Saving Your Disaster Campaigns - Lothern Mega Screw Up

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Komentáře • 344

  • @marcomeme4875
    @marcomeme4875 Před 4 lety +292

    And I'm here like "if I lose one settlement I'm quitting"

  • @deiu4452
    @deiu4452 Před 4 lety +175

    Legend: "We *might* win the battle" - proceeds to win without any casualties
    Me: "I *might* win the battle" - fight comes down to lord vs lord while all the other units are dead

  • @horrocko
    @horrocko Před 4 lety +780

    This is basically one full hour of this campaign's original player getting roasted.

    • @Griffolion0
      @Griffolion0 Před 4 lety +54

      As it should be.

    • @ElGoliathWork
      @ElGoliathWork Před 3 lety +11

      @@Griffolion0 No. It should be informative, not a dick response imo.

    • @Justicar2503
      @Justicar2503 Před 2 lety +11

      @@ElGoliathWork Send it to Legend and complain about roast?

    • @BB8enjoyer
      @BB8enjoyer Před 2 lety +3

      @@Justicar2503 that's the reason we watch him/ lol

    • @sarenareth689
      @sarenareth689 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ElGoliathWork It's both informative and entertaining :) the reason we all love Legend.

  • @AvengerAtIlipa
    @AvengerAtIlipa Před 4 lety +98

    Legend: "I don't think I've ever seen a campaign more in need of saving."
    Orion and his leafy bois: "Hold our wine."

  • @anirbanbhattacharya9185
    @anirbanbhattacharya9185 Před 4 lety +136

    Omg please continue this! People want to see you truly reconquer Ulthuan. This is what Aenarion did during the Great Catastrophe.

  • @nomisloper1091
    @nomisloper1091 Před 4 lety +42

    19:50 "CEASE THAT SHITTERY"- A Legend

  • @Archon3960
    @Archon3960 Před 4 lety +28

    "- Lord Tyrion, the vortex is waning and your brother has gone on his own to fix the problem. Oh, and we also have a Drucchi beachead in Ultuan.
    - This. Is. Fine."

  • @Itgetsbetterofficial
    @Itgetsbetterofficial Před 4 lety +3

    Sea guard are actually better than spearman by a low margin. Sea guard are actually really good in place of archers because they make a solid back up line.

  • @ZerooOne01
    @ZerooOne01 Před 4 lety +160

    I really liked it - want more.

  • @michail6064
    @michail6064 Před 4 lety +350

    It's going to be fun to continue this, livestream material, guess 3-4 hours before you'll become op in this campaing

    • @evilpilott
      @evilpilott Před 4 lety +4

      I too want to see SoA doomstack in action

  • @CSStevens2015
    @CSStevens2015 Před 4 lety +22

    I’ve never liked how level 5 walls for high elves are worse than the level 4. Yes you get 7 units instead of 6 but you trade 3 LSG for 4 white lions which are trash in sieges

  • @FuelDropforthewin
    @FuelDropforthewin Před 4 lety +16

    Sea Guard are great for their flexibility. One or two units of them can chip in to shooting while the enemy hits the front line, and can then step up to fill in gaps should there be breakthrough. They work well to supplement a balanced infantry army, not to replace one.
    That's more or less my thoughts on them. Their role is to be a tactically flexible unit that starts the battle as archers and ends it by being fresh spearmen units to finish the enemy off in support of the main front line, filling both roles over the course of the battle when it is tactically at its most useful.

    • @FuelDropforthewin
      @FuelDropforthewin Před 4 lety +3

      Followup: they're decent early-mid game flank units, since they can shoot skirmish cavalry, the shielded versions are relatively good at resisting return fire, and they get spearmen benefits against being charged by said skirmish cavalry. Having a couple of units of shielded sea guard on the edges of an infantry block is not a terrible life choice, especially against marauder cavalry.

  • @SinaZarin
    @SinaZarin Před 4 lety +116

    What the hell is tyrion doing in old world is the question you should be asking here!

    • @Luthies
      @Luthies Před 4 lety +97

      United Ulthuan, went on holiday.

    • @feferson492
      @feferson492 Před 4 lety +26

      where else can he find old world cuchi?

    • @Prince__Teclis
      @Prince__Teclis Před 4 lety +16

      Finding something new to stab repeatedly I imagine.

    • @SinaZarin
      @SinaZarin Před 4 lety +9

      @@Prince__Teclis like there wasn't enough to do in ulthum

    • @Prince__Teclis
      @Prince__Teclis Před 4 lety +17

      @@SinaZarin When it comes to Tyrion, I think there is never enough to stab.

  • @bingchillingsimp5811
    @bingchillingsimp5811 Před 4 lety +20

    39:00 legend made sex sound while female rebel invader made death sound. Epic moment

  • @ryansilver4212
    @ryansilver4212 Před 4 lety +18

    I would definitely watch a part 2 to see how you clean up Lothern and if you stay in the old world or abandon Myrmidons to get back to Ulthuan.

  • @sonnguyenduc3748
    @sonnguyenduc3748 Před 4 lety +6

    Part 2 please, this “saving campaigns” so good, really hard to predict what moves will be use next, so please make a second part Legend.

  • @kielweiss3606
    @kielweiss3606 Před 4 lety +183

    Wish White Lions were buffed to be a viable stepping stone to Swords of Hoeth.

    • @llamaalpaca5563
      @llamaalpaca5563 Před 4 lety +45

      their table top counterpart has a 2+ save against missiles, which is really their biggest selling point over swordmasters. clearly it's been badly translated into the game for some balancing reason i guess?

    • @KoningFelix1
      @KoningFelix1 Před 4 lety +34

      More like White Lions of Trash :D
      Their melee defense is just too low, which gets them wiped out in auto resolve constantly.

    • @Thrynkz
      @Thrynkz Před 4 lety +16

      TBH as far as campaign goes, Swordmasters of Hoeth aren't very good either (don't get me wrong, they're my favorite unit after dragon princes and good in some situations, and leagues better than white lions who are kinda trash), a lot of the time though it's better to get spearmen and sisters of avelorn, the only case Swordmasters are better is vs Dwarfs who have magic resist and shields and against chaos who have shielded infantry.

    • @munounom8991
      @munounom8991 Před 4 lety +4

      @@llamaalpaca5563 They have no place in the game, so what balancing reasons there are Im unaware of.

    • @KoningFelix1
      @KoningFelix1 Před 4 lety +9

      Problem is Swordmasters are outclassed by other top tier units. In the late game, all you really need is Phoenix Guard, Sisters of Avelorn and Dragons. The rest is just optional.
      But my sense is the game doesn't favour high damage, low defence melee units in general. Especially using auto resolve.

  • @christiangosse8225
    @christiangosse8225 Před 4 lety +31

    definitely would love to see you stream this

  • @timwalther3294
    @timwalther3294 Před 4 lety +6

    That was fun to watch - i would love to see a continuation.

  • @joelshaffer9320
    @joelshaffer9320 Před 4 lety +3

    The rebels are big damn heroes for kneecapping Morathi's army like that.

  • @ronaldwee6787
    @ronaldwee6787 Před 4 lety +21

    yeah, please continue with the campaign. backs to the wall, against the odds then smash the Dark Elves

  • @bertsaerens
    @bertsaerens Před 4 lety

    Awesomely done. It's always great to see how you save these disaster campaigns.

  • @accountglebmsuphys4606
    @accountglebmsuphys4606 Před 4 lety +4

    Legend, keep going through this campaign!

  • @Taiken83
    @Taiken83 Před 4 lety +6

    Liked it, happy to see more episodes or as a stream, don't mind which.

  • @georgeutah4007
    @georgeutah4007 Před 4 lety +1

    that hero dancing to keep morathi's artillery from advancing is clever af. Never woulda thought of that. Awesome video man

  • @toreyzyre
    @toreyzyre Před 4 lety +1

    Very much would enjoy more of this fix

  • @tylerbaker971
    @tylerbaker971 Před 4 lety +1

    Also it was awesome talking to you for a minute. Love these videos.

  • @adeptusjoker7176
    @adeptusjoker7176 Před 4 lety +1

    This one was fantastic. I'd love to see a Part 2.

  • @winiii3670
    @winiii3670 Před 4 lety +3

    Please continue, really enjoyed it

  • @aintnomeaning
    @aintnomeaning Před 4 lety

    This one is quite entertaining/unique - I would love to see a continuation!

  • @mikfri74
    @mikfri74 Před 4 lety +1

    Very fun to watch, please continue!

  • @Nicayle
    @Nicayle Před 4 lety +3

    Would love to see more, by far the most interesting TW content in a while.

  • @alexdanailov6241
    @alexdanailov6241 Před 4 lety +3

    This was very interesting! Hopefully livestream or 2 more episodes of this one :)

  • @dapperhk-4733
    @dapperhk-4733 Před 4 lety +1

    I’d love to see this as a video series for two, maybe three episodes more, and possibly a stream to wrap things up if you think the save hasn’t been won yet.

  • @C4NN4815
    @C4NN4815 Před 3 lety

    Yeah I'd be happy to watch what happens next for sure

  • @WellWisdom.
    @WellWisdom. Před 4 lety

    I love this video format!

  • @intoxovision3121
    @intoxovision3121 Před 4 lety +1

    Legend is Legend!
    Very nice! Please continue.

  • @giannisgiannidis1908
    @giannisgiannidis1908 Před 4 lety +6

    It was really fun do an episode 2!

  • @craaazyish
    @craaazyish Před 4 lety +1

    The battle at 51:00 is so unbelievably high IQ. Subscribed!

  • @olafthemoose9413
    @olafthemoose9413 Před 4 lety +1

    Would love this to continue

  • @sheepykilly711
    @sheepykilly711 Před 4 lety

    Defo want to see some more episodes on this

  • @weawer1709
    @weawer1709 Před 4 lety

    it's fucking AWESOME!! I ve fully realized this on the moment where u won Morathi. Definitely subscription))

  • @yahoody1978
    @yahoody1978 Před 3 lety

    I don't know how you manage to creep out of the holes people throw you in.

  • @dracolich3348
    @dracolich3348 Před 4 lety +9

    Continue, I liked watching this!

  • @darkfangnightcrow
    @darkfangnightcrow Před 4 lety +5

    We definitely need a round 2 and 3

  • @cormacgodfrey2716
    @cormacgodfrey2716 Před 4 lety +1

    Just for the thumbnail this was worth a watch.

  • @maximiliangiden3340
    @maximiliangiden3340 Před 4 lety +2

    Yes please continue this

  • @arkorbravos7686
    @arkorbravos7686 Před 4 lety +1

    The lengend of the High elves must continue; to the last pointy-ear humanoid-thing

  • @martinkuchovsky
    @martinkuchovsky Před 4 lety

    the best SYDC so far, more please!

  • @SkorpionStorms
    @SkorpionStorms Před 4 lety +8

    It is really interesting, please continue. Btw there is free loot in the sea next to your current capital

    • @Prince__Teclis
      @Prince__Teclis Před 4 lety

      May not be free. May have to fight for something worthwhile.

  • @Aethgeir
    @Aethgeir Před 4 lety +6

    How are Lothern Sea Guards worse Spearmen than regular Spear-men? I've never had regular Spear-men out perform Sea Guards in melee.

    • @deni140492deni
      @deni140492deni Před 4 lety +1

      with the money spent recruiting sea guards he could have recruited 3-4 more units of archers+spearmen.

    • @Aethgeir
      @Aethgeir Před 4 lety +2

      @@deni140492deni He has the money though. I've always found the sea guard frontline - archer backline to be very potent. Whereas I find the spearmen frontline never really has the staying power to let the archers do the job.

    • @thehistorians5231
      @thehistorians5231 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Aethgeir spearmen have 50 md with martial prowess and that is a lot for a low tier unit

    • @yeetusthatfeetus720
      @yeetusthatfeetus720 Před 4 lety

      Aethgeir normal spear men are far more value for money and legend had to keep as much money as he could

  • @ericklecorbeau8341
    @ericklecorbeau8341 Před 4 lety +1

    I love this one ! It's the best i've seen !

  • @mermadone6465
    @mermadone6465 Před 4 lety

    Yes, more of this please

  • @Inquisitor_Redacted
    @Inquisitor_Redacted Před 4 lety +5

    Sea guard aren't as bad as you think. For the cost you get spearmen who have 30 less models, better stats per model, and bows with plenty of ammunition. They're great in siege's, especially offensive siege's since they can help your archers clear off the walls faster. It's a shame Tyrion doesn't reduce their cost, but high elves make so much money anyway, it's fairly easy to have a core of seaguard in your main army pretty quickly.

  • @Zoey--
    @Zoey-- Před 4 lety

    Loved this video would like to see another episode on youtube. Or a link to a stream if you continue there as I don't often check twitch.

  • @MrGhazkull
    @MrGhazkull Před 4 lety +1

    Nice Vid! Pls continue Legend 🙏

  • @InvinciblKillerQueen
    @InvinciblKillerQueen Před 4 lety

    Kinda cool to see a sort of classic seige in one of these vids

  • @kkyrezis
    @kkyrezis Před 4 lety +4

    If you open subtitles in the start it says "electrons on a wall here"

  • @maciejkaminski5787
    @maciejkaminski5787 Před 4 lety +1

    Legend part 2 pls. This is great.

  • @ZaricaLP
    @ZaricaLP Před 4 lety

    best part of this entire thing. sisters arent even what killed marathi, it was the cav. they all hit her when she entered melee

  • @bailian1110
    @bailian1110 Před 4 lety +1

    those were some nasty nets

  • @olavc.oevele1902
    @olavc.oevele1902 Před 4 lety +4

    Continue please!

  • @the_devils_jester
    @the_devils_jester Před 4 lety

    Elf-things can't kill-slay heroes? Make deal-pact with clan skryre! Ikit makes them go zapp-zapp-boom.

  • @elduderino1983
    @elduderino1983 Před 4 lety

    Yes, please. Keep this going!

  • @r1cosito
    @r1cosito Před 4 lety

    I learned this lesson the hard way and now i am a compulsive saver saving before and after i move army's so i am goood.

  • @krugerstan
    @krugerstan Před 4 lety

    I am briefly surprised every time he calls me a fucker.

  • @lincolnmyth1342
    @lincolnmyth1342 Před 4 lety +2

    Should've sailed down to teclis see if he can help

    • @Prince__Teclis
      @Prince__Teclis Před 4 lety

      @Regular Slime "I knew I shouldn't have left home..."

  • @snaplemouton
    @snaplemouton Před 4 lety +1

    YES, just yes! Sisters of Averlorn are so good. Glad to see someone agreeing.

  • @anytimeanywhere3646
    @anytimeanywhere3646 Před 4 lety

    Yes please! Another episode.

  • @Dylius01
    @Dylius01 Před 4 lety

    That final battle... magnifique

  • @cameronbradley8390
    @cameronbradley8390 Před 4 lety

    Would definitely like to see the conclusion to this video

  • @samettrabzon9558
    @samettrabzon9558 Před 4 lety

    Would like to see another episode!

  • @mattyabernethy5264
    @mattyabernethy5264 Před 4 lety +3

    more please

  • @raikbarczynski6582
    @raikbarczynski6582 Před 4 lety +2

    lothern sea guard? best elven unit without mods IMHO. well those and the eagle claws for mass unit damage

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow Před 4 lety

      Can't say I agree. Especially for Tyrion I can't think of any reason at all to use them. They don't shoot really any better than Archers and they don't hold the line any better than Spearmen. Given Tyrion's 50% cost decrease I can see zero argument for running them on his army beyond simple laziness (and if you just want to face roll over the AI and not bother trying/not caring about cost effectiveness plenty of units do that just as well or easier than Sea Guard). Alarielle also has no use for them as she wants mass Sisters. That leaves (maybe) Alith Anar and Teclis as the only two who might ever even look at them and again, they aren't much more effective than simply going archer/spear for economy or any other high tier unit for face roll potential.

    • @raikbarczynski6582
      @raikbarczynski6582 Před 4 lety

      @@Murkglow well i like to use mass hybrid units to soften the enemy up, and i play mostly with radious mod and in that mod they are really nice i think

    • @MrSpartanspud
      @MrSpartanspud Před 4 lety +3

      As a vanilla and SFO player Lothern Sea Guard are incredibly good. They don't shoot or hold the line better than their specialised cointerparts granted. But they do both at once. I can see the argument for spearmen over SG because there are more Spearmen. But often the shooting will make up for that.
      And usually the cost reduction on Tyrion is only useful early game.

    • @Murkglow
      @Murkglow Před 4 lety

      @@MrSpartanspud Cost reduction is *always* useful. If you've got excess money you can just buy another army late game (and two armies are always better than one, even one with "better" units in it). There is never a reason not to save money.

    • @charlesqdu
      @charlesqdu Před 4 lety

      They are good for the flanks in case the enemy cav get through, generally better to get more dedicated frontline and archers otherwise more cost effective and stronger in role

  • @Reaper_96
    @Reaper_96 Před 4 lety

    i would love if this was on a live stream

  • @lukeottaway5660
    @lukeottaway5660 Před 4 lety +5

    No love for Lothern Seaguard? They are one of my favourite units :/

    • @sympunny8636
      @sympunny8636 Před 4 lety +1

      Lothern sea guard cost a large amount and are slightly worse in melee than basic tier 1 spearmen (while costing more). Obviously sisters of avelorn would be even better. The trouble with the seaguard is that they're a higher tier unit that is similar to an t1 cheaper archer or spearman. They're flexible but if you just built a balanced army it'd be cheaper and more effective. Still can be fun to use i agree, but if you're playing on legendary difficulty (which he is) you need to be efficient, and lothern sea guard really aren't.

  • @TheEvilVacuum
    @TheEvilVacuum Před 4 lety

    Keep it going Legend!

  • @JoyfulUniter
    @JoyfulUniter Před 4 lety

    You'd be a decent challenge in a head to head campaign.

  • @montsaint-michel9443
    @montsaint-michel9443 Před 4 lety +1

    Yeah I understand. Possibly the strongest faction in the game, but early game is a disaster. Maintaining public order and their units are a issue in early game. They become the strongest when Tyrion gets sunfang(+3 factionwide public order), confederated with Alith Anar(+5 factionwide public order) and when you starts to recruit swordmasters.

  • @joshuachapman247
    @joshuachapman247 Před 4 lety

    Can you please continue this? This looks like a good come back story.

  • @ryanscott2814
    @ryanscott2814 Před 4 lety +1

    Keep going with it

  • @danielhammer619
    @danielhammer619 Před 4 lety +4

    Lothern sea guard bad? wtf are you on about. Slab Tyrion in an army with Lothern Seaguards and like 5 eagleclaw catapults, run him in to the enemy army and just focus fire on the AI as they charge towards Tyrion. its a spectacle to behold and the army isnt even that insanely expensive. While both archers and spearmen are better at their job than seaguards, you still need 1 archer, and 1 spearman, to do the job that 1 Lothern Sea guard does.
    Lothern sea guards are good

    • @Robert399
      @Robert399 Před 4 lety

      Why not at least replace half the sea guard with archers for lower cost and more firepower?

  • @KazeKoichi
    @KazeKoichi Před 4 lety

    Disaster Campaigns where it takes more then one battle to fix are more enjoyable.

  • @Natenator-vl6hz
    @Natenator-vl6hz Před 4 lety +1

    I want to see it continued

  • @misguided6958
    @misguided6958 Před 4 lety +4

    I love zero to hero stories, I'd watch this if you streamed it/made more videos

  • @misterfister7714
    @misterfister7714 Před 4 lety +14

    Damn why this things never heppend to me. I would like to start some sort of mission to take my empire back from far away.

  • @HolyMith
    @HolyMith Před 4 lety

    This could actually be a fucking epic fan made story line where Ultuan falls and is under the yoke of their mortal enemies, then Tyrion and a desperate band of warriors finds a new home in the Old World and gradually rebuilds the strength to retake their homeland.

  • @olegmironov5636
    @olegmironov5636 Před 4 lety +1

    Dude, make from this your lifestream campaign, if who send the save is ok with this idea. Becouse is a very good challenge, later gameplay with all good later units. Tyrion retaking Ulthuan after big fall. Very cool and challenging!

  • @sheevpalpatine2732
    @sheevpalpatine2732 Před 4 lety +4

    Man not even Jesus could save these campaigns like you do ^^ good job man :]

  • @saud8329
    @saud8329 Před 3 lety

    This was awesome. Was there a second part done by legend?

  • @simoncodrington
    @simoncodrington Před 4 lety

    Great video mate :)

  • @3ndeavor
    @3ndeavor Před 4 lety

    Need more!

  • @bartomiejsitek367
    @bartomiejsitek367 Před 4 lety +4

    What the f...one settlement

  • @Strash_
    @Strash_ Před 4 lety +10

    Huhh...usually i dont like these save disaster campaign because I fear that some people just screw up their campaign on purpose...But for some unknown reason....I kinda would like to see how this one plays out :D

    • @Thrynkz
      @Thrynkz Před 4 lety +1

      @maciejl20 Yeah, it does look like this was screwed up on purpose, Legendary difficulty and the buildings in Tor Koruali looked unchanged from what the AI would build, no Landmark either. Nonetheless, this looks like it would be a really fun campaign to watch him recover.

    • @jeffvella9765
      @jeffvella9765 Před 4 lety

      it does not matter if they are on purpose or not, the fun is in the challenge.

    • @Strash_
      @Strash_ Před 4 lety +1

      @@jeffvella9765 hmmm...Good point.

  • @JeremyHollabaugh
    @JeremyHollabaugh Před 2 lety

    The Chef Ramsey of Total Warhammer.

  • @plpatinexox9945
    @plpatinexox9945 Před 4 lety +1

    Definitely want to see you get ulthuan back

  • @kirkcrawford5091
    @kirkcrawford5091 Před 2 lety

    Was there ever a continuation of this. Would be cool to see if he managed to hang onto that province in ulthuan

  • @dawifromanotherhold4120

    Fun scenario, I like it. What I'd suggest is you could let Morathi get the last settlement and then send it to Legend. But other than that, looks fun.

  • @JimmyGuyer
    @JimmyGuyer Před 4 lety +3

    Livestream full-fix please Legend!!!