They even admit it. Right there in the lyrics of "I'd Love To Change The World, back in the 1960s: _Tax the rich,_ _Feed the poor,_ _Till there are no_ _Rich no more._ I remember doing a double-take when I heard that. Like, 'Wait, isn't the goal for there not to be any more POOR people!?'
imagine if millions had not heard JP 3 years ago. we wouldn't be able to see it, identify it for what it is, name it with simplicity, and have concrete clarity about our choices.
I know! We've had an attempted coup in the US. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are on the move. People are making death threats against teachers and school boards. Trump is now aligned with Q-Anon. Leading politicians are attacking democracy. It's absolutely awful. We need to push back against the far right and their justifiers like JP.
I am still in college studying HR. It's sad that businesses force "antiracism, inclusivity and diversity training" on their HR-teams and employees. It's fundamentally wrong.
@@Mushimiya Sorry, fundamentally they are right! The problem is the application is nearly 180 degrees from those fundamentals. Sorry to nit-pick but they are destroying language so let's keep it as best we can. Good luck out there!
Stuff like that causes problems. That makes it seem like BLM Is wrong, but not just wrong. Entirely wrong. BLM may have problems but it also has a point
JP has found a real, honorable, valuable purpose for himself to serve the world. He's great to watch, I can't believe some people fail to see the value in it.
They don't see the value because they are the Marxists he warned us about. Now we are beginning to see what they are capable of. Atleast the Marxist scum will fight for what they believe, the rest of America just go along like obedient sheep.
I can believe it. Humans are too irrational, proud, and crazy to always be reasonable and do what is right when they can simply do what is easy or feels good instead.
I have mandatory diversity and inclusion training in one week. I wonder if I will keep my job once I object to their indoctrination with some truth courtesy of Dr. Peterson...
The last thing diversity people really want is a diversity of opinions and ideas. In the words of the late, great William F. Buckley : “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
I'm so upset that I learned nothing about any of this during high school. I'm also currently an undergrad at the University of Illinois in the school of fine and applied arts... All I can say is that the ideology that's infested it truly terrifies me.
@Cunning Stunts True, people starved to death but after that harsh beginning of the regime, it wasn't the case anymore. With all the respect to actual victims of the system, the real atrocities were actually very subtle and probably not that visible for a Western person. It would take books, not just a comment to describe and explain it (in fact, it does :D) but as a person from a former socialist country, I can tell you, even though the system's been gone for 30 years, we're still dealing with damaging consequences, especially in our mindset. I'd love for young Americans to see and understand what is socialism about before they proclaim themselves marxists. Or, before they fall for the term SOCIALIST DEMOCRACY, without realising that it's oxymoron.
Professor: “I’m a Marxist” Jordan: “No, you’re just jealous because you don’t make as much as a bloody investment banker. If you were paid 4 times as much you’d be a Capitalist so fast it would make your head spin”
Try to think before you try to make an argument. Jordan Peterson has spent a more than a litle time before this lecture. Give your individual ability as a human the chance to shine too.
Except plenty of wealthy people are socialists. It's only exceptional when we think of a "bloody investment banker". That is, the notion of a wealthy person being a socialist seems weird if and only if we specifically consider the case of a person who's wealth could only have been generated through the acceptance of capitalism. It's simple confusion of cause and effect. Except that Peterson deliberately chose a situation where its easy to confuse the two.
"I can tell you if there are people around you that are attributing guilt to you because of your membership in a class, they are not your friends. In fact, they are the friends of no one and they are contributing to this intense state of political polarization and racial disharmony that seems to me to be expanding at an exponential rate. It's not good."
“If you were paid four times as much, you’d be a capitalist so fast it would make your head spin.” The essence of Marxism/Socialism captured in a neat and concise sentence.
That goes both ways though. Most die-hard capitalists aren't living at the poverty level. It really just comes down to self-interest. People in every ideological corner will invariably vote for what they feel is in their own personal or extended self-interest.
Yung Domino My advice is simple. Show up on time. Show people they can depend on you. Never think you are above doing any job, you can learn something from doing any task. Take ownership, pretend you own the business even if you don’t and do what has to be done. Take advantage of your youth. While you are young you can handle harder labor and longer hours, use that to get ahead.
Not really, in China even disgraced communist officials are burred separately from the others, and the have separated prisons too, and special fire squad when being executed.
S. X. Tan your government is authoritarian and controls every major corporation. They might not be Marxist-Leninist, or Maoist, but they definitely haven’t improved much, they are just better at keeping it quit and fooling the people
*The idea that you can target an ethnic group with a collective crime regardless of the specific innocence or guilt of the constituent elements of that group there is absolutely nothing more racist than that. Its absolutely abhorrent.* -JP
We had five centuries of entire ethnic groups being specifically targeted for abuse and exclusion. They all suffered and lost out on opportunities in that time, and the ending of that abuse and exclusion has been gradual. Wholesale discrimination against Black people is wholesale discrimination in favor of White people--two sides of the same coin. My (White) father wasn't racist, but he lived in a time where his supervisors (and the nation) were openly racist, giving him opportunities denied others. My dad didn't have to do anything to profit from racism. I didn't have to do anything to gain benefits from my dad's success. There is no guilt, but there is a reality. "Guilt" is a red herring, but JP throws that out to manipulate his audience. He moans about "resentment," but resentment is precisely what he wants from his audience.
“There’s more variability within groups of people than between groups of people, and to state otherwise is to state something that is in fact categorically racist.” -Jordan Peterson
I wish this man a speedy recovery. I watched his first update with his daughter after coming out of his medically induced coma, we need his wisdom now more than ever.
neither on the right tho... because on the right pretty much big money talks all the time, and big money only says more money.... its time to shed the whole 2 party system, and strive for a central good, that gives space for individuals, and industry, all the while protecting the poor and the voiceless.
We may not hear the word "hierarchy" from the left, but it's definitely practiced while pretending to promote equity. How else could the Oppression Olympics exist or even intersectionality? As always, some are 'more equal' than others.
Congratulations.....you scored the "top" comment. Nine words in two sentences, which seems to suggest any number things. And not only the TRUTH, but the HEART of it. ( a truthier truth???? ) Peterson's closing thought is actually three sentences. The last one is without reference, and taken literally without a baseline, is relative and meaningless. But taken together, last 20 seconds contradicts everything that came before. Making Peterson a complete self contradictory waste of time..... again. To be clear, the critical point Peterson made that exposes his self contradiction is: "You're just jealous because you're not an investment banker." It is somewhat significant that you got enough votes to rise to the top, and haven't really said anything....you COULD BE, the next Jordan Peterson. If however, it's not too much of an imposition, could you explain your sentences? 1.) If we reduced it to one, would: "That last statement IS the heart of the truth right there." still be accurate. 2.) What is the statement you are referring to? 3.) If it is not the one quoted above, how do the two taken together constitute a truthier truth? 4.) Peterson's seem to be "upset" with the "fate" of the Kulaks and claiming that Marx was responsible, but if he were logically consistent, why would he be??? After all, weren't they just jealous that they were not Stalin, or in charge, or the one's holding the gun or the whip??? After all, investment bankers are the greatest contributors to the welfare of society, make tons of money, and yet never assume any risk as it pertains to their own money, wealth, property, etc. yet, the result of their choices affect EVERYONE.......and they are TOO BIG TO FAIL, so we obviously need them to keep doing, what they're doing. Given the current economic condition of "people" on average and not being able to handle a $500, $1000 or $2000 emergency......it seems unlikely that 4x their current rate of pay, would make them "capitalists" but it might improve the likelihood of handling such an emergency. So what then is your truthier truth, or Peterson's.....enquiring minds, want to know? Not to pre-empt, your possible attempted explanation, but just in case you choose not to enlighten us, could it be that either you or he, is suggesting that if we were all "investment bankers", we would feel perfectly justified being irresponsible, sociopathic monsters who were entitled to do whatever we wanted, because we "earned it" and those who didn't are just jealous???? Historically the recognition of that set of circumstances was the basis of Marx's work.....although investment bankers hadn't arisen yet......what then is the basis of Peterson's work and or advice, if we're just jealous???? WE return you now to your REGULAR programming.....
@Mercy Hale He offers no evidence for that claim, but it is something that can be analysed. It omits a rather important detail, however. When investment bankers caused a global crisis here's what they did not say: _"Well, that's capitalism for you. We gambled and we lost. Time for our business to die"._ Here's what they did say: _"Gee, it sure would be nice if we got some good ol' socialism to help us out right about now and level the playing field by pulling us out of this 100 trillion dollar hole we got ourselves in"._
I went to a public, top-30 law school and had this DIE/white privilege nonsense forced down my throat for three years. On our first day of orientation we sat through DIE training, and we finished that by-drum roll, please-segregating ourselves into racial groups (i.e. “white,” “colored,” and “mixed”) to talk amongst ourselves about how our race had impacted our lives. This really happened. At a public, American **law school**. It was insane.
@@mvmlego1212 The curriculum. Just like all other required knowledge outside one's major (literature, art, music, foreign language, etc) meant to facilitate the formation of a well rounded, articulate, thinking, constructive individual.
@@you3001 -- Ah, so it should be required by college administrators? I'm okay with that. I just wanted to make sure you weren't saying that it should be required by the government.
@@mvmlego1212 I agree with you. If the government can madate one view today, it can (and will) mandate the opposite tomorrow. Also, sorry I got a bit snarky. Easy to grow overly defensive on here. I'll delete that part of my reply. My apologies.
in the school system that I just left, the morale regarding politics among the employees is an issue. One teacher told me that she told someone she was a Moderate/Independent and some people haven't talked to her since - over a year ago. A couple other staff members experienced something similar. Then, I myself, was attacked from a couple staff members that I don't have the same belief system. Don't get me wrong, there were some commonalities but this DIE and WPriv is completely brain washed into peoples heads. Even though I have a multicultural family with a few family members as citzens who have fled foreign countries and came here through the Asylum process (true history) - I was treated as a Racist because I don't believe in open country borders for all. I have seen people who have different ideas become silenced and those that have an opinion be forced to resign. It really is a crazy place to be right now.
My grandfather who was kicked out of his home at the age of thirteen - with absolutely nothing - managed to become one of the richest men in Kosovo, only to have all his money taken away and leaving him in poverty, at a age where he could no longer work..... *"eQuAliTy"*
8:53 "You can bloody well be sure that they're coming for the physicians and the evolutionary biologists and psychologists next." Hello, Steven Pinker.
My great-grandmother told stories about Holodomor of 1932-1933. People had to eat goosefoot weed soup, and grass, and sawdust-bread (mixed with something more edible). There were no sparrows left in the village... That was because militia took all food, crops, catle. They even cut down trees in gardens. Everything to make people more misarable, to destroy opposition, to gather them into morbid collective farmholds, where people had to work for a lifetime, because they had no right to move to cities (had no passports/IDs). Even after decades in our family (as in all other Ukrainian families I suppose) bread is considered saint, something that is not to be thrown into trash. It became built into our culture.
Most definitely. On the surface it seemed so righteous. Jordan has shone some valuable light on the concepts. My semester starts up again in 2 weeks. I will keep posted.
You have made it a lot clearer Ross, thank you. Where are these ideals stemming from? Who is pushing them into these sectors, and what is their overall purpose in doing so?
“Everyone gets to have exactly the same depth of grave [in equity]”... oof. That describes it better than any definition I’ve seen explaining the virtue of the phrase.
It’s sad that I don’t feel like I can share this on my Facebook page for fear of either losing my job or creating an immense amount of tension with my co-workers. They however, can post anything they want supporting the current prevailing vision, and I remain polite, and kind in all of our interactions.
I am so confused...was this a guest speaking at Madison, or a replay of a lecture FOR a UW class? Either way...how? As a graduate of the institution, when JP says 1 in 5 social science say they are Marxists...at UW, my assertion would be 3 in 5 would be with 1 cowering in the corner praying not to be asked so they didnt suffer the wrath.
I wish I could trade my University lecturer for JP. I came to this video to have a break from having diversity force fed to me in the name of education
Correction for Peterson: not "Ukrainian", the 'collectivisation' and killing of 'kulak' was happening all over the country, all 22 mln sq km of the USSR. On the photo with grain sacks, the inscription on the lorry says 'Kuban', which is not a Ukrainian region, it is in Russia.
@@Sergiyovych Учи уроки, Сережа. Двойка тебе пока в четверти. ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8C_(%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD). Купи "глопус" Украины и найди там Кубань.
This man is a genius, just stating facts and rolling out old numbers that stopped existing because people refuse to accept the reality of the consequences of their ideas. There's the evidence folks, read it and weep.
This message has just been posted on my University website here in Australia. An example of how much the concept of 'diversity' is being misguidedly embedded into our various social systems (I have blanked out the name of the University. However, it is a major campus in the state of Queensland). >>> *This University* is an employer of choice for gender equality, receiving a much-coveted citation from the Federal Government’s Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA). The Vice-Chancellor Professor of *This University* said it was an honour to be awarded this citation. *This University* has demonstrated its strong commitment to gender equality, ensuring that it is embedded into all of our employee recruitment, retention, development and engagement initiatives. The Vice-Chancellor states “I am firmly committed to ensuring that *This Univeristy* continues to foster an environment that supports social justice and inclusivity. “Championing diversity in the workforce, particularly in creating opportunities for talented and creative women, is something that *This University* has always promoted and encouraged. “The WEGA award recognises that and acknowledges the tremendous efforts being put in right across *This University* to create a workplace that is inclusive, wide-ranging and accepting.” The WGEA Employer of Choice for Gender Equality citation is designed to encourage, recognise and promote active commitment to achieving gender equality in Australian workplaces. The WGEA Director said she was particularly delighted to see some of the innovative and exciting initiatives by EOCGE citation holders on such issues as flexibility, paid parental leave, supporting women in leadership and addressing gender pay gaps. “I congratulate all the 2017-18 citation holders for their commitment and recognition of benefits improved gender equality can bring to their business,” she said. “These employers are setting the benchmark for other Australian workplaces to follow.” Criteria for the citation cover leadership, learning and development, gender remuneration gaps, flexible working and other initiatives to support family responsibilities, employee consultation, preventing sex-based harassment and discrimination, and targets for improving gender equality outcomes. ... *This University* goes on to outline an extensive 'Commitment to Gender Equality' statement laced with their vision for a system based on 'equality of outcome'. Read between the lines and consider what this really means for our social trajectory. Real eyes realise real lies.
Archie, I'm in the same boat mate. It's heavily embedded into my degree (Bach. of Primary Ed.) and everywhere around my university campus. Time will show the impact in the future; very interesting times we're living in.
Archie Ra this is so insidious. To a casual reader it sounds so just and wonderful... but if you REALLY read it, you’ll see that they are literally trying to unravel all of the progress the West has made
wow, jordan is so darn smart and insightful. my family lived through all that he is describing in north korea from marxist and he is so dead right. ask anyone from ukraine. in todays term ny grandfather was a dirt poor farmer who owned a lot of land that was worth nothing other than the crops he grew on it. The North wanted all of it and eventually got about half of the country but look at them now. after the war southern farmers like my grandfather eventually outproduced the northern government own land. human innovation, greed, ambition and desire for betterment will always outperform socialism. In one lifetime capitalism has transformed my family.
The "one may smile, and smile, and be a villian" quote is from Hamlet, when Hamlet realizes his father was poisoned by Claudius (his father's brother, Hamlet's uncle).
You know what I really fucking miss The days when diversity was actually about diversity of forms of fun Back in the 90s/2000s I was a teen I had mates of various backgrounds Italian, Maori, Scottish, indian You know what We didn't fucking care! We didn't care not even think about PC bullshit We cared about only two things Meeting girls and having actual fucking FUN! We didn't have racism or shit We were too busy being lads, poking fun at each other Wed call our Italian mate a garlic man, our Maori mate a haka, our Scots man a dress wearer, our Hindi descent friend a curry man You know why? We were lads trying to banter and one up each other It was a fucking laugh! We were all Australian and proud of it! But you know what we really had? Actual diversity of FUN we'd go to a concert one weekend and then a under 18s techno thing the next We'd go surfing and then have fucking bonfires and even dress up as goths and attend goth parties We did burnouts with car enthusiasts We went to movie marathons We played video games We did road trips And tried to drink alcohol and not get caught Instead of PC Pandering and focusing on multi cults Here's a crazy thought Focus on subcultures I'm a metalhead, not all my mates liked it but they came with me to a few concerts I hate golf, we had fun at putt putt Some of us were nerds secretly And we dated some hot female anime fans Focus on actual fucking fun for a change God knows these poor gen zeders need it
Effin -a right man I am from Houston tx...USA and a generation xer and yes all types all cultures and all friends ...non of these trouble-making idiots were born yet...
I'm terrified that they're now teaching this indoctrination in my step daughters Catholic private school. We took her out of public school to get away from this madness
Nothing short of prophetic. But then that's the rigour of Peterson - his knowledge - especially of Russian literature, history and Marxism - logic, facts and analysis.
@@Gito975 When he's talking about "diversity categories," he engages a slippery slope fallacy. "What about all the other potential categories?" The reason that those specific categories exist is that there is a long history of legal, economic, and political oppression that explicitly targeted those groups. For example, beginning in the 1600s, colonial (and later US) law categorized people by race while laying out specific restrictions on non-White people's rights and opportunities. In fact, the idea of "race" was largely invented for the purpose of creating legal categories of who could have economic opportunities and political rights vs. who could not. JP pretends that these "diversity" categories are arbitrary, but racial categories were invented by White people to facilitate oppression and exploitation. JP is pretending that there is no history--that it's all just made up by obnoxious activists. Absolutely false, and I am sure that he's educated enough to know that, making him a liar.
@@Gito975 He also uses a slippery slope fallacy when he argues that anyone guided by equity will inevitably commit mass murder. Absurd. Does anyone who follows his low-key White nationalism inevitably round up millions of minorities and put them in death camps a la Hitler?
KSA or DIE. If you’re a government worker or a veteran that has applied for a government job your qualifications are based upon KSA = Knowledge, Skills, Ability. DIE = Diversity, Inclusion, Equity (Equity is not the same as Equality) does nothing to prove an individual’s Knowledge, Skills and Ability to do the job. If a company feels compelled to add a DIE hiring manager or change their company logo to rainbow colors to pander to the LGBTQ group or DIE group, it’s perceived as patronizing and thus that company may have had prior discriminatory hiring practices. Bottom line…any public or private company that discriminates against a person’s race, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, economic status, veteran status or disability is in violation of State and Federal employment laws. KSA or DIE. Teach your children well.
Hamlet: O most pernicious woman! O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain! My tables-meet it is I set it down That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain- At least I am sure it may be so in Denmark.
Saying please don’t shoot me in a car or stand on my neck for 8 minutes while arresting me is not an ideology of envy. It’s a cry for justice. The same cry echoed in Germany. And the one echoed in South Africa. And the one echoed in the Jim Crow South. And the one echoed in Pol Pot’s fields. The bar is too low to be one of envy.
***Equality should always trump equity.*** "Equity" sounds like "Equality", but it is very different. "Equality" is protected by the U.S. constitution, which means everyone is treated and protected equally under the law. "Equity" means equal outcome. It is social justice equity, from critical social justice theory, related to critical theory, critical race theory(for racial equity), and neo Marxism. It is the dichotomy of the oppressor and the oppressed, privileged and disadvantaged. The totem of victimhood, and intersectionality of victimhood. Equity, critical social justice means redistribute resources. It means to strip the "unearned" wealth, advantage, and resources from the oppressor, and give it to the "deserved" oppressed. It usually practiced at identity group level. Equity practice treats different identity groups differently. Holding one group back, while allow another group to proceed, in order to achieve equal outcome. The critical social justice theory is problematic. A person simultaneously belongs to many identity groups. race, gender, sex, sexual orientation, country of origin, ethnicity, age, health, education, jobs, income, wealth, able-body, attractiveness, temperament, the list will go on and on. Even if you believe one group is "privileged", another is "unprivileged", how can you compare victimhood along different identity dimensions, like a able-bodied black person vs. handicapped white person? Who is more of a victim? The society may have to calculate victim score along each identity dimension, and assign an aggregate victim score to each person in order to decide how much advantage the society should assign to this person, or take away from this person, in the name of social justice. But here are the problem: * Does each identity dimension carry the same weight in victim score? e.g. race vs. gender? Do people agree on that? * Who is qualified, and authorized to assign such victim score? Do people agree on that? * Can group identity correctly summarized a person's life experience? * How can society continue to monitor each person's victim score to reflect the changed life experience, e.g. become disabled, or get a high paid job, etc. What is the cost of that? * Race and gender are usually quoted as a reason to provide equity. Does race and gender alone reflect full life experience of an individual with so many other identity groups the person is in? Why just race and gener? Equity, in the name of critical social justice, creates more confusions, injustices, divisions, and resentments. It is a discrimination. Equality should always trump equity.
We let you say all kinds of nonsense here. Just walk around the Square on a Saturday morning. I think the stuff on this video is nonsense, but I fully support people's right to be wrong and be vocal.
This guy is the Mr Spock of education today. I don’t necessarily agree with every word, but his concepts, constructs, logic are generally impervious to counter-argument. Amazing display of logic. I do the same, but he goes whole new level that I envy!
Misrepresentation of equity. I agree that reaching for equality of outcome is problematic, however, when you consider equitable satisfaction you no longer run into the envy issue because you aren't aiming for the same outcome. You are aiming for an outcome that satisfies your needs. With this in mind, outcomes can be dramatically different but produce a similar level of satisfaction. Black people don't want what white people have, except the liberty to pursue, through comparable effort, a satisfactory life.
I would love to hear his commentary on how emerging capitalists/merchants and the transatlantic slave trade had the same impact on masses of innocent African peoples by approaching things with the very opposite of ideologies. I would say that rampant individualism is just as dangerous as rampant equity. The middle is where we find our "utopia." In addition to what he says at the end I always like to say, "Everyone is a right winger when they get their check on Friday, but everyone is a lefty when someone expects them to come in on Saturday." Lets quit pretending that extremes ever work and agree that both sides have something to offer.
Admirably profound and articulate; akin to a book that was profound and articulate in its delivery. "Rising From Within: Unlocking Your Innate Power to Conquer Adversity" by Vincent Starling
Jonny Lupus Nope. It’s probably you tuning with empty dreams. You talk he is Beast just because he is realist. Sorry, but I really don’t have sympathy for dreamers. They are boring, idealistic and full of contempt for what it is. Peterson is realist.
Here in the U.S. grade schools are funded based on a tax system: the property value of the houses surrounding that school. Studies show that students from wealthy school districts far out-perform those from poor schools and surrounding neighborhoods. Disadvantage is built right into the system from a very young age. The funds available to a public school should have nothing to do with the value of the homes in that neighborhood. This systematically puts children at the mercy of forces beyond their ability to control, and rise up out of. If we truly cared about equal opportunity, public schools would be funded equitably. Don't even tell me for a second that being born poor and attending an impoverished school is not a factor in an individual's success. Individualists like JP like to push this notion that all individuals have an equal shot at rising to their ability. Prove to me that the playing field (academic opportunity) is equal from the start, then we can begin to have a conversation about individual merit. Meritocracy is a lie pushed by the likes of people like JP who harbor deep hatred of progressive values and any efforts to make this world a better place for all.
@@before120 Wow, say no more... your very sad bigotry and lack of understanding of the holism of human life (holistic/wholistic/Holy, all of the same origin) has you blind to the nuanced truth of the inter-connectedness of behavior to our environments (especially the environments we were raised in). Much of our behavior, unless otherwise deliberated via awareness of the nature of, is conditioned, automatic, and unconscious, especially when there's very scarce material resources to meet the basic needs of human biological life first and foremost before then having the luxury of advancing to the pursuit of higher ideals and values such as cooperation and peace rather than violence. Violence is a behavior that is interrelated to many facets of our reality, racial traits sometimes happen to be one of those facets... why? Why do you think? I'd like to let you think about it so that you practice more nuanced thinking capacities, but I'll put it this way: change our environments, change our behavior, especially the environments of young children whose brains and nervous systems will not develop properly without a safe and secure environment on a consistent basis with minimal threat of danger lurking nearby. Now, have you ever spent some time with Black families in any inner cities of the U.S.? If not, maybe you should take a field trip and do some studying so you can pursue knowledge and free your mind from the violence of bigotry and racism that plagues humanity and keeps us primitive and hateful of mind and spirit.
JP is one extremely intelligent man. I am quite happy to see he was able to make this speech and make it out of Madison Wisconsin alive with all the far left liberals who go for blood whenever anyone disagrees with them or speaks truth to them.
All is great. One note: Kulaks and Holodomor did not just happen in Ukraine. It happened in Russia and what is now Kazahstan. My grandmothers famaly were living outside of St. Petersburg and were sent way up north for working hard and heaving more than their neigbour. She was about 14 then. I have a lot of respect for the speaker but this correction must be made. Bolshewiks did not kill based on nationality but based on class.
"The ultimate minority is the individual, and the fairest societies are the ones that allow the individual to rise to their ability." Jordan Peterson
it's inspired from Ayn Rand I believe
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Only half of this quote is from Rand but I think it may originate with Plato.
Inspired from Carl Jung as well
@@vikinginsane6770 Rob Hall may disagree but my Greek history is minuscule and I haven't studied it for decades.
cc - "All men are create equal." Thomas Jefferson 1776
"They didn't love the poor, they hated the rich."
They even admit it. Right there in the lyrics of "I'd Love To Change The World, back in the 1960s:
_Tax the rich,_
_Feed the poor,_
_Till there are no_
_Rich no more._
I remember doing a double-take when I heard that. Like, 'Wait, isn't the goal for there not to be any more POOR people!?'
AlexReynard that one always confused me too. To further muddy the water I could never tell is it was sarcastic or sincere either
@@AlexReynard Except coke-snorting rock stars, of course.
How did they get rich 😳
@@lauma4207 typically hard work or inheritance
It's actually quite astounding that things have gotten much much worse since the time this video was uploaded. I'm just beside myself.
imagine if millions had not heard JP 3 years ago. we wouldn't be able to see it, identify it for what it is, name it with simplicity, and have concrete clarity about our choices.
Take action and organize!
I hear you. My wife and I ask, are we living in a weird dream? Is this America?
what do you mean by that?
I know! We've had an attempted coup in the US. Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are on the move. People are making death threats against teachers and school boards. Trump is now aligned with Q-Anon. Leading politicians are attacking democracy. It's absolutely awful. We need to push back against the far right and their justifiers like JP.
Every corporate CEO AND HR team should be forced to watch this 8 times a day for 1 month. It might save the corporation.
you nailed it there James P. !
To see is not to understand and learn.
I am still in college studying HR. It's sad that businesses force "antiracism, inclusivity and diversity training" on their HR-teams and employees. It's fundamentally wrong.
@@Mushimiya Sorry, fundamentally they are right! The problem is the application is nearly 180 degrees from those fundamentals. Sorry to nit-pick but they are destroying language so let's keep it as best we can. Good luck out there!
It’s gotten really bad in Tech
Is anyone watching this while BLM is spreading white guilt?
Stuff like that causes problems.
That makes it seem like BLM Is wrong, but not just wrong.
Entirely wrong.
BLM may have problems but it also has a point
Yes
BLM cannot spread white guilt. It can spread a grievance. Reaction to that grievance is owned by the audience.
BLM is a marxist organization capitalizing on the movement’s publicity at the moment. The founders openly stated it in an interview a few years back.
@@arnavrawat9864 What point?
JP has found a real, honorable, valuable purpose for himself to serve the world. He's great to watch, I can't believe some people fail to see the value in it.
He tried his best to warn us
They don't see the value because they are the Marxists he warned us about.
Now we are beginning to see what they are capable of. Atleast the Marxist scum will fight for what they believe, the rest of America just go along like obedient sheep.
I can believe it. Humans are too irrational, proud, and crazy to always be reasonable and do what is right when they can simply do what is easy or feels good instead.
He’s OBVIOUSLY a far right Nazi white supremacist transphobe misogynist duh! Let me know if I left anything out
He's arrogant, belligerent, condescending, fallacious, and intellectually dishonest. Plenty to dislike.
I have mandatory diversity and inclusion training in one week. I wonder if I will keep my job once I object to their indoctrination with some truth courtesy of Dr. Peterson...
Lol, I hope it went well, bro xD
BearYourSuffering
Too late now I suppose but I would sggest you keep that shit to yourself.
The last thing diversity people really want is a diversity of opinions and ideas. In the words of the late, great William F. Buckley : “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
Freedom of speech, ah...
Fuckin run away
I'm so upset that I learned nothing about any of this during high school. I'm also currently an undergrad at the University of Illinois in the school of fine and applied arts... All I can say is that the ideology that's infested it truly terrifies me.
Get out while you can.
Don't sell your self to get through that cesspool.
@ihategoogle
That's futile.
Keep your kids out of public schools.
At whatever the cost.
I did it and I'm a lowly blue collar worker.
@Cunning Stunts True, people starved to death but after that harsh beginning of the regime, it wasn't the case anymore. With all the respect to actual victims of the system, the real atrocities were actually very subtle and probably not that visible for a Western person. It would take books, not just a comment to describe and explain it (in fact, it does :D) but as a person from a former socialist country, I can tell you, even though the system's been gone for 30 years, we're still dealing with damaging consequences, especially in our mindset. I'd love for young Americans to see and understand what is socialism about before they proclaim themselves marxists. Or, before they fall for the term SOCIALIST DEMOCRACY, without realising that it's oxymoron.
A few hours south is better freedom. Don't wait to long.
I hope you aren't paying for a fine and applied arts degree??
Professor: “I’m a Marxist”
Jordan: “No, you’re just jealous because you don’t make as much as a bloody investment banker. If you were paid 4 times as much you’d be a Capitalist so fast it would make your head spin”
Try to think before you try to make an argument.
Jordan Peterson has spent a more than a litle time before this lecture.
Give your individual ability as a human the chance to shine too.
Except plenty of wealthy people are socialists.
It's only exceptional when we think of a "bloody investment banker".
That is, the notion of a wealthy person being a socialist seems weird if and only if we specifically consider the case of a person who's wealth could only have been generated through the acceptance of capitalism.
It's simple confusion of cause and effect.
Except that Peterson deliberately chose a situation where its easy to confuse the two.
@@paulsmart4672 I believe the term is champagne socialist
@@tcskips There being a cutesy name for it should serve as clue.
"I can tell you if there are people around you that are attributing guilt to you because of your membership in a class, they are not your friends. In fact, they are the friends of no one and they are contributing to this intense state of political polarization and racial disharmony that seems to me to be expanding at an exponential rate. It's not good."
“If you were paid four times as much, you’d be a capitalist so fast it would make your head spin.”
The essence of Marxism/Socialism captured in a neat and concise sentence.
That goes both ways though. Most die-hard capitalists aren't living at the poverty level. It really just comes down to self-interest. People in every ideological corner will invariably vote for what they feel is in their own personal or extended self-interest.
That's good
@Vincent Cuttolo 18 year old in the same boat here. Couldn't agree more
Yung Domino My advice is simple. Show up on time. Show people they can depend on you. Never think you are above doing any job, you can learn something from doing any task. Take ownership, pretend you own the business even if you don’t and do what has to be done. Take advantage of your youth. While you are young you can handle harder labor and longer hours, use that to get ahead.
@@gurgy3 pretty damn good advice, thank you
To be fair, Communism did create many of the most egalitarian spaces ever created...
Mass graves
AKUJIRULE not really the guards v the prisoners is a pretty radical separation
Not really, in China even disgraced communist officials are burred separately from the others, and the have separated prisons too, and special fire squad when being executed.
S. X. Tan your government is authoritarian and controls every major corporation. They might not be Marxist-Leninist, or Maoist, but they definitely haven’t improved much, they are just better at keeping it quit and fooling the people
S. X. Tan *quiet
You... aren't wrong...
*The idea that you can target an ethnic group with a collective crime
regardless of the specific innocence or guilt of the constituent elements
of that group there is absolutely nothing more racist than that.
Its absolutely abhorrent.* -JP
We had five centuries of entire ethnic groups being specifically targeted for abuse and exclusion. They all suffered and lost out on opportunities in that time, and the ending of that abuse and exclusion has been gradual. Wholesale discrimination against Black people is wholesale discrimination in favor of White people--two sides of the same coin. My (White) father wasn't racist, but he lived in a time where his supervisors (and the nation) were openly racist, giving him opportunities denied others. My dad didn't have to do anything to profit from racism. I didn't have to do anything to gain benefits from my dad's success. There is no guilt, but there is a reality. "Guilt" is a red herring, but JP throws that out to manipulate his audience. He moans about "resentment," but resentment is precisely what he wants from his audience.
“There’s more variability within groups of people than between groups of people, and to state otherwise is to state something that is in fact categorically racist.” -Jordan Peterson
That's one of the segments where he's the most intellectually dishonest.
@@jonmcalister1802how so?
I hope JP comes back with more lectures. He is a great intellectual and professor.
He’s on tour now….
“Expanding at an exponential rate”.
Wasn’t that prescient.
I wish this man a speedy recovery. I watched his first update with his daughter after coming out of his medically induced coma, we need his wisdom now more than ever.
Envy is poisonous.
So too is greed, gluttony, sloth, wrath, pride, and lust.
We rarely hear the words meritocracy, hierarchy, or freedom on the left.
neither on the right tho... because on the right pretty much big money talks all the time, and big money only says more money.... its time to shed the whole 2 party system, and strive for a central good, that gives space for individuals, and industry, all the while protecting the poor and the voiceless.
today05 I agree but I think the focus of OPs comment is on the left because they’re the majority
@@today05 Thus, Libertarianism was born lol
We may not hear the word "hierarchy" from the left, but it's definitely practiced while pretending to promote equity. How else could the Oppression Olympics exist or even intersectionality? As always, some are 'more equal' than others.
Fuuuuuck that last statement! Heart of truth right there.
Congratulations.....you scored the "top" comment.
Nine words in two sentences, which seems to suggest any number things.
And not only the TRUTH, but the HEART of it. ( a truthier truth???? )
Peterson's closing thought is actually three sentences. The last one is without reference,
and taken literally without a baseline, is relative and meaningless.
But taken together, last 20 seconds contradicts everything that came before.
Making Peterson a complete self contradictory waste of time..... again.
To be clear, the critical point Peterson made that exposes his self contradiction is:
"You're just jealous because you're not an investment banker."
It is somewhat significant that you got enough votes to rise to the top, and haven't
really said anything....you COULD BE, the next Jordan Peterson.
If however, it's not too much of an imposition, could you explain your sentences?
1.) If we reduced it to one, would: "That last statement IS the heart of the truth right there." still be accurate.
2.) What is the statement you are referring to?
3.) If it is not the one quoted above, how do the two taken together constitute a truthier truth?
4.) Peterson's seem to be "upset" with the "fate" of the Kulaks and claiming that Marx was responsible,
but if he were logically consistent, why would he be??? After all, weren't they just jealous that they
were not Stalin, or in charge, or the one's holding the gun or the whip???
After all, investment bankers are the greatest contributors to the welfare of society, make tons of
money, and yet never assume any risk as it pertains to their own money, wealth, property, etc. yet,
the result of their choices affect EVERYONE.......and they are TOO BIG TO FAIL, so we obviously need them
to keep doing, what they're doing.
Given the current economic condition of "people" on average and not being able to handle a $500, $1000
or $2000 emergency......it seems unlikely that 4x their current rate of pay, would make them "capitalists" but
it might improve the likelihood of handling such an emergency.
So what then is your truthier truth, or Peterson's.....enquiring minds, want to know?
Not to pre-empt, your possible attempted explanation, but just in case you choose not to enlighten us,
could it be that either you or he, is suggesting that if we were all "investment bankers", we would feel
perfectly justified being irresponsible, sociopathic monsters who were entitled to do whatever we
wanted, because we "earned it" and those who didn't are just jealous????
Historically the recognition of that set of circumstances was the basis of Marx's work.....although
investment bankers hadn't arisen yet......what then is the basis of Peterson's work and or advice,
if we're just jealous????
WE return you now to your REGULAR programming.....
@Mercy Hale He offers no evidence for that claim, but it is something that can be analysed. It omits a rather important detail, however. When investment bankers caused a global crisis here's what they did not say: _"Well, that's capitalism for you. We gambled and we lost. Time for our business to die"._ Here's what they did say: _"Gee, it sure would be nice if we got some good ol' socialism to help us out right about now and level the playing field by pulling us out of this 100 trillion dollar hole we got ourselves in"._
I went to a public, top-30 law school and had this DIE/white privilege nonsense forced down my throat for three years. On our first day of orientation we sat through DIE training, and we finished that by-drum roll, please-segregating ourselves into racial groups (i.e. “white,” “colored,” and “mixed”) to talk amongst ourselves about how our race had impacted our lives. This really happened. At a public, American **law school**. It was insane.
The only good thing is that you obviously weren't taken in by it.
This should be required viewing for every college freshman.
Required by who?
@@mvmlego1212 The curriculum. Just like all other required knowledge outside one's major (literature, art, music, foreign language, etc) meant to facilitate the formation of a well rounded, articulate, thinking, constructive individual.
@@you3001 -- Ah, so it should be required by college administrators? I'm okay with that. I just wanted to make sure you weren't saying that it should be required by the government.
@@mvmlego1212 I agree with you. If the government can madate one view today, it can (and will) mandate the opposite tomorrow.
Also, sorry I got a bit snarky. Easy to grow overly defensive on here. I'll delete that part of my reply. My apologies.
@@you3001 -- All good. I think I'm so accustomed to uninhibited vitriol that I didn't even notice any snark in the last comment, lol.
in the school system that I just left, the morale regarding politics among the employees is an issue. One teacher told me that she told someone she was a Moderate/Independent and some people haven't talked to her since - over a year ago. A couple other staff members experienced something similar. Then, I myself, was attacked from a couple staff members that I don't have the same belief system. Don't get me wrong, there were some commonalities but this DIE and WPriv is completely brain washed into peoples heads. Even though I have a multicultural family with a few family members as citzens who have fled foreign countries and came here through the Asylum process (true history) - I was treated as a Racist because I don't believe in open country borders for all.
I have seen people who have different ideas become silenced and those that have an opinion be forced to resign. It really is a crazy place to be right now.
Wow! Forced to resign?
My grandfather who was kicked out of his home at the age of thirteen - with absolutely nothing - managed to become one of the richest men in Kosovo, only to have all his money taken away and leaving him in poverty, at a age where he could no longer work..... *"eQuAliTy"*
When equity is motivated not by compassion to the poor but hatred of the rich...
Jeez. He really unsheathed his sword here. Solid 👍🏻
What are you talking about? His pants were on the whole time
@@gunide Underrated reply. XD
Gunide The sword of his tongue.
These are not words being spoken, but spears being thrown. This is an inspirational genius at his best, for the betterment of all.
Damn I wish I had a teacher like that in college!
One of the best 15 minutes of anything that I've ever heard
8:53 "You can bloody well be sure that they're coming for the physicians and the evolutionary biologists and psychologists next." Hello, Steven Pinker.
What do you mean with Steven Pinker?
More like, "goodbye, Steven Pinker"...
My great-grandmother told stories about Holodomor of 1932-1933.
People had to eat goosefoot weed soup, and grass, and sawdust-bread (mixed with something more edible). There were no sparrows left in the village...
That was because militia took all food, crops, catle. They even cut down trees in gardens.
Everything to make people more misarable, to destroy opposition, to gather them into morbid collective farmholds, where people had to work for a lifetime, because they had no right to move to cities (had no passports/IDs).
Even after decades in our family (as in all other Ukrainian families I suppose) bread is considered saint, something that is not to be thrown into trash. It became built into our culture.
".... ideologically rigid pseudo-educational nonsense." Fucking beautiful.
Universities going broke, the faster the better!
I currently study a Bachelor of Education in Australia and the concepts of diversity and inclusivity are heavily embedded in many of our courses.
Archie Ra resist it
Most definitely. On the surface it seemed so righteous. Jordan has shone some valuable light on the concepts. My semester starts up again in 2 weeks. I will keep posted.
What values and ideals should we be embedding in our Education system in Australia?
I know Jordan Peterson mentions it often. Could you better explain 'equality of opportunity rather than outcome'?
You have made it a lot clearer Ross, thank you. Where are these ideals stemming from? Who is pushing them into these sectors, and what is their overall purpose in doing so?
Why Marxism? The will to power. Favorite quote: "The individual is the ultimate minority."
Thanks Jordan, we need more people like you in education
“Everyone gets to have exactly the same depth of grave [in equity]”... oof. That describes it better than any definition I’ve seen explaining the virtue of the phrase.
Many of Peterson's points demonstrated perfectly by the grievance studies affair - Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose.
context?
It’s sad that I don’t feel like I can share this on my Facebook page for fear of either losing my job or creating an immense amount of tension with my co-workers. They however, can post anything they want supporting the current prevailing vision, and I remain polite, and kind in all of our interactions.
I am so confused...was this a guest speaking at Madison, or a replay of a lecture FOR a UW class? Either way...how? As a graduate of the institution, when JP says 1 in 5 social science say they are Marxists...at UW, my assertion would be 3 in 5 would be with 1 cowering in the corner praying not to be asked so they didnt suffer the wrath.
Having to do DIE training at work, and after watching this, I can't help but tilt my head back and laugh at how fallible our minds are.
Yeah, look at all the suckers hoodwinked by his nonsense.
Marxist: Give me everything you have. I'm too lazy to work for it!
Capitalist: Over my dead body.
Marxist: OK
couldnt be a more apt description of what is happening in the western world right now, especially in america
Oh!
So this is what my community college is implementing through our school.... "come to our diversity, equity, and inclusion meetings"
"You don't necessarily have to account for methodology when you have personal experience to count on!" hahaha I love it!
10:30 "It's not white privilege, it's majority privilege" - good point.
I wish I could trade my University lecturer for JP. I came to this video to have a break from having diversity force fed to me in the name of education
Darth Vader
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Correction for Peterson: not "Ukrainian", the 'collectivisation' and killing of 'kulak' was happening all over the country, all 22 mln sq km of the USSR. On the photo with grain sacks, the inscription on the lorry says 'Kuban', which is not a Ukrainian region, it is in Russia.
That where you live?
Hi from St. John's, NL, Canada.
Kuban was part of Ukrainian SSR before Crimea was included
@@Sergiyovych Учи уроки, Сережа. Двойка тебе пока в четверти. ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%8C_(%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD). Купи "глопус" Украины и найди там Кубань.
I love Jordan Peterson so much he’s from my city and went to my school!!
Very much looking forward to Peterson coming back
This man is a genius, just stating facts and rolling out old numbers that stopped existing because people refuse to accept the reality of the consequences of their ideas. There's the evidence folks, read it and weep.
What’s never pointed out in the ball game and the fence is they could PAY to get into the park and all have a seat.
"Dwell on the past and you'll lose an eye. Forget the past and you'll lose both eyes." - Russian proverb, as recited by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
3 years plus this man has spoke on the dangers of DEI. He saw it coming with terrifying clarity.
This message has just been posted on my University website here in Australia. An example of how much the concept of 'diversity' is being misguidedly embedded into our various social systems (I have blanked out the name of the University. However, it is a major campus in the state of Queensland).
>>>
*This University* is an employer of choice for gender equality, receiving a much-coveted citation from the Federal Government’s Workplace Gender Equality Agency (WGEA).
The Vice-Chancellor Professor of *This University* said it was an honour to be awarded this citation.
*This University* has demonstrated its strong commitment to gender equality, ensuring that it is embedded into all of our employee recruitment, retention, development and engagement initiatives.
The Vice-Chancellor states “I am firmly committed to ensuring that *This Univeristy* continues to foster an environment that supports social justice and inclusivity.
“Championing diversity in the workforce, particularly in creating opportunities for talented and creative women, is something that *This University* has always promoted and encouraged.
“The WEGA award recognises that and acknowledges the tremendous efforts being put in right across *This University* to create a workplace that is inclusive, wide-ranging and accepting.”
The WGEA Employer of Choice for Gender Equality citation is designed to encourage, recognise and promote active commitment to achieving gender equality in Australian workplaces.
The WGEA Director said she was particularly delighted to see some of the innovative and exciting initiatives by EOCGE citation holders on such issues as flexibility, paid parental leave, supporting women in leadership and addressing gender pay gaps.
“I congratulate all the 2017-18 citation holders for their commitment and recognition of benefits improved gender equality can bring to their business,” she said.
“These employers are setting the benchmark for other Australian workplaces to follow.”
Criteria for the citation cover leadership, learning and development, gender remuneration gaps, flexible working and other initiatives to support family responsibilities, employee consultation, preventing sex-based harassment and discrimination, and targets for improving gender equality outcomes.
...
*This University* goes on to outline an extensive 'Commitment to Gender Equality' statement laced with their vision for a system based on 'equality of outcome'.
Read between the lines and consider what this really means for our social trajectory. Real eyes realise real lies.
Archie, I'm in the same boat mate. It's heavily embedded into my degree (Bach. of Primary Ed.) and everywhere around my university campus. Time will show the impact in the future; very interesting times we're living in.
Archie Ra i
Archie Ra this is so insidious. To a casual reader it sounds so just and wonderful... but if you REALLY read it, you’ll see that they are literally trying to unravel all of the progress the West has made
wow, jordan is so darn smart and insightful. my family lived through all that he is describing in north korea from marxist and he is so dead right. ask anyone from ukraine. in todays term ny grandfather was a dirt poor farmer who owned a lot of land that was worth nothing other than the crops he grew on it. The North wanted all of it and eventually got about half of the country but look at them now. after the war southern farmers like my grandfather eventually outproduced the northern government own land. human innovation, greed, ambition and desire for betterment will always outperform socialism. In one lifetime capitalism has transformed my family.
The "one may smile, and smile, and be a villian" quote is from Hamlet, when Hamlet realizes his father was poisoned by Claudius (his father's brother, Hamlet's uncle).
You know what I really fucking miss
The days when diversity was actually about diversity of forms of fun
Back in the 90s/2000s
I was a teen
I had mates of various backgrounds
Italian, Maori, Scottish, indian
You know what
We didn't fucking care!
We didn't care not even think about PC bullshit
We cared about only two things
Meeting girls and having actual fucking FUN!
We didn't have racism or shit
We were too busy being lads, poking fun at each other
Wed call our Italian mate a garlic man, our Maori mate a haka, our Scots man a dress wearer, our Hindi descent friend a curry man
You know why?
We were lads trying to banter and one up each other
It was a fucking laugh!
We were all Australian and proud of it!
But you know what we really had?
Actual diversity of FUN
we'd go to a concert one weekend and then a under 18s techno thing the next
We'd go surfing and then have fucking bonfires and even dress up as goths and attend goth parties
We did burnouts with car enthusiasts
We went to movie marathons
We played video games
We did road trips
And tried to drink alcohol and not get caught
Instead of PC Pandering and focusing on multi cults
Here's a crazy thought
Focus on subcultures
I'm a metalhead, not all my mates liked it but they came with me to a few concerts
I hate golf, we had fun at putt putt
Some of us were nerds secretly
And we dated some hot female anime fans
Focus on actual fucking fun for a change
God knows these poor gen zeders need it
Effin -a right man I am from Houston tx...USA and a generation xer and yes all types all cultures and all friends ...non of these trouble-making idiots were born yet...
Jordon Peterson is the modern day equivalent of ancient Greece's Kassandra
"if you would be paid 4 times as much you would be a capitalist so fast it would make your head spin"
absolutely perfect quote to end this on
"payed"
@@jamesmcinnis208 thanks for the correction, english is not my first language and i hear it more than i read or write it
@@jamesmcinnis208 then again you did not correct me you pointed out my mistake so sorry if that was confusing
@@middox239 It's like "say" but NOT like "play." Good old inconsistent English.
Diversity, Equity, Inclusion - three different words that mean the same thing, QUOTAS!
Dr Peterson like u say resentment takes people spiraling down beyond recognition.
I'm terrified that they're now teaching this indoctrination in my step daughters Catholic private school. We took her out of public school to get away from this madness
Nothing short of prophetic. But then that's the rigour of Peterson - his knowledge - especially of Russian literature, history and Marxism - logic, facts and analysis.
We NEED professors like this in EVERY college!!
Exactly, thanks for speaking an unpopular version of the truth.
You mean the ONLY real version?
I just love how he patiently and swiflty disintegrates illogic arguments
Typo? Did you mean "degenerates into illogical arguments"? He's very good at backfilling his lies and fallacies with bravado.
@@jonmcalister1802 give me an example
@@Gito975 When he's talking about "diversity categories," he engages a slippery slope fallacy. "What about all the other potential categories?" The reason that those specific categories exist is that there is a long history of legal, economic, and political oppression that explicitly targeted those groups. For example, beginning in the 1600s, colonial (and later US) law categorized people by race while laying out specific restrictions on non-White people's rights and opportunities. In fact, the idea of "race" was largely invented for the purpose of creating legal categories of who could have economic opportunities and political rights vs. who could not. JP pretends that these "diversity" categories are arbitrary, but racial categories were invented by White people to facilitate oppression and exploitation. JP is pretending that there is no history--that it's all just made up by obnoxious activists. Absolutely false, and I am sure that he's educated enough to know that, making him a liar.
@@Gito975 He also uses a slippery slope fallacy when he argues that anyone guided by equity will inevitably commit mass murder. Absurd. Does anyone who follows his low-key White nationalism inevitably round up millions of minorities and put them in death camps a la Hitler?
@@jonmcalister1802wow.
KSA or DIE.
If you’re a government worker or a veteran that has applied for a government job your qualifications are based upon KSA = Knowledge, Skills, Ability.
DIE = Diversity, Inclusion, Equity (Equity is not the same as Equality) does nothing to prove an individual’s Knowledge, Skills and Ability to do the job.
If a company feels compelled to add a DIE hiring manager or change their company logo to rainbow colors to pander to the LGBTQ group or DIE group, it’s perceived as patronizing and thus that company may have had prior discriminatory hiring practices.
Bottom line…any public or private company that discriminates against a person’s race, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, economic status, veteran status or disability is in violation of State and Federal employment laws. KSA or DIE. Teach your children well.
"One may smile, and smile, and be a villain" - Hamlet, Act I, scene v, 105-109
equity is equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. equality of outcome is fundamentally motivated by resentment and impossible to achieve.
Hamlet:
O most pernicious woman!
O villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables-meet it is I set it down
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain-
At least I am sure it may be so in Denmark.
Lest we forget.
Bravo! Best rant ever! You tell 'em, Jordan.
Good thing everyone paid attention to the warnings.
If only a wise man had ever said before,
“*The love* of money is the root of all evil.”
This ideology is rooted in envy. There's a reason that envy is one of the sins that stops people from entering heaven. Even on a figurative level.
Saying please don’t shoot me in a car or stand on my neck for 8 minutes while arresting me is not an ideology of envy. It’s a cry for justice. The same cry echoed in Germany. And the one echoed in South Africa. And the one echoed in the Jim Crow South. And the one echoed in Pol Pot’s fields. The bar is too low to be one of envy.
@@Flexican409 give me a break more whites and Mexicans are killed by cops than you people...
***Equality should always trump equity.***
"Equity" sounds like "Equality", but it is very different. "Equality" is protected by the U.S. constitution, which means everyone is treated and protected equally under the law. "Equity" means equal outcome. It is social justice equity, from critical social justice theory, related to critical theory, critical race theory(for racial equity), and neo Marxism. It is the dichotomy of the oppressor and the oppressed, privileged and disadvantaged. The totem of victimhood, and intersectionality of victimhood. Equity, critical social justice means redistribute resources. It means to strip the "unearned" wealth, advantage, and resources from the oppressor, and give it to the "deserved" oppressed. It usually practiced at identity group level. Equity practice treats different identity groups differently. Holding one group back, while allow another group to proceed, in order to achieve equal outcome.
The critical social justice theory is problematic. A person simultaneously belongs to many identity groups. race, gender, sex, sexual orientation, country of origin, ethnicity, age, health, education, jobs, income, wealth, able-body, attractiveness, temperament, the list will go on and on. Even if you believe one group is "privileged", another is "unprivileged", how can you compare victimhood along different identity dimensions, like a able-bodied black person vs. handicapped white person? Who is more of a victim? The society may have to calculate victim score along each identity dimension, and assign an aggregate victim score to each person in order to decide how much advantage the society should assign to this person, or take away from this person, in the name of social justice. But here are the problem:
* Does each identity dimension carry the same weight in victim score? e.g. race vs. gender? Do people agree on that?
* Who is qualified, and authorized to assign such victim score? Do people agree on that?
* Can group identity correctly summarized a person's life experience?
* How can society continue to monitor each person's victim score to reflect the changed life experience, e.g. become disabled, or get a high paid job, etc. What is the cost of that?
* Race and gender are usually quoted as a reason to provide equity. Does race and gender alone reflect full life experience of an individual with so many other identity groups the person is in? Why just race and gener?
Equity, in the name of critical social justice, creates more confusions, injustices, divisions, and resentments. It is a discrimination.
Equality should always trump equity.
The man seen this all coming...why didn't we heed his warnings!!!!
Diversity
Inclusion
Equity
The acronym that I will remember "DIE"
I have noticed so many of these highlighted acronyms on CZcams it’s rediculous.
I can believe they let you say all that in Madison, Wisconsin. Way to go.
We let you say all kinds of nonsense here. Just walk around the Square on a Saturday morning. I think the stuff on this video is nonsense, but I fully support people's right to be wrong and be vocal.
Same. Graduated UW Madison in Poli Sci in 2013 and very few professors were anything but left leaning . Kudos to UW for this invite
This guy is the Mr Spock of education today. I don’t necessarily agree with every word, but his concepts, constructs, logic are generally impervious to counter-argument. Amazing display of logic. I do the same, but he goes whole new level that I envy!
Shockingly, beautifully brilliant! The perfect slam-dunk!
Misrepresentation of equity. I agree that reaching for equality of outcome is problematic, however, when you consider equitable satisfaction you no longer run into the envy issue because you aren't aiming for the same outcome. You are aiming for an outcome that satisfies your needs. With this in mind, outcomes can be dramatically different but produce a similar level of satisfaction. Black people don't want what white people have, except the liberty to pursue, through comparable effort, a satisfactory life.
And the words "comparable effort" is important if one accepts responsibility for their own failures!
How can you assume to know what black peoples want. Identity politics again and again.
bs every time there is more of something in life for us they cry!!!
I would love to hear his commentary on how emerging capitalists/merchants and the transatlantic slave trade had the same impact on masses of innocent African peoples by approaching things with the very opposite of ideologies.
I would say that rampant individualism is just as dangerous as rampant equity.
The middle is where we find our "utopia."
In addition to what he says at the end I always like to say, "Everyone is a right winger when they get their check on Friday, but everyone is a lefty when someone expects them to come in on Saturday."
Lets quit pretending that extremes ever work and agree that both sides have something to offer.
Equality.. "All are equal in death."
Also, I like the acronym, as it is only fitting.
Please take a look at South Africa and offer an opinion regarding the State we are in Economically.
Diversity
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Hold up
I find it odd that critical thinking can make you rich these days
Because it's now rare...
Because it’s a rare commodity
I am included as an oppressed minority in attractiveness. I am waiting for compensation from the government.
Admirably profound and articulate; akin to a book that was profound and articulate in its delivery. "Rising From Within: Unlocking Your Innate Power to Conquer Adversity" by Vincent Starling
Is he auditioning for the role of Beast?
Jonny Lupus Nope. It’s probably you tuning with empty dreams. You talk he is Beast just because he is realist. Sorry, but I really don’t have sympathy for dreamers. They are boring, idealistic and full of contempt for what it is. Peterson is realist.
Watching in 2020 as the world proves JBP 100% correct, again!!
The ultimate minority is the individual.
Here in the U.S. grade schools are funded based on a tax system: the property value of the houses surrounding that school. Studies show that students from wealthy school districts far out-perform those from poor schools and surrounding neighborhoods. Disadvantage is built right into the system from a very young age. The funds available to a public school should have nothing to do with the value of the homes in that neighborhood. This systematically puts children at the mercy of forces beyond their ability to control, and rise up out of. If we truly cared about equal opportunity, public schools would be funded equitably. Don't even tell me for a second that being born poor and attending an impoverished school is not a factor in an individual's success. Individualists like JP like to push this notion that all individuals have an equal shot at rising to their ability. Prove to me that the playing field (academic opportunity) is equal from the start, then we can begin to have a conversation about individual merit. Meritocracy is a lie pushed by the likes of people like JP who harbor deep hatred of progressive values and any efforts to make this world a better place for all.
Though your own people or black folks usually perpetuate their own inequality by destroying their neighborhoods and therefore property values so...
@@before120 Wow, say no more... your very sad bigotry and lack of understanding of the holism of human life (holistic/wholistic/Holy, all of the same origin) has you blind to the nuanced truth of the inter-connectedness of behavior to our environments (especially the environments we were raised in). Much of our behavior, unless otherwise deliberated via awareness of the nature of, is conditioned, automatic, and unconscious, especially when there's very scarce material resources to meet the basic needs of human biological life first and foremost before then having the luxury of advancing to the pursuit of higher ideals and values such as cooperation and peace rather than violence. Violence is a behavior that is interrelated to many facets of our reality, racial traits sometimes happen to be one of those facets... why? Why do you think? I'd like to let you think about it so that you practice more nuanced thinking capacities, but I'll put it this way: change our environments, change our behavior, especially the environments of young children whose brains and nervous systems will not develop properly without a safe and secure environment on a consistent basis with minimal threat of danger lurking nearby. Now, have you ever spent some time with Black families in any inner cities of the U.S.? If not, maybe you should take a field trip and do some studying so you can pursue knowledge and free your mind from the violence of bigotry and racism that plagues humanity and keeps us primitive and hateful of mind and spirit.
JP is one extremely intelligent man. I am quite happy to see he was able to make this speech and make it out of Madison Wisconsin alive with all the far left liberals who go for blood whenever anyone disagrees with them or speaks truth to them.
The acronym DIE was hysterical
I work for a large bank in the U.S. that is constantly pushing this garbage down our throats. Just wondering if anyone here works for that same bank.
It's infected nearly all major corporations.
Came here, looking up Bridge DEI. . .scary
All is great. One note: Kulaks and Holodomor did not just happen in Ukraine. It happened in Russia and what is now Kazahstan. My grandmothers famaly were living outside of St. Petersburg and were sent way up north for working hard and heaving more than their neigbour. She was about 14 then. I have a lot of respect for the speaker but this correction must be made. Bolshewiks did not kill based on nationality but based on class.
Wow. Poor Gran!
The individual is the ultimate in intersectionality! Love it.
Truth articulated ✔
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