5 TOOL FINISHING METHODS / 💥Negative rake scraper vs standard scraper💥😉

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • In this video I'll show what is important about scrapers and how simple tool prezentation against wood can give you totally different results.....
    Hope you'll enjoy this and get something out of it....
    #woodturning #tools #scrapers #recordpower #wood #bowl #finishing #woodlathe #howto

Komentáře • 141

  • @Cozzmann
    @Cozzmann Před 3 měsíci +1

    My name is Jim.. I'm nearly 86 and have just gotten serious about turning in the last 5 years. I find your videos immensely informative and have helped my turning a great deal. These how to use with tools are particularly useful but everything you have done I have found very interesting. Keep up the good work.

  • @alexcraig8543
    @alexcraig8543 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Man, I love these tool specific videos! They're incredibly informative.

  • @davegibson2478
    @davegibson2478 Před 5 měsíci

    Many thanks Tomislav, this is the best scraping video I have seen. Much appreciated.

  • @pjseiber2774
    @pjseiber2774 Před rokem +5

    This is fantastic teaching. Thank you so very much. Please do more videos like this. 🙃👍

  • @peg4692
    @peg4692 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Tomislav this was a great video, Richard explained this to me many years ago and you have given an excellent demonstration using different tools, well done congratulations.🎉

  • @jtbrock9067
    @jtbrock9067 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for taking your shop time to make this video. Your explanations are concise and very informative! Much appreciated!!

  • @johnjames7736
    @johnjames7736 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very informative vedio. Thank you.

  • @dennisgoring4727
    @dennisgoring4727 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for your informational commentary on this subject. Helps no matter how much time you have spent turning there is always some thing to learn. Thanks!!

  • @jackthompson5092
    @jackthompson5092 Před rokem +1

    Great lesson Tomislav.

  • @frankyork1900
    @frankyork1900 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love seeing a master craftsman at work. Love your explanations on how different tools are best used and the different results obtained buy different methods. Very clear explanations, 💕your work. Take care.

  • @terryyancy3957
    @terryyancy3957 Před rokem +1

    Really enjoyed the video Tomislav! You do good work! I like the way you explain your technique.

  • @elgardog
    @elgardog Před rokem +1

    Outstanding demonstration, Thank you, Dave UK

  • @stephenjenkins1102
    @stephenjenkins1102 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Love your work. You have a very straightforward easy to follow style, easy to understand and very informative.

  • @richbulak7145
    @richbulak7145 Před rokem +1

    Very well done video Tomislav. I'm gonna need to add a scraper to my quiver (new tool for the toolbox). Thank You!

  • @alanneel2749
    @alanneel2749 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Excellent demo. I’ve been told that neg rate works really well on end grain in the bottom of a box.

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před 8 měsíci

      Thank you, well it does but also standard scraper also works great.... negative rake is maybe little more frendly and less learning curve but in some situations you can not get straight wall as two bevels sometimes push the scraper away for desired line.... But both options are good and it comes down to personal preference 😉☺️

  • @docpoppi2852
    @docpoppi2852 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this. It was a huge contribution for me and my work.

  • @Zircon10
    @Zircon10 Před rokem +4

    Just superb! Thanks for sharing knowledge that must have taken years to gain. We get to see it condensed in 40 minutes. Such a huge bargain for the small amount of time the viewer must invest. 👍👍👍

  • @davidanderson5767
    @davidanderson5767 Před rokem

    Am first time owner and lathe user. I so greatly appreciate technique videos like this one. Definitely a skill tool. Thank you.

  • @jean-louishoules5198
    @jean-louishoules5198 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank you Tom for wht is perhaps te best video I saw about choice an use of scrapers.😉👍

  • @0BAMiiN
    @0BAMiiN Před rokem +4

    Thanks for the video! Nicely done and well illustrated!
    I'm looking forward to the scraper videos, mostly on how to use them on the inside of a bowl. I feel like it's even more important to have a smooth finish on the inside as it's way easier to sand (and cut) the outside of a bowl.

  • @zenletter
    @zenletter Před rokem +1

    Yes I like this kind of video. Technique demos help me most. Like to see this scraping on concave shape.

  • @MikeHolton
    @MikeHolton Před rokem +3

    Hi Tom, GREAT video with so much information. So glad you made this and shared it. Al the best, Mike

  • @bazdickens
    @bazdickens Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very informative liked it

  • @rogerwoods1351
    @rogerwoods1351 Před rokem +1

    great demo and explanation .... thanks for taking the time

  • @scottstubberud1137
    @scottstubberud1137 Před rokem +4

    Newest subscriber! Thanks for this video. One of the most misunderstood subjects in turning explained extremely well. The fact that you also corroborate with Richard Raffan, Sam Angelo, and Mike Peace puts you in a rare group in my book. I know now why you are part of that group! Excellent content and delivery.

  • @liveoak4124
    @liveoak4124 Před rokem +1

    Thank you, all explained with great clarity

  • @DancingFox6
    @DancingFox6 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I learn so much from your videos. Thank you! I would love to see a video of yours showing these same kinds of smoothing on the INSIDE of the bowl. If you’ve already made one, I’ll try to find it.

  • @LouisBarry-wc4qv
    @LouisBarry-wc4qv Před rokem +1

    This the best Demonstration/Lesson covering scraping on the net! 👍

  • @alanchristensen1901
    @alanchristensen1901 Před rokem +1

    Excellent presentation…demonstration of how shavings come off with different tools and orientation while lathe wasn’t spinning was very helpful for this beginner!

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thank you, glad you liked it ☺️ stay tuned for next video where I'll try to explain my plans for videos and you might find it helpfull...

  • @carlylemiller4735
    @carlylemiller4735 Před rokem +2

    This was an excellent tutorial. Your teaching style works well for a beginner like myself. Keep it coming!

  • @garyconway439
    @garyconway439 Před 20 dny +1

    Beautiful

  • @glennkramer7370
    @glennkramer7370 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Excellent demonstration and tutorial. The best I have seen for final tool finishing! Well planned, executed and extremely clear. I always look forward to your next video. Thanks so much!

  • @jahrap6733
    @jahrap6733 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nicely done, very instructive, cheers!!!

  • @jimbrock8928
    @jimbrock8928 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for the demo you explained the difference very well

  • @clydeschuyler
    @clydeschuyler Před rokem +1

    Great information friend. The epitome of a light touch.

  • @markporter4442
    @markporter4442 Před rokem +1

    Outstanding video, I swap and change when I’m finishing but good to see the comparison for different methods.

  • @randycosgrove3608
    @randycosgrove3608 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for an excellent presentation of options. And for stressing what I have the most difficulty with. The light touch. Got to work on that.

  • @terrypinkerton2702
    @terrypinkerton2702 Před rokem +1

    Just found your channel and I love the instructional videos especially the ones on scrapers. Can’t wait to try the techniques on my own lathe

  • @victorprimack2070
    @victorprimack2070 Před rokem +1

    Great and understandable explanation. Appreciated.

  • @CaltheScot
    @CaltheScot Před měsícem

    Excellent explanation. Thank you.

  • @emgiwoodworks
    @emgiwoodworks Před rokem +1

    Currently I don't posess a negative rake scraper and I've heard Richard say he also doesn't have one.
    For me that means I don't need one either. Still I have seen that I need many different scrapers of various shape.
    Working on that, you can make them yourself. 😎

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem +1

      Sure can , but maybe ones from let say sorby or henry taylor are a bit better.... And ready to go basicsly

  • @ShevillMathers
    @ShevillMathers Před rokem +1

    Excellent demonstration-I want to achieve a fine non sanded finish, and you have shown me exactly how to do this. Greetings from Tasmania Australia 👍😁🇦🇺🦘

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thank you ☺️glad you liked it and get something out of it ☺️

    • @ShevillMathers
      @ShevillMathers Před rokem +1

      @@tomislavtomasicwoodturning -Between Richard and the 4-way team, you have it all so well covered. As both Richard and yourself have a lifetime as one man production wood turners, if anywone has the best techniques, it has to be those wood turners doing it full time as a living, you have worked out speed of production of items of fine finished quality. I am grateful that you all take the time to share your knowledge and skills.

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      @@ShevillMathers thank you very much, for people like yourself we do it, that appriciate the time ... Richard is by far the most expirienced one, I'm only 32years and been in woodworking and woodturning for 17 years,mostly working for other woodworking companies, last 4 years full time woodturner for my self.... So there is a long way for life time production but I'll get there☺️☺️ let there be just health and the rest will follow.... Thank you once again for support 👍

  • @PaddyDoesasia-bj3bb
    @PaddyDoesasia-bj3bb Před 4 měsíci +1

    Excellent video, i love you channel, thank you👍

  • @surfcoastwoodcraft
    @surfcoastwoodcraft Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this - really helpful!

  • @danderson2930
    @danderson2930 Před rokem +2

    Loved it. Thanks for taking the time and explain how each tool works. I would greatly appreciate a chance to see how you use the scrapper on the inside of a bowl.

  • @gregs5744
    @gregs5744 Před rokem +1

    Great video and love the technique videos. I would appreciate a focus on getting clean cuts at different angles in the bottom of a bowl or box. Options to a bottom of bowl gouge. You can certainly see you’re a Ruffin protégée and you do him proud.

  • @patv6897
    @patv6897 Před rokem +1

    Merci pour cette vidéo bien réalisée, très intéressante enrichissante et instructive : vous demandiez de vous dire si on apprécie ce genre de vidéo :
    ma réponse est mille fois oui !
    Pour ma part, je serais très intéressé par des vidéos soit comparatives, soit où l'on fait un grand tour sur les différentes façons d'utiliser un ou des outils (ou les deux) et les résultats correspondants, les conseils et risques éventuels, l'incidence des tailles, l'utilisation qui en est faite par les "dits puristes".. et non puristes 😊 etc..
    Il est toujours très intéressant de voir l'approche méthodique et comparative que vous proposez : cela fait "réviser les fondamentaux" et permet aussi parfois de mieux comprendre, voire de valider (ou de contrer) des habitudes que l'on a prises au fil du temps en se demandant -même si elles fonctionnent très bien pour soi- si on est dans une "bonne façon de procéder" ou pas.
    Votre vidéo m'a permis de "faire le point" sur l'utilisation des racloirs en position inclinée ainsi que l'utilisation des planes (tellement diabolisées) en tant que racloir en l'inclinant ou pas. : je me demandais parfois pourquoi on voit si peu de tourneurs le pratiquer et encore moins en parler. Je me demandais aussi parfois à ce sujet si je n'étais pas un "déviant des bonnes pratiques" 😂
    C'est d'ailleurs un peu pareil pour les différentes utilisations des grains d'orge ou les bédanes quoiqu'un peu plus abordés et utilisés sans doute parce qu'ils impressionnent moins et sont assez incontournables.
    Bref encore un grand merci.
    Patrick

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Patrick ,thank you very much for watching and support what I do, I'm glad you liked it and there are many many ideas for videos that may answer your questions..... I'll be telling about new series in my next video so please watch it when I release it and give me your feedback..... Thank you very much once again for support 👍

  • @northernhumidor5615
    @northernhumidor5615 Před rokem +1

    Excellent tutorial

  • @glennconstable3789
    @glennconstable3789 Před rokem +1

    Great videos and awesome accurate info!

  • @samirf2522
    @samirf2522 Před rokem

    Excellent and detailed explanation. And this is what I discovered too

  • @walter67435
    @walter67435 Před rokem +1

    This has been a big help in terms of a thing I can remember seeing when I'm sharpening gouges and struggling with torn grain. I'd like to know what people think about getting a bur off the grinder running it in reverse. It was my intention to have a grinder in reverse with two sisal wheels for sharpening skew chisels and woodcarving gouges, but because I dropped my second grinder (the one turning the correct direction) and bent the shaft badly, I ended up with an aluminum oxide wheel on the reverse grinder, and have been using it to sharpen scrapers. The sparks do fly the wrong way of course. Perhaps there are other reasons not to do this? It does leave a bur.
    Also, here's an idea: Grinders are crap. There will always be a ton of wobble, I've seen youtuber machinists go to ridiculous lengths and still not get them to run true. What about setting up a mini lathe like WEN LA3421 ($209 on amazon) to run grinding wheels?

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching and support what I do 🤗, my idea behind this is that burr is raised due to grindind metal of, a by product... So direction is not that important..... Even if you hone scraper you will still raised a burr .... I have seen woodturning store that have some of the sharpening systems to use directly on the lathe,so if you like that approch go for it ... I didn't try it so can't tell you much about it..... Now regards grinders, mine is due to replace but even as a rubish one when it does spull up it does run true enough to be able to sharpen and I use oxside white whell which you need to dress as well..... Hope that helpes, it my view on it at least 😅

    • @walter67435
      @walter67435 Před rokem

      @@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Well I'm not hearing "running grinder in reverse is something we were told never to do because safety" so that's encouraging :)

  • @WhoGnu08
    @WhoGnu08 Před rokem +1

    Yes, please make a video on using scrapers inside a bowl. This one was excellent!

  • @deanbrown9876
    @deanbrown9876 Před rokem +1

    I’m been turning for 5 months and this really helped me improve my shearing cuts.
    Realized I was too much pressure.

  • @berniesr
    @berniesr Před rokem +1

    A great and interesting video. Its always interesting to see how different people approach turning.

  • @ConfusionWood
    @ConfusionWood Před rokem +1

    Great!

  • @paulotarsocampinho7637
    @paulotarsocampinho7637 Před rokem +1

    my dear friend, I understand everything you say and want to demonstrate, but let me add one more detail,... put the tool support at an angle of 90 degrees in relation to the tool, and if there is no vibration the results will be even better and you don't even need to use abrasives,... but then we use them anyway... keep up the good work

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thank you Paulo, I usually put tool rest to most comftoble position, but good suggestion.... Thank you for watching 🤗

  • @jonnyslathecrafts
    @jonnyslathecrafts Před 8 měsíci +1

    Very educational. I'd live to see the same for the inside.

  • @thefaulenzer677
    @thefaulenzer677 Před rokem +2

    Thank you very much for the Video! Even though I was going in with quit some knowledge already, it was an inspiration to try out some different cutting methods on my own and have fun with it. I wanted to mention that you could also use a skew on side grain peaces to cut or even slice the end grain with a rubbing (or touching) bevel. Not an easy nor handy thing, but you could try that cutting method :) it would work best on shapes like your first demonstration peace and can leave the best finishes of all!

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thank you very much 🤗 thanks for suggestion,I have tried that tehnique but I personally find it more difficult to do, but these methods specially standard scraper can give me easier and faster answer, us woodturners are a bit lazy so easiest method is the first one....😉

  • @Pipejawood-Woodturning
    @Pipejawood-Woodturning Před rokem +1

    Very very great video. I will like to see, how you use flat scrapper in the inside of the bowl. I will have to make it one and try this tehnick

  • @brucemanning7827
    @brucemanning7827 Před rokem

    thank you, really get a lot of info from your teachings

  • @chipito13
    @chipito13 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

  • @jimswift7228
    @jimswift7228 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for a very useful and informative video.

  • @christopherharrison6724
    @christopherharrison6724 Před 16 dny +1

    This is why carbide tools are not scrapers they have a cutting edge.Only need to hold the carbide at the right angle ,you cannot put a burr on a carbide tool.

  • @E-Glide
    @E-Glide Před rokem +1

    Excellent video. And yes, please do the same for the inside of a bowl

  • @markjupina178
    @markjupina178 Před rokem +1

    Great informative video! Do you ever see a need for sanding sealer? Thanks.

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Mark, I personally dont use or find a need for sanding sealer.... Shellac is one that I might use if I play with alkohol based dyes and to prevent bleeding colors.... That is only time I might use one.... Hope that helpes😉

  • @heatherandroberttudor172

    Very nice can you tell us the height of your tool rest on all the tools thanks Robert

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching, I'll try next time to say where the tool is in relation to the height 👍 thank you for suggestion

  • @elgardog
    @elgardog Před rokem +1

    :)

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 Před rokem +1

    You presented some good information but this video ran way too long. I must admit I bailed out at about the 20 minute mark. In the beginning your demo of the gouges was essentially the same. The demonstration of shear scraping is essentially shear cutting or shear slicing. Also I think that demonstrating using a cone affects the result as the wood presented to the tool changes as the diameter of the work piece changes. Even though I disagree with some of your methods, thank you for sharing.🙂🙂

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem

      Thank you for watching.... Each turner has its ways and that is the beauty, this is from 3 differents master turners from which I learned..... And as I'm not good with names of different type cuts, every begginer will be able to see just from the shavings he produce what the surface feels and looks.... We can agree that there is multiple ways to drive a car, important thing is that we all get to destination....😉

    • @thefaulenzer677
      @thefaulenzer677 Před rokem +2

      Could you explain what you would do in order to get a smooth finish?
      I agree with you saying that the wood on a cone changes. The surface speed that changes and the wood as such can vary aswell. But I think Tomislav did a good job with demonstrating the cuts. Cherry is particulary good in this instance, because it can react really precisely to the cuting edge and therefore show the physics behind turning.
      I do actaully prefer longer and slower videos. If its too slow, you can always skip through it. Just change the skip time to 5sec (10sec should be default) for each time you press the arrow buttons or double tap on mobile.

  • @mikek47
    @mikek47 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for the demonstration. You are a very good teacher and your examples were spot on. Some of the ideas like sheer scraping with a gouge always confused me... now I get it. Also, your English is very good.

  • @karlkoch320
    @karlkoch320 Před rokem +1

    Thanks!

    • @tomislavtomasicwoodturning
      @tomislavtomasicwoodturning  Před rokem +1

      Sir, thank YOU very much for this.... I'm very gratefull ☺️

    • @karlkoch320
      @karlkoch320 Před rokem

      @@tomislavtomasicwoodturning You clearly put a lot of time and thought into this video. I learned several new things. Thank you!