Well sensible sadly has very little to do with the obsession that is trumpet playing. I just try to offer my thoughts and hope they help or atleast provoke more thought. Best, Jon
Jon, another important aspect, which I hope you cover before your next medically induced coma,is Arban's complete pedagogy of sphincter command, control and modulation. It was very evidently employed throughout this valuable presentation and your thoughts, deep and penetrating as they are, can shed light into this too often neglected but vital aspect of brass playing.
Lol... ah yes complex as always. Paul that is a very advance study to be sure. Thankfully modern medicine has given us some chemical enhancement to make control much more manageable. I higly recomend that when any player is engaged in this study and finds themselves loosing control. Take a short brake and take an imodium wait a few moments and returne to the study with renewed confidence and control. Best, Jon
Mr. Jon, ive been playing trumpet for over 7 years now, and I have trouble keeping my throat open when i get to Bb under high c and up, and my sound just taps out after D above high c. I think about keeping it open all the time, i use pedal tones in moderation like on your "hi kids over doing it" video comment section, but i can't get past a certain point. I have a deep passion and appreciation for the trumpet and would very much appreciate the help.
Without seeing and hearing what you are doing I am shooting in the dark so... I will shoot in several safe directions. Try a slight jaw forward movement. Nothing big just a slight motion to help support the chops. You might try flattening the chin to achieve a similar effect. Do not pull the horn in harder this becomes counter productive very quickly. Also flex you mid section more for this register. Your abs play a big roll in creating air support. Finally tongue position is key and the most difficult to explain or describe. This is where I find the tip of the tongue placed at the top of the bottom teeth and slightly pushed forward in a curled position activates air support and supports the bottom lip. Again this is the most difficult to describe. Never do things to the extreme, that hurt or cause the sound to suffer. I am not sure if you have seen this video. Some things in this video might help. czcams.com/video/4XmrI5yvmTw/video.html&lc=z22lupcqtvvos1jwt04t1aokgjpar5dfl3bzgrojly4wbk0h00410 Best, Jon
It is not vague as much as it is simply difficult to pin point problems via text. I hope some of my ramblings help. Best, Jon oh thanks for watching :)
WOW! I can't tell you how much this has helped. Nailed my problem with getting a good sound right on the head. Pardon my typing I'm coming back to playing after being off a few months to recover from a stroke. You have great information and I can't thank you enough for this. One question; you said about a trumpet's natural place for notes, is this what they mean by "slotting"? Thanks again for this!
Yes this is slotting. Each note has a center where the frequency resonates the loudest. This is because overtone alignment reinforces the frequency or pictch as we call it. The horn has these pitch centers or slots for each note. The slot is typically our perception of how eazy it is to find the center of each pitch. The slots or pitch centers can be slightly out of tune according to an even tempered scale. This is where we as players engage our 1st & 3rd slides and on occasion alternate fingering. Doing this we do not force/lip the slot up or down we lower or raise the pitch to correct for intonation. In this way we are able to retain resonance and slotting. I recently spent some time recovering from flat lining and a damaged heart. I like things to be as easy as possible. Efficiency is the key to this goal. Best, Jon
Being ill is no fun, I'm so glad to see you are recovered well. Your videos are great work and I hope this doesn't offend you but may God watch over you and protect you.
wow great video! speaking of pintching the sound and relaxing, how do i practice SOFT playing low to high without pintching the lips too much??? i wonder if its even possible. help!
In the Bach C trumpet world; the 229 with a 25H leadpipe is the preferred orchestral player instrument of choice. It plays big and allows the player to keep up with the orchestra/other brass. The intonation is not as good as other C trumpets thus many conversions offered for the 229. It does allow you to put the notes where you want them. If you are going to be an orchestral trumpet player this probably is the horn for you. The 239 with the 25C leadpipe plays more like a Bb and has a bit smaller sound good for chamber and church work. The 239 with a 25A pipe basically are in the middle. Yamaha C trumpets play well and are relatively in tune. Plenty of players have them and they work well in a variety of situations. The Shires 4F is also a relatively popular C trumpet that should work in a variety of situations. The Stomvi 1/27 Copper bell is a popular model in parts of Europe. I know a couple of folks that have that horn and they think the world of it. As with any horn play it and see if it agrees with you and you with it. Best, Jon
THE MASTER RETURNS
AT LAST.......Somebody talking sensibly about the Trumpet. Thank Heaven You're back!
Well sensible sadly has very little to do with the obsession that is trumpet playing. I just try to offer my thoughts and hope they help or atleast provoke more thought. Best, Jon
Great stuff as always, glad to see you back.
He's baaaaaack!!!
Welcome back my brother
Oh my... security! Bro it is your inspiration that brought me out of my slumber. Text me thoughts and ideas and I will work on them. Love you brother!
Jon, another important aspect, which I hope you cover before your next medically induced coma,is Arban's complete pedagogy of sphincter command, control and modulation. It was very evidently employed throughout this valuable presentation and your thoughts, deep and penetrating as they are, can shed light into this too often neglected but vital aspect of brass playing.
Lol... ah yes complex as always. Paul that is a very advance study to be sure. Thankfully modern medicine has given us some chemical enhancement to make control much more manageable. I higly recomend that when any player is engaged in this study and finds themselves loosing control. Take a short brake and take an imodium wait a few moments and returne to the study with renewed confidence and control. Best, Jon
Mr. Jon, ive been playing trumpet for over 7 years now, and I have trouble keeping my throat open when i get to Bb under high c and up, and my sound just taps out after D above high c. I think about keeping it open all the time, i use pedal tones in moderation like on your "hi kids over doing it" video comment section, but i can't get past a certain point. I have a deep passion and appreciation for the trumpet and would very much appreciate the help.
Without seeing and hearing what you are doing I am shooting in the dark so... I will shoot in several safe directions. Try a slight jaw forward movement. Nothing big just a slight motion to help support the chops. You might try flattening the chin to achieve a similar effect. Do not pull the horn in harder this becomes counter productive very quickly. Also flex you mid section more for this register. Your abs play a big roll in creating air support. Finally tongue position is key and the most difficult to explain or describe. This is where I find the tip of the tongue placed at the top of the bottom teeth and slightly pushed forward in a curled position activates air support and supports the bottom lip. Again this is the most difficult to describe. Never do things to the extreme, that hurt or cause the sound to suffer. I am not sure if you have seen this video. Some things in this video might help.
czcams.com/video/4XmrI5yvmTw/video.html&lc=z22lupcqtvvos1jwt04t1aokgjpar5dfl3bzgrojly4wbk0h00410
Best, Jon
Yes, i have seen that video. Ive seen all your videos actually. I do appreciate the help very much, and I apologize for my vague question
It is not vague as much as it is simply difficult to pin point problems via text. I hope some of my ramblings help. Best, Jon oh thanks for watching :)
WOW! I can't tell you how much this has helped. Nailed my problem with getting a good sound right on the head. Pardon my typing I'm coming back to playing after being off a few months to recover from a stroke. You have great information and I can't thank you enough for this. One question; you said about a trumpet's natural place for notes, is this what they mean by "slotting"?
Thanks again for this!
Yes this is slotting. Each note has a center where the frequency resonates the loudest. This is because overtone alignment reinforces the frequency or pictch as we call it. The horn has these pitch centers or slots for each note. The slot is typically our perception of how eazy it is to find the center of each pitch. The slots or pitch centers can be slightly out of tune according to an even tempered scale. This is where we as players engage our 1st & 3rd slides and on occasion alternate fingering. Doing this we do not force/lip the slot up or down we lower or raise the pitch to correct for intonation. In this way we are able to retain resonance and slotting. I recently spent some time recovering from flat lining and a damaged heart. I like things to be as easy as possible. Efficiency is the key to this goal. Best, Jon
Being ill is no fun, I'm so glad to see you are recovered well. Your videos are great work and I hope this doesn't offend you but may God watch over you and protect you.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your kind words and thoughts. Best, Jon
wow great video! speaking of pintching the sound and relaxing, how do i practice SOFT playing low to high without pintching the lips too much??? i wonder if its even possible. help!
will the world be able to go on?
Hey Jon, I'm in the market for a good C trumpet, do you have any recommendations?
In the Bach C trumpet world; the 229 with a 25H leadpipe is the preferred orchestral player instrument of choice. It plays big and allows the player to keep up with the orchestra/other brass. The intonation is not as good as other C trumpets thus many conversions offered for the 229. It does allow you to put the notes where you want them. If you are going to be an orchestral trumpet player this probably is the horn for you. The 239 with the 25C leadpipe plays more like a Bb and has a bit smaller sound good for chamber and church work. The 239 with a 25A pipe basically are in the middle. Yamaha C trumpets play well and are relatively in tune. Plenty of players have them and they work well in a variety of situations. The Shires 4F is also a relatively popular C trumpet that should work in a variety of situations. The Stomvi 1/27 Copper bell is a popular model in parts of Europe. I know a couple of folks that have that horn and they think the world of it. As with any horn play it and see if it agrees with you and you with it. Best, Jon
Thank you so much. Glad you're making more videos. Have a great day.