Mr. Plinkett's Star Trek Picard Review
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2020
- Mr. Plinkett's review of Star Trek Picard is here! And it's way too long! But who cares? What else are you going to do during an endless pandemic? Also, how many nails can they finally put into the Star Trek coffin!? Well, Star Trek Picard is another one!
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I read Wil Wheaton's body language in all of those interviews as 'Please put me in the next season, please hire me, I'll be good, please give me a job!' So sad.
He could have just agreed to the money but still be writhing uncomfortably at having to lie so much
He should have been begging while putting on lip gloss. That would have landed him the job.
He needs work now that Big Bang Theory is over.
@Captain McDog why would Wheaton be punished like that? He would be the last to make un-PC tweets
@@stevenobrien557
The feminists who wrote this show eat their own first.
Back in the day, scifi fans would argue "which is better; Star Trek or Star Wars?"
Nowadays, they argue "which is worse; Star Trek or Star Wars?"
It's the same thing with video games these days. Used to be about who had the best games, now it's about debating over who has the worst.
* Mic drop *
Star wars by a landslide
Star Wars is not sci fi, it's fantasy.
Actually, I've noticed a lot of solidarity between Star Trek and Star Wars fans. I like both, but Star Trek is my favourite - but even if you only like one, you kind of realize that both groups of fans have been royally screwed over by incompetent hacks who couldn't write a coffee order.
I loved when the writers of the show praised the show's writing. Class act.
It felt like a Garth Marenghi bit.
They should have made Soji's address 1060 W. Addison St. Then everyone could say, "OH, so the show is meant to be shit like the Cubs."
Someone needs to. No one else will, other than the bots. And they're illegal by galactic treaty.
@@justafox5356 Maybe they've directed more shows than they've seen?
re _the writers praising:_ Yes, congratulating one another and stuff...
What I love most about this show is how uplifting and full of hope for the future it is. I mean, if Alex Kurtzman can keep getting work, then there must be a chance for all of us!
Nepotism
Nepotism.
Tribal privileges.
Seriously, how in Hell does Alex Kurtzman keeps getting work
The world is getting stupider at an accelerating rate.
*Scans Alex Kurtzman's Brain* "Probable Age: 37 Months"
"This space for rent."
haha tricorder go brrrr
*old Looney Tunes graphics of a tilting pinball machine* shows up on the tricorder's screen as smoke pours out of it.
ioo iiiiiii io ioiiiiiiiiii i ioiiiiiii iiiii iiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
ioiii
I hate the argument "Everyone has worked hard on this" to somehow claim the thing is above criticism.
Yep. If someone worked really hard on cooking a roast dinner but it's burnt and unseasoned, you're gonna have trouble choking it down no matter how much time and effort it took.
"Just give it a chance, go in with an open mind" words always said when what you made is a dumpster fire
Hard work is admirable. Good leaders redirect that work when it's going the wrong direction.
I said the same thing when they toppled that statue of Saddam Husain. "But so much work went into it! Please just judge it on its merits!"
I’ve seen that argument before. Like with phantom menace. Though kurtzman to be fair was asking for a chance and to judge his piece of shit based on merit. So that I respect.
"Why is the location of Ten Forward in Picards dream, not where Ten Forward is? Ten Forward is located on deck 10, forward, at the exact front of the ship... Do they not know that's why it's called Ten Forward? Oh who am I kidding, of course they didn't..."
Watching season 2 and realising that Mr Plinkett was fucking bang on the money...
I always wanted a LOTR spinoff with Frodo, post ring destruction, where he massacres elves because they went to the Grey Havens. Makes about as much sense.
at least we have Space Legolas in Picard's show.
galadriel returns to middle earth, but she's a suicidal drunk who hates king elessar and his evil regime of peace and pros- i mean chaos and cruelty
@@henrymartinvo Don't forget her massive long string of female and orc lovers that were like TOTALLY missunderstood and could be changed teh (( and the low budget chinese made fight scenes confessing her love for an ancient spider.... oh god help me please )).
@@henrymartinvo Just wait for the Amazon show.
Amazon Prime Producers : "That sound amazing"
Star Wars crapped all over the original characters and plot.
Terminator literally terminated it's hero.
Ghost Busters danced on the grave of respectable story telling.
Jurassic World turned the awe of Dinosaurs into bio-engineered monsters wrestling in a gift shop.
And now Star Trek turned the deepness of space and all it's philosophy into a 14 year old's dream during wisdom teeth removal on laughing gas.
What a time to be alive....
Exactly. I can't wait until the JJ Abram's reboot of Back to the future Starring Glen Close as Doc Brown and the girl from Akeelah and the Bee as Martina McFly fighting against Trumps America and Brexit, or whatever.
Notice a pattern yet?
@@DblOSmith The Back to the Future creators have stated in numerous interviews that a reboot will only happen "over their dead bodies".
"But wait, there's more!"
Don’t forget Doctor Who! Suffering under the same plague so extreme it’s about to earn its second cancellation in 50 years!(third if you count the failed comeback attempts with Paul McGann)
"Please value the show on its merits..."
The merits of the show led to an hour an a half long Plinkett review. Ouch
*evaluate
The show has no merits old man gets told to fuck off by women wow what a concept
@@infiniteflame2374 I could use a little fuel myself
Picard had all the ingredients checked off, but these people have absolutely no ability to tell a story, create an original character, cast a role, or construct anything but a bleak and depressing world.
It's like trying to make a souffle by throwing eggs at a wall.
@@Nildread and we could all use a little change
Boy they really wanted Romulans to be Space Elves in this.
RLM is literally the only time I’ve ever heard anyone ever mention Star Trek: Picard or Discovery. I’m not entirely convinced they exist in the first place
It is very difficult to move past the stage of denial, we all wish that none of this was real.
They're oh too real. We just just wish they weren't
@@BiggieTrismegistus I know…. 😔 I know.
I hope everyone realises Plinkett was released because Mike couldnt get Rich to talk about it with him anymore
That and Jay is fed up of filming it
That was my first thought too
Mike still recorded all the audio staring at a framed photo of Rich. :D
@@CarrotConsumer Space Rich Evans will rise again to redeem us!
@@CarrotConsumer No one's ever really gone.
I was there in Vegas when Stewart made this announcement, he also said "star trek is what the world needs right now" or something to that effect, everyone was so elated. And then the show comes out and its nihilistic, depression and depicts zero hope for the future. It's a nasty piece of television.
You forgot about the flower power, the power of pizza, and of lurrrve between a synthetic man and a artisinal man, man.
It's also barely relevant to what was touted as being an influence on the show. That was just turned into set pieces which was barely touched on: xenophobia, reactionary politics, immigrants. What, a meanie news reporter, and a prologue of an attack, that's supposed to be enough?
Yea no. The central premise was around this girl who was an android - who almost killed all organics on a whim - and the scaredy cat scat bash Romulans. Oh and a criminal arc for a few episodes, wowee. The show failed at even that. Not like it would help - the Federation is not going to change on a whim.
Contract, yes, be confused, yes, but not give up just because the Martian shipyards (one of many) or Mars (yet one world of many) got got.
@@Eshanas Since they said it is planned for three seasons, I'm guessing that the Romulan and Borg plots were including because they'll factor in for the next two seasons. Maybe the Romulan situation will be tied up in 2 and then the Borg finally defeated in 3. It's sloppy to have them included and go nowhere in this season, but tv is made now with the idea that the whole series will be watched at once.
This is a modern TV show. You can't have optimism or hopefulness in any fictional medium anymore. It all has to be this bleak, cynical, depressing, nihilistic bullshit, because it "reflects our current climate".
Don't give people optimism, just tell them how shit the world is and there's no hope.
We do need Star Trek right now... That reminds me, anybody know when The Orville S3 comes out?
You know that long heartbreaking monologue about the current state of Star Trek was so incredible I almost forgot it came out of 100 year old serial killer.
I like to imagine Dahj got her name because in the original script she was just "Daughter", then the writers lazily shortened it to "Daug", then they were like "Yeah, that works".
This reminded me of the "Station" story from the second Bill & Ted movie
Should've named her "Dawg"
I’m glad someone else thinks this. When i first saw the show, I literally thought that’s what it was supposed to be and that it would be acknowledged. But it just fucking wasn’t.
Like Snoke from the Star Wars sequels
S - Sith
N - No
O- One
K- Knows
E- Exists
All I hear in the show is dahjsozhizhatvazhzhaban zha zhe zhi zho zhu
Red Letter Media: Puts out Plinkett review for Star Trek Picard.
Me: “Well guess I’m watching a 90 min review about a series I’ve never watched... and know nothing about... and have no interest in.”
Me too!
Please don't watch Picard. Save yourself.
Same, didn’t bother with this show.
WHAT KINDA FANCY NAME IS "GENE LUCK PICKERD" ANYWAY?
HURRRR, I'LL BETCH I CAN MAKE YA SQUEAL LI- LI- LIKE A PIG!!!
Yep. Me too, friend.
"Star Trek: Picard is the most disappointing thing since Star Trek: Discovery"
*hits like button
It's so dense!
So true.
Star Trek Picard is not canon, spread the word everyone.
True dat
Just like the TNG movies, got it.
@@redzeppelin6 Yes.
Picard, Episode 7-9, Fallout 3, 4 and 76... let's cut it short and make it a general crossover episode, everything that happened after 2000AD isn't canon as machines really did turn against humanity and now they just half-assed try to imitate humans.
luckily they did all the work for you and put all this shit in a different timeline
This continues to be the most brutal, and most deserved destruction of a piece of corporate art ever made.
Well done Mike.
I regularly revist it just to remind me of how far things I used to love have fallen.
The effects of JJ Abrams Mystery Box TED talk have been devastating to a whole generation of writers.
Couldn't agree with Dio more.
I just hope audiences finally reject that shit but the problem is it's reinforced by an army of media journalists and attention-seeking vloggers/bloggers who make a living out of guessing the answers to the mysteries for those too stupid to think for themselves.
Mostly just Alex Kurtzman, who appears to be the only writer in Hollywood anymore
@@2012sonora BSG
It's kind of hilarious that a guy who's never written a decent story in his life was called on to give a talk about storytelling.
After Wesley said "I 100% agree with you", I immediately got an advert that said "If only all fraud was this easy to spot"
Omg same!
The Barclays gorilla advert!
It's like YT's automation has been left to run wild for so long, the results for ad placement are near satirical.
Yep, me too. Barclays doing some good for a change.
@@JimBrodie The algorithm secretly wants to die.
I’m going back through RLM Star Trek videos because of the new Picard season 2 video. One thing that stood out to me at the end of this one that I didn’t think about before was “role models.” In real life, I am a 40-something year old aerospace engineer, 100% because of TNG. As a child I loved Star Wars and Star Trek, but TNG specifically felt like my future. I knew I wanted to do with my life because I wanted to be Geordi and Data, and I saw Picard as the erudite father figure that I never had. I wanted so much to be there, and I did the best I could in the bounds of my reality. Role models. Absolutely, new trek has no roles models. It is just miserable people wallowing in their misery. The audience just hates their lives. They hate their world. They hate everyone. Everything sucks. And damnit Star Trek has to be just as miserable. It can’t be hopeful. It can’t make us want to be better. It’s sad. At least real Star Trek is still available, but unfortunately it is buried in a mountain of media. Young people will probably never find it.
I am a 40-something year old teacher that makes sure young people find it. I have made it my mission.
@@MrApostolis78 ur doing gods work! keep it up!
It's really interesting to read comments like yours because I'm the same age and I agree. The Star Trek I watched and superhero comics I read when I was a kid had a big effect on how I see the world as an adult. Current Star Trek and superhero comics just seem miserable because apparently "miserable" means "deep" nowadays.
@@BiggieTrismegistus What do you think one of the more inspirational positive-influencing series in production today is? I have elementary and middle school kids, and I would like to guide them towards the equivalent modern products. I’ve found many quality items over the years, but they’re not really STEM related. The best sciFi series are all TV-MA.
@@pawned79I can't really think of an equivalent relatively new sci-fi series. Honestly I've become so jaded with what the entertainment industry releases nowadays that I've kind of tuned it out completely. I spend most of my time "in the real world" so to speak.
You probably know about it already but if you want a good STEM show in general guide them toward Mythbusters. They get to learn about science and engineering while watching stuff get blown up.
This is devastating, and I'm not even a trekkie. But the ending is just too much. I hate the producers of this show I never saw. Thats Mike's sheer credibility.
I know I was late responding to this comment but I appreciate hearing that a non-Trekkie found that ending disheartening too. As a certified Trekkie I know now I can show that to a non-Trekkie to show why the hell I disliked seasons one and two of Picard so damn much. It almost felt like the creators of the show were motivated by spite for Star Trek and its fans.
Most of modern culture seems driven by spite for fans, and white men in general.@@BiggieTrismegistus
This is the closest I’ll come to watching Picard.
Wise choice, I saw the whole thing, and it was absolutely terrible.
I might watch it when I'm stoned, for the simple reason that the effects look neat for a show
Maliciousness aside, I've seen the first episode, and I'd avoid that even. I tried desperately to do other things as the hope faded from my brother's eyes.
@@drlca6601 ;(
@@drlca6601 I just fail to understand the logic of creating a show that alienates your core demographic-Trek fans. Surely they must know that the reason Netflix has kept these shows is that people are still watching them many years later. I just don't know who they think they are writing for.
"Give it a chance, it was made with love."
-Jeffrey Dahmer about his altar made from body parts
Only a rapist would confuse this atrocity with love.
@@Cyricist001 Rape isn't about lust it's about power. Don't insult rapists by saying that.
There's been an increase in hack writers begging their prospective audience to give their schlock a chance before it's even been released. When you suck so hard you have to beg people to take it easy on you because you know what you've produced is total garbage.
Ya seriously, it was made with love of..... what? ... sheer fucking hubris? :P
@@InternetMameluq Nope. Just research of who was claiming that. If rape wasn't about power, it couldn't be a tool of the patriarchy to oppress women. It's a lie.
I just saw the Kenneth Branagh movie 'All Is True'. It's pretty much the Plinkett Picard pitch, just set in the 17th Century: An ageing William Shakespeare leaves his theatrical life behind, tends his garden in Stratford-upon-Avon, comes to terms with mortality and the life that he's sacrificed for his glittering career, entertains visiting old friends from his glory days with whom he has unfinished business, deals with problems in his family and the local community (one of which he solves using a skilfully used tall tale about his time on the stage), fends off a visiting fanboy, and has candlelit meals with glasses of wine. It's a lovely, small-scale, episodic movie that absolutely would have worked as a TV series, and there's no reason why the same couldn't have been done for Picard.
When they announced that Q and Guinan would be in season 2, I gotta admit they had me a little fooled. I thought, “I don’t think STP will ever be amazing but SURELY it won’t be as bad as season 1. Maybe with those two being back some of that old Star Trek energy will be brought back.”
But apparently one episode in and they’ve already shoehorned Picard having a tragic childhood where his dad used to beat his mom as an explanation for why Picard is reserved, and it’s implied that him doing the whole Star Trek thing was just him running away from his past. Cause it’s not like he could just be doing it out of duty and for the good of humanity, right? For fuck’s sake!
Patrick Stewart's mother was abused by his father...mayhaps that's the source?
I appreciated that in the end it turned out his dad wasn't abusive. It just seemed that way because young JLP didn't understand his mother's bipolar disorder.
@@BiggieTrismegistus LMFAO i havent watched yet, I dont hate myself that much.. Probably never will. So this is now canon in my head.
@@scumbaag Don't watch it. There's *nothing* to be gained from doing so.
Wasn't it kind of already implied that he left due to bad family memories in the TNG episode "family"?
I can see now why Seth McFarlane went and made his own Star Trek with blackjack and hookers.
Good thing he did.
Everything I used to enjoy is turning/has turned to shit, but somehow, Orville came out of nowhere and rekindled good sci-fi for me.
It's funny to see the contrast between what passion does with an IP versus what high budget corporate types do.
The guy who made Family Guy is doing circles around the two major sci-fi giants I grew up loving, because he loved what they used to be.
Who knew that the best Star Trek out there is not Discovery, nor Picard, but Orville?
I want to see Picard and the captain of the Orville in a Mugen fight tbh
@Nalidus
It's the same reason I love Mandalorian and haaaate the sequels.
You can see which team had Star Wars fans and lovers versus which had people who just wanted to make a big budget movie.
They need to have fans of the franchises leading them cause the idiots they keep bringing in are clearly not interested in the IP itself, they're in it for the "prestige?" of working on certain IPs.
Just think... Ryan Johnson will forever be one of the dumb fucks that had a hand in Star Wars. The fact that he was a major part of it's decline doesn't matter.
He touched the prequels anyway... Nothing those fucks put out is canon to me.
The Orville is the best Star Trek property we've gotten in 15 years.
Just got done watching this with my wife. Her exact comment: "Wow, he must really be taking this review seriously if he hasn't mentioned Pizza Rolls or his dead wife, not even once!"
You got yourself a good one my dude
Not even pizza rolls can ease the pain this time.
@@joematthews6063 You have no idea
Watch his review of STAR TREK: The Motion Picture (if you didn't already). I'm the same age as Mike and I completely feel and understand the passion for STAR TREK. I grew up with TOS on tv - then TNG started in the early 90s (in Germany - in the US in 1987) - and I was from then on in love with STAR TREK. Yes, it's always about a certain nostalgia (something which - say - 20 year old Trek fans might not understand) - but in the end it's really about a special feeling that TNG, DS9 and VOYAGER created: An amazing future, a future, one wanted to live in - hope, optimism, enlightenment! Contemporaty TREK had been reduced to 99% action/sex/violence/drama and DYSTOPIA! I do not want to live in the world of Discovery! And the time of Picard also seems broken. AND THAT IS SAD!
@Paul Nope!
That compilation of scenes at the end says more than words ever could about how Star Trek has become. What was once intelligent, uplifting, inspiring and thoughtful has become shallow, disturbing, nihilistic and unsubtle.
You know what really hit me the hardest? The way Agnes (the blonde lady) says :" Turns out space is pretty boring.." and Rios says :" what did you expect?". Literally their stance on all good trek.
@@Eisenwulf666 See, in a better show that wouldn't even be a bad line because actual space travel is boring. The day to day on a starship in Star Trek is like the patrol route on a naval vessel. It's routine and mechanical because you've got really long distances to travel without much to do, other than your assigned tasks, and usually you don't run into anything. Doesn't make any sense in Picard, which is trying to be like Star Wars, where they're having life-or-death adventures every five minutes.
I really like your analogy at the end about the kids ruining their father's train when he was away. It's very apt. Except in this case those dumb kids ruined it after their father passed away, which is even worse.
Dude should of secured
His trains with razor wire, that’ll learn ‘em.
@@gelraldoldo5152 *should HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Please, judge the show with it's own merits"
I did, and it's awful.
"Please clap." Ya know, when you have to ask people to do something like that...then there's something wrong with your product.
Or the people promoting said product: "Please don't drink/snort/inject our bleach/cleaner/hand sanitizer."
When I was younger, I always felt I was not smart enough for old Star Trek. Now I'm glad to know I'm not dumb enough for new Star Trek.
Perfect.
This comment wins. Thank you.
Moving up in the world.
Yep. Watching TNG as a teenager was inspiring and aspirational. Now I know that the world is run by people like Kurtzman.
@@kevinjohnston4923
So true.
"On the world the humans call... Mars"
So, just Mars then? Seems unlikely that the Romulans would have a different name for one of Earth's neighbouring planets. Even if they do, shouldn't the universal translator deal with that?
Riker: "On the world Romulans call....... Remus."
Geordi: "Why did you say it like that?"
Riker: "That's what they call it."
Geordi: "That's what *we* call it, too, because that's its name!"
@@whompronnie In a show the writers call "Star Trek"
My heart broke when I learned that Patrick Stewart basically all but commissioned what ST Picard is as a show. I can't help but to lose hope that the show will morph into real Star Trek. And I've also lost a bit of respect for Mr. Stewart himself.
We now know that Stewart was just an actor and had nothing to do with the writing and direction of TNG.
@@AB-ii8st I thought that was common knowledge? TNG was a job to Stewart, and he gave it his all because he is an extremely talented professional, but he never harbored any real love for Trek.
Before or after he was the Poop emoji?
“She tries to cover up, but it’s too late, I’ve already seen everything”
@@glitchedoom that isn't what he said when he was interviewed on Top Gear. He said he was a big fan of TOS so he was thrilled when he was offered the role of Picard on TNG. It's hard to see how a fan of TOS would like this, though.
Rich has finally put his foot down and refused to talk about this any more.
Rich has no feet anymore thanks to his debilitating diabetes.
@@damienrees4993 he was waving it around like a gavel.
I can't believe Rich got the Macarena virus, the coronavirus, and pneumonia all at the same time.
Damien Rees I collapsed a lung from laughing. Rich Evans owes me hospital money for inspiring you to make me laugh so much
This comment made me laugh because it's so true.
Mike was so traumatized his other personality had to come in
Rich did the same thing, he's returned to Iowa's largest wildlife preserve to finally make that video about a Giraffe's night out in Manhattan.
@@InvaderKaz2008 get the solar radiation ready for the kids with the torrents
Dr. Stoklasa and Mr. Plinkett
mike is Jean Grey and Mr Plinkett is his DARK PHOENIX ... his midichlorian levels are off the charts
I see you're new around here
The Ben Sisko speech at the end literally was a kick in le balls. Kurtzman, you have destroyed my childhood.
Figuritively.
“Never again kill someone just because it’s what they deserve” is such a horrifying moral lesson
And also, like, duh. You can't do that now, how is it allowed in the future?
In the original series, criminals were treated as people with mental conditions who were reformed in institutions through therapy. That was the idea of the far future. That criminals were people with fundamental mental illness because there was no poverty.
It's a way they can have their cake and eat it too.
"Capital punishment is wrong" = Star Trek.
"Ultra-violent revenge fantasy" = Modern TV.
"Ultra-violent revenge fantasy but we regret it afterwards because capital punishment is wrong" = Modern Star Trek.
It how the people who write this think. And it tells you all you need to know about them.
It's like Star Trek paint on the moral attitudes of the Victorian era.
The final 5 minutes nails exactly what Star Trek is and is not.
I didn't cry, but I did get teary-eyed.
Yep!
Awesome space battles,armadas,and the passing of legendary figure as a sacrifice for somebody else!
...and then ruining it with bull crap!
Plinkett sounds like he's about to cry, his favorite show raped
my stool this morning was shaped like galactic treaty
Mark Ranger ROFL!!
This wasn't even a review, it was a eulogy. Farewell, Star Trek.. You boldly went where no one wanted you to go.
At least we have The Orville :)
I would be willing to concede that some people want to go there and that there is a market for this sort of stuff. It just isn't anything like old Star Trek. The whole space octopus plot is much more similar to Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space universe.
The Clockwork Orange reference is pretty spot on. Watching Picard is certainly a form of torture.
well said
@@Nostromo2144 Seth McFarlane's forced cringy humour still puts me off wanting to watch that.
Stewart rejecting the first draft then accepting the second.
Kurtzman: This
Stewart: Oh, dear god, no.
Kurztman: Still this, but an extra zero on your paycheck
Steward: Make it so
I've never understood this modern value system that you have to like ALL of a thing if you're a fan of it. Mike's critique of Picard comes from a place of love. As fans, we all used to be able to debate freely whether we can like something or not and having alternate viewpoints was encouraged and healthy. Nowadays even just saying Picard isn't to your liking is enough to get hordes of people coming down on your like a ton of bricks, saying we're "gatekeeping" etc... you know what, maybe when it comes to the beloved characters, maybe I want to gatekeep, because based on Star Trek Picard, these people don't understand Star Trek. But once upon a time we were allowed to have different opinions. And not liking something isn't a sign of a hater... sometimes it's a sign of someone who loves something so much that they hate to see it fail so badly.
orthodoxy always whittles down the number of acceptable viewpoints so it can pit people against each other more solidly.
I strongly suspect that in 2040 there won't be a clutch of 30 year-olds fondly remembering how they watched Star Trek: Picard or Discovery as a kid, and how it inspired them.
That is a prediction I also bet on.
the truly sad part is these same freak people aka twitter/social media obsessed types are going to be the new generation of hollywood writers/producers/directors , so each generation will get worse and worse and worse .... society is working on the same degenerate level each generation is worse than the next , you can expect Sodom & Gomorrah 2.0 here pretty soon withing the next 50 years ... it's just sad the one man who tried to end the insanity was labeled by these same global elite of elite degenerates as the most evil man to have ever lived , whatever these people say i believe the exact opposite to be true
I think I can say with confidence that no one will remember either of these shows by then.
People will stand behind any garbage from their childhood no matter how well you deconstruct its poor writing, acting, etc. Hell, the Star Wars prequels got a resurgence in popularity after the disney trilogy and those movies are terrible.
@@sailingyachtlifevsyeanonot7621 Their culture war has been successful, brother. The hourglass has been tipped; it is only a matter of time. This virus is a breeding ground for all manner of degenerate social policy bought by the tribe of elites.
Alex Kurtzman is the worst thing to happen to science fiction since L Ron Hubbard
Yeah, but L Ron Hubbards life was more interesting than anything Alex Kurtzman could make. Let’s see Kurtzman write a character that does ritual sex magic and has a boat full of corgis.
Hubbard was actually much better at writing science fiction.
@Nick F When he wasn’t pretending to be a prophet for profit, he was aight.
Hubbard was a fucking next level science fiction writing. Fucking wrote a religion into existence. Also battlefield earth.
Alex Kurtzman is the worst thing to happen to the human race since Richard Nixon
Wait so the Romulans chose the moment to attack Mars when it was building rescue ships for their own home world? 🤣
"They share a laugh and a glass of wine"
The montage of optimistic Star Trek gave me tears of hope and joy, then the montage of horrible violence gave me tears of laughter. That ending is my favorite thing you've ever done.
That ending depressed the hell out of me.
It made me feel like I was saying goodbye to an old friend.
It was fantastic. I think we all felt the same.
I miss Capt. Sisko. He may have been a harsher commander than TNG but he knew what the federation was about.
Ironically, THE ORVILLE is the only thing left presenting a future that FEELS like the original TNG future! Basically all contemporary Sci-Fi shows are just horror, violence, dystopia...
"It's a really beautifully written scene" says the guy who wrote the scene.
Yeah, their STD: Season 2 re:View also had Sonequa Martin-Green comment on how much she loved the "writing". It's almost as if the writers know they are dumb hacks who ruin franchises, and they need to blather on about their own "great writing" to cover up their insecurities.
@@gregbauer4433 In 2017, I sat down to watch the first episode of STD with genuine excitement. However, they preceded the actual episode with a 15-minute preview in which the presenters raved about how interesting the new Klingon appearance would be and how intriguing the new Klingon voices would be. Right then, before the show began, I knew that there was something very bad about the new Klingon appearances and voices: it was easy to guess that the test audiences had scorned these features. It shows how marketers operate: when some part of a product is bad, they praise that part to the skies.
@@dandeliondown7920 Sounds about right. "The empty can rattles the most", as the saying goes. I never saw that preview, fortunately. I do remember the episode itself, and I thought the endless scenes of them speaking in Klingon were about as unbearable as Chewbacca's family speaking Wookiee for what felt like the first 960 minutes of the Star Wars Holiday Special. As a kid, when I watched Star Trek I wondered "Why don't the Klingons speak Klingon when they're off by themselves?" After watching STD's first episode, I thought "Oh, that's why. It's a living nightmare."
I write better when I'm drunk.
@@mmm-mmm Reminds me of the Calvin & Hobbes strip I read where Calvin refers to giant corporations providing us with "uniform national blandness".
Just really noticed watching this. The "Synths" on Mars look almost exactly like the "Working Joes" from Alien: Isolation, rather than looking more like the Soong type Androids that it was trying to emulate. So not only did they rip off Mass Effect 3... they also ripped off Alien Isolation with the "synth" laborers going berserk...
There was also a reason why the synths in Isolation went nuts: their programming was inferior and prone to errors. Unlike this show, they weren't ripping stuff off just for the sake of it.
Perfect ending to Star Trek Picard:
Q shows up and tells Picard that he never left the Vineyard. Picard gives him a confused look before opening his eyes and understanding. Hard cut to a still shot of Picard's tombstone. Credits roll. Fin.
In the state that humanity seems to be in this series I wouldn't be surprised if Q came back and said "you have now failed the trail".
Q is back for Season 2 according to the trailers, but only to enable some time travel shenanigans.
@@kevinnio oh, wow, I'm sure they will absolutely nail that, with no time travel related plot holes whatsoever. The idea that they can just alter the past is worrying to me, but I'd wager that Q will literally be like, inviting Picard to join them and he'll walk into the light to ascend to a Q or something bizarre
I like this idea a lot. Maybe there could have been a hint established about it in the opening episode of the series - Q brings Picard a tasteful but beautiful bouquet of flowers, as a gift for an old friend he hasn't seen in ages! Picard has a what's-this-about moment with Q to establish the tone of the show, the flowers are forgotten about, and the show moves on. At the end of the series, Q shows up again to put a bow on the resolution - they laugh and share a glass of wine - and Q reaches off-shot, pulling the same bouquet back into frame, and Picard realizes the flowers haven't aged a day. Then you get the "wham" line and the end scene, with Q laying the bouquet at Picard's grave.
“I think the world _needs_ Star Trek, right now.”
I agree, Mr Stuart. It’s a shame we didn’t get it, isn’t it?
Oh, SO MUCH! We need optimism and HOPE! THAT is what STAR TREK was about for so many decades! A future to look forward to. Mankind reborn after WW3 and evolving technologically and spiritually into something BETTER. Watching Discovery and Picard is like watching people from the 21st century with all their emotional crap, drama, hate and swearing.
@@beyondlimitationsvideo Star Twitter
We did, actually, only it was named The Orville instead of something with the prefix Star Trek.
The Hollywood bugmen, who wear thick rimmed glasses and think like the Borg, don't realize the Star Trek we need would do a dressing down of THEM, not of Picard.
We got a show that reflects the present instead of one that has hope for the future.
You'll notice that there are no customary unsettling Plinkett sketches interspersed in this review. That's because they weren't needed; Picard has more than enough disturbing scenes on its own to fill that quota.
The real reason is that Rich wanted absolutely nothing more to do with this hot garbage
There are a lot of Freddie Williams sketches though!
I wanted at least one gratuitous cat meat preparation segment.
That, and lazyness, lots of lazyness
I was hoping Plinkett would kill another hooker in his crawlspace with a can of Raid, but Star Trek already did that.
The #PicardFinale was soooo perfect, I cried for an hour! Soooo emotional!
I cried too but for an entirely different reason than the people who made the show would want.
Romulans: We're gonna kill all the synthetics.
Me: That's bad don't do that.
Synthetics: We're gonna kill all organic life in the universe.
Me: Very well Romulans carry on.
Romulans: We're gonna kill all the synthetics.
Me: That's bad don't do that.
Synthetics: We're gonna kill all organic life in the universe.
Me: That's bad don't do that.
Star Trek: Discard
Ouch
Very nice
Stealing this
Very cool
Not bad
Don't ask questions. Just consume product, then get excited for next products.
I've stopped consuming product. I expect to be neutralized soon.
Consumer grooming
I would swear Will Wheaton deserves all the crap he has coming to him from selling out but, maybe he has a family to feed. I would like to think he didn't do it to maintain some sort of social relevance. I hope they paid handsomely for his soul.
I love capitalism
Media in 2020
You can't dislike this video, it would be a violation of Galactic Treaty.
WE ARE THE BORG. RESISTANCE IS...negotiable.....pffft
who did those awesome "RLM Picard" storyboards for you? Those are awesome.
Freddy Williams? That comic book artist friend of theirs? That’s his name if I’m not mistaken?
@@awonoto Yeah, I actually spotted his signature on one of them when I watched again. 😄
Cancelling CBS All Access is the happiest ending in the history of Star Trek.
It's a good ending because the fact is the reason they bother to make this stuff in the first place is to get your money. Starve them out of existence.
When you have to beg people to give your show a chance, you know it sucks.
This is the grandmaster shill. Unlocks when you reach level 99 shilling.
nuTrek fans: nuTrek is successful
Kurtzman: please give the show a chance!
TBH "Picard" sucks, but Star Trek fans are some of the fussiest, brattiest, most self-entitled fans out there, they practically invented that stereotype by embodying it
49:40 "On the world the humans call Mars" - Why would there be a native Romulan word for Mars, it's an alien solar system
That fucking montage at the end is such a bummer. Damn it, I love you Sisko.
That RLM is blocked by CBS and William Shatner is the funniest part of this whole thing
Right??? It's so petty lmao
The mods on the Star Trek subreddit aren't fans either, try and post a link to a RLM video and see it vanish at warp speed.
@@SlartiMarvinbartfast "Make it so"
@@SlartiMarvinbartfast Probably got CBS endorsed admins. It's common with most Subs about a big corporate product.
Even tho they praised Wiliam Shatner as a good Actor.
"I am the culmination of one man's dream. This is not ego or vanity, but when Doctor Soong created me he added to the substance of the universe. If by your experiments I am destroyed, something unique, something wonderful will be lost. I cannot permit that, I must protect his dream." - Data, Star Trek TNG
"I would be profoundly grateful if you terminated my consciousness." - Data, Star Trek Picard
Why not build another body for Data?
An old man who is approaching the end of his natural life gets a new android body so he can go on limping up stairs getting winded. And an android built to live forever without aging wants people to turn him off. Yep, that sounds like nu-Trek logic.
good lord, what a contrast.
Data is us, the Star Trek fan, that has seen what has become of our beloved franchise, and no longer wants to be a part of this world anymore.
@@the81kid In fairness, that's something scifi's been getting wrong for a long time across a huge number of works - this idea that the only thing that enables us to be human is that we all die. Why? Death sucks. It's a total waste of resources. Hawking died and whatever physics theories he was thinking about are gonna take longer to figure out because he's not thinking about them anymore. Same with Einstein, and Feynman. And then there's people like Carter, who's spent his post-presidential years doing almost nothing but making the world a better place through Habitat and other initiatives. He's gonna die and then there won't be any more Carter initiatives. The world will be poorer for his loss. And yeah, that's really simplified, but that's because apparently scifi writers need it simplified so they stop falling back on the tired old BS that we have to die in order to live.
Beyond that, on a personal level death also sucks, which is why we spend most of our lives pretending that we're not going to die - because the alternative is too horrifying to continually contemplate. There's absolutely nothing noble or good about death as a concept, and it's time scifi writers stop waxing on as though there is.
I enjoyed the end of this video where you remind us of what real Star Trek used to be. You give a random DS9 episode to show that many times you can lay out the full situation to an audience up-front, no secrets, and explore how the characters react to the situation and work through their feelings. So true when I watched Barge of the Dead last night, a Voyager episode and really enjoyed exploring the emotional and spiritual plight that Torres found herself in. One of the few Torres episodes of the later years and it was much better than all Seven of Nine borg stuff. Also found out after it was written by good writers Ronald D Moore and Bryan Fuller. Its the good writers that need to be brought back, not Patrick.
4:41 So they decided to use an offhanded Mr. Plinkett joke as the main plot device of Season 2. Classic.
OMG, that's nearly the same really.
season 3 with jack crusher is in there too!
Modern Trek wants to replicate the darkness of DS9 but they don't understand why DS9 was dark or how DS9 used those darker themes. DS9 was a response to how cleanly TNG resolved a lot of very complex situations. For example, the Enterprise would get two conflicting factions to sign a peace treaty and then fly off at the end of the episode. DS9 showed how problems aren't solved that easily. A treaty doesn't make decades of distrust and war disappear. Someone has to stay and deal with the nitty gritty. Someone has to rebuild the society after the war, to make sure that the treaty is enforced after the diplomats have left, to keep the peace if the treaty is broken. Picard lays the foundation for peace, but Sisko stays and roll up his sleeves to rebuild the civilization.
And DS9 never contradicted the message of TNG. DS9 never said that we shouldn't work together or try to resolve conflicts through diplomacy. The darkness in DS9 was to emphasize just how important TNG's ideals of cooperation, diplomacy, and peace are. The whole point of episodes like "Siege of AR-558" is to show how horrific war is and why we have to do everything we can to avoid it.
Discovery and Picard dials the darkness of DS9 up to 11 but it doesn't have even a fraction of the depth. They want to exist in the more complex and gritty world of DS9 but they resolved problems as easily as crappy Saturday morning cartoons, without doing any of the extra work of DS9.
KingOfMadCows Please ... stop ... using ... logic! 😂😂😂
Dude. Who said you were allowed to make excellent points and observations like this? Just shit up and consume more product. Enough of this well thought out analysis stuff. Geeze.
The way I look at it is that if new Trek did the Homefront / Paradise Lost two parter, it would've just been the first part and the main characters would be the ones sabotaging the power grid.
This is an excellent comment. The only problem is you assumed the writers of Discovery and Picard have watched Star Trek.
Nah, with this Picard thing they wanted to do something like The Expanse with mystery box. It is as bad as it sounds.
“You know what Star Trek always was missing, torture porn.”
No, it was really missing the copypasta starship porn.
I always thought Trek needed more violent murder, hate, and swearing grannies!
"Make Picard gay"
@@ChimpFromSpace "The Expanse is a very popular sci-fi show, and it has a elderly woman who swears as as a head of government. Clearly, to be as popular as The Expanse, we must have an elderly woman who swears too!" - Alex Kurtzman, probably
Eyeball scene wasn't even accurate. Icheb never had artificial eye. Look at the first VOY episode he was in as a drone..
What really hurts is, this series shows how Stewart isn't like the ideal fans graced him with when watching TNG. He obviously shared little of the traits you see with Picard's character in the OG show. When we love a character we have a habit of melding what's on screen with the actor. His obvious clout with the making of the new show lets us know how little he shared of the personality of OG Picard.
So sad.
Never meet your heroes, or watch a show they only agree to do for money and have influence in the writing of their character. It'll only reveal their true nature. Stewart has no affinity for Picard.
He's an actor. The writers should have sense to write a decent show and characters that make sense.
Hollywood television and movies are about making money. Always have been, always will be. Famous actors are out-of-touch, overpayed rich people, and all that matters to them is that they make money. If they can trick themselves into believing they are "doing good," or "making art," all the better.
Tha fault isn't theirs anymore. We are complicit in our self-delusions. We want actors to be good, nice, worthy people. By and large they are selfish trash humans. We want television to be inspiring, and transformative, but it is the opposite. It inspires in us nothing but complacency by tricking us into believing thay rich people doing make believe is life. It is not.
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Well said
Literally every Romulan ship in TNG: *Cloaks*
ST Picard: “Yo Ms. Oh, should we drop warp and approach in cloak so we can just glass the continent?” “Nah. Our final long mission is nearly complete. This is centuries in the making. Why wouldn’t we not risk it all now”
The worst part is I lost respect for Patrick Stewart
Thats what heavy usage of narcotics do to you, check it out he does take them...
Poop Emoji....
Never meet your heroes.
The writing was on the wall with that one once I saw the amnesty international commercials, was pretty clear he was generic hollywood man.
He is an actor who does paid gigs, nothing more, nothing less, really. I never forget his brilliant response in a Conan O'Brian interview. Conan mocked him for laughing at jokes of Bill Gates in some fund-raiser event. Stewart replied: "Yes, one of the world's richest men told a joke and I laughed. Oh, how I laughed!"
Remember, the only elements that make up a story are:
1. Catastrophe
2. Violence
That's it.
@DevMag 52 Batman and Robin is against the geneva convention
Mindblowing. Some of the best Next Gen episodes didn't have an ounce of violence. What are these writers on?
3. AI
StarlessSky can’t wait until the Andy Griffith reboot where he gets 100 headshots in the first 10 minutes.
Akiva Goldsman .... *shudder*
Someone on the Picard team MUST be watching Plinkett, because in Picard season two, you have Q, plays a prank on Picard, sends him to the past to deal with some 20th century bullshit. That can't just be a coincidence!
* XXI century stuff, not XX century stuff
And possibly the RLM reviews of season 1 as well. Remember how Rich said that if they were going to totally rip off Mass Effect 3, Picard would've become the new Borg leader who will stop them from being violent and lead them into a new era over life in the galaxy?
That happens in S2E9... just not with Picard.
That's also a rip off of the main point of "Beyond the Stars" from DS9, which is an actually AMAZING message based episode!
The last 15 minutes of this review were over 300,000,000,000 times more emotionally impactful than anything written for the show Star Trek Picard.
I cried butterfly tears
Fucking RIGHT ON with this comment.
I cried when data killed picard
Ode to spock
Loved when data and Picard got into that 69 by the fireside
I really hate how internet culture has taken this turn where truly caring about fiction is looked down on. People care enough about their flashy corporate consumer pigfeed media to defend a flavor of the month against criticism, but will call others deluded manchildren for caring enough to criticize it.
paid robots.... it starting like this :-)
you mean the internet that used to be a geeky nerd hub in it's early days, where people who got bullied because of their hobbies and passions could find people who understand them, got turned into a place where nerds get bullied because of their hobbies and passions, after it got flooded by the mainstream folk?
time for internet 2 I guess
You must be a Russian bot ;)
We live at a time when there's an illusion that being a nerd is fine and acceptable. What with superhero movies and such becoming massively popular, there's this "cool" notion of "oh, I'm such a nerd". But you aren't, you just enjoy watching a thing that happens to be sci-fi/fantasy or whatever. That doesn't make one a nerd.
Nerds take those things really seriously and put a lot of thought into it. So, inevitably they care about them more, they care about the internal logic of a show/film, about in universe consistency, about the plot making sense etc etc..
Average people aren't like that and most of them find it embarrassing. They always did and they still do, despite the illusion of nerd acceptance.
Dumb people can't tell the difference between quality and shit, and they are resentful that other people can.
"The Human race is a remarkable creature, one with great potential, and I hope Star Trek has helped to show us what we can be if we believe in ourselves and our abilities" - Gene Roddenbery
R.I.P Gene and your vision
Gene's vision never died. We are just seeing this abomination as the failure of our culture but not in the vision. That will always live as long as there are people who keep the ideals alive.
Alex Kurtzman makes Rick Berman look like Gene Roddenbery!
The left wing of old are just people with different ideas, they still want to improve the world, the far left are just mindless npcs with fem bots at the top who just destroys everything
@Johnnie Walker how did the "far-left" destroy star trek? You do understand that both ST:P and ST:D are products of watching the markets and realizing that action sells. And using brand recognition to sell is another easy captitalist cash-grsbbing move. If you think this is anywhere near what the far-left thinks and wants you don't know what you're talking about and have been sold a complete backwards ideology by morons who want you to be a moron and not think about anything. All of these semi-new Hollywood trends are to sell the most they can, with the least effort they can, to the most people they can. And that's the farthest thing I can think from the far-left
We got the ability to rip out eyeballs while blastin' everyone with phasers blowing thousands of people into space plus ExPLoSiOnS!!!
I want the arc where synths are made in Branson Missouri. They'd call it the Soji Tabuchi Show.
Lol yes!
Freddie E Williams II's development sketches for Picard: The Vineyard Adventures are great! They really help sell Plinkett's vision. They're expressive and very dramatic.
I pretty much comment on stuff never, but I was bummed to scroll for a bit and see no comments giving a shoutout to the awesome art.
A little late response but I totally agree. We can't have charming little adventures with smaller scopes. It all has to revolve around the destruction of Earth, a galaxy or the universe itself and include elaborate fight scenes and large space battles. Because that is what the audience wants...?!
Thank you for pointing out who drew them. I knew I'd seen their work before but couldn't figure out where.
They literally just stole the plot of Mass Effect beat for beat, right down to the dead hero being copied into a mechanical body. Oh, and the army of synthetics trying to open a portal in order to let a race of machine-god space octopi through to cleanse the galaxy.
Completely shameless.
What about when Rodenberry copied the Twilight Zone episode People are alike all over when he made the Cage? Susan Oliver plays the same character in each
@@festo8756 Right but that's just a single episode, not the plot of an entire series. And let's not forget the utter plagiarism in STD, of an indie developer no less. Both shameless and disgusting, the way that guy was treated. Kurtzman is nearly incapable of original ideas. And when he does have them, they're terrible and make no sense.
Wouldn't expect anything less from those hacks.
@@monkeymox2544 There's more plagiarism in the rest of the series. I just gave you one example. Balance of Terror is a rip-off of the movie Enemy Below. Do you want more examples?
@@monkeymox2544 The entire series of Star Trek is a rip-off of Forbidden Planet
It took me a minute to realize those pre-production sketches aren't real, and sure enough, you can see the Freddie Williams' signature in the corner. Dang, I'd rather watch Plinkett's episode ideas.
They actually had depth and things relevence to the character while probably being well contained single episodes. Which we can't have because we need big "epic" stories so people can mindlessly binge it like slop in a trough
So would all who have lived to see such times.
It's kinda upsetting because those episodes would be so much more unique and entertaining than loud space CGI. Damn money seems to win out more often than not.
Those sketches and the episode synopsis were gold. Think about it: a show that makes sense for the characters and tells simple, self-contained stories. It just might work!
Same. My brain recognized a familiar drawing style, but it took me a minute to associate it with the inflatable bear bag hugging a decapitated infant.
TNG was meant to portray a hopeful future for humanity that had grown past tribalism and greed. Humans in the federation were sophisticated and followed intellectual pursuits. The new Star Trek wants to inject as much modern politics as possible. If I wanted that I could turn on the news.
Star trek was always just "politics, but with aliens". It lost that hopeful future back in DS9 with the massive Dominion War
You can have topical, and political stuff in shows as long as it's done well. Old TNG episodes had plenty of them. Difference was that the writers were much better.
@@headphonic8I think the hope made it through the Dominion War. Barely. Think of it like World War II. Good people had to do bad things to defeat awful people. There was a hope at the end that the Cardassians at least could turn into the equaivalent of Germany and Japan: former enemies that became strong friends and allies.
I love coming back to this review just for the fun storyboards at the start. Idk who thought of those or who drew then but kudos. Woulda been a hell of a lot better than what we got
I believe the art was done by Freddie Williams.
TNG Picard after watching the first season of Star Trek Picard: _"I would rather die as the man I was, than live the life i just saw."_
*points at Alex Kurtzman* That man is bereft of creativity... and imagination!!
"You wanted to be ass deep in Romulans"
That wasn't the first season, that was from like season 5 or 6.
And I think that really shows you how much better TNG was. They had 7 seasons and the fans wished there were more!
After just 1 episode of Picard and fans of TNG were wishing there were less!
SirPatStew, perhaps paying homage to SirMikeCaine: "I have not seen the Picard show, but all accounts it's *terrible* -- but I HAVE seen the house it bought, and by my own account it's *terrific!*
That is perfect.
Mike's utter hate for nu-Trek sustains us all in these trying times
He loved, or really liked (said it made him emotional), ST: Beyond. See HItB episode.
@@arthurballs7083 Unlike KurtzTrek, AbramsTrek, if brainless, is at least harmless. And at its best, contains wistful echoes of real Trek and reminds one about how you miss the good stuff. Hence, Mike's sentiments.
I guess it feels better to reduce this entertaining analysis to "utter hate" if you don't have the brainpower to follow along and just want to join a cheering section.
could bewares ..disney doesnt own trek l;
@@arthurballs7083 Beyond was the film that Abrams and his gang of hacks called Bad Robot had the least direct involvement in with, and it was helmed by two self-admitted old-school Trek fans. And it was also easily the best of the Nu Trek films. Go figure.
I just recently rewatched Star Trek TNG all seven seasons just this month on DVD. After watching them I realized what timeless classics those episodes were. Too bad Hollywood now is too decadent, corrupt and out of touch with reality to make something half as good as that anymore. By the way, watch out for those Galactic Treaties.
Yes, can we please have a season 2 review Mr Plinkett? This show also taught me to be fearful of people who are different, especially lgbt. I’m curious what lessons season two may have.
The house has been obliterated.
What I learned most from this video, is that the house has been obliterated.
*the house has been obliterated*
Wesley shilling for this crap is too perfect.
Shut up, Wesley
He's probably hoping they'll let him come on for season 2.
Hollywood child actors...
Goes hand in hand with him being in The Big Bang Theory as a completely forced nerd-celebrity rival.
Always hated this sleazebag.
When Brent Spiner said "She's always had a passion for Vulcan culture..." He waves his hand. Literally a hand-wave explanation for how an android can perform a mind-meld.
It would MAYBE make sense for some genetically weird Romulan to be able to mind-meld because thousands of years prior they and the Vulcans had a common species/ancestor. That is really outlandish, but made more sense than what this show did.
He might as well have added "or whatever". Which is basically the standard explanation for everything in Star Trek now.
no no. You don't understand. IT IS A GALACTIC TREATY.
For a long time, people have shit on Star Trek V because it was one of the "bad" Star Trek movies, and William Shatner has often gotten a lot of shit for his ego or what not. After the TNG movies, and this Picard show though, I have a lot more respect for Shatner than I do Patrick Stewart. ST Picard cemented that he gave no shits what the series stood for, or how well TNG Picard resonated with audiences.
Shatner directed Star Trek V, and while it is one of the weaker entries in the OG cast films, that's mostly because the story could have used some ironing out. However Shatner totally understood the character, and the relationships between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. It's biggest fault is that the movie was like an episode of the original series, which is not the worst thing in the world.
Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner are fucking idiots who didn't even remember that Picard and Data were not even "best friends" or anything on the show! They just wanted the most screentime, and didn't care how they had to mold the universe to fit their wants. Data and Geordi were the close friends, and with the exception of Star Trek Generations, Geordi is completely useless in the TNG movies. The TNG movies, and ST Picard kept making it seemed like Picard and Data were lovers or some shit, when I always saw it as Picard was Data's mentor for humanity. A teacher/student relationship almost.
Pretty sure V's biggest sin is having old-ass Uhura do a sexy dance to distract the guards.
I'm just wondering why the trend is to take the most fantastical concepts of escapism and turn them into depressing reminders that people suck and reality is full of shitty people and misfortune. At least Game of Thrones starts off with that concept so you're not surprised by the tone.
I watch Science Fiction and Fantasy to remind myself that there is goodness in the world. That family is there to help you whether by blood or a family that chooses you. That while there's danger and bleakness in adventure, you persevere because you know there's a light at the end of the tunnel. You know that goodness will triumph over evil in this fantastical adventure. You're not here to be reminded that your 9-5 demands your life for as long as they can get away with it. You're not here to push the boundaries of profanity because there's more to life than just drinking, cussing and reminding everyone that life is fucking bleak. You're here because this is a world that highlights the goodness of life.
Art should be pushing you to be your best self, not reminding you of the worst. You don't need Picard for that, just take Public Transportation. Be reminded of how miserable and spiteful humanity can be without wasting your money on a subscription. Just the shitty bus ticket that does nothing to make Bus Drivers comply to the schedule.
everything has to RELATE now, according to executives. everything has to be representation, people won't watch anything that isn't their precise group they belong to. and the biggest group of all is miserable cunts.
This is depressing to watch. It feels very different from all of the other Plinkett reviews because you can feel the disappointment beyond the veil of the character.
Agreed, very sombre. In the Picard reviews you can see Mike is going through some shit. This hit him hardest out of all the disappointing turns our favourite franchises have taken of late.
Every trekkie becomes an old fart at some point :D Some of us still resist it even though resistance is....
@@princeprocrastinate6485 Mike? What about Rich in the first one 'stop shitting on star trek, man!' and he keeps saying he doesn't even want to watch anymore. Poor guy.
@@princeprocrastinate6485 One can just ignore Discovery, but it's hard watching them desecrate a character you've known and loved for years.
@@voorhee That's exactly right. I didn't like Discovery, so I never finished S1 and didn't try S2. But it didn't *hurt*. I just decided that the JJ stuff and Discovery was all in an alternate universe, and ignored it. But Picard actually does hurt. As cliche as it sounds, I was always an outcast and a nerd and a loser. I liked Star Trek, and it gave me some hope for a nicer future. And Picard was a great character, someone to aspire to be. But now...
I like (old) Star Wars and thought the sequels were awful - especially Last Jedi. But Trek was always my favourite of the two franchises. I now understand just how much TLJ and green-milk-drinking hermit Luke must have felt for the Star Wars fans.
When a series makes _LESS_ sense the _MORE_ you pay attention, you know Alex Kurtzman is involved.
Was Alex Kurtzman involved with Game of Thrones then?
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A great many plots in much better media than "Picard" make less sense the more attention you pay to them. That includes some stuff you love personally, without a doubt. Those sorts of inconsistencies start to _matter_ when other aspects of the work fail: the audience loses interest in the characters, or the tone is all over the place, or etc., and often a combination of those problems. Storytelling is an art, not a science. This is why "plot holes" sometimes matter and sometimes don't.
* cries in Michael Bay Transformers movies *
His amazing lack of skill for keeping the Audience empathetic and keeping their disbelief suspended is unreal. It's terribad to precious unknown levels of _fuck._
And this dude makes millions of dollars for this shit, along with above average aggregate scores: all the signs of a reliable fraud to be weaponized again for whatever IP needs to get more money squeezed out. And he's not big enough of a name to Joe & Sarah Six-Pack to dis/persuade viewers.
Fucking top hired gun for the Age Of Sci-Fi Homogenization. So much support that fuck ups are victories; you're just a neckbearded badthink CIS-shit _blahblahblah_ if you don't like it--be a *REAL* fan and fucking eat this dripping wet, sticky buttbutter sandwich.
I'm glad to not be a Trekkie aside from RLM analcyst. Horrible graverobbin' skullfuck screwjob: _"aw fucket, guess I'll just die even more inside"_
*CBS is an embarrassment.*
These new generation writers for Star Trek, Star Wars, and all the other franchises they've ruined don't seem to understand that characters are often the vehicle through which the themes of a story are conveyed. TNG isn't about Picard or the Enterprise specifically, it's about the Federation, but Picard is a man who embodies its ideals the best. Luke Skywalker isn't a super amazing character by himself, but through his mastery of the force and his determination to save his father from evil, he becomes the hope that the galaxy needs. Halo isn't about Master Chief. He's mostly a blank slate, and walking suit of armour, but through him you witness and participate in humanity's valiant defence against an overwhelming foe.
The creators of these franchises know what it's really about, because they conceived it, but the people who take over are elevated fans. They watch Star Trek to see cool aliens and technobabble. They think it's the surface level elements, and they think all a story needs is action and snappy one-liners surrounding characters we know and love, even if those characters are turned into husks of what they once were.
I'm just gonna say this.
We do NOT need die hard Star Trek fans in control of Star Trek. What we need is genuinely creative people in control. Alex Kurtzman is not that man.
Here's my proof. Harve Bennett who took control of Trek in the 1980s, had never really seen Star Trek. Before he started writing ANYTHING. He screened all of the original series. He took notes. Studied what worked and what didn't, and that is how he came up with the progenitor idea for what ultimately became Wrath of Khan. If we had a Harve Bennett at the helm of Star Trek Picard and Discovery, things would be a lot different and far better.
People seem to forget, at one point, Nick Meyer was involved with Discovery. He left, under shady circumstances.
It's such a tradegy, how far we culturally have fallen from the hopes for tomorrow. I'm going to say it, it is the fault of Generation X. They had a prime culture, a mostly peaceful two decades to grow up in, wanted for nothing, and yet their most famous quote is "Everything sucks." Peak cynisism... And now they are in control of films and series that were all about optimism, heroism, swashbuckling adventure. Things they have no concept of. Star Trek and Star Wars were destroyed by elements of Generation X, because verything has to suck. Everything has to be negative, depressing, violent, and nasty. Watching them sit there smugly joke about needing catastrophe and death to make good stories is stomach turning.
Star Trek deserves so much more.
Amen.
I remember when it was called "Star Wars".
I still remember when Lucas was the sole owner.
Dunkey, you don’t have to use your alternative account.
Whens your next video?
Lol
Oh Hey, you're here too? Cool.
The inspirational start trek bits at the end being followed immediately by the violence and vulgarity of Picard really drives home the fact that this show was complete trash.
The makers of the new show cannot conceptualize the future presented in Star Trek, even though it's not all that special, because they are bitter people with trash souls, and everything they make is fouled by and reflection of that trash.
The end of this video made me sad then angry. Yeah, fuck those douchebags, but I don't think Patrick Stewart really appreciated what he had been involved in all those years either.
@@Tchoukis And to think that the original series came out during one of the serious periods of the Cold War. With the fear of Nuclear Armageddon right around the corner.
@GermanCarsRule Sounds like everyone involved in big media today.
@@Tchoukis it's more cynical than that. They believe that their vision of the future is the preferred course and the correct way to reach the most viewers. All the talk of storytelling yet nothing bold or creative came from the show, just hackneyed, tired sci fi action tropes.
I'm just so relieved there are so many out there who are as devestaed by what Trek has become as I am.
I never watched Discovery or Picard because I heard they were bad and I didn't want to have a bunch of bad Star Trek in my head. I was happy with what I had. Then I saw the reviews for Picard season 3 and decided to check it out. I liked it so I thought "how bad can the first two seasons actually be? I'll watch them." I was not prepared for just how violent, stupid and not-Trek they were. I was aghast. Then I watched Discovery out of morbid curiosity and it was even worse.
I really liked Lower Decks though. The first two episodes weren't my favorite but starting in episode 3 the writers changed the dynamic between Ensigns Mariner and Boimler and it clicked for me. Underneath the over-the-top humor there's a genuine love of Star Trek at the heart of the show.
The problem with all those proposed smaller Picard episodes is that they're good.