#onlinedating #selfimprovement #masculinity A discussion around Bumble's decision to give up on it's chief principle that women should make the first move.
So starting conversations is a "burden" now. Didn't know so many women had such a difficult time when opening a conversation with just a 👋 or "hey" and expecting from a man to just take over from there lol
Starting a conversation is a burden. As a man, you know the trick is to cast a wide net. I’d send the same message to 100 girls and maybe get 20 replies back and go from there. 80% rejection is normal. Being rejected a lot is normal. The guy who gets the biscuit doesn’t care lol
The annoying thing is women constantly complain about how men approach them online, then when they have to make the first move they are completely useless at it, the irony is pretty astounding And your right dating apps just do not work for most men, however they work for just about every woman !
Friend of mine changed his luck completely on dating apps, by having a photo taken in the seat of a private plane and putting his job down as "pilot", he actually works as an aircraft mechanic at a small airstrip in the west midlands. This guy is mid 50's, not attractive or handsome, but he was matching with hundreds every month, from 18 years old to late 50's. It's not about looks, it's about fulfilling desirable stereotypes.......... The other one that works is Doctor and Firefighter, although the fireman thing isn't quite as appealing now as it was 20 years ago.
Good call out on meeting in the wild. Women like the validation, and hate rejection. Since they're all going after the same small % of guys online, they are going to get some rejection/non-response if they have to initiate. Their too used to having their cake and eating it too.
I have been on Bumble since 2020. I felt I would avoid the unsolicited pics and unwanted messages. It has worked well for me. I have met some fantastic guys I wouldn’t have crossed paths with IRL. I also do my best to be approachable in public. Make eye contact and smile. I have yet to be approached…. I meet more guys online that lead to dates than in real world. So what’s a girl to do?
Well the problem is that Women cant seem to get a consensus going about what they want. Meeting in public is now a risk for men since they don't want to be creepy, and most men are invisible online. Bumbles system to me seems like a happy medium but it seems like women aren't happy with it. I'm going to guess that its because women don't generally like getting rejected after making the "first move".
@@raularango3539 that’s a pretty broad brush stroke. Women are individuals just as men are. Lesson’s leaned = growth which may appear as indecision. I have learned not to take things personally. I’m not for everyone and everyone is not for me. I will continue to be friendly despite how others respond to me. We can get bitter or we can do better.
@LadyCamilleE Hey, that's much appreciated. I am not a fan of the apps. My strengths are meeting people in person, so I'm hoping women start moving away from the apps.
I genuinely didn't know at the time either. I was talking impromptu without a script. "Providing an alternative" might have been a better way to put it.
I think its because its resentment that stems from all the stuff women would have to put up with, feeling unsafe in public, r@ped, groped, harrassed, etc. And so now forcing women to make the first move feels to them to be ridiculous.
Yeah I think Bumble's initial aim was to try to empower women by letting them choose to make the first move. But it wasn't a power that women really wanted. Or were very good at. As many women on Tinder wrote "don't just say hey", that was the standard opener for almost all women on Bumble.
So starting conversations is a "burden" now.
Didn't know so many women had such a difficult time when opening a conversation with just a 👋 or "hey" and expecting from a man to just take over from there lol
Woman are lazy people
Starting a conversation is a burden. As a man, you know the trick is to cast a wide net. I’d send the same message to 100 girls and maybe get 20 replies back and go from there. 80% rejection is normal. Being rejected a lot is normal. The guy who gets the biscuit doesn’t care lol
The annoying thing is women constantly complain about how men approach them online, then when they have to make the first move they are completely useless at it, the irony is pretty astounding
And your right dating apps just do not work for most men, however they work for just about every woman !
women ☕
For sex yes but I doubt it works for them for serious relationships.
Friend of mine changed his luck completely on dating apps, by having a photo taken in the seat of a private plane and putting his job down as "pilot", he actually works as an aircraft mechanic at a small airstrip in the west midlands. This guy is mid 50's, not attractive or handsome, but he was matching with hundreds every month, from 18 years old to late 50's.
It's not about looks, it's about fulfilling desirable stereotypes.......... The other one that works is Doctor and Firefighter, although the fireman thing isn't quite as appealing now as it was 20 years ago.
While I don't condone lying, status has a huge effect. I plan to do a video on it sometime.
No, I don't think I will. I quit. I'm done. To be honest I was never really someone they wanted to begin with. So why bother?
Good call out on meeting in the wild. Women like the validation, and hate rejection. Since they're all going after the same small % of guys online, they are going to get some rejection/non-response if they have to initiate. Their too used to having their cake and eating it too.
Yah but what if end result is the same as in apps
Apps aren't much like real life anymore than videogames are.
I have been on Bumble since 2020. I felt I would avoid the unsolicited pics and unwanted messages. It has worked well for me. I have met some fantastic guys I wouldn’t have crossed paths with IRL. I also do my best to be approachable in public. Make eye contact and smile. I have yet to be approached…. I meet more guys online that lead to dates than in real world. So what’s a girl to do?
Well the problem is that Women cant seem to get a consensus going about what they want. Meeting in public is now a risk for men since they don't want to be creepy, and most men are invisible online. Bumbles system to me seems like a happy medium but it seems like women aren't happy with it. I'm going to guess that its because women don't generally like getting rejected after making the "first move".
@@raularango3539 that’s a pretty broad brush stroke. Women are individuals just as men are. Lesson’s leaned = growth which may appear as indecision. I have learned not to take things personally. I’m not for everyone and everyone is not for me. I will continue to be friendly despite how others respond to me. We can get bitter or we can do better.
@LadyCamilleE Hey, that's much appreciated. I am not a fan of the apps. My strengths are meeting people in person, so I'm hoping women start moving away from the apps.
Rescue is the wrong word
What's correct word in your opinion
@@Frodo1000000genuinely don’t know. But Rescue isn’t good for anyone. Totally agree with the act though
I genuinely didn't know at the time either. I was talking impromptu without a script. "Providing an alternative" might have been a better way to put it.
Your experience isn't limited to Bumble. Talk to your gay friends about Grindr.
I think its because its resentment that stems from all the stuff women would have to put up with, feeling unsafe in public, r@ped, groped, harrassed, etc. And so now forcing women to make the first move feels to them to be ridiculous.
Forcing? There's a million other dating apps they can use, all of which depend on the tradition of the man making the first move.
Yeah I think Bumble's initial aim was to try to empower women by letting them choose to make the first move. But it wasn't a power that women really wanted. Or were very good at. As many women on Tinder wrote "don't just say hey", that was the standard opener for almost all women on Bumble.
Lmao this 🤡