China Cars And The Reliability Question [Car Talk]
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- China Cars And The Reliability Question [Car Talk]
It's been 4 years since Chinese car brands has entered the Philippines, bringing with them a bunch of desirable and value for money offerings. In this Car talk podcast, we ask @SoJooCars if these Chinese car brands have already proven themselves to be reliable after four years. We have Geely, MG, Maxus, Chery, GAC and other Chinese car makers that made their way into the Philippines, and it has been 4 years now. So far, we don't see any Chinese car that ahs stalled on the road, so it may be safe to declare that these Chinese carmakers are already giving reliable cars. The Chinese car brands also give longer than usual warranties, like Chery Auto who gives a 10 year warranty on the engine. The other Chinese carmakers like Geely start at 5 years warranty. Then there is the concern on parts. China is the world's biggest manufacturer of car parts, so it is quite ironic that people see these China Car brands as short in parts supply.
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Chery Auto owner here. Real value for money! 10 years or 1,000,000 kms warranty. 5 Years FREE PMS, 3 Years Free Roadside assistance!!! Worry-Free ownership and superb driving experience!
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1,000,000 kms 😂 you think we believe that crap 😂
My two preferred car vlogger above all others! Guys and Dude! Sir Joo,I just got my Cs55 na.
Thank you again for watching our videos! Congrats on your new car also 😀
Thanks to you guys for all of the positive reviews about the CS55 plus. I got it last week and dude pare wla ako masabi, the power and driving comfort is just amazing. I just hope it will last long. More power to you guys, you deserve more subs.
Thank you very much for watching our videos. Congratulations on your purchase!
Totoo yan…mas masarap pa e drive yung mga chinese cars kesa sa japanese cars…ramdam mo talaga ung refinement ng driving feeling nya…it feels driving a 2-3 million car…hindi biro
musta na changan idol
6:53 I don't get why people are so bothered by Chinese cars not having spare parts. We all know China makes almost everything under the sun right? I mean, you can even find spare parts for a "Siemens C25" from China and that is not even a well known brand of old phone. The issue here is not Chinese cars having spare parts but how the Chinese car franchisees in the Philippines would stock those parts. For people to know:
- HARI/CMPI for Changan
- SGAP for Geely
- UAAGI for Chery & Foton
- AC Motors for Maxus
- TCCCI for MG
- TAC for JAC
- Astara Philippines for GAC
- Bayan Auto for BAIC
- Solar Transport and Automotive Resources Corp for BYD
On the bright side, if not for the competition, japanese car brands with lack luster features would have monopolized and sky rocketed their prices. Thus, leaving consumers with fewer options.
Will also create more jobs for filipinos. Same with smartphone dominated by iPhone and Samsung but because of good reputation over time they became second and third best selling smartphone.
MG5 user here. Enjoying the car very much ❤️❤️❤️
Got my Changan Alsvin 6 months ago. Loving it!
Got my GAC GS4 by watching their reviews. Kudos to these two ❤️
How is the car for you? I tested it and really like it, its a bit conservative and not as techy, but i seem to notice its built quality and feel. Now i face dilemna gac gs4, GAC GN6 or CS55plus. Parang nasilaw ako sa techy ni changan, but i like to see it in a long term persoective. Also GAC uses lots of aisin parts( toyota). Hard i guess
@@CONVID-xy4ur sorry for the late reply. Before this I considered CS35, Tiggo 7 pro and Coolray and you're correct na they are more techy which is somewhat appealing. But this car is just pure comfort aside from its good looks. Plus I really considered the fact that the transmission is Aisin which is same sa ibang toyota cars and even the AC is the same brand which is Denso. Based on sa gc with other owners walang major issues noted so far. P.S. Sobrang sarap idrive kahit long drive!
Funny thing is, that was Toyota when it entered the US market and Korean cars in the PH 20 years ago. People get skeptical about Chinese cars when they buy or own Ecosports and Explorers
Ganda ng topic mga sir
Nice topic 👏👏👏
Well the Nissan Terra including the facelift originate in China. And import in China the Lift hand variant only.
The question with the China cars now a days is not the reliability but the after sales support and spare parts.
Its not about China cars. its about being relatively new here in the Philippines. As explained in the Video e kahit naman sare parts ng mga japanese brands e karamihan sa China din minamanufacture. Saka mejo exclusive pa sa mga casa ang mga piyesa ng mga NEW China brands kaya nagtatagal. Unlike known brands especially Toyota na bukod sa maraming nabili due to reliability and brand e madami gumagamit neto as taxi/PUV kaya maraming TALYER/auto shop outside casa ang namumuhunan sa parts.
Di ba magkakaroon ng problema ang pagpasok ng pyesa ng mga chinese cars dito sa pinas once na tumaas na naman ang tensyon sa pagitan ng pilipinas at china? Malaking problema yan ng mga chinese car owners pag nag kataon. Pero sa lahat ng chinese cars chery ang pinaka gusto ko.
Chery Tiggo has lot of spare parts.
noooooo
With the demand for EV/ hybrid cars increasing more Chinese cars will be coming to our shores. For the past 4 yrs in the Philippine market Chinese automakers have proven they can provide quality cars, examples are zs t, cool ray, tiggo and etc. Reliability and parts availability will be the biggest hurdle they need to overcome, in due time I believe this will improve. This is good news for Filipino consumers in the long run. Great Collab Reygan and Joo. Dude pare. Let's do this 👍😁🤟
Nice Collab!!!
Sir Reygan i am having a dilemna, i test drive GAC GS4, car felt so good, quality was so good. Problem is it looks kinda like toyota, too conservative and less techy. Doesnt mean bad naman, but now here is Changan cs55 with more stylish looks more gadgets. Lets be honest, gac being cheaper, but i believe it(gs4) makes up for what it lack by good comfort and interior build. Wich car feels better to ride and drive cs55 or gs4? If we forget about techy stuff and features.
you both are doing nice car reviews.. greeting from germany
Both of you are excellent 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It is no longer a question of quality but after sales service and parts. I have read owner stories about Geely vehicles in which couldn't be used for months just because of a relay that isn't available. A relay. Another one was for a Changan CS35. A hose of some sort. Not available for months. China may produce anything you can think of but is it readily available HERE? Are the companies handling these brands ready to import the part that you need as swift as Toyota, Mitsubishi or Honda does? I am not saying this to create hate but the way you deliver it in this video is just a bit condescending as if consumer opinion and caution is invalid and a laughing matter. It is ironic and you are right about that. It is not about your opinion but the way you deliver it guys. I have been pondering on the GAC GS4 as my next vehicle as it is clearly an awesome one but the caution remains the same.
Its unfair to directly compare lets say toyota to any chinese brands in terms of parts availability. Kahit ikaw mismo halimbawa e may TALYER/Autoshop ka e mag sstock ka ba ng geely parts (slow moving parts yan for sure) unlike Toyota parts na fast moving kasi marami na sa pinas na ganyang sasakyan at marami pa rin nabili at marami ginagamit as taxi/PUV. Syempre matagal sa chinese brands as almost all parts e sa casa mo pa lang makukuha at no choice kasi kahit maghanap ka sa banawe e order basis din karamihan ng parts. Although i must admit na PARTS shouldnt take that long to order, Kahit nga sa Lazada/shopee e kaya namang less than 1 month ang mga overseas purchase.
Yes. I saw that video. 5 or 6 people had their Geely in the repair shop for 6 months or more, but many others had no parts for 2 or 3 months. After a few years most Chinese cars fall apart
@@robmorcette4894 90% of those issues are mostly from collision and are never mechanical issues. Ofc you wouldn't drive your car if the side mirror is totally wrecked for example. If this statement "After a few years most Chinese cars fall apart" is true then we shouldn't be seeing chinese cars with more than 50k mileage lmao
@@ninjaaabunnny . I said most, not all.
@@geraldreyes7835 I see your point but it I don’t see it as an unfair comparison as a consumer. These are businesses. These are brands.
When you are in the market using your hard earned money you do it for yourself because at the end of the day we are just numbers to these companies.
It is not an unfair comparison because Toyota and those I have mentioned addressed this concern and they worked hard to make it happen. It is a competition. These Chinese brands made a very excellent improvement on quality over the years and I am hoping that they would be able to address the parts concern as well.
Part ng whole decision making process ng isang consumer yung ease of parts and service in the long run and what will be unfair is to take it against established Japanese and Korean brands just because they are good at aftersales service.
I am not even talking about availability sa mga talyer and auto shops, I am talking about the dealership service centers.
Since I got my coolray sport 2021, I made a promised to myself that I will not go back to the traditional overpriced brands anymore.
@@vrja haha 😂 you're mindset is still primitive. Keeping a car for decades is not significant anymore. Well, if you want to get stuck with that boring obsolete traditional brands then go ahead. Haha
Reygan and SoJoo are lol on you.
BTW, in the next couple of years I'm expecting my new premium Chinese EV! Lynk&Co.
@@vrjajapanese EV technology in Philippines is outdated and flopped or remove the local market. Korean and Chinese brand EVs are dominates in the market for more than years
@@vrja I know that geely doesn't have android or apple. But Korean EV technology is better than JEVs
@@vrja hahahaha apple carplay?? Just a simple mods and you'll have one!
@VR JA you cannot get those feature around 1M if it's a japs brand.
I've given up waiting for the 2023 Ford Everest 4x4. Made a reservation in Sep last year, placed my bank PO in October and so many months later, still no available unit. This is because of the priority the dealerships give to in house financing. Some will make a unit available for you as long as you are willing to shell out more dough. Even saw a post from one dealership about an impending price increase in March? Wow, talaga lang ha?
So after seeing Mr. Joo had so much fun driving the Tiggo 2.0T AWD (which he claimed can keep up wt a Porsche😊), and after lot of research online, I took the plunge and placed an order. Its not easy to discount the 254hp/390Nm of torque in a 1.7 ton vehicle at a price below 2M. Will it last long just like my Civic SiR? Only time will tell. At least the warranty on offer can't be beat, not to mention the features the car has.
Show that Ford dealership and that agent that you do not need them.
Enjoy your new and beautiful ride 🙏👍
Congrats Sir. 👍😁 Chery tiggo 5x owner, so happy with my car.
Masyadong gigil yung mga chinese car hater, de wag kayong bumili problema ba yun. Competition is always good for consumers so I don't see the point on the hate lmao.
Nice Nice Nice!!
I think engine wise okay na sila lahat..ung maliliit na pyesa lang mejo nagkakatalo.. ung korean car ko twice na napalitan ng clutch cylinder wala pang 5 years. But aside from that okay naman talaga..
Hello Guys.....
In the past, I have owned a 70 Mustang Hardtop, a 78 W123, an 89 Lancer, and a 94 Elantra.
Recently, I gifted myself a Brighton Blue 2023 MG GT Sport (上汽名爵5 300TGI 旗舰版 domestically in China) and love it.
The ride, speed, features, and good looks are worth every peso spent on it.
"Bang for the Buck" talaga Reygan。 ❤❤❤
I really want a coolray back in 2021, drive tested it I was blown by the specs. it has feels of you having a euro car with the amount of technology with it. My second option was an mg zs however, my bank at that time are charging high down-payment for Chinese cars at the end I opted to a suzuki car. Now in 2024 i seldom see geely and mg at the road compare 2 to 3 year ago. Although I had notice alot of GAC and couple of changan lately
Ps also cherry
there are still a lot of geelys on the road. apart from the coolrays, the geely emgrand is selling really well.
Thank you sir joo & sir reygan for trying to break the stigma. This is one of the reason kung bakit hesistant ako kumuha ng chinese car. Umay na sa mga toxic na noypi na paulit ulit na minamaliit yung chinese cars. I own fortuner, honda jazz, mirage and isuzu i-van pero pumunta ako kahapon sa changan para mkita yung CS55. Sobrang naimpressed ako sa build quality ,walang sinabi mga sasakyan ko in terms of premium feels. Planning to get 1 cs55 btw. Sa actual napaka ganda non nung nakita ko .
@VR JA The car you've mention are also made in China.
@VR JA BYD just took the top spot in China the other day.
More brands better competition. Medyo lazy n kasi mga mainstream brands. Laging bitin features. So chinese brands willl keep the main brands on their toes
Yung iba kasi galit na galit sa tech and safety features, yung mga tipong bumibili ng kotse tapos base model, masabi lang na may kotse.
How can you see chinese cars breaking down on the road if there are few people using them COMPARED to japanese/korean brands? have you seen any 1990s model chinese car running in philippine roads? How many cherry QQ have you seen running compared to a 1990 Toyota Small body??? It's not hating china cars but in reality, the quality and durability is not there yet for chinese cars..BUT yes they have improved in the last few years! Nice video by the way!!!
I don't know about cars getting cheaper because of Chinese cars. It seems "ALL" the cars are raising prices regardless of Chinese competition. Even Chinese cars are matching the expensive prices of known brands. That said, it is nice to have more options.
The Geely Coolray opened up the minds of many Filipinos on at least giving Chinese cars a chance, and you see it, tons of Chinese cars are on the road and you've got Chinese brands flooding over to the PH market. Now as far as reliability? Well really depends on who you ask. Pinoys in general will probably need 10 years for them to be convinced (and that their right, they should keep their standars high). And naturally, those who simply do not want a Chinese car will make all the claims that this and that, and it's a fruitless effort to change their minds. I got my coolray about 14 months ago and I still am waiting for the day that Geely and other chinese brands get the respect they deserve. So are chinese reliable? Yes, the huge chinese car market says that, so does your Iphone and every gadget you've probably owned. Is it as good as Japan? No. At least not yet. The bottom line is, just like what I said on my CS-35 review, chinese brands are changing the landscape of the PH car market (be it good or bad) and they are here to stay.
So my suggestion? Keep an open mind, if its just time that changes your mind towards chinese brands, no problem, that's an easy ask. If your own the fence, ask other people, do your research. And if you already bought a chinese car, I'll be seeing you in 5 years and lets talk.
That'll be either on the coffee shop with your CN car park outside still working well, or we'll be in the shop scratching our heads. My thinking is I'll enjoy that coffee.
Yuck chingchong cars that support ỉn harassment of our own filipino fishermen
I think if hindi dumating ung mga chinese cars hindi mag step up ang mga japanese cars in technology parts. grabe delay na delay ang tech ng japanese cars sa ph compare sa us or europe di ko alam bakit hinuhuli thats why daming naattract sa tech at price ng Chinese cars. sana dumami ang parts pra di mahirapan ang mga owners sa mga repairs.
That's a great observation! The technology on Japanese cars is so way behind that is almost unbearable to watch on car comparos against Chinese cars, let alone the price differences.
I've been saying this for a long time. Ambon ambon lang ang sa Pinas when it comes to features and tech ika nga namin. Imagine my disappointment with Nissan when I bought my 2019 mid-variant Navara that still has an old school 2 din stereo. May around view monitor pero hindi man lang naka touch screen. Don't get me started with the all-plastic interior. Even the New top-spec Nissan kicks' build is no match to the build quality and materials of its Chinese counterparts (Build lang ha).
Only time will tell
Chinese reliability isn't the issue. The concern is: "Do they have the guts to stay in the Philippines for the next 20, 30, 40, 60 years and provide service to the Filipino people even for end of life vehicles"?
Toyota had been with us for a very long time, so as other Japanese and Korean brands. A 200km or 300km Vios is an easy fix for godsake! Meanwhile I kept seeing Chinese dealerships pop open, then after a few years their dealerships are abandoned. Doesn't really spell a vote of confidence for these Chinese brands.
Correction, China is the largest automobile manufacturing in the world ! Not USA
Honestly I feel Chinese car brands will treat their cars like how Chinese phone manufacturers treat their phones... Yes the product is jam packed with tons of features for a lower price. But Chinese phones get only a max of 2-3 years of support from the manufacturer. After that, the phone becomes obsolete and it breaks down, forcing you to buy the latest model from these Chinese companies. I feel that is the same thing that will happen to these Chinese cars.
You are correct with the 3 years or maximum of 4 Android versions OTA Update(Same with Samsung BTW), but My Xiaomi Mi 9t pro is almost 5 years old. Still faster than my wife's Samsung. It's the hardware that's keeping it alive.
China is number one!
Hello ulit mga Hyeong.
Both of my two favorite car CZcamsr are together and I am about to get a JAC J7, what a coincidence. I am more confident to move to JAC now..been driving a Kia past 9 years . Kia is too expensive now . JAC J7 is affordable and has 1000 times better options than these big brand.
Salutation to both of you from Dubai 🫡
The truth is, Apple products are made in China, as are DJI drones, and both are considered quality products with class leading tech. The only issue will be if the PRC goes to war over Taiwan, which will lead to embargoes on Chinese products, and World Wide shortage of parts and tech for lots of products, not just Chinese ones, since so many products feature tech and parts from China. Also, most Chinese car makers have partnerships with Western or European car manufacturers and they have learned a lot from that.
Start doing EV cars too, coz that's the next trend
Japan, China, Korean, at Elon Musk Tesla lang ang malakas ☺️
Pogi nung isa
if you tend to hold a car for 15-20 years, mapapa isip ka. kung 5 years lang, make won't matter.
Alam mo naman ang pinoy kahit branded pa na sasakyan yan after 6-7 years nagpapalit na ng sasakyan dahil yung iba sakitin na lagi dinadala sa autoshop. Hahahaha
The question is, what do these guys drive? What cars do they have personally? Is it China cars? If not why?
Reygan bought his mom a Tiggo 7 pro. Ewan ko lang kung ano personal cars nila.
Reygan drives a mazda mx5 i think.
NO, they are not.
Reiability is a myth due to planned obsolescence. What I want to know is if they are safe.
This is a valid concern, and I'm about to find out. Wish me luck.
more safe than bare striped japanese cars.
new chinese cars now adays are loaded with lots of safety features as a bare minimum even at base variants
Yes, it is reliable, pero yung chinese cars ay most likely to breakdown. Regardless of parts mas maganda pa rin ang build quality ng ibang brand. Yung geely coolray ng ka work ko may rust issue after 1 year at bolts missing and plastic parts na d na maganda ang fits at maalog. Yun din ang reason kung bakit d ka bumibili ng chinese na sasakyan. As a youtuber mas ok po na meron kang isa para may idea tayo at ma long term review. Thanks
I agree. Or have a couple of owners of Chinese vehicles do a review with you. Someone who has had their cars for at least 3 years.
Chery Tiggo is realible.
We have a Chery Tiggo 7 and a Ford Territory. Owner update video coming soon.
@@ReygansRides Thanks! Hoping for a comparo of the 2 👍
Sir Reygan, waiting for a comparo of your mother's Chery Tiggo 7 Pro and your brother's Ford Territory. Thanks in advance! 👍😊
Not as reliable pa rin china cars, alam nmn natin yan
No. They’re good as a scrap
Wow di lang sa pinas ang may ganyang brand research ka muna.
@@audiophilehifimusic9548 they’re still scrap nonetheless 🥡🥢🤡
@@spongeboob1451 Says the food panda rider. Hoy late na order ko!
Basta geely owner pulubeng squatter
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