cars anymore, they forgot how to do it. 🤨
i have a 2012 ford focus sel the last owner put a new motor and trans in in and honestly yea i shifts weird but the like you said it has never left me stranded even with the body having 225 thousand miles in it and trans and engine having about 140 thousand on it
I have owned a 2017 for over 5 years with no problems whatsoever. Granted, the transmission sometimes acts up but runs very nicely and has plenty of pep. Very economical. Before this car, I had a 2001 VW Jetta with a 5 manual. On a certain road trip I regularly made, I used to average around 30 mpg on the Jetta, I now average around 37 MPG. Both cars weight around the same, and both have a 2.0 liter engine, but the Jetta had only 115 bhp vs. the Focus' 160 bhp.
2017 that's why, I have a 2016 with 68k, tranmission slipping 1-2-3, three dealership runs, I've never been offered a buy back, all they'll do is reset the learning tables, on the last trip they finally put a new tcm and update and it shifts better than it did. I drove a 2017 focus non hatchback and oh my God the difference in shift speed is insane.
Hi Scotty, you prompted me to right this because I guess you did not have many of this type of tranny come your way. If I think what you were talking about in the video for a double clutch, in Europe is called robotized Transmission. Its like you said a normal standard tr. but the shifting is done by a robot. The robot is two electrical motors, one is shifting only up shift, one is shifting only down. I have a Honda 2006 Civic MK8 with this type of tr. drive it 2 years now. Actually, I think is best of both worlds, classic manual tr. in regards to mechanics, at the same time automatic. These two motors do wear out but they are electrical, in Bulgaria, they are repairable for about $80 a piece, not a big deal then replaced by almost any mechanic, and the tr. by it self its a standard tr. with flywheel which is replaced by any mechanic almost. So, really there are many mechanics that can work on them. FYI. By the look at the tr. lever it looks like fully auto to me. Maybe this does not apply to this ford but, anyway the above is true. Thank you.
Its like my Fiesta only I have the 5 speed. I just brought flex seal to coat the in inside of hood and trunk to eliminate noise, and putting weather stripping on the doors to reduce wind noise. Funny, you mentioned the wind noise.
Wow having to put extra parts on a car due to crap design , sell it already lol
My 2021 Hyundai sonata has the dual clutch transmission. And yes I do know what he’s talking about the car shifts vary wired just like you mentioned in the video it is hunting for gears. I feel it I’ve taken it into Hyundai and they have reset the actuators inside the transmission I guess that’s what they said because it still does it but one thing that I have noticed that it did stop doing after a while is it would slip in mind you this is a brand new car but it’s a good thing I have 100,000 mile 10 year warranty and 60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper
I had one of those, TCM blew at 97k miles. Got it fixed under warranty and sold it.
Almost bought one of these a while ago. Was scared off because of the transmission issues. I currently drive a V6 Honda Accord Coupe, and while it's not a DCT, I constantly have that annoying issue where it hunts for gears, and constantly clunks between 5 and 6 when driving in traffic.
How many miles on your honda ? My v6 accord shifts like that too
104,000 miles. Transmission is still working properly as far as I can tell. Just a bad design. It's a 2017 V6 Accord Coupe Touring.
Issue speeds are at around 30mph and between 40 and 45. When in traffic, it will keep trying to get into gear 5 or 6, and constantly downshift every time I let up on the gas pedal slightly or touch the brakes. I sometimes have to use sport mode/paddle shifters in slow traffic so it doesn't keep trying to seek between gears.
My wifes 2012 TCM broke down a month after the “10 year/150k” warranty expired at 128k miles. Ford wouldn’t cover any part to repair. 3 months and $1200 later finally picked it up and the battery was dead and needed replaced
Hey Scotty, Is the 2017 Ford Escape S with the 2.5L and the 6speed automatic any good?
Thanks.
our 2012 needed the transmission work three times. Repaired twice for free. third cost us..loved the look, quality, handling etc....had to get rid of it though. I would get the manual but never available.
Honestly you get used to the transmission. If you shift it into sport like I do often it’s fun because it feels like a real manual transmission
Yep just drive it harder, it works better and is more fun.
Yea keep telling yourself that pos you drive is fine lmao
My problem on 2012 SEL was, the seals failed and trans fluid leaked into the clutch plates.
They're currently working on my parents 2013 clutch, hoping the dealer knows what they're doing, it wasn't covered for that year even though it's less than 80k miles
Best commuter car I've ever owned was a 2008 Ford Focus I bought new. Drove it 90 miles a day round-trip back and forth to work. Minimal maintenance, replaced belts, tensioner, spark plugs, oil changes, brakes, and tires.
I drove it for 239,000 miles then gave it away to my sister in law. It had a 5 speed 4cyl manual and still on original clutch. She's got almost 275k miles on it now and has only replaced a motor mount.
Or you used the manual mode, it’s was a blast to drive.
Great video... We're in the process of buying one of these for my daughter. (75k miles 2018). It's throwing a "Shift Fork ""B"" Position Circuit Range/Performance" code that - from what I understand - is a pretty simple fix. Other than that, it drives and shifts fine... My QUESTION is: If the tranny should fail, will Ford still replace the clutch, if you're not the original owner? (Probably a dumb question, I know. But I'm not familiar with these processes). Thanks in advance!
My 2012 Volvo S60T4 with Ford's Sigma 1.6 Ecoboost engine and MPS6 transmission has the same error as per the scanner and according to the local techs it's a total loss. How did you came ahead with your error?
i have a 2014 focus with 90,000 miles on it. sometimes its not bad, but other times, mostly when the transmission gets to normal operating temperature there is a noticeable shutter when transitioning from first to second gear. plus the acceleration is painfully slow, i mean its almost like the incredible hulk is pushing on the front of the car preventing it from going any faster is how bad it is. it works for the most part so i have not brought it back to the dealer yet but i was smart enough to purchase a warranty on it at least. i am wondering if they will fix the problem or tell me to wait until the transmission completely fails before they do anything about it. what should i do
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I had a 2014 with automatic, good engine, but horrible transmission, it constantly shuttered and was fixed twice but then it came back, eventually it failed and cost 4K to fix it at150k Miles
I'm actually on the lookout for a manual focus from this era. These DCTs cratered the value of them - automatic or not.
Same here I had an automatic one and it was a pos transmission wise. I'd like to buy a manual version now for an extra car.
I notice that Ford has rough shifting transmissions like in this video with Scotty saying it jiggles. I have a 2013 ford explorer with the 6 speed transmission and it has a rough shift through pretty much all the gears but I’ve had no problems with it.
My guess they fixed the transmissions and then resold them at a higher price. Just a guess tho.
Those dual clutch Ford's were sold on auction to crappy used car dealers in Puerto Rico. There's no lemon law in the island. That's why I take the public bus over there.
exactly why a tacoma isnt my dream truck. i got one of lease, the gear hunting was non-stop. people thought i was messing around.
Hi I bought 200 c class 67000 in cluck automatically gearbox in town drivering in 2nd to 3rd some times is just banging change harshly what u thinking is rang plz
Thanks
I had to buy one in a pinch last year it was a 2014 for my son going back to college, there were no other used cars in my area with under 110,000 miles. This had 62k and was in great shape, the sales person told me about it, at the time she told me it was getting a new transmission installed at the Ford dealer. Not so lucky she then told me it was getting a computer reset. we have it now for 6 months and so far so good. I have changed the oil which they told me they changed - I don't think so it was so old and dirty looking. I paid 8100 for it which i thought was high for such a troubled vehicle but I was stuck. It gets about 30 miles a gallon, and one thing my son can't stand it the direction of the windshield wipers, why don't engineers leave things alone. I am a Toyota guy, but forget getting one in the price range I had for my son.
In Europe Ford doesn’t really have it’s good reputation anymore, especially with the 1.0 EcoBoost because of their wet timing belt. Lots of workshops here replacing a lot of these engines. It’s a real shame they did this because they are good handling cars.
I thought the party was over after the fiesta..most were found on road dead.
I've got a 2015 Ford Fiesta with over 230,000miles on the DPS6 Transmission. Shifts bad, moves slow, no reverse and gets hot but it still drives!😮
I bought one in 2012. It was super and we loved it. Averaged close to 40 mpg. My pal bought one the same year. He put about 100,000 miles on it and Ford offered him an extended factory warranty which he bought. I told him they must be confident in the durability to offer him a bumper to bumper on a car with near 100K. Well, wouldn't you know. He had it for another 2 years under extended warranty and it never broke. Turns out he wasted his money. He replaced it with a new Focus in 2017. They do not shift like an automatic. They shift like a manual because they are a geared transmission with no torgue converter. That being said, they shift automatically much better than most people I've redden with who drive a standard. The VW's I drove with dual clutch transmission shifted the same way.
Reddening is also blushing.
I've got a 2012. I just put it in standard gear and do the shifting myself.. a lot smoother shifts that way if you know what you're doing.
Where can I find the class action lawsuit? And until when are they covered? My friend has a 2014 focus with 89,000 miles and the cars transmission is on its last legs
I drive a dual clutch car. It does take getting used to and you do kinda have to learn how the car wants to be driven but once you do, I think it drives great. They're also more fun and really made to be driven in sport mode. 😂
I agree, the car kind of drives you?? If that makes sense at all 😂 ease up on the gas and it freaks out, but honestly besides that and the shudder between 1st and 2nd, it's been running smooth for me!
To make it not shudder , put it in sport mode , really easy to do.
how do you put it in sport mode?