Homelander Vs Adam Smasher Is Almost Fair
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0:00 Homelander
1:57 Adam Smasher
4:01 fight
4:57 Thank you Guys - Zábava
So what you are telling me, is V has a solid chance at beating Homelander. Because V can solo Smasher.
Yep
Yes. But it boils down to "prep time" excuse.
And not in a direct fight. However that's only because we don't know the indirect limitations of Homelander. Maybe he's also immune to all toxins, electricity and so on. I mean, he can survive in vacuum. So even a carefully planned and prepared ambush against him can fail. The dude is implied to be immune to tactical nukes in the show and the comic "special bullets" are shown in first episode of the show and fail miserably against invisible guy.
@@TheArklyte Umm no he can't survive in the vacuum at least not show homelander and V doesn't need prep time all he needs is the right cyberwares and no he isn't immune to a nuke
@@XD-sc4ix 1)Stillwell directly says that there isn't a weapon on Earth that hasn't failed against him. He can take a nuke. Provide better argument if you think otherwise.
2)he tells Stan Edgar that he prefers to look at NYC from space.
Again, if your sources are better then conversations with two main people in Vought, who were responsible for developing, raising, leashing and trying to counter him, be my guest, provide sources.
A V fully specced in body can throw a person with implants like they were a ping pong ball so looking at it like that maybe is not that far fetched
The only problem i have is that you didn't mention Homelanders Hubris. Yes, he could just be any zoner from a fighting game, but with how many insults Adam spouts he would absolutely throw a fit and get into Adam's preferred range.
Homelander also didn't take advantage of his flight against Soldier Boy and Butcher. At least, nowhere near as much as he could've
@@alexbaribeault that is the main problem I have with a lot of power scaling channels.
Yes, technically, that's how powerful something is, but look at their personality, their style, their actions. Just because Goku can instantly become giga-god killer guy III does not mean that's his first form.
@@justv7536 Power-scallers do normally account for this stuff. For example, Sonic has lost so many VS matches just because he doesn't commonly use Chaos Control in character
@@alexbaribeault It was quite literally not accounted for in this very matchup we're commenting on.
Yeah. Power scalers fundamentally don’t understand what a fight would actually be like. Personality shows. Homelander will throw a tantrum because adam smasher will hurt his feefees, itll get close range.
It doesn’t matter that homelander has a lot of advantages, he is a manchild, and adam smasher is a cruel psychopath. You can lose to someone who is on paper not a huge threat if you’re scared or shocked or taken by surprise or otherwise not expecting the violence.
Something tells me Smasher has a, "backup", copy. No way Arasaka would let a warrior like Adam go to waste if somehow a assassin got him.
probably a construct like johnny, we know adam smasher has more then 1 of his bodies.
he does, but like, his brain is still in his cyborg body, the only thing biological left, even then, only partially. he has a biologically cloned body that he can move bodies with, getting his brain into it. apparently it looks like elvis from what i hear. but it means that you can infact kill him, as that back up body is more for cases of him going on vacation, undercover or his main body being too damaged and undergoing repair
I don't think Adam moves his brain, Adam has probably actually died multiple times over. The "Brain" is a donor with smashers Engram on it. No way they wouldn't future proof one of their greatest assets that would be incredibly easy to replicate. Also this allows smasher to have near infinite experience in combat
@@limpbalmtrue, but it completely takes away the revenge you get for Johnny and rogue, and if it goes against the story there's a good chance that while it might make the most sense, it's not necessarily canon
@@dommysprite3771at the end of cyberpunk, Johnnys girlfriend takes all the people out of mikoshi and then destroys it. That’s where they store engrams if I’m not mistaken.
The worst Adam can do is just say
“Who the fuck are you?”
Homelander throws a tantrum putting him at a disadvantage
Then Homelander says:
"I'm the upgrade"
Before wiping the floor with Smasher ass like he did with Soldier Boy and Butcher.
Being realistic, Homelander would get his ass handed to him for a few minutes, get pissy that Adam can travel it insanely fast speed with ridiculous reflexes, and then leave before he could actually focus.
@@ironladyerimuth *fly*
Smasher would probably say: "Don't matter how tough you are. Meat is still meat."
or even better "you look like a fuckable cut of meat"
I misread the title and thought this was Homelander vs Adam Sandler. Imagine my disappointment (Sandler > Homelander)
Adam Sandler's plot armor solos The Boys.
Adam Sandler pulls out the universal remote.
HomeSandler
Toll booth Willie vs Homelander that would be hilariously awesome
I love how you use more niche characters such as Smasher and Horrigan who definitely deserve to be in these "who would win" decisions.
Frank is such a great overpowered villian.
@@TyBoElbow-bq2rpwhen a villian is only beatable to progress the story you know you've made peak
I've seen this talked about and unfortunately frank has nothing on him, even just with what the video states nothing in the lore books or in fallout 2 shows any way of frank even keeping up with him at all.
Edit: but that is kinda what you get when you take an unstoppable force and an immovable object, the force just goes through it lol
@attededbrushthe7th268 Homelander should be able to beat both of them since unless you're a super human completely past his level it's gonna be impossible to kill him. In the comics Black Noir was his stronger more evil version and Homelander still had him completely destroyed after he killed him. He was alive through nothing but sheer insanity alone and most of his body was missing afterwards. Youre not killing homelander without paying with your life if he wants you dead
In older editions of the lore adam smasher can fly at those speeds. And even in the most recent game it was mentioned he can take specific add ons for his body. so if he was planning for a fight he could go grab that super sonic jet pack
Isn't it also the tabletop that he is just, as fast if not faster than a sandy in base too?
Like if slowed time can work on homelander I don't like his chances
@naryla9062 Sandy doesn't slow time, it just makes the user perceive time slower and move a lot faster. So yeah it probably would work against Homelander.
@@shaded3695 Not sure if you have but I have not read the boys comics but does homelander have any chemical attack resistances? because arasaka makes some serious toxins and plagues in weapon form so not sure if adam could use those to bipass the durability
@@wesleysylvester6444 Well, i'm not sure if it was stated that homelander had resistance to chemicals, so probably yeah?
@@wesleysylvester6444I have a flashback to the squirt gun wars.
Homelander: "I'm the world's greatest superhero"
V: "Ok Samurai I've got a world to burn then"
Everything V can do would bounce off of Homelander. He withstands nukes. V is an absolute Badass no doubt but Homelander turns V into paste.
I'll never stop shouting from the rooftops about how letting the player fight Smasher was a massive mistake CDPR made.
Dude is a literal monster. Gamifying his abilities and writing him to be beaten in a single encounter like they did destroyed any ability to make players connect the legend to the person. Even on the hardest difficulty he doesn't come close to his in-setting capabilities.
Keeping him as an unstoppable, indomitable boogeyman you need to circumvent rather than shoot to death would have been a much much cooler and lore-friendly way to represent him imho.
The amount of retconning or power creep that would be needed to ensure players don't feel inferior to V in any later titles is staggering.
they just needed to have him weakened in some way so it wouldnt feel like a clunky mess and instead would feel like you only stand a chance because hes weakened
I don't see why the last bit is a problem.
I don't think anybody minds if the next character is weaker than V. CDPR's stories are generally not a very "power fantasy" type of thing. Having a weaker character than V would absolutely work for a sequel.
Also, I think they just kinda wanted to show how powerful V was. Don't forget, the original creator of Cyberpunk, Mike Pondsmith, himself said that V is amongst the strongest solos in Night City. And imo, anything the original creator says is canon.
That I agree with.
Him in 2077 is such a contrast to Edgerunners, and I honestly dislike that V canonically solos him. (Some do it with fists only)
@@Flamme-Sanabi They just changed Smasher in the last update. He's much stronger now and has the powers from Edgerunners. And yes V can solo him. V is the best merc NC has ever seen and she/he is being supplied with Silverhands skills, memories and even cyberpsychosis if you wanna go by the lore. V is a monster too, and has another one in their head, one who hates Smasher's guts and has a 50+ year vendetta against him. There's no one better to finally put an end to the boogeyman.
Has never been convincing to me, but if it does for you, great.
Adam smasher with compound V is an extinction level event.
knowing Vaught, they would definetely try to juice him up
is there even enough flesh for them to boost
Agreed
Powerscaling Smasher. In the game Smasher survived the nuke in 2023 while he was in the epicenter of the blast, weapons in cyberpunk are way stronger than real life and Smasher was still young and weaker than 2077 Smasher.
Homelander also survived nuclear weapons, its hinted at in the show and is directly said in the comics. However it does depend on which type of nuclear weapon, if it was a small atomic weapon such as a Nuclear Mortar which is mostly in US hands and is called the "Davy Crocket" thats not real a feat to brag about especially with their power, even if it was any atomic bomb. However if it was a thermonuclear weapon at point blank range that means that Homelander or Smasher survied the power OF THE SUN. Which is just impossible tbh
I saw your Frank Horrigan vs. Space Marine video yesterday, and I have to say, your videos are amazing. There's no unnecessary chatter-just pure facts. Your conclusions are easy to understand, and your reasons are solid. Your videos are really fun to watch. Just wanted to express that. Keep up the good work, and I am looking forward to seeing your next video.
Flight is such a powerful weapon considering the battle will always happen on homelanders terms.
He can just throw things or use his heat vision at range or pick smasher up and fly real high then drop him like how some hawks do to turtles
sandevistan
Guns and missiles.
@@A-1412 which won’t really hurt homelander he can survive at least 1 hydrogen bomb.
@@CounterCurseMantra Sure smasher can dodge but if he gets caught in the air its not really worth anything. Then again he’s very modular maybe anti-grav feet or jetpacks? He has a large assortment of gear to choose from though that requires prep time
Smasher would 10000% not die from fall damage he’s probably immune as long as he falls on his feet honestly
Homelander is weak-willed, is objectively terrible at fighting, insecure and has fled numerous times. He has lost many times. Adam Smasher got this one. Though not easily due to flight. Although he can almost fly himself. Homelander could only use flight to flee, which he'd probably do.
Homelander isnt that bad considering be could go at his dad and butcher who were soldiers
Adam has nothing that can damage homelander tf are you smoking my guy?
Lost many times ? When? He never lose even once when solo . And he still hold his ground when getting jumped by 2 strongest supes and Huey. And by real feat ,no prep time, what weapon can AM use to hurt HL
@@lanhhuyethan5686 He escaped...
@@Skylingale You don't know that.
You forgot to mention that David couldn't see tech weapon rounds move move which are literally handheld railgun firing rounds at Mach 8 making David hypersonic and do note that this speed is from the cyberpunk 2020 rule book since we don't know the speed for tech weapons in 2076 but they should be massively above that since over 50 years have passed since cyberpunk 2020.
EDIT: the episode with the great blue wonder isn't Canon to the boys show it's explicitly stated by the creator only the final episode is Canon at best you can argue that it's Canon to the boys comic since it's an adaptation of an issue but that's still a different continuity from the show
I mean tech weapons are likely way faster which makes 77 smasher a speedster and then some cuse the man scales to V in sandevistan when it comes to speed and V can deflect a tech round in game.... with no sandy mind you.
@@sirsunman7826 I know
Forgot to mention that there are also militech laser weapons and I'm pretty sure adam did beef with militech before.
@@Snoozytube yeah he did many times since arasaka and militech hate each others
I think that it was mentioned in first season boys that Homelander was flying at mach 3 while searching for transluscent, so Blue wonder feat is not really necessary
I am only coming over here to comment that I was high and misread the title as Homelander vs. Adam Sandler.
if i had a nickel for everytime someone said this i would have 2
Adam Sandler no-diffs Homelander.
I think a cool fight is Cole from Infamous vs the Seven. Morally questionable superheros who've gained they're powers from fascist experiments (Compound V was developed by a Nazi, and the Raysphere was created by an elite secret cult with heavy Nazi imagery and parallels).
Not to mention Cole kinda looks like a mix between Huey, Homelander, and Mother's Milk.
Bonus points if it's Evil Cole, as he's basically everything Homelander wishes he could be.
Cole biodrains them
*Laughs in Bio-Drain and Ionic Storm*
Cole would fodder them in actual moments if we're talking end-game levels.
Talking about a more early-mid game version of him though. Personally I don't think he's nearly as fast or as durable as people make him out to be. Dodging lightning as a show of speed isn't nearly as impressive as people think for two reasons; one he can sense it coming, and two, the lightning he and Kessler fire isn't moving at actual lightning speed. We know this because normal dudes, ordinary in-game enemies, can dodge the bolts you fire.
And in terms of durability, the very first thing people try to use to talk up Cole is that he survived the Raysphere. This is a complete non-arguement. He is a conduit. He was ALWAYS going to survive it, epicentre or not. It only destroyed a few square blocks, and not instantly or completely, and Cole was being rejuvenated and healed by it as much as it was burning him.
(Momentarily off-topic, but people compare Cole's Raysphere to Alex Mercer surviving a nuke. One did a lot of damage to a few square blocks. The other was supposed to flatten all of manhattan. Somehow, people think they are equivalent.)
Anyway to further talk about Cole's durability, in InFamous 2, Cole got trapped in a metal box that his lightning couldn't shoot through since it kept just conducting to the metal instead of passing, and two normal guys with normal guns very nearly put him in the dirt. Before this he also suffers a car crash, a *_car crash,_* which Cole himself describes as "feeling like a second death", and it incapacitates him so brutally he has to crawl into a storm drain and sleep to recover.
His speed is great, his healing is good, but neither are as high as people think they are.
*_However_* his raw fucking damage is off the charts in no time. Blasting cars to pieces with *_electricity_* means he outputs a huge amount of energy even early game, and his powers get very, very strong as he goes on. Especially since he has lightning blades in InFamous 1 or the Amp in InFamous 2 to channel all that destructive power into melee attacks, making him deadly at range and CQC. His lightning isn't literally lightning fast (until he's actually calling lightning from the sky), but he can still easily use it to make himself wreathed in energy to make speed-blitz from Homelander less possible.
All in all, Cole at even just mid-game easily solos the entire Seven except Homelander, who I personally would argue Cole would have very high difficulty with. We've never actually seen HL being hit by lightning so we don't really know how his body reacts to it. Maybe worse than a human, maybe better. Either way Cole still has a very solid chance, especially since they'd be fighting in a city and draining energy from nearby objects massively amps Cole's healing.
High difficulty, in Cole's favour I think.
If they happen to be fighting during a thunderstorm, Cole would be practically immortal and flying high up would actively be detrimental to HL. In which case, it would be easy difficulty in Cole's favour.
@@InfiniteEscuroI am curious just how strong and fast actually are homelanders heat vision? It cut through a plane in less than a second which isn’t much but considering how casually he did so it makes me wonder how powerful a fully concentrated beam is.
It's powerful, but not that powerful. Aluminium melting point isn't that high, and that airplane's hull was made of aluminium
the fun fact is that in the old TTRPG Smasher got more cybernetic bodies that he can just switch between so if you gave him prep time he could just get best equipment for Homelander killing
It all comes down to scaling the Cyberpunk universe to The Boys. With the technology that's going around in 2077 I could easily see Homelander not being that massive of a threat, although I don't see how only Adam Smasher would be capable. The Dai Oni was strong enough to survive a nuke, but that things is incredibly heavy.
I guess it depends on how strong Homrlander's heat vision actually is and how resistant Smasher's body is. We see a bunch of laser cannons in 2077 (like the one on the Militech Chimera and the Militech Centaur) so it's safe to say Smasher's body is built to resist those.
one thing to mention abt that whole taking adam to suffocate i guarantee that mfer aint got lungs anymore
yea but he's got a brain he kinda needs oxygen for that
@@sikenal5647 probs got canisters at this point or just some kinda artificial breathing
The logistics of 2077
Smashers tech and intelligence boosted by machine learning would produced a competent way to stop homelander.
Smashers can adapt to homelander with the tech of 2077.
When people think tech is magic...
@@zagreus5773when it can basically stop time yeah
@@gorb688 By that logic Homelander can do magic as well, because he is faster than the Sandevistan. Dude dodged an explosion from point blank. But I'm referring to him saying "Smashers can adapt to homelander with the tech of 2077." That's just magical thinking. No explanation to how his tech can beat him, just that tech can do whatever.
@@zagreus5773 have you played the games? With Arasaka backing him his tech basically can do anything
@@gorb688 Yes, I have. And Arasaka tech isn't magic. That's just how it is. If you think the tech can beat homelander, you need to explain how. Simply saying "It can do anything" just shows you don't understand anything.
I wouldn't mind Homelander killing Smasher to "I Really Want to Stay at Your House."
"How are you faster than me?!"
"A rudimentary implant."
me vs you
🫵🤛
Make that 3 way free for all.
@@benedictjajo you may now kiss
Idk dude, I think it is clear that homelander will try to fight smasher hand to hand - because he likes to play around, and when he finally gets that you don't play around with smasher it would be too late.
And we know that if your strong enough you can injure him - solder boy fight. And honestly the soldier boy's feats (regarding physical attacks) are nothing compared to smasher.
The thing is, you're not taking their personalities into account. Homelander is a big man child and will go off at even the slightest wounding of pride. He's also a blaring egomaniac who would think that smasher would go down in one punch. Homelander isn't someone who makes combat plans. He usually just rushes in and expects to win. So Smasher could easily dodge with his sandevistan and kill homelander right then and there if it really came down to that.
But let's say that they were on equal footing and both knew what they were getting into. Homelander's entitlement and fragile pride always compromise him, no matter how focused he is. All Smasher has to do is insult him as they fight and Homelander will grow increasingly reckless and aggressive, to Smasher's advantage. Smasher wins more than not because of his calculated approach to fights.
Adam Smasher is probably the worst cyberpsycho you could ever encounter and it's by a mile. He's a high-functioning cyberpsycho, meaning that his intelligence remains uncompromised while his cyberware limit is no longer relevant. Given everything he has in his arsenal, He would beat homelander with sheer firepower and overwhelming force. Adam doesn't need a jetpack tp fly around. More likely than not, Smasher can just leap the distance necessary to get homelander from where he's perched in the air. If you go into deep detail, even this fight feels a little one-sided in Smasher's favor
A Clan Elemental from Battletech could make a decent match up for a space marine from 40k.
I hate to say it but an elemental wrecks
They are just a terminator but better weapons, much better speed
Only advantage a term has is the iron halo shield and experience
A single marine is dead
Aren't Battletech mechs like literally the size of 40k's Titans? I'd imagine a single Titan would solo a single Space Marine.
@@slingshotmcoy no, most battle mechs are in the range of knights, tho a some of em them are overall a little bigger due to not being humanoid and thus wider/longer, the atlas being i think roughly 30% taller? But not titan size
2nd a elemental isn't a mech, it's a unit clad in a self contained powered armor so more akin to a .... Well space marine then a battlemech
But a clan elemental is far more potent then a single marine, like it's not even close as they can tank direct gauss hits that shed off tons of armor at a time, all are equipped with jetpacks, and can physically rip open battle mechs while also carrying they equivalent of a lascannon and often also have racks of anti armor missiles
They are effectively dreadnoughts
General grevious( not his nerfed version. Pull from books.)
Vs.
A coughing baby.
4 million joules isnt 1 ton. Over 4 billion joules is 1 ton
What an amazing video! No bs and very well researched, got a new sub dude.
Love the analysis! Badass music in the background too. 🤘
really like these analysis videos, keep it up 👍
Yoo i love your videos, definitely an upcoming legend honestly. Would love to see your take on sometning like Raiden V Virgil
Homelander watching Adam Smasher Arriving with the Gravity mod: 💀💀💀
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good video, going throughly with every aspect of these two
these are great match ups this my first vid watching u and i already see another good matchup lich vs tatsukami w for showing more adventure time dat shi underrated in powerscaling.
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First time I've seen a video of yours. I'll probably be watching any time you cover a character that interests me.
I didn’t think someone would make a video comparing these 2 characters
Such a fun channel to watch
I love your vids these are great
Okay I got a request and I will pay money for this, who do you think would win? Prophet from the crysis series bs master chief? I want to know your opinion on this. Also just discovered your channel and subscribed
Prophet easily
IIRC the Crysis suit literally consumed Prophet and became him. Like the suit is literally an empty shell at some point in the series.
@@ChiefWombatCuddler not really an empty suit more like it became a blob of nanomachines it's not empty but rather than a corpse you'll find nothing but ceph nanites
@@XD-sc4ix
That's both horrifying and fucking cool.
@@XD-sc4ix at best prophet was able to throw around 30 tons thats somthing that chiefs old mark 5 armor could do and his mark 6 somthing that wasn't even his prime suit is twice as strong as the mark 5 prophet is at best annoying chief a little before chief rips him in half
I don’t know if you’re interested in this matchup, but I’ve always wanted to know who would win, a Yautja (Predator) or an Elite from Halo. I figure the Elites having to fight Spartans gives them an edge but the Predator is a tricky bastard and hunts preferably to fighting. New fan of the channel, I really like this content and I really appreciate that you don’t stretch the videos out with useless stuff to reach 10 minutes or whatever the algorithm decides is good
predator
@@krubenator yeah? I mean I know Elites aren’t on the level of Spartans but I also only played through Halo 4, got an Xbox in my mid-teens after Halo kinda lost some popularity. I thought it’d be a cool matchup is all, I love the Predator, the mythos and all that though, so if this is a bad matchup then I didn’t know lol
its not a bad matchup the yautja just probably wins@@strykerwaller3784
I think it is very evenly matched, but I think it narrows down to what rank the elite is, a normal sangheili can be around mid - hard dif for the predator, but then higher ranking elites like zealots, ultras, generals and spec ops can definitley beat a yautja, mainly because the elite's sense of honor is far less restrictive than the yautja, having a far bigger range in weaponry than yautjas, plus energy shields are a thing within elite ranks, and pretty much every single one of them uses energy shields, not to mention elites also have active camo, which makes them almost entirely invisible, some of the more experienced elites can even use it without making a sound, and let's remember their strength, one elite picked up emile, a spartan III in full armor, which weights a little over half a ton, and he did it with one hand, that's incredibly strong.
@@strykerwaller3784 actually, in terms of strength elites tend to be on par, sometimes stronger depending on the armors of the combatants, but spartans are always faster. brutes are stronger than both of them but slower. in the extended lore even Master Chief has lost fights before, once by an elite and another by a brute who wasnt even atriox. I would say the elite wins against predator.
I just find your channel, its great, you should do one about comic book spiderman vs space marines
I read the title as “Home lander VS Adam Sandler is almost fair” then I realised I can’t read.
Flight can be really OP if someone else doesnt have it
"I didn't think any of this would get any views."
You picked two characters that people are HEAVILY interested in. Your channel name makes perfect sense, now. Bad analysis, indeed!
this a interesting matchup i never thought about.
dude ur awesome! you arent a total prick and you dont twist the rules in one persons favor! i subbed, and i hope to see your channel grow. also can you do an omni man/ invincible episode?
hey, good video and! I think, what it was a greate Homelander and Smasher analysis. Keep up the good work!
What about ideas for battles, I have few: Predator vs mandalorian, Predator (elite (how Wolf or Scar Face) or soldier (how Hydra or Blazer) vs Astartes or Spartan and final idea: Predator vs Jeepers Creepers. Yeah... i really like "Predator".
Just found out this channel. Oh boy what a find
Honestly I think this is the best assessment of Homelander’s feats, really makes me think Homelander is a lot stronger than I expected to believe.
Cool vid
Honestly the predator vs the terminator is probably pretty close
Eeh not really terminator wins infrared negates predator's invisibility, it has much better stats and depending on the model could eat the plasmacaster shots for breakfast and still ask for more
@@XD-sc4ix
The predator's plasma caster can one shot armored helicopters. I'm not sure if it is canon, but their invisibility also inhibits thermal imaging to a limited degree, at least it did so in the AVP videogames.
They do change their gear and Weaponry based on the opponent they fight, honor and all that, at their highest they have full auto plasma casters and basically power armor, we could assume the predator was using better Camo to fight against the space fairing humans in the AVP games to account for any inconsistency with the 2nd predator movie
They have a higher range of mobility, perhaps equal accuracy due to their soldier mounted plasma having Autoiaim, but probably giving it to the Terminator
Assuming flat ground, the terminator probably wins, the more urban or jungle area, the predators gonna outmaneuver the terminator, sure he may be able to track the predator, but the predator can do the same except he can move faster, find more advantagous positions and the shoulder mounted plasma allows him to keep sights on a terminator while hopping across buildings
@@phil3751 the T-850 tanked a plasma shot from the T-X that disintegrated half a firetruck and scales above HK-tank plasma cannons which have vaporised humans, pickup trucks and small houses with just one shot. And even then the T-800 can tank an handful of shots from a phased plasma rifle which can core through MBTs armor and projectile moves at hypersonic speed.
Yautja power armor is war gear only as in its only used by the yautja soldiers during times of war.
Terminators aren't slow they can keep up with cars actually also a T-600 could run at 80 km/h.
That's not how the yautja hunts unless it's a group or a bad blood they'll attempt to fight their prey in an honourable way that is engage in melee with it except a terminator is much stronger than a predator
@@XD-sc4ix @XD-sc4ix I didn't know those facts about the terminator, guess it depends on which type. Are those the terminators from the movies? Yautcha do carry portable EMPs which works on thr sci Fi human tech but that would probably be dishonorable.
I don't think the predator would just try to melee the Terminator. He matches whatever the opponent has. When his enemy has Ranged weapons, he uses ranged weapons, if he is unarmed, he goes for melee, he might try to melee if he understands the unfair advantage of using Camo, or just being cocky, but he will use range on lone warriors, when hit in the back by Dutch in the first movie, he starts blasting away with his caster, even with full knowledge he was the last human. Bro is an alien, it won't take much to understand he faces a war robot, and would adjust accordingly. I mean his frame of reference for machines is his shoulder autoaiming canon, that would probably tell him getting to melee would be suicidal
Melee might not be hopeless for a predator either, there are some people on the Internet saying wrist blades are monomolecular, but I have found no real solid proof of that so it's up to you. Their smart discs can be nano/vibronic, which is sci Fi jargin for super sharp vibrating blades to cut the hardest armors
@@phil3751 smart disc aren't vibronic or whatever they get lodged on trees
Adam Smasher has a bit of a Batman type advantage of Homelander. Homelander is an idiot superman who is constantly saved by his powers. Not only is Adam Smasher exceedingly more dangerous and capable than anything Homelander has even considered, he also tends to strike first in ambush.
An inexperienced cockie bufoon being hunted by a ruthless unstoppable force, Homelander would probably get ambushwed, overwhelmed, and systematically shut down by Smasher like every other victim. Just like Superman though it's up to the writers to not go, "Ok but he's just 100% invincible."
Homelander is so weak willed and is not used to having a real fight. Smasher's aggression combined with competency would effect his mental.
I think in a "fair" fight gotta give it to homelander. I think Adam could kill homelander if he got billy levels of creative and underhanded. All I know is V wins against either 😜
Adam Smasher Vs Frank Horrigan has been on my mind all week
Homelander when Adam goes "It is time for Smashing!"
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I need more fights where Homelander can actually win or if defeated it takes a lot of effort, not just being torn appart like paper like fighting OmniMan, love ur vid
amaazing now do V vs Courier Six
You should do Guardians from Destiny vs literally anything from Warhammer
Nice fucking work, I like the way you speak
Just subscribed to this channel agree with the winner of this fight
It's smashing time
Look, some of Homelander's best feats are either off-screen or animated. Madelyn said they threw every weapon they had at him (which should include a nuke) + his chemical plant feat and still couldn't put him down & his speed from outrunning Billy's self-destruct. I swear, the only thing keeping him from doing crazier things is TV budget.
Madelyn said that, but can you really trust vaught its not like they would advertise that hes killable. also if mave was able to rupture his ear drum just like she did, a nuke definitely would.
A nuke that could remake the terrain that no normal human could ever get their hands on and would require permission from the military and spend billions just to test if Homelander could face-tank a nuke that can hit with enough heat to exceed the heat of the sun. Yeah, Vought would definitely waste the money and potentially cause massive public relations issues just to nuke their golden boy that they likely can't get a second of.
@@starhammer5247 And yet they said they did.
@@GoldenBoyBlueNo, they didn't. They said they used every weapon on him, but never did they say they used a nuke on him. Not once is it implied aside from one scene that doesn't even mention using a nuke, just a vague "We tested every weapon" because there is no fucking way Homelander is surviving that shit. He has been hurt by wall-level to building-level shit, yet you're saying he can tank city to mountain level based on a vague as fuck statement? No, that makes no sense.
@@starhammer5247 A nuke is a weapon.
Homelander: “I’m stronger better I’m better! I lift all of humanity and they need me! They need me always! Because I’m their greatest protector if they didn’t have me they would be nothing! I am the greatest thing they created-“
Smasher internally: *I miss when people actually got around to fighting like David and V now I just have this pathetic man-child alien thing who has daddy issues*
Alright, I think I got one that sounds fun. A Star Craft Marine vs. a COG soldier from gears of war.
Homelander dies to arrogance
Bad analysis is a good name for the channel
I'mma need the name of the metal song used in the homelander explanation section pls, it's fire 🔥
I can totally picture homelander being an smasher's fan
Hey, can we see a match up between Smaug from the Hobbit movies versus Safi'jiva from monster hunter world: iceborn?
They're both massive dragons, and I think them duking it out would be fun.
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Kratos vs Doomslayer please!!!
The blob (movie monster) vs John Carpenter's the thing would be interesting
Blob, imo
Who do you think would win Killer Croc from DC or Leatherhead from TMNT?
Fun fight idea Daniel Park (Lookism) vs ayanokoji (CoE)
Why is that even a suggestion, I'm pretty sure that COTE is a lot more realistic than Lookism, so most(if not all) COTE characters would probably lose against Lookism characters in direct melee combat.
@@lakshaykochhar6799hey you still have people say that COTE is Baki leves of strength and would be interesting to get someone who’s a little neutral to both series take on it
who do you think could win in a fight between either
frank horrigan vs homelander?
the dragonborn (post main quest, pre dlc quest) vs superman?
Smasher would be a sick mk1 addition
You should do sundowner vs adam smasher.
You have to consider that sundowner is FUCKING INVINCIBLE!!!!!! Can't beat someone that powerful.
Depends on which Smasher you're talking about. 4th corporate Smasher was less beefy but could fly, for example.
adam smasher doesnt have lungs all he has is his brain he can fight in space if he wants too
You forgot one *vital* factor. Honelander is a killer, but Adam Smasher is a ** professional **
Demi-god vs walking refrigerator.
I’m glad cyberpunk is getting the appreciation for power scaling it has
pls make yujiro vs homelander
One of the things overlooked: Adam smasher gets his power from cybernetics whilst Homelander is biological.
Presuming there is no nano-repair systems, Adams cybernetics will accumulate micro damages that he cannot heal: whilst homelander does have that ability as a living thing.
Homelander holds out long enough, metal fatigue and other damage will just keep on accumulating on smasher until either a vital system is broken leaving Adam easy prey, or Adams metal is exhausted by days of non stop fighting until homelander is able to overcome it.
Homelander has next to no experience going up against opponents where he could actually go all out, whereas Smasher has a hundred years of combat experience
Is it so hard to understand that Homelander has literally 40 years of experience having been trained since he was a child? In the series you can clearly see him dealing with 2 people at the same time who were almost as strong as him. For the love of God, watch the series with your eyes next time.💀
@@rope5846 Cope
@@rope5846homelander has experience but he is so much stronger than everything else he never has to try so he doesn't know how to go up against someone of equal power
@@lazydonkey3617 Dude, you are replying to a comment that literally mentions Homelander going up against two opponents of equal power. How dense are you?
Could you please do
Toji vs Invincible ?
Nice video, but I think you should checkout a character called vampire hunter D
How are you doing AP ?
Are you just taking the total energy of a feat ?
Or
Are you doing the energy density of a feat ?
So V, with the right Cyberware, can Solo Homelander?
Goddamn bruv.
I love it when Homelander gets some love when all his debates are stomps for him
He’s not weak, he’s strong. People just put him into completely unfair situations
The problem with Adam Smasher of the game was that he was extremely underpowered.
i was actually looking into the realistic science behind adam smasher's power level and he is goddamn scary. the fact that he would most likely give homelander a genuine scare is reason enough for me considering he's not a super powered being
Necron Warrior vs T-800 Terminator
I like terminator but the Necron warrior no-diff the standard equipment for the warrior could oneshot the T-5000
@@XD-sc4ix ya I know. I just love the two factions, both skynet and the Necron dynasties
Bro even a limited number of necrons solos any terminator regime
Laser eyes can be nullified
Watching these videos always makes me wonder…what would happen if Smasher used compound V?
Interesting take on the two, and accurate math. I agree that Homelander takes this one however. The Sandevistan is extremely fast, dont get me wrong. But in any given scenario? Homelander's heat vision is cutting Smasher in half from long or short range every time. That and he was basically born with the Sonic Shock quickhack. I think a frequency THAT high could disrupt some of Smasher's cyberware a bit as well.