PG Explains Why 2-Way Stars Are Built Different
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Idk if pg reads these, but if he does ay, I dont think ive seen another active player have such a high quality podcast/youtube channel, not to mention a good camera lmao. Mans can do it all💀
@@svensigrun5439why ?😂
@@1mrn797we
He’s also one of the top 4 most talented players of his generation. MVP level talent!
"Mans can do it all"
I am pretty sure he wasn't the one setting the camera and editting the video man :)
He did invest to good production though, props
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Klay Thompson being a two way player is part of why the Warriors have four rings. You need two way players to win at the highest level.
Let’s be real here, his defense only really played a part in one of those chips lol, the ones with KD they would’ve won regardless and last year he really didn’t defend well, shit was thanks to Wiggins and GPII
hes not anymore sadly
Yeah a true 2 way player this season…he was helping the lakers also 😂
@@nomongosinthaworldnot true at all cause James harden was going crazy this year
@@jahoncourtThey got outmatched by the raps, without KD they struggled if you really paid attention to all those games, raps were winning almost all quarters besides the games that they lost, also Klay played and he's just basically out for a game and a quarter in game 6
2 way players have amazing cardio. Imagine what a monster 1988 MJ was. Averaged 35 PPG AND won the Defensive player of the year. Like how does he do it every single game at both ends. Just mind blowing.
Also won the MVP that season.
he shoulda won dpoy in 87’ too .. he was unbelievable
The pace of play was much different back then. The game was so much slower so players were able to preserve their stamina throughout a game better. The talent level and athleticism also wasn’t close to what it is now so MJ stood out even more. Not saying that diminishes his ability defensively cuz he’d still be incredible today, just saying it was easier for him to average 35 and dominate defensively.
@@llkla4507don’t ever disrespect michael cooper like that again
@@moneymoves263 Wipe your mouth when you're done, he isn't god
I respect the PG's, Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan's, Khwai Leonard , Jimmy Butler's, Jrue Holiday , John Wall,, CP3, JKidd, Chauncey Billups, Scottie Pippen, Hakeem Olajuwon, KG, Tim Duncan, Wilt Chamberlain, etc. My favorite type players. All two way players.
Good list I think cp3 was underrated at d in his heyday… plus put AD and dwade on that list
Klay and D Wade
Most hall of famers/great players are two way players except luka,melo,harden,Steph etc
Lebron ?
@@AkeemGriffith-rq1wg he was never a two way player , never assigned to guard the best players at his Position or Close To his Position , Like a kobe , Kawhi etc For Multiple Seasons Lebron was only good on defense for like one season The regressed tremendously
Giannis Antetokounmpo is a great 2-way player and he deserves all the accolades and even more accolades today
Your just saying that because he’s African. Giannis is top 3 currently and Top 15 all time already. Your just talking to talk.
@@Ogzay202 can you mention a 2-way player currently better than Giannis?
@@chidichuks2853 Kawhi is a two time champion and sent Giannis home on his way to a ring. Giannis wins one more and he’s the 2 way goat. Kawhi is 2 time DPOY as well. Giannis does have those MVP’s.
@@Ogzay202 I agree with you
@@Ogzay202 top 3? Yeah top 3 and not 2 or 3
I wanna share an eye opening experience.
I use to play park ball for hours after an 8hr work day (construction) I use to run hard all game for 3 out of the 4 hours I played every weekday.
I joined a league and because people couldn’t make the game I became the primary defender and ran the point for 36 or 38 of the 40 minutes. I felt I had stamina and was going hard all game, after the game I felt good but…
The next day? I felt like crap, I walked like Jimmy butler in the finals for the whole day. My legs were so weak/dead from the day before. Everything i did was slow and I walked like a grandpa all day. The pain lasted for 3 days, the fact that nba players play 32-38 min a night and are ready for a game the next day or the day after is insane. I can’t imagine players who play 40+ a night on occasions
Props to you still bro
Buttt the difference is you work the next day. They have rest.. I am like you, I am a concrete finisher. But I love ball so I play 2-3 times a week after work for a few hours. Look up how many games John Stockton missed in his career. The players now just aren’t as invested in it anymore.
Imagine NFL players who are in the equivalent of 50 minor car accidents a night the amount of contact they go thru. They literally cant walk the next day
@@1776carpediembut they have to play back to backs and practice and lift weights so it’s still tough to recover from that
The D Wade shirt, man's showing respect to one of the best 2 way guards in history
“That’s your mistake P”
“No it’s not imma average 50 on ya”
Broooo😂
Much Love to PG these podcast are fire 🔥fan since Fresno days keep it up G🌬👌
I really have respect for PG’s opinion for 2 way players which is what I take pride in myself like he said he wants the smoke. All the the following players that do both: PG himself, Kawhi, Jimmy Butler, Jrue Holiday, Kobe, Giannis, D-Wade, MJ, KG, GP, LeBron, Hakeem, Kareem, etc. The most underrated in my opinion is Klay Thompson. Much love PG keep the podcast rolling. Really waiting to see you back on the court for the playoffs.
As a Dallas fan, I respect you for both understanding Luka but still setting the expectation higher.
Shows he knows the game
It’s sad that “two-way” player has become a widely used term. Growing up in the 90s, everybody was expected to be a good defender or at least show 100% effort defensively. Now it’s like some special thing when players play both ends. So now the norm is that, as long as you’re really good offensively, you can be less than mediocre or even a full out liability defensively. It’s sad where the league has come in that regard
Now it takes a lot to be a great defender. The rules have made it incredibly hard
It’s almost impossible to guard anyone 1 on 1 for a full game anymore. Players are too good and teams are too smart. I miss those days too but until hand checking and/or illegal defense returns, complicated zone defenses and switching will be the norm
I agree with both of you, I just ask for effort. Many of the top scorers have gone years without effort
@@jamaalgill2740 facts! Even lebron(my goat) stopped giving a fuck on defense, it irks my soul because I love 2 way players. Defense is 90% heart and effort
I agree with you, the league changed the way the nba plays and it trickled down to the game. I noticed it in the early 2000’s when folks would complain about how I played defense.
Lmaooooo @ 5:58 they made those faces like they believe they really can guard PG😭😭😭
100% undervalued. The physical toll of being 100% on defense an offense and being elite on both qualifies you as GOAT. The GOAT list should be different if you ask me considering this factor.
Jrue Holiday most underrated 2way player
And AD most gifted 2way player
Your half right
@@goodiegoodiegumdrops yeah the AD part was the right part.
@@artificialintelligence7988 just proved the OP correct about Jrue.
He’s overrated in my opinion
Jrue isn’t a 2 way player, he’s only a defensive player. He can’t hit a shot for the life of him
Paul George is the first one to tell you he swings both ways.😂
lol..
@@BG-mn6di ?
@@etx_jay ?
Man this pod is great 😂, I'm loving it
Defense is WILDLY underrated in NBA circles.
From fans.. but up to commentators and PLENTY of people with NBA Awards votes.. people don't even *understand* NBA defense, let alone value it. Defense is literally 50% of the game but all people focus on is offense. And not even OFFENSE really.. they just focus on scoring. Because real shit Draymond Green is also one of the best 2-way players of ALL TIME really.. but since he doesn't score well, people don't value him for what he's really worth either. It's really wild how little 90% of people who watch basketball understand the game at all.
Dray dropped 30 in the greatest nba game oat. He could score when he was asked to before Durant joined their squad
that’s why i have steph around 10 or 11 not top 5 all time. and he can’t top crack 5 because his defense wasn’t good enough throughout his career, it’s just how basketball works imo.
@@tannerw5011 another ridiculous misconception is that Steph has been bad on D. He's been about league average his entire career. MUCH better than most other top PGs.
People just don't watch games, so only saw him in the Finals when Bron would try to get switched on to him every play.
Defensively Steph >>>>>>> Russ, Dame, Kai
His only contemporary PG that was better than him defensively was Wall fr (and CP if you consider them contemporaries). Steph is a grossly underrated defender.
@@TizOnly1 you lost me when you said steph is a better defender than Russ, you ever seen steph block kd?
This just proves more casuals watching nba now. Cuz real fans LOVE GOOD DEFENCE
Watching good defense is such a treat!
Long time supporter. Love the the podcast Trece 🔥 real basketball fans love this insight. Way to go all out on both ends every night. Taking pride on D & being a bucket is tiring, I get it
That's the way you should always be... Be ready for the best competition
I think Kevin Durant and Nikola Jokic are rather underrated as defenders. KD is great at weakside rim protection, and at his physical prime guarded all the great wings from LeBron to Melo to Kobe. Jokic has great hands and timing for steals and deflections, is always in position, and somehow can protect the paint without ever fouling much.
Oh, and both can average 28 ppg on 50/40/90.
When you are able to stop a player from scoring 2-3 times in a game, you’re basically scoring 2-3 times.
Not really but a lil I guess
@@etx_jay kinda the point of the word “basically”😂
Love the information
Dennis was an offensive stud in college and was a very good triangle offense piece. It takes a smart offensive player to do that
Dwade T-shirt for the two way segment it’s nothing but respect one of the most elite slashing and shot blocking guards in nba history🔥
PG a champ on podcast
Jacky that dude that be like this on the answering machine 'yo yo yo isha boy j, ey im tied up right now...' with ja rule as his background song
Bro im a regular hooper who exercises daily and I run full court with the homies damn near everyday and Paul’s right, when u gotta do a lot on offense it’s tuff to go out there and do it all on offense and defense on a daily basis. It drains all of your energy. I’m on my 3rd day without picking up a ball for the first time in a year and I feel like a brand new man.
This Podcast is A-1 gotta luv PG
Seems like nba players respect great defenders more than fans or the media. Maybe because they actually have to score on them 😂
Shoutout to PG, he would’ve been an MVP if it wasn’t for that injury. The way he stayed elite after all these years is good.
I love that shit bro I want a good competitive match every time I play too. I’m not nba level obv but when I play I want to play against someone who’ll make me desperate to win and push myself so much that I’ll improve mid game
one of my favorite players all time is andre roberson. not great on offense at all, but man he could shut down other team's best wing player. he never got the credit he deserved as a pure defender. we need him back in the league, maybe with a more consistent 3
I see Giannis in the thumbnail and paul george explaining i clicked
Nba fans may not always care about defense but true basketball fans love elite 2 way players
I need that shirt PG!
People don't appreciate great 2 way players and how hard it actually is
Anyone know what shirt buddy in the blue hat wearing?
The NBA should throw in an occasional defensive highlight in their 10 min highlights of the game
Respectfully, the clippers need this man
5:56 😂😂
Brook Lopez too on that MIL squad at least in terms of bigs.
Fr
With all the switching that goes on how do you want to play defense when you can just call for a screen to get a easy switch. Defense is desire, if you can move laterally with a ball you can move your feet
My favorite types of players control the whole game, not just one aspect. Jimmy Butler, LeBron, Kevin Garnett, Hakeem, DWade. These dudes are pushing every advantage to the limit and doing whatever the game calls for.
2 way players win more chips. And stars who arent 2 way always need 2 way players as costars (curry, magic johnson, dirk, etc) and if you have two offensive minded stars and no great defenders around them, they wont win any rings. Ask dame and CJ and luka and kyrie or derozan and kyle lowry. Non 2 way players become liabilities that hurt their team and have to score godly numbers to compensate for their lack of defense. Curry wins zero rings if klay isnt a great defender. Curry would be getting abused with no relief, no one to cover for him. All his 3s would only keep the warriors close in games but not win em chips cause no matter how good of a scorer you are, youre gunna have a few off nights. But if you can lock up your opposition a bad shooting night wont hurt as much
This was a invalid opinion the two ways u talk about have two ways on the team lol and curry is a two way player u better watch those nba player interviews nba players say curry defense is underrated and he lead the league in steals twice didn’t he lol. He’s a two way play he plays defense he’s guarding kyrie and dame usually he’s just 6’3 with glass ankles he’s gotta injured countless times for playing defense. It’s just overshadowed by his scoring. Idk what world do u think this valuable klay Thompson has ever shutdown a star he makes role players work for it more and rotates well.
Micheal jordan the greatest two way player ever couldn’t win without Scottie the addition to Dennis both the team itself needs defense not jsut the star player lol
@@antiisolation4 I never fucking said only the star player. And you proved my point Scottie was also a 2 way player making them a duo of 2 way players thank you for proving me right
It's a question of cardio, and the real ones are the ones that are gifted to be able to run up and down the court on every fast break, play defense hard on the best man and be there for the offense.
This is why PG is my guy. I ver pay attention to them analysts take anyway
Nah this is actually entertaining 🤣 didn’t even know he had a podcast
Your mom knew
I respect 2 way players and as a fan you love the effort in those moments but you can be 2 way and have a defensive game plan that gives you some plays with less effort. Basketball like all sports is about the math. If I bust my ass holding you to 2-7 in a quarter but I go 2-7 and lack energy on offense, that ball could have gone to someone else on some of those plays. At the end of the day your team needs to outscore the other and the best way is to get open looks and draw fouls. I would much rather have an open shot from my 4th option than a contested one from my 1st. This is why some teams win in big spots and others hope Trae gets calls or you have no shot.
I think real fans of the game enjoy and respect both ends of the game equally. It's only until recently that people could specialize offensively and sacrifice defense.
The disrespect towards Embiid and AD, the only 2-way big men in the league.
Man look I always and will always have the highest respect for pg I watched the growth spurt the growth with playing behind Danny granger to watching you become the man with the pacers and the slander u get is asinine to me any player who they considered the best would LOVE to have you on their team
‘You don’t shot well’ that was personel
5:52 LMFAOOO
“Hookah Dončić” 😂
what is a huka?
Can pg talk about his shoe deal? And confirm the rumors?
I love charges
Why does lebron get left out greatest 2way players ? He had multiple all first team if you take 2003-2016 hand downs he was a lock down defender and gave allot of effort
He has 5 selections if im not mistaken. Not enough when it comes to the greats who have 8+ . Greatest 2 way SF is Scottie Pippen or Kawhi who has two DPOYs. Bruce bowen has 8 all nba defensive selections straight. Jordan made 9 while being a leading scorer for all of those 9 as well as having Dpoy. Gary payton has 9. Kobe has 9 first team 3 2nd team. Tim duncan has 12 as well. KG has 12 with a DPOY. Giannis himself has 5 selections with a DPOY at the age of 28 and was snubbed this year. Literally too much other great two way players who were consistently 2 way players for almost a decade to take a 5 year stretch of lebron being the best SF defender.
@@AlexStayFly20he has 5 1st teams and 1 2nd team and he should’ve won a dpoy in 2013 im not saying he’s the greatest defender of all time but he definitely doesn’t get enough credit for his contributions on the other end
@@BackwoodDaeski513 no he shouldnt have.. marc gasol had better defensive metrics over him across the board. The stats are on the internet. Once again 6 years meanwhile there’s dudes up here with 8
@@AlexStayFly20 did you watch nba in 2013 ? Memphis at that time had a great defensive team he wasn’t even the best defender on his team 🤣🤣 mike Conley and Tony Allen made first team over the dpoy
@@BackwoodDaeski513 sure did which is why im saying what im saying. Let that almost dpoy go no one counts almost
imagine Celtics vs Clippers finals! both teams with 2 two way superstar players! Kawhi PG vs Tatum and JB!
As a mavs fan that Luka Shìt bs everyone should play defense to the best of they abilities (I can understand switching for a few plays to get you energy back)
Here is some reasons ways he had help
He played with Brunson who can facilitate and get his own shots
Dennis smith was decent but when Luka got drafted they started some ba
Last year when kp was on the team he’d be wide open for a 3 and Luka would hold the ball and not pass
Tim hardaway can create his own shots
Christian wood could create his own shots
Now we have jaden hardy and Kyrie that can
Spencer dinwiddie can get his own shot and create a little
Had Kemba for a few games but didn’t keep him
Trey Burke was able to get his own shot
Although Steph is not a two way player I respect him at the same level cause at least the man tries lmao
This is the only reason I always consider kwahi to be the best player in the game. . He's literally the best player in the game
Let's get back
Give me a great two way player over a great offensive player to start a team any day 🤝🏽
Agree you look at Boston where they all can defend no big wholes all pretty much +defenders in their entire 7 man
Yo is that ol’ boy from the movie ATL???
Yes lmao
Is that dude from ATL
If there was one player i could be itd be PG, he’s got it all, guys so smooth he’s got two girlfriends
In the today's league the dudes fucking run faster, bounce higher and are more talented than ever, it's just the "evolution" (thanks to science, specific training ecc) of the games, it's happening in every sport or in most of themes. Being a defensive player, besides the rules, is tougher then ever, and to do that on both of the hands of the floor on an elite level requires THE perfect body or close to it. Look what's happening to all the elite two-way players (AD, PG, Leonard...).
Giannis has that body
Lukas not that bad on def he stays in front of people pretty well
I watch highlights here and there. The nba ain't the same. I hate nba now, u see a lot of offensive guys lowering their heads and bumping people out the way. Can't even play defense anymore without getting ran over. Lebron was the guy I saw who basically used the most basically spotlighted that thing.
I love you PG y’all forgot to mention KD as an elite 2 way he’s the best offensively & is having an even better season defensively then he did in Golden State & offensively. He’s on that list
Facts KD is 2 way player
Iverson got highlights for steals
This guy saying “blame the hookah” lol Luka the guy drops 50+ ppg Triple doubles on yo fav teams 😂
Hookah doncic is crazy lmfao
Stop beating around Bush. Luka need to play some damn defense.
If Jokic can work himself into going from a bad defender to a semi-decent one, I don't see how Luka can't. He really just needs to work on it.
18th in steals this year buddy
Not everyone has the motor for it. Luka sure doesn't it lol
Imo offense is more important than defense. I understand that you need both to win but offense takes skill and IQ which comes from practice. Anyone can play defense if they give effort and effort is something that you can do automatically. I take a kid, noob, or someone who isn't physically gifted on my team yet I'm pretty sure they give effort and play defense much better than offense. In addition, you can hide bad defenders with team defense while it's rare to find a solution to hide offensive liabilities
SHOUT OUT JIMMY BUTLER 🗣🗣
I love this since my favourite players have always been 2-way players. Jrue, PG, Jimmy Buckets, Kawhi and even the goat MJ are guys I always used to look highlights of when I was younger.
Giannis does everything on defense while having one of the highest usage rates of all time on offense this season, and we see in the playoffs how bad that defense is without him
Luka has to find a way to improve on defense, and has to stop arguing with the refs every possession. I'm not hating either... he is an incredible player, and I want to see him hit his full potential. He's already amazing, and has the potential to be even better than his current level.
Luka ranked 18th in steals this year buddy
@@claudebradshaw1730Steals ≠ defense
@@noahamankwaah9802 right neither is rebounding lol
Paul my dude idk how the art of defense has gotten lost
Whats ducking smoke mean?
Left my boy LeBron out of that two-way conversation.
😅....no disrespect..but yall can't guard me!!
He wasn't playing defense when they had Smith . Luka is not defensive player
DSJ wasn’t taking any offensive responsibility off of him that’s the point. If DSJ scored 17+ with about 6-8 assists I’m sure Luka would have more energy to play defense.
But he probably never will excel defensively. He doesn’t have the lateral quickness or raw speed/strength but if he gives effort he can average on defense.
Hooka Doncic! 😂
Anthony Edwards the next top 2 way players
Shai is another one
You have to be a otherworldly offensive player + a cultural phenomenon to be considered a top 10 player of all time and not be an elite defensive player. Like curry and magic everyone else in the top 10-15 is a elite two way player in their prime.
PG just so you know Im an LA fitness hooper. and I never duck any smoke. honestly, playing pick up ball no one cares about passing or defense.
Bro tryna rizz up through the thumbnail
There’s only a handful of those guys now. PG is one, Giannis, Embiid, Butler, Tatum, Kawhi (when healthy). And that’s it.
U forgetting Holiday as well Brook Lopez
Wiggins
Put some respect on Mikal Bridges name. 27 ppg on 50/40/90 since he got to the Nets AND he’s still all-defense level
@@samweldon8104 yeah add him too but only a sample size. Let give him whole Showcase to evaluate him
@@samweldon8104 dude he's cool but its 26 pts on 47.5/ 37.5/ 89. yall stay cappin even when numbers are easily searchable. smh
It’s crazy how people in the comments still saying bron is a bad defender, he just be chillin on defense. He literally knows the entire playbook of your fav team
He should still work on his defense.
Is this the guy that use to do the skits
I don’t like the term 2-way stars. I just consider them real hoopers. The NBA has taken this offense only mindset too far. Just get out their and hoop. That’s why these young teams are taking over.
Ecclesiastes 7:19
Wisdom strengtheneth the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city.