Displacement, the M45 supercharger is designed for a smaller engine so it moves a lower volume of air l, where as the M65 is for a larger capacity engine and as such is designed to move a larger volume of air.
M62 is easier to fit, but you would find the M65 would have more efficiency and produce lower intake temps, both would be ok for a K20 but it's more how much work do you want to do to make it fit, if that makes sense. 🙂
here in Brazil labor is cheap, I was thinking of importing one of the two through ali express, I was interested in the magnetic clutch of the m62, some friends said that I could adapt a button to turn the blower off and on whenever I wanted
Ah yes so you have the later M271 engine yours was the last of the supercharged engines as in 2009 I believe it was they switched to using a turbocharger on the M271. But yes your absolutely correct it will be the Eaton M65, the drain fill plug I believe to be on the front of the supercharger to the right of the pulley. To drain requires the old oil to be sucked out easier than removing the supercharger, from what Info I have found it's fully synthetic supercharger oil between 235-250ml. It is a good idea to change the oil of the charger as just like an engine over time they wear and swarf (tiny metal flakes) can build up ultimately accelerating wear changing the oil will slow this process down extending the life of the supercharger. Hope this helps 🙂👍
the M271 is a little more challenging to turn with parts, there are certain intake modifications that can be done, I believe there is a plastic silencer in the intake that can be removed with the addition of a cold air feed, a remap is the best option for 271 powered cars as later models ditched the supercharger in the M271 Evo around 2009 these engines switched to using a turbo charger, I think there is a pulley mod out there for the M65 but these engines are not so easy to work on with the position of the supercharger.
It does indeed look similar but Mercedes did change a fair but between the two, however we have never tried the alternator supercharger mount from a M111. You could make one fit and it has been done before I'll find the link but it requires a lot of fabrication. Obviously not a problem if your good with a welder but if not that makes it a challenge. So the answer to your question is yes you could but I strongly doubt it would be a bolt on of thing. It maybe possible that the supercharger mount from the m111 may fit but I've never seen on done like that so I'm doubtful.
@@M-oneeleven-M111 thank you so much for the reply! 😄 I've been searching through internet for such project but never found one. Yes there's a lot of m104 supercharger project, it's just not like what I'm planning. The reason I'm looking for bolting m111 charger is for oem look. Minor modifications is acceptable. So thanks again, I'll discuss this with my friend. See if he can source me the parts needed.
@@whitehornet90 I do have a M104 in storage along with 2 other M111.975 compressor engines so at some point I can check but I'm not near them at the moment. No problem I try to reply to everyone if I can obviously as the channels growing that's getting a bit of a challenge, but I will always do my best to help and advise. 😄
@@M-oneeleven-M111 I'll be more than happy if you can update me the answer. 😄 Wish you all the best in life bro 👍🏽 I subscribed to your channel as i found it nice and useful.
@@mlfactorywebentwicklung3174 M65 certainly a better choice being a more modern updated M62, it is more efficient and keeps the charged air temps lower. The M62 does like to become a bit of a heat pump at 0.6bar on a 2.3 so on a 2.6 with 2 more cylinder the M62 would be hard pressed, so the M65 is definitely a better choice out of those two, there are also the Audi V6 superchargers for the 3.0 engines. Have fun with your project buddy love to see what people create.
@@M-oneeleven-M111 Hello, i have setup the supercharger but i get 0.0 bar of boost. There are no leaks. I get 0.0 bar behind the throttle body and 1.2 bar of boost before the throttle body @3000rpm engine speed. So i googelt a lot. I found that the m65 is smaller then a m62. A m65 is a m45 - only in a other "case". So i need a m62 , right? Regards, Michael
Very true over here in the UK though when you modify a car and your between 25-32 insurance companies can charge you around £1000 or roughly 1200usd per year for your car insurance if you have done real engine mods I really dislike this country 🤣
@@M-oneeleven-M111 yeah ouch man that is tough. Also I am planning on making an SLK specific channel that I would begin using to comment on here and eventually upload content but I’m gonna work on some graphics and an animation intro. Once I’m done I’ll let you know and you can see if you’d like anything similar. Once again, always free of charge permanently for the m111 spirit guides themselves
@@SlimmehThanks man really appreciate that and that you would take the time to do that for us, the whole covid situation is taking a massive toll on what we are able to do here I want to get started on the built engine but I've got to wait a month for my ARP headbolts as they coming from the good ol' USA need them and a facelift engine to steal a head from
@@M-oneeleven-M111 yeah i feel that man if it weren’t for the break I took at the beginning Of the pandemic from work for family reasons I would probably have the car by now haha. And I am truly glad to help you guys any time. Y’all are doing so much for the community n asking for nothin in return
@@Slimmeh well we would just like to see more people realise the potential of these cars and engines have fun we would love to grow it into a business but we both don't have the finances to be able to do that yet or for the foreseeable future unless we hit lucky on something 🤣 we have never had much money but that's why we know what we know cause we have always fixed things from being kids that carried on into adulthood and thought us a lot
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Thanks for explaining looking for hours for vid like this👍👍👍
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Very helpful, thanks
I run a m65 in my twincharger, it's a m45 in different casing. Much smaller than a m62.
do you know, my friend, where is the bolt that we unscrew and I change or fill with oil in the supercharger??? to slk200 r170 2002?? Thank you
Perfect explaining and on point. As for the M45 Kompressor, what's it's difference from the m65?🤔
Displacement, the M45 supercharger is designed for a smaller engine so it moves a lower volume of air l, where as the M65 is for a larger capacity engine and as such is designed to move a larger volume of air.
@@M-oneeleven-M111 m65 is the same capacity as a m45. M62 is the next size larger.
I'm from Brazil and I'm in doubt between an m62 or m65 for my Civic si k20, which would be better?
M62 is easier to fit, but you would find the M65 would have more efficiency and produce lower intake temps, both would be ok for a K20 but it's more how much work do you want to do to make it fit, if that makes sense. 🙂
@@M-oneeleven-M111Thanks Bro
here in Brazil labor is cheap, I was thinking of importing one of the two through ali express, I was interested in the magnetic clutch of the m62, some friends said that I could adapt a button to turn the blower off and on whenever I wanted
Is there an oil change requirement on the Eaton M series? I have a Mercedes SLK R171 200 Kompressor 184 CV of 2008. Which model is it M65? Thanks
Ah yes so you have the later M271 engine yours was the last of the supercharged engines as in 2009 I believe it was they switched to using a turbocharger on the M271. But yes your absolutely correct it will be the Eaton M65, the drain fill plug I believe to be on the front of the supercharger to the right of the pulley. To drain requires the old oil to be sucked out easier than removing the supercharger, from what Info I have found it's fully synthetic supercharger oil between 235-250ml. It is a good idea to change the oil of the charger as just like an engine over time they wear and swarf (tiny metal flakes) can build up ultimately accelerating wear changing the oil will slow this process down extending the life of the supercharger. Hope this helps 🙂👍
@@M-oneeleven-M111 many thanks and kind regards 👍😁
I wanted to ask if you could tell me some supercharger upgrades for the w204 c180k
the M271 is a little more challenging to turn with parts, there are certain intake modifications that can be done, I believe there is a plastic silencer in the intake that can be removed with the addition of a cold air feed, a remap is the best option for 271 powered cars as later models ditched the supercharger in the M271 Evo around 2009 these engines switched to using a turbo charger, I think there is a pulley mod out there for the M65 but these engines are not so easy to work on with the position of the supercharger.
@@M-oneeleven-M111 thanks for the advice I sincerely appreciate it
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would it be possible to supercharge the M272 engine?
Can i install the m62 to m104 280 engine?
The engine looks quite similar to m111
It does indeed look similar but Mercedes did change a fair but between the two, however we have never tried the alternator supercharger mount from a M111.
You could make one fit and it has been done before I'll find the link but it requires a lot of fabrication. Obviously not a problem if your good with a welder but if not that makes it a challenge. So the answer to your question is yes you could but I strongly doubt it would be a bolt on of thing. It maybe possible that the supercharger mount from the m111 may fit but I've never seen on done like that so I'm doubtful.
@@M-oneeleven-M111 thank you so much for the reply! 😄
I've been searching through internet for such project but never found one. Yes there's a lot of m104 supercharger project, it's just not like what I'm planning. The reason I'm looking for bolting m111 charger is for oem look.
Minor modifications is acceptable.
So thanks again, I'll discuss this with my friend. See if he can source me the parts needed.
@@whitehornet90 I do have a M104 in storage along with 2 other M111.975 compressor engines so at some point I can check but I'm not near them at the moment.
No problem I try to reply to everyone if I can obviously as the channels growing that's getting a bit of a challenge, but I will always do my best to help and advise. 😄
@@M-oneeleven-M111 I'll be more than happy if you can update me the answer. 😄
Wish you all the best in life bro 👍🏽
I subscribed to your channel as i found it nice and useful.
hard No thats a 100kw supercharger and a 150kw engine
Hey mate, can you please tell me if i should use a m62/m65 or an m90 on a 2.6L V6 Engine with 150bhp stock? Regards, Michael
M62 or and M65 would work but it would be on the edge of its efficiency range, a M90 would work better in my opinion buddy
@@M-oneeleven-M111 Thanks buddy, i need only 0.5 bar (stock engine) so i will try it with the M65 :)
@@mlfactorywebentwicklung3174 M65 certainly a better choice being a more modern updated M62, it is more efficient and keeps the charged air temps lower. The M62 does like to become a bit of a heat pump at 0.6bar on a 2.3 so on a 2.6 with 2 more cylinder the M62 would be hard pressed, so the M65 is definitely a better choice out of those two, there are also the Audi V6 superchargers for the 3.0 engines. Have fun with your project buddy love to see what people create.
@@M-oneeleven-M111 Hello, i have setup the supercharger but i get 0.0 bar of boost. There are no leaks. I get 0.0 bar behind the throttle body and 1.2 bar of boost before the throttle body @3000rpm engine speed.
So i googelt a lot.
I found that the m65 is smaller then a m62.
A m65 is a m45 - only in a other "case".
So i need a m62 , right?
Regards, Michael
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So I'm guessing the m65 is better then?
Turbo lol can go make a cup of tea buy the time the power cuts in
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The correct answer is turbo charger ;)
Very true over here in the UK though when you modify a car and your between 25-32 insurance companies can charge you around £1000 or roughly 1200usd per year for your car insurance if you have done real engine mods I really dislike this country 🤣
@@M-oneeleven-M111 yeah ouch man that is tough. Also I am planning on making an SLK specific channel that I would begin using to comment on here and eventually upload content but I’m gonna work on some graphics and an animation intro. Once I’m done I’ll let you know and you can see if you’d like anything similar. Once again, always free of charge permanently for the m111 spirit guides themselves
@@SlimmehThanks man really appreciate that and that you would take the time to do that for us, the whole covid situation is taking a massive toll on what we are able to do here I want to get started on the built engine but I've got to wait a month for my ARP headbolts as they coming from the good ol' USA need them and a facelift engine to steal a head from
@@M-oneeleven-M111 yeah i feel that man if it weren’t for the break I took at the beginning Of the pandemic from work for family reasons I would probably have the car by now haha. And I am truly glad to help you guys any time. Y’all are doing so much for the community n asking for nothin in return
@@Slimmeh well we would just like to see more people realise the potential of these cars and engines have fun we would love to grow it into a business but we both don't have the finances to be able to do that yet or for the foreseeable future unless we hit lucky on something 🤣 we have never had much money but that's why we know what we know cause we have always fixed things from being kids that carried on into adulthood and thought us a lot