MK8 GTI DSG vs Elantra N DCT with OL Rematch!
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2024
- Today, a 2022 MK8 VW GTI races a 2022 Hyundai Elantra N with Octane Learning. The results were shocking..
This is a computer generated simulation filmed in Mexico. This is NOT real
MK8 GTI (7AT)
-Stock, 91 octane
Hyundai Elantra N (8AT)
-Stock, octane learned, 91 octane
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I’ve watched videos of the N walking the stock gti stock vs stock and now I see this and I’m confused lmao
@@layne4376I hate that video because both drivers made critical errors with the EN. In race 1, EN driver didn’t know how to turn and get the car into boost properly (he admitted it). In race 2, EN driver couldn’t figure out how to use launch control (he blamed the car). Funny enough, GTI driver said it looked like the EN was using NGS because it was quickly catching up to the GTI before the turn (EN driver said after the race that he did not actually use NGS at that time). Ultimately, driver error hurt the EN badly and it still only barely lost.
There’s another Edmunds video comparing the GTI, EN, and WRX in an autocross type environment and the driver who tested all 3 said the EN was clearly the fastest and most powerful-it also got the best time by a lot.
What’s happening in Jvette’s videos is a consequence of gas used. The EN is heavily dependent on 93 octane. It is essential. Is it annoying and stupid? Yes. Is it legitimate tho? Also yes!
I also don’t want to discount Jvette’s content because frankly it is some of the best stuff out there. It’s careful and scientific. These videos have seriously fleshed out the mystery of EN octane learning and the truth about the performance of a lot of cool cars. I think there’s still a bit more work to do tho.
yes that was a joke of a test they really made the Elantra look bad in fact in my opinion they made it look bad on purpose
Like I’ve been saying for months, 93 seems to be essential. I see some bad-faith comments in here already.
Sure seems that way. Thanks for weighing in.
Yeah if it’s OL on 93 gas it’s going to walk the gti every time
smells like copium
@@HarryTwatter Nah, it’s just the truth. Don’t confuse it with copium.
@m4rc0_p0l0 I don't think walk but just gradually pull away,it's only like 3 mph difference in the 1/4mile when the elantra n is octane learned
The Elantra is still a beautiful car. You guys are all blessed to have all those great cars. 😊
This is the most important thing, regardless of who won the GTI and EN are both fantastic cars!
now tune them both and the GTI will really show them some tailights
facts. its crazy how much more power they put out without even adding extra parts tuned.
my 2024 gti doesnt pull on my buddies N like this.... something must not be working on mine lol
Or maybe the Elantra in this test is just a dud because it's one of the slowest I've ever seen.
Elantra N are heavily dependent on octane. Here in Mexico we have ACN 91 which is the worst gas on planet earth
@@user-us9jo6xu7zI’m actually starting to wonder if this is true. This EN might legit be a dud, have a boost leak somewhere, etc
This really surprised me great races thank you for the informational content
Glad you enjoyed it!
One thing to know is that because a pump says 91 octane, doesn't mean it actually is.. years ago I did testing of using different brands - all 91 octane using a knock sensor and found some brands did much better vs others. If you want to do a very strict test, have the cars fuel up at the same station.
GTI FTW!
Been waiting to find a BONE stock elantra N on the east coast in maryland . Have a BONE stock 2023 mk8 gti . If anyone here is on this side . Would be nice to compare
how well does the gti run on 87? have u noticed any difference in octane between regular and premium?
When I had mine, no
Wow crazy how the gti still can pull on the Eleantra n even when it's octane learned
The EN seems dependent on 93 to make full power. I’ve been saying it for months before all these tests.
@@Symphoniics I mean I guess that makes sense
Love my MK8 GTI so much. Toe to toe, slightly faster, than the N even with octane learning and can probably do the same with 87 octane. Still love that Elantra N though!
Not probably. It CAN do this on 87
It’s not octane learned on 93 tho. You probably haven’t seen my comments on Jvette’s other videos but I’ve been saying 93 seems to be crucial for a while now.
@@Symphoniics true. Maybe with 93 octane learned they might be neck and neck. Regardless it's still extremely impressive showing from the GTI as it can do these runs back to back with 87 octane as well. No learning required.
@@homeskillet2606 100% agree. The GTI is so underrated in terms of power as well as the attention it gets in the car community. Mk8 is my favorite GTI tbh.
@@Symphoniics guess all the infotainment stuff when it first launched really left a sour taste to a lot of people unfortunately. Glad to see the Elantra N getting praise everywhere though, Hyundai nailed it!
“He post videos of him racing himself” 🤣 I’ve seen that guy as well. Crazy how the Elantra cant beat a Gti I thought they were the “fastest in their class” 😂
The type r would most likely get gapped by the gti too lol🤣
I’m sure it won’t unless they can’t drive lol
@@Dimelowcrewmost definitely will get walked by the gti lol
Have you ever had a 2023 GLI Jetta on your channel?
No, but if I knew someone with one I’d be down to make a video on it
Do you know how easy can i beat gti mk7.5-mk8 with my elantra N
Post a video of you doing an organized set up race with a mk8 GTI dsg then? No, not racing a random person on the highway that has their car in drive and doesn’t know you’re racing.
Is not possibly to post the race to channel but if you want to watch it i can send you in private
Sure. DM me on Instagram @ Jvette01
@@JVette01 ok
Riight
Both cars are beautiful and it was a close race..💪💪
Not gonna lie I wasn’t expecting that haha maybe like you guys said it might be that small 91vs93 difference but great video nonetheless, I guess I have to start watching out for those new gti’s lol 😉
Big fan dude. Love your channel and your project EN and hope you become very big overtime 🤙🏼
@@jordynhixson655 thanks brother that means a lot to me 💪🙂
Time for some octane boost or mix in some race gas to make 93 octane for good measure?
Might just have to have him put in a couple gallons of E85 and see if that helps haha
I'll do some research on It and see how I can make it close to 93. Stock HPFP doesn't work though and would need to switch it out for a Sonata Nline one because it is better fool and future proof
@@jordynhixson655I have a stage 1 tune and the stock hpfp is still up to the task. It's only needed for stage 2 or above.
@@user-us9jo6xu7z Ah gotcha, I'll have to try it out then
@jordynhixson655 it's not from a sonata n line it's actually from a 2013 sonata 2.0t
Love it! Fair play to the N and proud of my fellow little egg.
Eggs are great ;)
Your guys cars are awesome. Mk8 is superior to every other generation
Octane learning can easily be reset if you turn your car off by the way
This could've been a possibility and read it a lot on Reddit. Seems like a tune is the only way to make it not a issue anymore
@@jordynhixson655 unfortunately you’re correct. Going to ride out this powertrain warranty till around 70k-90k miles. Then I’m going stage 1, downpipe, hpfp, and turbo inlet. DCT will be good. Turbo can handle stage 1 for a while with really good maintenance. Hoping to have small issues/expected maintenance till 150k.
Octane learned to what? stock is 15PSI, 16-20 PSI is Octane learned, so technically even if it shows 16PSI its "octane learned", with these cars just because it octane learned doesn't mean its 20PSI off the bat so you have to check what it gets to. On a typical day I don't try to octane learn and it still does it gets like 16-17PSI, if I go to the highway right after filling 93 I get about 18-19 so still a little bit of a difference.
Why not just design the car to give full power on any fuel type, I don't understand this but these are beautiful machines
octane makes big difference at that 18-20lbs, i have a 2024 sonata n line with a jb4, on anything lower than 93 octane it isn't happy on map 3 even with new plugs and gaps. I had a heavy modded older gti at the track and we matched times in the 1/4 pretty much but he blew his clutch sadly. I was running at best low 13.3's that night. This weekend on true e30 i ran 13.17 with map4 "holds boost longer". My friend with a 23 EN came down and was full octane learned on 93 no mods and put down a 12.9 vs my 13.17.
How did you manage to limit your wheel spin? Or your 60foot time for that matter?
I hear they struggle from a dig, I'm struggling a bit too with my GTI
@@bttawfiq prepped track, reduced air pressure, cleaned tires before launch, just a quick back up and floor it to get a slight spin off, avoid all water as well. I am on all seasons so the suck , anything better will limit the spin, i have been able to get 2.1 on the 60'
@@laural7449 I assume then it's a different story on normal streets, yes I used to do those tricks when I drag raced my 2007 Mustang GT at the time (videos in my channel),
Reduced air pressure, a quick spin just to clean off the tires, and some cooling time between runs.
Good times!
I sold my 40AE Gti and was thinking EN next but got damn this video 😆
Hahaha. They're both great cars. Just depends on what you're looking for in a vehicle.
@@JVette01 tbh, I don’t feel comfy purchasing anything made post 2019, the pandemic really pushed wildly down the drain.
I’d love too and would do it today but not if it’s going to just be a repair bay baby
@@SWEETVENOM100 just put 93 shell v power fuel and Octane learn it with a DCT you'll be good to go
@@Jcastro9444 I was thinking of going stick🤔
@SWEETVENOM100 I'm sure thats more fun than the DCT, I'd go for it
my kona N is quite a bit faster than a gti when octane learned 93octane tho
Videos?...
In your previous videos, your R barely pulled on the Elantra N, but then completely walked a MK8 GTI. Based on those two previous videos, these results seem off. Maybe the Elantra N in this video has a small boost leak somewhere? Or the GTI is hiding something. Interesting nontheless.
We might get yet another rematch with the EN on octane booster. Stay tuned. I know what you mean, he did much better vs my R than the GTI did
Hey @@JVette01my girlfriend recently got a mk8 manual and I have an Elantra N. We did 2 30 rolls and a 60. Each time I got ahead by about half a car and kept slowly pulling away. We are both 6 speed manuals, stock, 91 octane at 5000' above sea level. I was also not octane learned
With manuals, lots of room for driver error, but thanks for sharing!
@@JVette01 yeah the 30 rolls weren't too great but the 60 we both started in third and stopped at redline to only show the power of the cars. No driver input needed other than stepping on the gas
At least it was much closer. I think it's just dumb to have to octane learn an engine anyway. Imo
I own an N and I’ve raced GTIs and it’s not even close to a race. Either something is insane with the GTI or your N is not working properly
Keep in mind this is a MK8 GTI, not the older generations. The MK8 has a different turbo than the previous gens and it’s a lot faster stock for stock.
The N does the 1/4 in 12.9 (GTI 14+) and 0.5 sec less 0-60 than the GTI, nuff said.
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The en is 12.9 1/4 really ?
@@popsandbangs8858 there are vids on here proving that.
Shows how much of a difference 91 vs 91 pump gas makes in the N. I have a 23 EN and only fill up with 93 from bucees. The N will walk the gti if it’s OL on 93 gas every time. I was just neck and neck with a new Porsche cayman on the highway we did a 60 roll and let off at 120. Not sure if he was the 2.0 or the 2.5 though.
Somethings not adding up 😂
We were all surprised but the results don’t lie
@@JVette01 GTI putting in the work, nice video 👍🏻
Interesting to see the focus st and Megan rs vs the gti for a roll races
Focus ST will get destroyed. I already did this race in my MK8 GTI vs a FBO one - czcams.com/video/r9OGSJ6DJXc/video.html
Sad thing is the Megan rs doesn't really exist in the US
The new gen of the st has the same engine as the 2017 model? @@JVette01
@@JVette01 ford has not enough hp
I'm taking about the new focus st with 280hp
get that man 93 and settle it
Might do an experiment with a drop of e85 or maybe some 100 octane mixed in
Let the hate comments begin.😂 But forreal, MK8 GTI and even MK8 R are no joke and an amazing car. They are around the same price unless you get an S trim for the GTI and even then that trim is good for a majority of the people and lighter in weight if people dont care for the little convenience options. Jvette and i will try to do some more videos in the future if there are some ways to make a blend to get 93 with our 91.
VW ppl are gays 🍑😂
It might be an issue with the car. The GTI matching the N would be one thing, but taking it like that is something else.
That being said in the previous vid Jvette showed his GTI got 14.15s@103mph for the 1/4 mile and you got 13.87s@105mph. That shows your car is faster than at least 1 GTI. This GTI might just be god tier...or they're lying about it being 100% stock.
Keep in mind, that run I posted was done with 3k elevation, 4000-4600ft DA and about 20 degrees warmer. But yes, I was surprised too.
Bruh 💀 my Elantra beat the gti so easily stock to stock
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Just drive somewhere that has 93 octane and bring 10 gallons and try it again haha
I just bought some boostane to mix to get our 91 to make 93. Just found out today our 91 is ACN 91 which is closest to 88-89 octane because of how bad it is
German turbo vs Korean turbo the perfect match..it’s great content as always. keep up the good work buddy!
Elantra N guys are punching air right now. 😅
Even octane learned, the GTI still pulled the Elantra N. One of the best things about owning a GTI/Golf R is how people constantly underestimate them.
Then let's see the GTI up against the Type R because the EN can beat the Type R even with a six-speed.
@@user-us9jo6xu7z It highly depends on the driver of the Type R. A good driver in a Type R will beat an Elantra N. Ya’ll Elantra guys are full of excuses. LOL!
First it was, “The Elantra lost because it wasn’t octane learned”. Now it’s, “The Elantra lost because it wasted octane learned on 93”. So if the Elantra loses again while octane learned on 93. What will be the next excuse ya’ll have? “The Elantra wasn’t octane learned on 93, on a Wednesday afternoon, with a strong tailwind at its back? 🤣🤣
Car and Driver easily beat the type R with a 6-speed Elantra so LOL to you. A type R, Golf R, GTI all lose to the Elantra because they're limited to 150 and the Elantra isn't
@vr6gls Be nice and friendly please
The EN wasn’t on 93! EN is unfortunately dependent on the octane for full power. I’ve been saying it for a while now.
Kona N 93 oct vs Mk8 GTI 91 oct
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The GTI runs like a 14 second quarter mile. How is it even a challenge for the N to win???
Results speak for themselves. We mention in the video the gas quality which seems to be pertinent to the Elantra N’s performance
There’s something wrong with that N. Checkout SamCarLegion EN vs. GTI.
Sam's channel is absolutely garbage he would have that Elantra N beating a tesla plaid
@mattsmith7379 😂😂😂 true
@@mattsmith7379 I have proof of stock v stock
gti autobahn would of walked over that n even more
Actually the autobahn trim is slower because it’s heavier. No power increase. S is the quickest model
Told you it wouldn't make a difference
All for fun. Hope your ego enjoyed the video🤙🏼
And I’ve been saying it needs 93, not trash 91. EN is unfortunately very octane-dependent
@@jordynhixson655 I posted a snarky remark, then deleted it after reading your post below. Good on you for being humble enough to give credit to the GTI and putting yourself out there for our entertainment. Win or lose, that's cool with me.
@kickithard Appreciate you my man. I do these to help out Jvette and keep his channel growing with different videos that people can barely find. I have a couple of 100 octane stations near me so I'll do some experimenting with a couple gallons into 91 to make 93 and we'll do some future stuff, but for now, GTI is not to mess around with haha
I believe it was octane learned but it would've been nice to see the gauge🤔
This is the only video where I've seen the newer GTI beat the EN. Samcarlegion did a bunch of drag/roll vids with the EN and the Golf R DID take out the EN. He's in Toronto (maybe invite N-baby out and use his "beast"😅)
Gonna do an octane mix to get our 91 to 93 since our 91 has been tested to 88-89 max from certain m3 and m4 forums
@jordynhixson655 yeah not taking anything away from the GTI but somethings off on that EN for sure but what was the PSI during the run, never saw the dash🤔
@klasseact6663 I did peak at 19 but when I last looked it stayed around 16 when WOT. I pretty sure from how bad our gas is my car keeps detecting knock and saves itself so it decreases the psi even when learned. I know it's supposed to stay around 17-18 when WOT
@jordynhixson655 thank you for this, maybe do one of the famous You Tube shorts about it but add some "ghost racing" too😉😋
I persoanlly have raced a gti. Tuned infact and still pulled. By every metric the Elantra N is faster. It must be his car in specific that is under perfoming.
Was it a MK8? Probably not. And either way, if you’d like to bring yours up and race, I’d be more than happy to compare.
@@JVette01 where are yall located again?
Im sure it wasn’t Mk8 gti with dsg
This was shot in Mexico but normally were in Las Vegas
@@GTIclubdport9462 100% did. GTI is not that fast
Car and Driver proved the EN will beat a Civic Type R 0-150 and that's the 6-speed so I don't know why his DCT can't beat a GTI. Actually the EN will beat the GTI the R, Type R and the Type S all to 160 because the EN is the only one that doesn't have a speed limiter so the EN is the fastest. With the stage 1 tune the EN will do 170+.
Perhaps their EN was on 93 octane.
in that test they don't say what octane is in the cars but I've watched the video and I see the en is octane learned but PSI is bouncing around between 17 to 20 so it looks like 91 is in the car
@@user-us9jo6xu7zI wonder if the turbo Hyundai put in the EN is just garbage at elevation lol. Seriously tho, EN pulls on the GTI and Type R comfortably on 93 at sea level. I have a hunch it’s mostly the gas tho tbh
Get the Elantra tuned with Stage 1 and say goodbye to Octane learning and say hello to sub 5 Second 0-60 times. Then you easily say goodbye to the GTI because you'll have 300whp.
Then the GTI tunes the car too and beats it again.. that's a never ending cycle haha
True but at least octane learning will be gone and you will have 22 to 23 lb of boost even in normal mode @@JVette01
mk8 GTI's can achieve 300whp with just a tune.
@@basslover352so can an Elantra what's your point?
@@user-us9jo6xu7zyou're the one who is comparing modded vs stock? Just saying that power level is just as easily done on a GTI if not easier given the aftermarket support.
Needs 93 in that EN , it makes a difference in that car. I walk mk8 GTI stock in my EN smh
Meanwhile a GTI on 87 is consistent all day everyday and gets better gas mileage.
Man, you should do a video of it in this same format. Heck, when I take delivery of my 24 EN next month, I may have to see about whipping up some kind of test myself. I almost got the GTI actually but the exhaust just doesn’t do it for me.
That's where Hyundai messed up lol the OL stuff can be tricky for some people
The stock EN exhaust is amazing! GTI is not terrible but it’s no match for the EN.
@@Jcastro9444Hyundai absolutely messed up by putting the weird OL feature in the car. If I lived somewhere that didn’t have good 93, I’d 100% go GTI. But I live in Texas with exceptional 93 so EN makes a lot of sense.
Mk8 FTW
This is the first I've ever seen gti beating EN and I've seen lots of videos. Gti isn't faster and never was, I had VN and beat gti
The cars are so similar in performance that with an even start, one won’t destroy the other. And when you mention “I beat GTI,” what does that mean? Did you race the old mk7/7.5 gen? Or the new 2022+ Mk8 gen? Huge difference.
@@JVette01 go watch savageguesse video where he compared manual EN against type R, Golf R, gr corolla and some other car, they were all driven by the pro driver same track same conditions same tires, EN murked golf r amd gr corolla and it was manual so it was slower than Dct elantra N. The gti wasn't even in the picture. Gti is like miata and brz looks fun sporty and youthful but under those looks there's nothing there. The steering the cooling, suspension, power, the feedback you get the exhaust it's no where near EN. Two different vehicles trust me. I get it you like cute little hatch
I have a golf r and an m2 that will destroy the EN. It’s not a matter of what I drive, I’m referring to the straight line speed of a mk8 GTI and an EN in an organized set up race. We’re not talking about what car has a better sounding exhaust, etc..
@@i.d.6492The GTI is born to race in any autobahn high way and it has a strong top end . especially when you remove the speed limiter they are no joke! We call it the sleeper.
@@GTIclubdport9462 lmao sure buddy
Watch Sam Carlegion gti vs n
That channel is one of the worse channels showing car vs car. Almost every driver is inexperienced at even racing their own car. Plus Canada has 93
Worst drivers on planet earth on that channel. It’s rare when he has someone that knows how to drive.
The owners of those cars were drivers. They seem like good drivers to me and I watched them in other videos.
@@JVette01 hahahahaha go watch when he lose golf R or you're jealous from him 😲😂
He cant bro he scared of him
Bro i have elantra n and i beat any shit of gti out there too easily so what thaaa fak is this video???!!!!!😂😂😂
Btw i raced gti with my 2019 camry v6 and i got him
Yeah really we've seen ENs with 6-speeds beat type R's yet this DCT can't beat a GTI😂
Keep dreaming 😂
@@GTIclubdport9462 send me your phone number and will send you 😲🍑
@@GTIclubdport9462 you are such a piece of vw trash club right? 😂
@@GTIclubdport9462 tell that to Motor Trend.
Racing automatics. 🥱 Zzzzzzzz 😴
Get with the time standards are slow and obsolete and get even worse mileage
@@user-us9jo6xu7z obsolete? Lmaoooo. I’ll take being a bit slower so long as I can row my own gears. It’s the experience of driving… flooring it and steering alone is boring as hell.
@@AntilleanConfederation people still like riding horses too doesn't mean you're not obsolete
@@HarryTwatter a horse is more fun than driving automatic
@@AntilleanConfederationamen, brother!