AudioControl makes SUBWOOFERS now?! Spike Series In-depth look!

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • AudioControl has long been known in the car audio world for their factory system upgrade gear. Now AudioControl is expanding their product line even more and applying their audio expertise in subwoofers and speakers! One of these new lines is the "Spike" subwoofer lineup which includes an 8", 10" and 12" subwoofer. Let’s dive in and take an in depth look at the Spike Series!
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  • @CarAudioFabrication
    @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +4

    Thanks for tuning in everyone! See the box build plan starting here: czcams.com/video/wa2z5RhTyX4/video.html

  • @steelresilience
    @steelresilience Před 11 měsíci +25

    I'm glad companies like AudioControl and Audiofrog are making their own audio components.

    • @quadvr
      @quadvr Před 11 měsíci +1

      I sometimes wonder if AudioControl is a break off company from JL Audio -- the speaker frame, the box design for the speakers, and the amps look similar to the old school slash amps (JL Audio 300/1, 300/4, 500/1, and 1000/1).

    • @phuckhughe
      @phuckhughe Před 11 měsíci +2

      Audio control is part of the JBL family. This brand goes wayyyyy back and has several off brands. infinity, Carver, KLw, etc they all have that ok hand symbol. Even the car audio brands they have under there family line has the ok symbol. Zapco! Phoenix Gold! Look it up! These subs are not made by audio control but by the parent company I'm sure ..

    • @AudioControlCar
      @AudioControlCar Před 10 měsíci

      This is absolutely not the case. Although JBL and other Harmon brands are great, we are in no way associated or related, never have been. AudioControl was founded by Greg Mackie back in the 70's, and was privately owned up until last year, when we became a part of the AAMP Global family. (Stinger, PAC, Echomaster, Phoenix Gold, Connects2, and M2M in Motion.) Just thought we would set the record straight! The little "ok" symbol you are referring to, is actually the "made in the USA" logo from years past. @@phuckhughe

    • @drrckhamilton
      @drrckhamilton Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@phuckhughe
      I'm pretty sure that symbol simply means Made in USA. I have quite a few old school amps, including MMATS with the same symbol .

    • @user-tu6fq1yd8i
      @user-tu6fq1yd8i Před 4 měsíci

      There not they by them from a build shoo like every other company and put there logo on them so does jl audio

  • @kaboom4679
    @kaboom4679 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Very nice of Audio Control , making sure the quality of my hole is not degraded .
    These guys truly think of everything .

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527
    @jacobrzeszewski6527 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I thought it was crazy when I went to their site and saw Audiocontrol had speakers. I'm very tempted to put together a three way component set from them. They even have a special 3 way crossover just for that application!

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +9

      Yeah the crossovers are unique for sure! Looking to get my hands on those next and hopefully get you guys another overview video

    • @rowankeltizar5961
      @rowankeltizar5961 Před 10 měsíci

      @@CarAudioFabrication that would be awesome! They are currently out of stock but should be available later in the year. I'm also interested in their 10" underseat pre built enclosure.

  • @koreanjeep
    @koreanjeep Před 11 měsíci +6

    These looks good, and a great review. Love the 10" box in the video.. and really looking forward to the 4x 12 build! Keep up the good work 😁

  • @Kess30
    @Kess30 Před 11 měsíci

    Can’t wait for that build!!

  • @williamprice4269
    @williamprice4269 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Yes I’d love to see them make a Spike 15” sub.

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle Před 11 měsíci +2

    That's really nice with the screws - it's the little things you didn't know you wanted till you see it.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I was so happy to see those in there, especially with the nice little write up on they are used.

  • @christiandshatto7765
    @christiandshatto7765 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I've had mine almost a week now,( 2Spike 12s), in a gately box, and they sound really good so far👍🏼👍🏼( I also like they include grills, nut inserts, etc)

    • @gemininimeg
      @gemininimeg Před 11 měsíci +1

      I use to tell people to get a Gately box, but not any more. Gately is way over priced, BigD showed both Gately and a cheaper box with a 2023 SoloX. Both pretty much had the same results. It goes to show that a more spendy box isn't better. Also don't let Gately know your putting in threaded nuts into one of there box's, he gets mad and doesn't like that.

    • @AudioControlCar
      @AudioControlCar Před 10 měsíci +1

      Glad to hear it! We love to hear that the little details we included, like the grille and nutserts don't go unnoticed.

    • @francisap1632
      @francisap1632 Před měsícem

      Are those 4 ohms or 2 ohms? What amp did you use to drive those bad boys?

  • @Domaudeo
    @Domaudeo Před 11 měsíci +5

    As this is a mid-priced sub series, they could benefit of being sold as a loaded enclosure, just like JL does, that is perfect for a guy like me with not much talent for precision woodworking.

  • @nathanielsheomangal9794
    @nathanielsheomangal9794 Před 11 měsíci

    I have NO problem buying these😎🔊🔊🔊

  • @jasx1485
    @jasx1485 Před 11 měsíci +6

    These and the new speakers look great 👍 I like the new crossover set up they have for the speakers

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yes those are unique for sure! Looking forward to hopefully doing an overview on this soon as well. Thanks for dropping a comment.

    • @AudioControlCar
      @AudioControlCar Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the kind words! We spent a lot of time and energy designing these new speakers and subwoofers to be not only great sounding, but easy to install as well. We truly try to keep the professional and DIY installer in mind

  • @jasanmontgomery5232
    @jasanmontgomery5232 Před 11 měsíci

    Love the subs and the channel brother

  • @nickensonjeune5262
    @nickensonjeune5262 Před 8 měsíci

    Looking forward to see the new 6.5 subwoofer, good job audio control.

  • @williamprice4269
    @williamprice4269 Před 11 měsíci

    I was surprised when I went onto their website and I saw that they are making speakers. Interesting.

  • @jordanfromit5998
    @jordanfromit5998 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Can you please do a video on "Speaker break in"? I hear so many myths and legends

  • @johannjohann6523
    @johannjohann6523 Před 7 měsíci

    Sweet protective grill cover that looks good too with a rubber not plastic surround. Hopefully they will include dual voice coils, but really single voice coils are fine for most people. Audio control does offer some nice equipment and a broad range of equipment now with good features and build quality.

  • @1Pueblito
    @1Pueblito Před 11 měsíci

    Great vid!

  • @geringgardener9760
    @geringgardener9760 Před 11 měsíci

    I can not wait to see the 4 AC 12” sub build

  • @mirabalmedia
    @mirabalmedia Před 11 měsíci +2

    AudioControl got brought out on April 1, 2022, by AAMP Global in Clearwater, Florida. AAMP Global in the auto brand also owns Stinger and now AudioControl. AAMP Global also owns PAC, Connects2, EchoMaster, M2M in Motion, and iSimple.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +8

      Yes, a huge benefit for the brand. Tons more engineers ( located here in the USA by the way) and resources to improve the products. They've already combined their LC product line with PAC Audio integration harnesses that will make projects far more easy. This is a huge boost to AudioControl

  • @kswis
    @kswis Před 11 měsíci +1

    Now all I need to see is how much power it'll really take. Just out of curiosity. I am stoked to see how these do

  • @matts88yj
    @matts88yj Před 11 měsíci +2

    Audio Control speakers, subwoofer(s) and amplifiers may be going in my Jeep restoration project. It's an open top Jeep so as long as they can play loud and clean, I'll be very happy. I'd love to see Audio Control add an ACM-1.500 or 1.600. I think it would compliment the 10's and 12's very nicely when amplifier space is at a premium.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I thought the same! Although for now you could get an LC-1.800 and run at 4 ohms for 500 watts RMS. Go easy on the Amp and your electrical and still a fairly compact amplifier 👍

  • @nathanwall9160
    @nathanwall9160 Před 11 měsíci

    I’m curious to see the shallow mounts❤

  • @veelink6345
    @veelink6345 Před 10 měsíci

    I have always used audio control epicenters in my installs and I decided to do a full build using their amps and speakers, I did an odd build because I bought a D 6.1200 amp first to run a 3 way front stage before deciding to add more amps, so now the build consists of a DM-810, one d 6.1200, one LC 6.1200, and two LC 1.1500 running focal 3 way active in the front and 2 way in the back with 2 extra channels on the LC 6.1200 and two JL 12w6 subs. at first it sounded terrible it took a lot of playing with the dsp to get it sounding good the basic setting just didn't cut it and I needed to get deeper into it but that said now it sounds awesome my only complaint is I have never had a system that the amps get so hot you literally will get burned if you touch them I don't have a inferred to check the temp but I will soon, I have only had this system installed for about 3 weeks now but I am concerned as to how long before one of the amps burn out, These things are hot I can't believe that they are not going into thermal protection being how hot they are getting and only after maybe 3 songs or 15-20 minutes of music at that. Hot is an understatement I mean these are hot hot what is weird is the 6 channels are hotter than the 1500s I'm running my subs on. I put a lot of time and money into this build so we will see how it goes, I have checked all my ohm loads inputs and outputs and voltages and they have good ventilation so we will see fingers crossed I didn't make a bad decision.

  • @mikestivers8302
    @mikestivers8302 Před 7 měsíci

    i am contemplating between 2 subs, since my space is limited..
    Skar VD-8 and AC SPK-8
    audio control has a few things i love about it, including: the supplied grill; that the surround is flush w/ the basket ring; shallow depth and decent x-max at 350w rms
    the Skar however has 50w more RMS power handling, more x-max and a shallow depth beating the AC by about 1/4"
    i have a 0.4 cubic foot sealed box, and the Skar "requires" 0.35^, while the AC "requires" 0.5^ respectively.
    skar is $80, while the AC is $200
    the skar's huge foam surround makes shallow spaces a bit more of a struggle, i believe with the flush, smaller surround on the AC i could fit behind my tacoma seat WITHOUT removing the plastic panel on the rear seat..
    just some thoughts, perhaps i'll just flip a coin..

  • @AlexanderGarcia-mp3lb
    @AlexanderGarcia-mp3lb Před 11 měsíci

    I see so many build of sub box and tuning but i don't see how to tune 2,3 or 4 way speakers no get me wrong i love you videos they are so great but i never see video about 2,3or 4 way speakers with out damage them thank you for you great work

  • @heavychevy4616
    @heavychevy4616 Před 11 měsíci

    thank u sir

  • @CherrySquishee
    @CherrySquishee Před 11 měsíci

    Love the look, but the price point caught my eye. Are these built here in the states?

  • @christittle1131
    @christittle1131 Před 2 měsíci

    Man if there was 15’s I would order today

  • @BeetleJuice00
    @BeetleJuice00 Před 5 měsíci

    Can you show how to install threaded inserts

  • @heribertogomez5191
    @heribertogomez5191 Před 11 měsíci

    I have JBL headphone I can hear the differences in sound, is potent

  • @bradleybauder9043
    @bradleybauder9043 Před 8 měsíci +1

    How does this sound in comparison to a jl? I truly am curious witch one to buy. I'm looking at the c3 lineup for my f150 with there compact 10" subwoofer but after seeing these I am curious how they stack up.

  • @jamieosborne331
    @jamieosborne331 Před 11 měsíci

    Hey huge fan of the channel!! I was wondering if you could make a video on tire well subwoofers like the kenwood or JL basshub. I’m curious on the design and comparison to other slim options that can be hidden 🙏

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Good idea for the future, thanks for watching!

    • @jamieosborne331
      @jamieosborne331 Před 11 měsíci

      @@CarAudioFabrication your welcome ;) iv got my Millie pro front splits and rears going in next week in my t roc R full active with the kenwood wellsub. But iv been tossing up if I should get the Audison 10inch passive sub. Just weighing up the cost to performance ratio 😄

  • @robertdecrock4038
    @robertdecrock4038 Před 11 měsíci

    It is good ❤

  • @Jodyjoe8816
    @Jodyjoe8816 Před 11 měsíci

    What's the difference sound wise if both the 4 ohm and 2 ohm 8 inch have the same rms rating??

  • @robvazquez1424
    @robvazquez1424 Před 4 měsíci

    Marc would you go with Focal Slatefiber PS165SF or the AQ PNW - 65CS2 ❓Using a D6-1200 and a LC1-800 for my Rocford sub P3 should i go with the 12" AQ❓

  • @rubenfernandez2424
    @rubenfernandez2424 Před 11 měsíci

    I have a LC-4.800 4 channel for my six 6 1/2 and four tweeters what amp would you recommend for two of them 10” inch subs??

  • @cracklingice
    @cracklingice Před 11 měsíci

    AudioControl. Are these new subwoofers suitable for those new fangled methods of air fry or sous vide?

  • @mobiledawg2206
    @mobiledawg2206 Před 11 měsíci

    The price point is comparable I’m just hoping the performance aligns with what the price is.

  • @starfashion4286
    @starfashion4286 Před 11 měsíci

    How many box size?

  • @raybeats9141
    @raybeats9141 Před 7 měsíci

    Where can I find the box ?

  • @ismaelgarcia8243
    @ismaelgarcia8243 Před 10 měsíci

    Trying to find reviews on what the SQ on these is like before I buy. Anybody have first hand experience on how they sound in-car?

  • @ericestrada-of6cx
    @ericestrada-of6cx Před 11 měsíci

    Helllo how do i get big bass in a chevy s10 im used to haveing big boxes in my suv but now i have this truck pleas help

  • @stevecri123
    @stevecri123 Před 5 měsíci

    Does the enclosure for the jeep gladiator hit hard i currently have 2 savard 6.5 and its not enough punch

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 5 měsíci

      I have not personally heard one yet, but I have heard good things from people I trust.

  • @josephlozano9603
    @josephlozano9603 Před 21 dnem

    Can this be air free?

  • @robertdecrock4038
    @robertdecrock4038 Před 11 měsíci

    Push and pull base.

  • @TheChrisplayer94
    @TheChrisplayer94 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Nice video as always!
    Which one do you think is better for low, loud and precise overall bass in a 20l closed box?
    The new 10" from Audio Control or maybe a JL 10W1V3?
    Or did you know a better one?
    I love to play Trance, Hardstyle and Progressive House 👍

    • @quadvr
      @quadvr Před 11 měsíci +1

      JL Audio 10W1V3 in a closed box.

    • @jaydawg116
      @jaydawg116 Před 11 měsíci +1

      20l is a sweet spot for sealed 10s. Many different drivers can flourish in that amount of air space. What is your budget both in price and wattage?

    • @RickyNaylor
      @RickyNaylor Před 11 měsíci +1

      Not only that, the American bass has 15mm of linear excursion and 48mm of mechanical excursion. JL audio is junk these days. All you're paying for is the name. I'd put my hawk tens against some w1 15's anyday. They would annihilate them. I have mine on a ti2000.1 phoneix gold amp also. They take it no problem all day long. It made 3300 watts dynamic on the amp Dyno. No JL will ever take that kinda power.

    • @TheChrisplayer94
      @TheChrisplayer94 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jaydawg116 i have a 450 Watt rms Class D Amp in my Focus and my budget is around 350-400€

    • @TheChrisplayer94
      @TheChrisplayer94 Před 11 měsíci

      @@RickyNaylor sounds nice but is the hawk for sealed enclosures?
      It has pretty low qts.. I think it is for ported boxes only

  • @reddragun09
    @reddragun09 Před 11 měsíci

    Hi Mark, what is the name of the Drum solo you like to test subs to?

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci +2

      It's called "Improvisation" and is on Focal Test CD 2 I believe

  • @arnoldsalazar5851
    @arnoldsalazar5851 Před 11 měsíci

    Spike 6.5 subwoofer please!!!!

  • @Sir_Scrumpalicious
    @Sir_Scrumpalicious Před 11 měsíci

    Recommended beverage of choice is the best spec listed. lol

  • @thegrizzlyfamily1374
    @thegrizzlyfamily1374 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This is straight up car audio porn: threaded inserts, amp recommendations, grills, my god…Nirvana

  • @NinaBabyTV
    @NinaBabyTV Před 11 měsíci

    Squad I need help.
    I have the lc-1.800 paired w a single 10 that does 750RMS.
    She performs well, but I believe she can do better. Can a higher powered amp assist?

    • @veelink6345
      @veelink6345 Před 10 měsíci

      Question how hot is your amp getting after about 3 songs can you touch it without getting burned? Mine are running hot as hell. As for dyno it looks like the audio control amp are putting out rated watts actually more than rated so the power shouldn't be an issue unless you are not at the correct ohms but if you are then I would look into your enclosure size I build boxes and it don't take much air space at all to drastically change the output.

    • @NinaBabyTV
      @NinaBabyTV Před 10 měsíci

      @@veelink6345touching w out getting burned, yes.
      Are you using the same amp? I was just wondering if I went for a 1200 RMS AMP would it push my sub a bit more.
      Sadly, factory HU and i definitely need to use the option to restore some of the bass.

  • @waynelauster7362
    @waynelauster7362 Před 11 měsíci

    Do they make a shallow mount 8" I've got a 05 ford expedition that needs a shallow mount

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci

      The "Space" line currently has a 10 and 12. Shallow 8s are very uncommon.

    • @waynelauster7362
      @waynelauster7362 Před 11 měsíci

      @CarAudioFabrication which 8" will fit I've use planet audio in the stock location before with the stock Amp and it was OK for a extremely cheap sub but I wanted better

    • @phizzle24
      @phizzle24 Před 11 měsíci

      Have a look at Audiofrog GNS8 😉

  • @N7-alpha
    @N7-alpha Před 11 měsíci

    Shine a light up the pole vent see if the logo lights up ?

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  Před 11 měsíci

      I tried this, it does not, there is a seperate inner dust cap that prevents the light coming through

  • @sermac3246
    @sermac3246 Před 11 měsíci

    👍

  • @ADA513
    @ADA513 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I don't think bassheads will be purchasing these, but i'd love to see you do a spl video with four 12"s.

  • @keycommander971
    @keycommander971 Před 11 měsíci

    Just a quick question to u know how to make machines that can kill cancer cells apparently carnt remember the name of it but it’s supposed to be by sound or frequency 🤔

  • @qwerty9489
    @qwerty9489 Před 11 měsíci

    link some music to test a woofer

  • @ArtuMormar
    @ArtuMormar Před 11 měsíci

    Now they just missing a nice headunit (with CD player) xd

  • @arnoldsalazar5851
    @arnoldsalazar5851 Před 11 měsíci

    Audio control hit the Jack pot with the ease of subwoofer installation, and then the grille comes with…. Straight money!

  • @JonGotBass
    @JonGotBass Před 11 měsíci

    No no no ......I was on board until I heard the price!! That's insane!!! This is still an entry lvl, standard stamped basket, SVC woofer 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @TrevorTurkington
      @TrevorTurkington Před 11 měsíci

      I wouldn't buy a sub without a rubber surround either. The foam ones dry out and degrade.

  • @sholehkah5598
    @sholehkah5598 Před 8 měsíci

    I lake speaker Audio control. Want to order?

  • @hardcorebestnlrccarbuilder
    @hardcorebestnlrccarbuilder Před 11 měsíci

    I am more a vibe audio fan ore rockford fosgate i have at the moment a vibe box made for the vibe black air hex 12 inch
    A vibe amp 1000 rms
    And mij old trusty rockford p 1 in the bag

  • @UncPluck1374
    @UncPluck1374 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Not sure about those prices tho kinda high

  • @alansantiago941
    @alansantiago941 Před 5 měsíci

    Not a fan of the stamped steel basket

  • @82Beatz
    @82Beatz Před 11 měsíci +2

    $279 for a 700 watt 12....No thanks. There are plenty of 12-inch woofers that offer way better output and sound quality for cheaper. But I'm glad to see them doing their own thing. I hope they progress and become a main contender in the sub market.

  • @julesbruchez-theartofgrapp9646

    Foam surrounding nothing special. Have to go through the TS parameters to see if it’s a SPL or SQ woofer. Paper cone is okay basic though. Some manufacturers use paper cones because they are cheap others use it because they are light and the subs don’t have strong motors

  • @Cathul
    @Cathul Před 11 měsíci

    Wow.... the 12inch 4 Ohm version has a resonance frequency fs of around 40Hz and a QTS of around 0.7?
    To be honest... i probably wouldn't buy them as there are subs with way better specs.

  • @madjimms
    @madjimms Před 11 měsíci

    Not very impressed at the BL product for a $200+ subwoofer, i mean its only around 13? come on.

  • @FrankStPeter
    @FrankStPeter Před 11 měsíci

    For the money , I do not think There That good. They are mediocre. DC audio image dynamic. Audio dynamics All offer SQL. Subwoofers for the same or less price.,,, But they don't have the super sweet Nifty Grill,,,😂 If I wanted to pay too much money for subwoofers. That aren't that great. I get JL,, Thanks for the hard work and a good presentation though. Keep up the good work

    • @miguelaka9583
      @miguelaka9583 Před 10 měsíci

      Is the JL audio W3v3 Series better than these Audio Control Spike Series?

  • @skandaldimitrov1886
    @skandaldimitrov1886 Před 11 měsíci

    Respect ,but come on guys put more capital in these subwoofers , 25$ subs ... it's not about profits only :)

  • @dlloyd6300
    @dlloyd6300 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Stamped basket = cheap build

  • @samgreer8596
    @samgreer8596 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Never understood the whole insert thing. How many times do you need to remove a speaker or subwoofer once installed? Never? If for some inexplicable reason you need to remove and re-install your subwoofer 37 times until the holes in the wood box are shot, at that point you can drill them out and install inserts. And if you're a normal person who doesn't remove and re-install your sub 37 times, you never have to worry about it and never have to pay for inserts and machine screws.. Never used them, can't see a time I ever will.

    • @bgnPrinceton
      @bgnPrinceton Před 11 měsíci

      Not to mention the bigger hole required for the threaded inserts. Wish there was a wider lip on the woofer basket to get away from the cutout, but then that would require custom fab which would make these even more expensive.

    • @kjbad1
      @kjbad1 Před 11 měsíci

      I appreciate including the grill and inserts, these costs are often hidden in the actual cost of adding a sub to a system. I tend to swap out subs a lot depending on my needs at the time - when I don't need the trunk space for something else, I put the big ported box in the back. When I need to carry a lot or keep the gear out of sight, I switch to the sealed stealth box. When I get an idea or learn somthing new, I change things up - new amps, new subs, etc. I don't keep a lot of subs around - I give my kids my older subs when I upgrade, sometimes I keep my box and sometimes I get/build a new one. All that moving/removing would not be practical without threaded inserts.

    • @samgreer8596
      @samgreer8596 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kjbad1 1) I think you're the only person who does that. 2) You can't just swap subs as you must know each one has its own volume requirements and the hole patterns will not match up (one sub will have a slightly larger or smaller diameter than another so,,,,not buying it. Sorry.

    • @kjbad1
      @kjbad1 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@samgreer8596 1) I may be the only one. I get that. 2) Changes in volume, going sealed vs ported, and tuning requirements are great reasons to remove one sub and make adjustments for a different type of sub. I like to try new things without building a whole bunch of new boxes. I've had 8s from NVX, Incriminator, and Massive, and they all fit my threaded inserts in my 10 year old box with no modifcations to mounting surface. Every time I upgraded my 8s the new ones fit the inserts just fine. The only time I had to modify the mounting holes on my dual 12 ported box was when I went from Stereo Integrity SQL12s to DD SL612s, and I had to widen the sub openings anyway. Whether you buy it or not, I appreciate AudioControl offering extra hardware-most subs don't come with those unless you buy their box too.