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I found many things out about the Anne Frank books that is actually even more fucked up but in a different point of view and way. The girl whose picture is claimed to be Anne Frank yea that is Hitler's first girlfriend when Hitler was a kid. That was not Anne Frank. There was not girl named Anne Frank for those books. The guy who originally wrote the books was a Nazi leader who over saw military operations of supplies and had no connection to the war front nor connection to the camps either. The truth is the guy made up the stories and millions upon millions of Jews believed the stories were 100% fact when in fact not one is true at all because he admitted that they were blatant lies and just stories because he thought he could make a bunch of money. His son took over the writing process of making the books after the original writer died and the original writers son wrote the books until he died in 1983 and the original writer's son passed down the operation to his son who wrote the books until he died in 1997 and then the grandson's son wrote books until 2004 and stopped the entire franchise and went into writing scripts for video games. The entire Anne Frank franchise is a bunch of lies that made an actual Nazi family extremely rich. Hell the original writer's middle name was named after his uncle named Frank and his neighbor he had a crush on and would peep on her changing was named Anne.
This is why we need GOD to set us free from the evil within us we are born with a terrible nature because of sin but Jesus died to set us free from that nature and gives us the Holy Spirit to overcome the sin nature
I watched an interview with a Holocaust survivor once and she talked about the family that took her in, and when the interviewer asked her if she’d do the same thing for them she said “ I don’t know, I don’t think so” it takes a lot to be that honest with yourself
The problem is that a lot of people would be shamed for saying that. If you allow yourself to understand the true nature of humans and how we can all be monsters, the majority of people who believe themselves to be saints will ostracize you for not keeping up the same facade. So it becomes a self perpetuating cycle of people being pressured into ignorance and then enforcing that ignorance onto others to keep up appearances. And then those people who believe themselves to be saints end up being the most cruel simply because they have allowed themselves to be so unaware of how the world and humans work that they cannot comprehend the consequences of their own actions.
It's the worst lie we tell as human beings, the lies we tell ourself. It's the lie that leads you spiraling out of control, leads you to situations you never imagined, It's the road that leads to hell. I think JP covers this in his rule "Tell the Truth"
Indeed, because they've never looked truth in the face. There's a lot Peterson says i dont agree with, but he has an awful lot of painful psychological lessons that i agree with.
Me civics teacher told me Jordan Peterson was a racist nazi so I went to see what that kind of point of view could possibly see and I end up finding an amazing person haha
@@arhamsaa JP is extremely anti-totalitarian. It doesn't take long to figure this out from listening to him. Although I don't always see eye to eye with JP, he's very adept at breaking down "established" structures and present a diametrically different perspective and let people see how shallow their perception were.
IIRC, he became "notorious" by disagreeing with a then proposed law in Canada "requiring" people to use an individual's preferred pronouns. He never said he wouldn't at all, but he wanted individuals to ask him first.
The fact that so many people fail to realize that they just might be the bad guy is astonishing to me. I'm equally amazed how people allow themselves to be victimized as well. Watching this in September of 2021, and seeing the things going on around the world give me great fear of what's to come in the near future.
Everyone sees them self as the hero and there’s people going around trying their best to victimize themself as a defense mechanism when we’re all tossed into a melting pot of grey areas as flawed humans who are biased and hold different fundamental values altogether.
Yep. To see people police their neighbours in the interests of the state, dispensing with their rights and freedoms in exchange for promises of cleanliness as they scapegoat a segment of the population for all their problems...hello old friend, it's been a while.
We have fought multiple civil and world wars in the west and even put an end to open slavery worldwide so that everyone can walk around with a taste of freedom of choice here in the west. Don't forget where you're from and don't talk down parts of history that shouldn't be forgotten. We have more good people in the world than you think. If we had more bad then open slavery would still be going on in the west today. Lest we forget.
@@stephenwebster9875 I think you're missing the point. It isn't that people are either good OR bad, it's that everyone has the potential for malevolence within them, and we ought to be mindful of that lest it get the better of us in a moment of naivete or pretentiousness. Because if you define yourself as the de facto "good guy", you can easily wind up doing terrible things under the impression that you're justified because you're fighting evil, or morality is on your side, or the ends justify the means, etc.
"Never under estimate ones OWN proclivity for malevolence". This lesson is a big step toward both personal humility and responsibilty and should be taught with examples.
My grandfather did, strangely enough. He was an incredibly talented man, and a socialist. He summarised patents for Werner von Braun's consumption, and rewrote scientific gobbledegook into formal administrative german, so that the scientists could procure what they needed. He worked on the rocket project until 41. It then came under the auspices of the SS, and he refused to join. So he spent the rest of the war on the Crimean and then six years in a Russian prisoner of war camp. All this left him strangely untouched. But when his wife died of cancer in the seventies, that broke him. I still remember hearing him cry himself to sleep every night when I visited him ...
Jim Bo .....or angry....angry that your rich history, culture, and civilization is under threat of extinction....such as making generation upon generation of Germans pay for one generation’s actions....until that country simply destroys itself through modern politics
If the 1% and/or the political elite keep going in the way they are, marginalising the population, rampant corruption, leaning towards tyranny and authoritarianism, the thing is going to happen again.
I’m atheist, democratic and do have several difference of opinions on some of the topics he talks about but after coming across his talks recently, he’s really opened my eyes on the other sides of issues as well as respecting ones stances! He’s incredibly well spoken and makes you think. I think it’s wrong blindly following every word you hear and he makes me critically think on the topics I stand on. Mad respect to this guy 👍
Funny thing, NSDAP built some of their ethno-racism on the philosophy of Johann Gottlieb Fichte who was actually fired from the University of Jena for defending atheism.
@@ACM-sp1gh Its a very broad term. Fascism in Italy and here in Germany back in the day werent intertwine-able though the core principles seems to be conservatism married with nationalism. The term has become so deeply associated with Nazism though that its original Mussolini founded concept has somewhat vanished. For me, the modern definition of "American" Fascism can be seen in action when you put on CNN.
@@nickystyles868 Actually, it isn't conservatism mixed with nationalism. It's socialism mixed with nationalism. Nazi Germany was a Socialist state. The state controlled everything, social norms and the economy. The individual was allowed to operate his own enterprise but only at the behest of the state. If you step out of line and buck the state, you lose everything. You exist for the state and that includes your business. China, today, is the closest country to a Fascist state we have. Socialist to the core. You can become a billionaire in China but only if you strictly follow the mandates of the state. Step out of line and it's gone.....all of it. To get an idea of how the Nazis controlled the economy, read the book "My Father's Country". A deep insight into being a German in a Nazi dominated nation. It appears to be conservative but it actually isn't if you read that and then read the book "The Road to Serfdom". Things will begin go come together. What's interesting is how Frederic Hayek, a man who lived in that time and was from Austria, like Hitler, just assumes that Nazi Germany was Socialist, as if it were common knowledge. Something happened to our perception of the political nature of Nazi Germany since then.
@@JackHaveman52 sounds a lot like feudal ownership. The Duke or Baron is allowed to thrive at the command of the King. The Founding Fathers went away from that.
@Foolie75 It's been years, and I _still_ can't figure out what the hell is wrong with the Peterson fanbase. What a bunch of repressed, combative, spiteful little pricks. Grow a sense of humour while you're busy cleaning your room.
@@fds7476 Well yeah, a fanbase is dogmatic by definition. These people are the loudest and with Peterson in particular it is clear that this phenomena could even be a bit more pronounced as by supporting his "unpopular" position they are often excluded a priori from whatever argument they might be debating. This makes them frustrated.
This reminds me of a story at my high school. When I was 12 years old I had a task at my high school to write an essay about Greco-Persian War. For some unknown reason, I wanted to do something different from anyone else in the classroom and I came out with an idea to write about Battle of Thermopulae from the perspective of a Persian ordinary soldier. When my teacher asked me why I chose to write an essay from the villain's point of view I couldn't come up with anything better than saying that it is statistically much higher probability that I would have been in a larger army during that war
@@Redrosewitch Thank you so much! Yes, I was marked really good for this essay since my teacher appreciated creative thinking out there. I have to also give a credit to her since she was really passionate about the subject and made a huge impact on my interest in history and desire to learn, afterwards
@@glenpeting8552- Well put! And to the OP, what a remarkable insight for a 12 year old! I pray that you’ve continued to both nurture and share that gift!
This level of thinking in this age is remarkable. You couldnt know at that time but Xerxes in his reforms has surpassed his era. You have challenged the good vs. bad label and with this thinking you have surpassed your age. Hope you are doing well and using your talent.
I know... Me too... This video was from 3 years ago... it makes it easier to see why so many have fallen for it and insult people like you and me speaking out against what is happening
loonie women keep raising the next generation. If father puts his foot down on anything, off to family court with a false accusation thats beleived. feminists saturate every organisation and any valid criticism is considered abuse.
This was mine lol....... The only people that would not have been a Nazi as a nazi Germany citizen would be dead ones . Your ether a nazi or off to the camps with you. I dont know anyone that would say no to an SS Storm trooper when he asked . Are you a Nazi ? Other than religious people with powerful morals and 90% of those said yes to .
yet I'm not a nazi yet. falsifying documents, refusing mandates and speaking out against the company that is the Australian government. Mabey I woulda been killed early. but ur wrong on man. preaching to the world about cleaning ur room. whilst Urs was a pig sti , drug addict
@Aussie Pom bro you’re so clueless and out of touch with Australian politics then🤦♂️ In aussieland my guy we prefer if the government has control but we just don’t particularly like politicians and most of the time you’ll find that we don’t care for our “freedoms” if they’re for the greater good
You can’t break a man the way you break a dog or a horse the harder you beat a man the taller he stands. -The jackal Believe it or not I knew that off the top of my head
It is. Dr P himself said that a safe man is a very dangerous man that has it under voluntary control. So I imagine that to even try to be good, you have have to know your monster and control it.
NO ONE has or would even offer you the unvarnished truth about history. That's the hard part about being a historian. If you're not looking at it from every possible angle you have no idea what you're talking about, and even if you DO you'd better believe you don't have it entirely right. Major historical events are amalgams of thousands, or even millions of individual human beings.
To say "You would have been a Nazi", even if it's accurate, leaves a mighty wide range of possibilities between Reinhard Heydrich and Oskar Schindler. If I were a German during WW-II and I owned a business I would have been a member of the Nazi Party. Duh. Or if I'd been a village dog catcher.
@@realistic.optimist Except they're not. They're written by history book writers. Much of what we know about the Vikings comes from the monks they took as slaves. The Mongol conquests were recorded by Chinese and Middle-Eastern witnesses. German generals wrote numerous books after WW2, yet the Russians published comparatively little. History is sometimes written by the winners, but it has almost nothing to do with them being winners.
@@cass7448 Lmao, yes they are written by the victors, might even say by the survivors. Someone who has died can not tell his story. Historians on the winner's side write the books, the texts of the losers have been discarded for ages. Your school will always teach you the other side is/was bad, they do not portray the situation from a neutral position. Keep that in mind. Even Herodotos influenced his works with the glory of the Greek while diminishing the power of other 'worlds' which we'd call countries/kingdoms up to this day. Why? Because the worldview of the Greek was that Greece was at the center of the universe.
I have been working with a counselor to overcome some anger management issues. One thing I have prided myself on, if I can even say that, is that since childhood I have always taken my anger out on things and not people. One day recently I was so angry I had a impulse to strike my wife. In an instant I went from intense rage to complete remorse, and fear of myself. It changed me deeply. Some kind of monster I didn’t know existed woke up inside me and it terrified me. Funny enough, that was a turning point on my anger issues and it seems to have helped me finally gain some kind of consistent control. Seeing my inner monster and just how destructive I have the capacity to be has redeemed me in a strange way.
"There is no substitute for character." What an absolutely precise and simple quote. I deal with this in my work all the time. I watch guys become perpetrators all the time and you look like the crazy one for having morals and ethics. I spend so much time making sure I'm doing right by the customer first when I see other guys in other industries do the same thing they immediately get my repeat service. Fortunately there are enough guys in my work who are the same way or I'd have probably quit that job by now.
The thing is that Jordan Petersen's character is rotten so I really don't understand how he could ever be taken seriously when talking about other people's character.
I read Ordinary Men after listening to one of his lectures years ago. It was a really tough read, terrifying in the way it made me reflect. I had to read it several times, trying to accept that we all could’ve been one of them, or something like it. Being someone who has lost the will to do good. I find it to be an almost impossible thought. I certainly got the point though, thanks to careful review of Jordan’s lectures on it.
I made this argument against my mum and sister once and they couldn’t see my point. I argued to them that had we been born in the south in the US in the 1800’s we’d almost definitely have been racist and they disagreed saying they’d have been nice to the slaves and would help them. Absolute bs, it’s how they were raised back then
Good point, but I'd argue if they had been born anywhere in the US in the 1800s, they would've most likely been racist. Racism definitely wasn't confined to the South.
Very true that. I think that's why I have such contempt for the neo-putitans and the virtue signalers. They think they're so good and morally superior when in actual fact they're just mere mortals like the rest of us but they think they're basically Jesus.
You’re clearly not well-read on the history of antebellum America. Tocqueville wrote extensively about America’s racial tensions and prejudices, in which case he identified the Northern states, not the Southern states, as the general perpetrators. Indeed, it was only upon Reconstruction that these tensions and prejudices swept entirely across the Southern states.
Its not almost certain you'd of been racist- it would be much more certain that you'd be _indifferent_ to racism- which isn't a whole lot better because you're essentially enabling racism by not being against it. At some point, enough people that are against racism have to make a stand against it. At some point, enough people had to speak out against racism in order to gain momentum and start to show the culture how evil slavery and racism is. I'll use Communism as a more recent example; my family _escaped_ a communist country (not Russia) in the 70's. Its not a communist country anymore today and hasn't been since essentially the Soviet union collapsed- but having visited this other country several times in the last 10 years, I've run into all sorts of people that range from 100% still supportive of communism to the other end where they'd rather die fighting than live under communism for even 1 minute. My point is, there will _always_ be a mixed bag of people regarding any system. I'm sure regarding slavery and racism, many were *indifferent* while only some were for it, and of those some that were _for_ it, a smaller amount even owned slaves. Most people are indifferent because they're too busy looking out for themselves. Under communism, many just kept their heads down and continued to stand in the bread lines or accept rationed milk, meat and eggs because everybody else around them (for the most part) did as well.
I am italian and when we study ww2 in school we read about both sides, the weirdest thing is that you grow up knowing fascists were bad but then you realize that they were yours greatgrandfathers and you would and up being one too if you were born at that time, it's a really weird sad sensation
This man has a keen and well earned understanding of the difference between right and wrong. And that's what it really all comes down to is doing the right thing. Intelligence like his is very rare indeed. We're all endowed with a brain, but because someone instilled in him a love of reading, and he took advantage of it, he has an insight into things that you can only get from reading and reading and reading. It's the only way I myself have ever learned anything, Besides trial and error. Canada should keep him as a national treasure. If you don't have to like the man, but it's very hard to find logical arguments against him and his thought process. Benjamin Franklin.
So basically what im getting is, "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain." Should be rather portrayed as, "The only reason heroes exist, is because they were the ones that could see themselves as villains, and chose to do good instead."
That’s why the only fictional hero I find to be a real hero, is Batman. He knew that anyone, even himself, could succumb to the temptation of evil. That anyone of them could justify villainous actions through skewed views of justice, vengeance, and “needed sacrifice”. Whether you hold the might of millions of men in one finger as Superman, or were just a man like Batman, anyone could be dangerous and to be a true hero, you have to understand that. People hated Batman or disagreed with him often because he told the unbridled truth, the dark reality of the Justice League and all hero’s, that no one is truly righteous, not unless they know the worst of themselves. People hateJordan Peterson for the same reason. He relays the truth of humanity, the truth of our potential of great good and great evil. And people are not fond to hear the truth.
@@darthalmighty6639 How much attention have you given to the fictional hero concept then? The "struggle between good and evil" isn't just the good guys beating up the bad guys because that's far too simple and gets old quick. Many fictional "hero" stories explore that concept by showing both the "heroes" and "villains" in a more complete light that includes the moments of "good" and temptations of "evil" and eventually returning to the status quo. Fiction is one of the easier ways to explore that stuff because it isn't "real".
"“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”" - Nietzsche
@@skooptywooop1030 quoting the character is quoting the author. unless you aren't smart enough to figure that out, in which case the quote is probably lost anyway.
@@phogol Some people aren't going to read a book or watch a show, I think that doesn't mean someone is less intelligent here. So just quote the author directly.
This hit me in a very personal way. I’ve had a number of times where I had to confront the darker parts of my nature and face that I was the bully and the villain in a situation. I still regret things that I’ve said and done to people that were weaker than me, especially considering how much bullying I was subject to when younger. I’ve taken that shame though and use it to make sure that I haven’t done it since and try to stand up when I see it happening to others. It reminds me of one of my favorite fan theories from the MCU. In The Avengers, the old German man that stood up to Loki was probably a member of the Hitler Youth and regrets things that he said, did, or thought and was compelled to stand up to Loki so that he didn’t make the same mistakes.
That is a strong thing to say. Ive also been a victim alot of times in my life, but because all evil stuff ive done to others stuff like me being stabbed doesnt do anything to me, because it feels like i deserved it etc. But due to that weird mind set i have apperently developed ptsd according to doctors which iam in treatment for - gone 40+ times and barely scraped the surface, ive told i nailed a guy to a tree and sold a gun that was used to shoot at a house to my psychiatric ( luckily no one got hurt that time. ). But so many things i just cant say, feel so ashamed to say ive chopped peoples fingers off, taken someones wife and kid down to the playground while my other friends beat the shit out of the father ( because we got angry that there was heroin spoons on the table where a 3 year old ran around + the debts he already had. ). But it is super shameful to talk about it, and partly i believe it is because for many years i didnt care about it at all, i was so off thinking ( they knew what they got into, they got what they deserved, then i forget about it. ) But somehow the past started comming up as flashbacks later in life, i dont feel anything about remembering when people put a gun to my head, but i remember every feeling when once someon came with a tigersaw to take a guys finger and i had to explain for him i wanted a hammer and a knife. Doctors and stuff talk about forgiving yourself, but how can i, it feels like iam even a waste of space there - because how many has i given traumas? And there i sit having trauma for giving people trauma - to me it feels quite just. But it doesnt help me with my life dragging that backage, i suppose that is why i watch alot of these videos, only thing ive come to conclusion to is i really wish i was a Christian believer, read the Bible and Quran so many times and wished i could just belive - but i cant. Damn sorry, didnt mean to spew all this out, just wanted to say thumbs up for you
Well to put it simply, if you hear the words to a song you like enough, after a while you know the words and their meanings. If you pay attention early in life, you can learn the meaning of life. And the broad view of The Human Condition. PS. The meaning of life:" is in of itself." Meaning: you must find a life for yourself, that has meaning to you.
You don't know what you would do in a situation unless it actually happens. To protect our families, how many of us would have been a Nazi. Interesting thought.
It’s so good to see Jordan here. Feels like he’s just having a great conversation with a friend instead of being called a Nazi by 19 year olds who haven’t read a lick of history. Love this man
"It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb." -Gabriel Angelos
Just today I told that to my family That everyone is capable of being a horrible person... Being nice is simply a deliberate attempt we make each day... Everyone has the potential to do terrible things...
So I watched this about 2 years ago and thought “hmmm that’s interesting but I don’t think that’ll happen in America.”. 2020 has been an interesting year
After hearing this, I even more proud of my family. My great-grandfather was a traveling preacher and farmer, and he preached against Hitler and the Nazis. Got arrested, and almost sent to prison camp. The only reason he wasn’t was because they desperately needed farmers and his family couldn’t run the farm (young kids one of whom was my grandfather and his wife). So he was put on “house arrest” (couldn’t leave the farm basically) with guards. He never changed his mind or words about Hitler. I don’t know too much more as this was told third hard to me. Brave man.
A lot of people say they wouldn't have been a Nazi, an inquisitor, or a slave holder, yet most do not respond when asked "what unpopular opinion do you hold that has had real world consequences?"
This is so true, as a Christian whenever I read the bible I would get angry at the Israelites always backsliding but one day when I looked at my own life I realized that there is nothing different between me and them; chances are if I was put in the same situation I would have done the same or even worse. Jordan Peterson is a gem, these are profound truths all men and women should know.
Apparently Bible scholers say Jesus was tooken out of the old testimony by these lawyers and king Josiah or chosiah, Only Isaiah and the songs of David were all that was allowed in there doctorien and it was because they did not know it said Jesus the Messiah, Son of God would come and die and rise again
@@johnschuh8616 I have to disagree. When you have God leading you by fire at night and a cloud during the day, when you have God feeding you manna every morning, when God starts your journey by parting the Red Sea, you have to have a very stubborn heart to rebel. When the first group that rebelled was swallowed by the earth, when Moses struck the rock and water flowed from the rock, you have to be extremely thick skulled to doubt God and rebel. When the waters of the Jordan were stopped, after all the miracles and battles that had been won, you still doubt God? If so, you deserve 40 more years in the wilderness until your generation dies.
@@scottishwarrior3547 Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. Several of David's Psalms are also specifically about Jesus. The person who told you that was mistaken.
朱海 you can say that all you want. But the fact of the matter is, you didn't live in Nazi Germany and you make your statement from the perspective of someone who is looking back and saying how you would act of you were suddenly thrust back into that time period and not someone who is currently living in that period of time.
朱海 except you won’t or have possibly been raised as a hitler youth, what then? The belief that you would magically not be a Nazi just because is arrogance at its peak.
ECS Daemon i have a question do u want to live? Do u like eating? More importantly do u love ur family? These are all self interests and in nazi Germany they would be top of ur list, and if u wanted a easy way to take care of those things u join the nazi party... also the alternative is that u and ur family are executed for not being with them.... sooo hey not so much talking from experience but off of A. The experience of survivors. B. Human instinct to be fed and protect theyre family. C. By those things still happening today and by that i mean theives, muggers, killers, hitmen, politicians and well much much more. So before u ride off into the sunset on ur high horse and take a look around look up from ur phone and unless ur in ur basement.... do u see people? Tell me how many of those people would u kill to protect ur child? Tell me if u could kill one of them hell just ur least favorite one and save 3 or 4 people depending on family size... would u? Well if ur answer is yes then u could see how people can get to the point of doing anything even if they hate them selves... just to stay alive and keep others they love alive as well
As a German I often thought about what I would have done at the time. I think a good starting point is to look at people from your own family. For my family it was mixed. One man had been in a different party before it was forbidden and he continued to greet people with "Guten Tag" instead of "Heil Hitler", but he withdrew from politics when all other parties were made illegal. Another man was a member of the Nazi party as he believed Germany had been unduly humiliated after WW1 and needed to be renewed. He took significant benefit for his business as a carpenter as he could get orders from the state-controlled postal service. Two other men died in Russia and Poland respectively as soldiers, but I do not know about their political views. They were not party members.
NWO take over now in place all sorts of politicians and journalist who are right wing and not even a threat surprisingly are now considered "nazis" and must be shut down from the internet because of there supposed "hate speech."
@Layman's Terms Stop.Propaganda is and has been used throughout history by left and right and by any form of politcs. It's just happens that today more left leaning ideas are more accepted and are being a bit more exhibited. But still every opinion is being expressed and there is propaganda by the right wing too,just less accepted by the mainstream. That's just it.It is in no way comparable to the Nazis and what their reign was about. Stop being ignorant.
Yea until the person actually sees what the Germans did back then... people have to face it, we'd all be Nazis, we'd have no choice. I see that most, if not all kids today are becoming more facist by the day. We just call it Social Justice now.
Someone told me that wartime PTSD was not so much about the horrible things one had seen, but about finding out what one could be pushed to do which conflicted with the entire concept of self.
That is what Jesus taught 2000 years ago. We have no riteousness of our own . All have sinned .none are riteous no not one. You must be born again. Not by your own effort or by the will of man but of God. Jesus told people that truth.. people are self riteous and wont come to the savior cause they wont admit they are wretched . Jesus told people they are sinners who need to be saved they hated him for it and put him on a cross. But he went willingly. He who did no sin took the punishment we deserve that if we place our faith in him we xan be saved. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever beliveth in him might not perish but have everlasting life. The gospel is the good news. But you have to admit the bad news first .that you are not riteous that you are a wretched sinner in need of being saved. You wont go to a docter if you dont belive you are sick.. you have to admit that you are evil and ask Jesus to save you
I find this a very difficult discussion as it has an impact on my own experiences. In a sense I was up until my late 20's the "naive" person he describes, specifically on the subject of women and relationships. Then I got a "serious" girlfriend and she cheated on me, and it turned my entire world upside down. Although I'd been aware of the concept of cheating, and although I'd been on the receiving end of malevolence throughout my life (bullying etc.) I'd consistently found that when people liked me and got to know me, they tended to want to stick around and be loyal. That someone could have taken the time to be very emotionally and physically intimate with me over a period of months and have been lying about their intentions the entire time - essentially using me for their own egotistical gratification - and then for them to go seeking something elsewhere behind my back knowing full well their actions were hurtful to me - a very cold malevolence - had never crossed my mind. I think this was also exacerbated by me being a very "passive" person, because in a sense, as a tall and strong boy and subsequently man with an angry, confrontational father, I had been non-naive about certain monstrous behaviours - I had always been aware and afraid that I could lose control of my own anger, "hulk out" and seriously physically harm someone. This meant I shied away from conflict and wasn't prepared to stand up for myself, which made me susceptible to people like my ex-girlfriend. It's funny how you can simultaneously go too far in both directions, being both aware of your monstrous potential but unaware of a different kind of monstrous potential in others. My ex and I have not talked in many years and it still angers me that she showed no remorse over her actions and is apparently now living a happy, consequence-free life on the other side of the world. It's easier for me just to dismiss my ex as a "monster" for her behaviour but JBP's line of thought seems to suggest that is incorrect. This is difficult for me to come to terms with.
The only difference between a Man/Woman & a Monster, is Introspection & Self Control. We are all Monsters, but some of us use that Primal Drive to be better than our Base Urges. "Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many" The Doctor, from Dr Who, in response to someone calling him a good man. Truer words have not been spoken. Before we get morons with denial on high horses spouting absolute crap, the quote applies equally to Women, you are not immune just because of vagina. Every Human was born with a 50%-50% balance of Good & Evil, it's up to us to chose which side to lean on & tip the balance towards.
That's the whole point of What Jordan Peterson said. Also as I stated, the only thing stopping you from being the Monster is Introspection & Self Control. If you don't question those base urges & seemingly excusable actions, you are a monster. If you do question them, but still do it, then you are an even bigger monster. One of my favourite sayings is "You are always in the shit, it's only the depth that varies".
I cannot overstate the gratitude & respect I have for JP & the things he’s taught me!! He has deepened my understanding of religion & science and helped me to understand what geniuses like Einstein meant when they stated that their scientific understanding brought them closer to God!
I took an amazing class my senior year of high school. It was called American Problems. the class was made up of four simulations; one for each quarter of the year. We would prepare for a sim, do a sim, and then debrief. The first simulation was that of a Totalitarian Society. 2 weeks where there was nothing but the state. In school, out of school, at work, at play, they were watching. They knew where we would be at all times of the day, and they would do random checks to verify. All the things you would expect to come with a totalitarian society were there. Except instead of the threat of death to keep us in line, it was points to be gained or lost. I was indicted for treasonous thought crimes against the state and I lost nearly all my points. Now I was desperate. I stabbed by best friends in the back to get points back. Had them indicted for things I knew they hadn’t even done. I had enough points to pass again, but now my friends actually hated me. They continued to be mad at me for weeks over my betrayal, even after the simulation had ended. They eventually forgave me. The point is, in just two short weeks my loyalty to my best friends was surpassed by my fear of the state.
@@hardset-vi3ze we are monsters who have an abundance of resources atm so our demonic side doesn't need to come out and play, just like an animal with a full stomach will more than likely leave prey animals alone. Look at the problems people look for today, they're pathetic and a complete waste of time... thats the demonic side rearing its ugly head via social justice.
Jordan’s point about being complicit with or active in the Nazi actions is spot-on. EVERYBODY’s weak point is their spouse, child, family, friends. And every single dictator knows to exploit that. Many people are not worried about their own physical safety, but it’s another thing to accept that your own child, family, or inner circle could be hurt in your name.
Clearly Perterson is correct for mid-late 1930s Germany. Usually most of us realize that. The big question is, back when Nazism was first forming, why did nobody fight back? From the early Nazi/Communist rivalry for power against the moderates in the early/mid 20s to the rapid growth in popularity following 1929, during this essential period no one wanted to/was capable of opposing extremism?
@SwordSorcery2020 Yeah the Nazi and Communist parties in Germany were rivals for control of government back in the 1920s. Both thought they could do much better than the moderates in charge at the time. The Nazis won, of course, and Hitler eventually became chancellor, etc.
@SwordSorcery2020 Read the early chapters of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". Also several scenes in the movie version of "Cabaret ". I think there are scary similarities to the West in 2020. Hope I'm wrong.
George Brantley If you think about why no one fought back, the power struggle was during the Great Depression, and Germany at the time was the worst place in the world because of the depression and the ww1 treaty. Bread was a million euros. And when half of the population is starving, and one mustached guy proclaiming the resurgence of greatness by killing some phantom bad guy, people took whatever exit they could get. Other countries couldn’t do anything either because of the depression, and they chose appeasement, letting Germany gobble up Poland and Czechoslovakia before France called foul from getting invaded.
Jordan Peterson message has been extremely helpful to me trying to improve my life and myself. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would be against what he does and says! I just don't get it!
Because he mixes genuinely good advice with false propaganda, misinformation and harmful behavior. I think way less people would hate on him if he was just an idiot who couldn't say one right thing if he tried, they would just ignore him as most people ignore others like that.
@@Anankin12 Exactly what 'false propaganda' are you talking about? Because I really can't think of anything he's ever said that could be construed as false propaganda, or even misinformation for that matter!! If you could please tell me I'm genuinely curious?
@@B.Mega.D anything related to IQ and jobs he said is completely bogus. czcams.com/video/P2mxdrTP-os/video.html IQ is a statistical predictor, but actually has very little meaning for the individual. That's one example, there are others but I won't bother finding them unless you ask me. IMHO this one is sufficient to rule anything he says in the field out because if he's misinformed about such basic stuff, I'm not trusting him to know his stuff on more complex subjects in the same field.
It's the person that has the humility and self-reflection to admit they could have joined the Nazi party that is ironically likely to be the one that wouldn't be a Nazi. The people who are certain, are the ones that would have been Nazi's simply because they lack introspection of themselves and others. Even Orwell wrote about how charming Hitler was and that's because Orwell has a gift for brutal honesty, not because he is a Nazi. Orwell was literally antifascist, not some arrogant poseur declaring themselves morally superior.
fascism is a response to communism. So to be Anit-fascist is to be communist and upset that someone is hindering your attempts to get everyone killed. Literally the fastest way to create Nazi's is to offend them with wokeness and then try to force them to swallow as much wokeness as they can stomach before they get mad.
@Junked Life Fascism was created by Musolini after he felt let down by communism. (Yes at first Mussolini had comunistic ideas. Most probably there were forerunners before that, but they are forerunners the same as revolutionaries tearing down the " higher clases" might be called communistic. But either way the ideology becomes one when it is clearly defined.
@Junked Life Musolini put it on paper in essence, many ideas that founded it came before that yes, but then the same can be said about Marx and Engels and their communism. The republic under military leader is in essence a dictatorship so if we go by that logic the romans created it. But if we go by that logic then first communist came to be when first peoples rose up against their aristocracy and tried to create a egelatarian state. And that would deffinetly place it before any republics under a sole ruler. Eilither way might be mistaken but thats atleast how i understand this topic
The Stanley Milgram experiment on behavioural conditioning will always stick with me, because it's a good indicator that people in large numbers, supported by a person in position will allow all sorts of evil to happen. It wouldn't matter what political position you hold, you will sus on your neighbor given the chance.
Not *everyone* in the milgrams experiment went to the extreme - the point about Milgrams is that it shows that people will often follow authority further than they might like to admit, not that *everyone* will. It is not your political persuasion, but it *is* the type of person that you are. Have you ever wondered why people on the right are usually so much in agreement on so many issues - your political persuasion has a lot to do with what sort of person you are, more than you might be aware. Jonathan Haidt is very good on this.
@@jamspandex4973 as much as I agree, that is a very small # when you apply it to millions. When everyone is in the field is facing the same threat YOU would not be against the grain if you didn't know the outcome.
@@joemomma5814 Well, there you go, making the same mistake as peterson, generalising and saying that YOU would - you know nothing about me ! and just think of all the people who LEFT Germany when the Nazis came to power - and they were NOT all jews. all YOU can legitimately say, and all Peterson can legitmately say is that *statistically* there is a high probability that *people* would have become Nazis. But it is all bullshit anyhow, since it is predicated on being able to transfer people back in time to a different era, with their personality in tact, so the entire discussion only makes sense if you allow that hypothetical situation. And if you allow that then I know damn well that I wold not be a nazi, since I have been involved in campainging against Nazis and white supremecists for over nearly 30 years. In fact the *only* way in which what peterson is saying makes sense, is if he means, "if you had been born and brought up in genrany during the rise of the nazis, then you would likely have bceome a Nazi" and I have no problem with that AT ALL, it is most likely true, but it is not a profound statement in ANY SENSE, no more profound, than saying if I had been brought up in Saudi Arabie, I would be a muslim, or if I had been born in China, I would have been Chinese. If I had been born and brought up as a slave owner in the United states, I would have owned slaves, etc. Because in each of those cases you would have been brought up with the values of the time. But so what ? What do any of those hypotheticals have to say about ME, NOW ? I wasn;t brought up then, I was brought up towards the end of the last century, so my values are different. So If , with my current values, could be transported back to Germany during the rise of the fascists, then I know damn well that I would have been on the demonstrations fighting again them during their rise to power, and would probably have left Germany as soon as I could when it looked like they were going to win, just like thousands of others. The thing about Peterson, is that he knows some things, and then he wildly extapolates, to assert reasonable sounding, but completely baseless claims about things he is not really expert in. You need to read some of the history of the oposition to the Nazis that existed, yes, even between 1939 - 1945. The mistake that Peterson makes here, is that people who join the police are authoritarian by nature, so of course it was easier to imagine them becoming a full on Nazi. And when he talks about "it was top down auhoritarianism" that is complete bullshit, since the police are an intrinsically authoritarian organisation any how, just look at the US police and how they behave during civil protests. So at best what Peterson is really saying, is that "if you are a police officer "type", then if you had been living in Nazi Germany, you would have been a Nazi", and I have no problem with that. The problem I have, is in people saying that *any specific person* would have been a Nazi, pure and simple, which is not supported by evidence, and there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Indeed, I personally, have always thought of things from a slightly different perspective - one of the French resistance. And it is this, imagine someone that you know, and then think, if they had been in France under the occupation, would they have been an eager collaborator, a reluctance collaborator doing so out of fear, or in the resistance ? I know many people, who I feel would certainly have been active collaborators, even gladly joining the Nazi party. Howver, I like to think that I would have been in the resistance, however, I however, I very openly conceded that in reality, I may very well have been too cowardly to put my life at risk, and as such, would have likely pretended to go along with everything, while secretly hating the Nazis and doing anything I could to undermine them without actually putting myself in danger. So my take away on this is DON'T believe Peterson on anything he says when he starts to generalise outside of what he knows, In this case, he is not a historian. He may well have been correct about his assessment of this woman - he should have known her by that point, but his implication that willingly going along with everything is what *everyone* would have done is just bullshit.
@@jamspandex4973 you mad bro? Starting to make me think You did & want to deny it so as not to get prosecuted. Its not an attack on you personally its a human trait that you cannot overcome with thought..only with action & actions are very predictable
In 2018 I saw a German Comedy film called “Look Who’s Back”. It’s about Adolf Hitler in 21st century Germany. Many people opposed him because of what he did. But listening to him addressing his audience and what he spoke about I realized: “Wow. He actually talks a lot of sense. If I knew Hitler, I have to admit, I would have followed him.” Maybe that was the message the filmmakers tried to communicate.
Oh for sure especially after you consider the climate during that time being humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles and having a person come through and take back what was (rather agreed upon by history) unfairly taken from them. Seeing the economy turn around. Watching employment rise and the cleaning of the streets like red light districts, crime and overall well-being of a nation. That's what you would have experienced.
Dude! I am just now learning about this. As for someone who is trying to learn German and has been to Germany before, I will definitely be watching this film here soon.
cause and effect. he predicted it, but he fails to acknowledge the root cause, or even attempt to give a realistic solution to solve the problems these "groups" are protesting against. people can't just sit back and endlessly wait for things to change, and obviously words weren't doing much.
FlamingLips79 this is a very short clip. If you do more research I’m pretty sure you’ll find that he will tell you the root cause of all this chaos and the solutions for it. I leave the research up to you my friend.
FlamingLips79 I don’t think Aaron Webb is referencing the BLM riots, as in BLM as a movement for change. I think he’s referencing BLM as a organization run by Marxists who have carried the riots past change for equality and just want to overtake cities
I finally understand the meaning behind the Monster anime. At first, I was underwhelmed by the ending as it seemed to build up all the hype just to end like that but I guess it made sense as an psychological horror and the ending is supposed to make you ponder. However I digress, I think the general message was that anyone could be a monster as Dr.Peterson said as one environment can greatly influence how once turns out (nature vs nurture). We as humans hate being alone and cast out as it literally affects the same region of our brain that registers physical pain as we are social beings. So we will greatly go out of our way to avoid being outcasted (myself included) even if it means compromising our morals and doing monstrous things. We have no right to say we would never do such a thing if we never experienced the same circumstances. This was a great piece and I pray to God that one day can get over this evil spirit of cowardice of going against the grain because many breakthroughs like women’s franchise, freedom from slavery etc were. caused by going against the grain. Jesus Christ (my lord and saviour) did the same and was willing to give his life for the world so I know that to have the ultimate conviction you need to be willing to put your life on the line.
DGX37 I was just having fun. Its a place you can say anything. I dont try to 'troll' or be hurtful. I just like to be weird ya know. Like back when trolling was harmless. I was just letting myself out in a creative way. I suppose with the weird media, it seems like they are trying to implement immorality onto children, which I could see children idolizing celebrities. My take is very different. I despise the idea of parents not raising their children properly. I mean a wolf would raise its child and protect it. I see it as a weakness and insanity. I think alot of this insanity comes from virtues implemented onto them thats not pure or their own. Telling them they have to be sheep. Religion plays a major part of it. Everything is the fence. To me being a wolf means doing what you want and being independent, not being 'evil'. Although your virtues or 'morality' maybe very different as you have your own idea of what is right and wrong. So if that makes any sense to you.
He is right about it being a human trait. Too many comments here have the benefit of hindsight. He is talking about imagine you were there at that pint in time, not knowing what you know today, and under extreme stress to follow or die. People today can't even resist peer pressure to say no to a drink or something else to look cool to their friends let alone do so with their lives and families lives on the line.
Completely. The vast majority of us would just try to get by, not put ourselves or our family in danger etc. Just look at how many people don't even have time to stop in the street, yet we think we're going to risk our lives taking on an authoritarian regime in our own country?
I think it was Bill Maher that quipped, "you're not better than Jesus or George Washington, you were just born later." We like to think, "why, if I was there when the butcher/doctors of the time were bloodletting George Washington, I would have stood up and said, no!" Ehh, no you wouldn't have. Nor would you have been trying to stop the crucifixion of Jesus. We know it's wrong now, but back then, you didn't have the benefit of knowledge and history like we do now. Fifty years from now, very "woke" people will be telling the current crop of "woke" people just how awful they are and asking, why weren't you better back then?
I was thinking about a lot of our current social movements in that lens. We THINK we know what the right answer is now, but it might not match what we determine later. That's why opposing viewpoints, even if you think they are wrong, are important.
@@genevievec.8002 I agree. A world without debate scares me far more than a world where we disagree. I disagree with people all over the political spectrum all the time, and it's healthy.
@@3brenm it's true. That is why intelligent people going solo are dangerous. You are forced to deal with them since you have nobody to threaten. I promise there are still people whose values are so ingrained they would lose all for the idea.
@@moondawg3693 Imminent truth, if it's not already too late! Perhaps fate is merciful since one only needs a little attention to be alarmed now. Not unrelated is the opinion most people have of the Fed: "They're doing the best they can." A moment of critical thought sounds the alarm: "My God, what if that's true!?" If they are now doing the best things they can, and their approach will not get better, but is essentially on rails, the pending economic outcome must be like gasoline to political fire. If that surmise is true, a new mandate of attention-paying must follow: One must pay attention to all one can to what form successful shelter from economic and political fallout must take. For instance, some folks seem to endorse a lifestyle similar to that of the certain farmers who happened to live in a certain collective situation not of their making. I think I would like that lifestyle, except for working so hard😂. These people seem to have been wise and excellent people in their time without much noted interest in politics, except for the stubborn belief that they should be the ones to manage what they had painfully earned. But they couldn't overcome the ill-conceived envy of the powerful. At least I haven't heard of any who did, unless you define overcoming in terms of how well they endured deprivation and hardship. Can people today be wiser than those good old farmers and escape with lives intact? I don't know. But I'm going to pay attention to what the wisest are doing, if I can find out who they are, and if I can understand it, and if I can afford it. A lot of ifs
The strange paradox is that once you realize that you probably would act like a nazi in ww2 , you are capable of not being a nazi by the enlightening power of making a conscious choice and the willingness to die instead of giving in to the little steps of fear that leads to hell on earth
An interesting thought but an absolute misunderstanding of the point, i know 100% that i would be a monster to protect my own child. How much of a monster is the question that he is asking. It's not a question of making a choice to not do so, it's understanding that often the "correct" decision in the moment is to be that monster for your own good. Unenlightened self interest is just as powerful as enlightened self interest.
@@egoish6762 doesn't he essentially make both points? You have to understand and develop the monster so you can control and use it by choice. Ignoring or pretending you aren't capable of these things just leads to lying to yourself and making justifications while doing horrific things for all the wrong reasons or no reason at all.
lmao nah I'm honest enough with myself to know that I'd just conform. Knowing that doesn't change it... Saying you'd be willing to die instead of simply gassing some strangers... idk about you, but I'd probably just let loose fingers Lenny handle the switch and hide in my room at best.
I think you mean Good. Capital G, as in the forces of Truth and Justice. Very harmful, if provoked. I consider flowers, babies, Care Bears good. Harmless.
The Meek will inherit, because the Bold will create a wasteland. Percieved slights, grievances, distrust, vengeance will culminate in at least some of those nukes being used. Entire populations will be decimated. A long post apocalyptic rebuild and probably an underground eugenics program. Aggressive and warlike people will be phased out. We will never see Utopia. But it is possible. Only after Hell on Earth
One of the most painful things I have ever seen is a documentary with a Japanese soldier who went to China and instantly found himself having to murder prisoners with all the other new officers under the supervision of their command. And how he talked about being an educated person who considered himself a humanist and the thoughts and madness running through his mind as he committed the act. Him trying to rationalize what was happening, how this could even be allowed, and how it would affect his family if he decided to back out then. It’s hard to watch him tell it, and if you can see him as a human and the same as you, how heartbreaking it is to have a window into someone’s mind as they start the transformation into a monster.
There was a psych study that looked into how people can slowly be turned into things they claim to be against due to group pressure and the need to fit in. They found it is a rare trait when someone stands on principle rather than following along, a very very rare trait.
The Holocaust was formalized in National Socialist Germany in January, 1942 a one-day meeting known as the Wannsee Conference. Mass murder had been going on for some time, but Himmler decided to go full on industrial mode as Germany absorbed most of Europe. Leaders from various parts of the Reich government were represented - police, transportation, manufacturing, etc. People think of the regime as populated with troglodytes. Of the 13 people in attendance, 7 held doctorates. When people talk about the government professionals knowing what's best for us, these are those people. Note: I previously stated the Wannsee meeting was in 1943; it actually happened in 1942.
he isn't wrong though, people all like to think they would do the right thing, but most people wouldn't even go down the street to complain about bad government decisions if you wont go that far to speak how can you expect to go further and risk much more for someone else?
@@luggy9256 I totally agree, we can see now that people have all the freedom of the world to speak without being persecuted, and they are still afraid to speak against the bad decisions, imagine at that time when people would be executed just for the smallest rebellion.
Maybe the Allies were the perpetrators USA Roosevelt was Suckered by Churchill British Empire Bullies and Stalin Commie Henchman those two wanted to Destroy Germany After WWI and more before WWII started.
What he said is true. People forget how easily people are talked into doing great evil. I myself recognize I am a monster. If my family was on the line there isn't anything I wouldn't do to spare them.
After 2020 it's true. There are people today who still wont see their family because of their medical decisions because strangers of authority told them too. Peterson followed aswell he says he regrets it now but he still followed.
I ruined my son. I talk to him about thinking about everything in a deeper fashion, evaluating the good and the bad. I talked to him about the process of not complying (passive resistance) so that he could resist evil in the most effective way. Then we moved out of the country, and I had all my savings stolen by a foreigner living in Atlanta, GA. I tried to get a lawyer or some government agency to help, but I was left alone to deal with it. I went back to the U.S. to work five more years to have and save enough money to stay in our new country. I left when he was 12. I kept in contact, calling and talking with my family each night, but it wasn't enough. Between social medial and the pressures of high school, and just a mom trying to survive, he got into the video game/ alphabet group. No longer was he interested in doing anything but socializing with these mutually self-destructive groups. I was forced to leave at the worst time in his life, and i did what I felt I had to do, not realizing the harm that I was doing to this poor soul. I don't blame him; I blame me. Now he's living somewhere else with exactly the type of people you'd expect. We talk every now and then, but never about anything important because it ":triggers" him. He was my life. Now I'm alone.
So sad. But you can send him simple postcards that he can read and keep and slowly work your way to a new place. It sounds corny, but it worked for me.
He's right... the fact that so many Polish people saved so many Jews by risking their own lives and families is absolutely insane as the average person would never ever take that risk even though we all think we would sitting comfortably in front of our screen.
@Purty Princess love it. Deep and relatable. Arguably we're all born evil and most never overcome it, rather society forces us to repress it. Love the boss to employee example - perfection.
@Purty Princess you know, antifa think they're the sheep dog to. Also, imagining yourself as a Nazi officer instead a freedom fighter is the same type of niavity Peterson was criticizing in this video. You won't make anything better by beating the shit out of some random leftists, the best thing you can do, is rewatch the video. You got the wrong message.
well, I think it was easier for Poles to save Jews, because they were all on that same boat. But as a Pole, I hate to admit that we weren't purely angelic. There were a lot of Poles that were selling Jews to Germans.
Will John so is mlk a get woke go broke? The right love to use him as a “good activist” but he wanted to change people’s minds and he was beaten and killed for it by the same people who are now saying he was such a good man.
@@bojangles3518 I know that you are trying to say that today's LGBTQ+ community are yesterday's Black community, but you are wrong. There is no comparison, and it's insulting to even think that.
Brilliant but extremely frightening. Anyone who doesn't feel that (when watching this) has no grasp of what lies within each of us. In our lives, our hope is that we are never tested to the point where the darkness wins and our soul is lost. If, under those extreme circumstances, our good character wins, it's often the last decision we make. Bravo for speaking the truth, Dr Peterson.
Every time I watch Dr. Jordan Peterson give a speech, I find myself reminded every single time that this man possesses a charisma that can spark movements. It amazes, inspires and terrifies me to equal degrees of each. He can make it so that time flies faster as you watch him; a discussion which should make minutes feel like hours instead makes minutes feel like seconds when delivered by Dr. Jordan Peterson.
This… Jordan’s charisma could be very dangerous if he chose to utilize it to such a degree. It reminds me of when he talks Jung’s integration of the shadow, because Jordan definitely has all the tools to influence the masses, but chose to put that charisma to good use👍
I read a book entitled The Invisible Jew about and written by a young jewish male who went right through WW2 living precariously in Germany with kindly Germans protecting him and feeding him. He was never sent to any slave labour camps. I don't know that good people are as rare as described by Mr Peterson here. For clarity, I am an admirer of Mr Peterson and the work he is doing.
@@darylblack7394 i mean they were storming the streets in crowds to protest the police not long ago. Crazy how only BLM protesting has magic protection from a worlwide pandemic and somehow doesnt contribute to the virus spread.
@@normanladdleschnitzel1928 people were crowding the streets to protest having to wear masks before that. Then they crowded bars and beaches when they tried opening things back up at a limited capacity before that too. Did you forget about those things?
@@darylblack7394 didn't see anything beyond people still hosting parties in my state until shit with BLM hit the fan. that is the reality for most non-coastal states brudda
I fully agree. My parents loved me so much they made me think they didn’t love me because they knew what destiny had in store for me. I had to become a controlled Monster over several decades. Finally, the Dark Side is fully embedded, leaving me fearless and strong. Great power confers Great responsibility and carefully measured steps must be taken in pursuit of the Future.
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10:55 wtf?!
Just demonstrates how many pathetic ignoramuses are teaching young people.
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers I'm actually interested in what that was all about too.
I found many things out about the Anne Frank books that is actually even more fucked up but in a different point of view and way. The girl whose picture is claimed to be Anne Frank yea that is Hitler's first girlfriend when Hitler was a kid. That was not Anne Frank. There was not girl named Anne Frank for those books. The guy who originally wrote the books was a Nazi leader who over saw military operations of supplies and had no connection to the war front nor connection to the camps either. The truth is the guy made up the stories and millions upon millions of Jews believed the stories were 100% fact when in fact not one is true at all because he admitted that they were blatant lies and just stories because he thought he could make a bunch of money. His son took over the writing process of making the books after the original writer died and the original writers son wrote the books until he died in 1983 and the original writer's son passed down the operation to his son who wrote the books until he died in 1997 and then the grandson's son wrote books until 2004 and stopped the entire franchise and went into writing scripts for video games. The entire Anne Frank franchise is a bunch of lies that made an actual Nazi family extremely rich. Hell the original writer's middle name was named after his uncle named Frank and his neighbor he had a crush on and would peep on her changing was named Anne.
This is why we need GOD to set us free from the evil within us we are born with a terrible nature because of sin but Jesus died to set us free from that nature and gives us the Holy Spirit to overcome the sin nature
I watched an interview with a Holocaust survivor once and she talked about the family that took her in, and when the interviewer asked her if she’d do the same thing for them she said “ I don’t know, I don’t think so” it takes a lot to be that honest with yourself
I think I've seen that too...
The problem is that a lot of people would be shamed for saying that. If you allow yourself to understand the true nature of humans and how we can all be monsters, the majority of people who believe themselves to be saints will ostracize you for not keeping up the same facade.
So it becomes a self perpetuating cycle of people being pressured into ignorance and then enforcing that ignorance onto others to keep up appearances.
And then those people who believe themselves to be saints end up being the most cruel simply because they have allowed themselves to be so unaware of how the world and humans work that they cannot comprehend the consequences of their own actions.
It's the worst lie we tell as human beings, the lies we tell ourself. It's the lie that leads you spiraling out of control, leads you to situations you never imagined, It's the road that leads to hell. I think JP covers this in his rule "Tell the Truth"
Indeed, because they've never looked truth in the face. There's a lot Peterson says i dont agree with, but he has an awful lot of painful psychological lessons that i agree with.
It certainly does. Yet how rare is it to meet someone that has that kind of honesty?
Me civics teacher told me Jordan Peterson was a racist nazi so I went to see what that kind of point of view could possibly see and I end up finding an amazing person haha
That means he really haven't listened to even a minute of him talking.
@@arhamsaa JP is extremely anti-totalitarian. It doesn't take long to figure this out from listening to him. Although I don't always see eye to eye with JP, he's very adept at breaking down "established" structures and present a diametrically different perspective and let people see how shallow their perception were.
A good teacher should never be pushing their opinion on their students. Your civics teachers needs a reality check!
IIRC, he became "notorious" by disagreeing with a then proposed law in Canada "requiring" people to use an individual's preferred pronouns. He never said he wouldn't at all, but he wanted individuals to ask him first.
@@arhamsaa Yeah. Required. Forced. Not a big difference in this context. :)
The fact that so many people fail to realize that they just might be the bad guy is astonishing to me. I'm equally amazed how people allow themselves to be victimized as well. Watching this in September of 2021, and seeing the things going on around the world give me great fear of what's to come in the near future.
Everyone sees them self as the hero and there’s people going around trying their best to victimize themself as a defense mechanism when we’re all tossed into a melting pot of grey areas as flawed humans who are biased and hold different fundamental values altogether.
Yep. To see people police their neighbours in the interests of the state, dispensing with their rights and freedoms in exchange for promises of cleanliness as they scapegoat a segment of the population for all their problems...hello old friend, it's been a while.
And this I why I own firearms and know how to hunt and fish.. the world is becoming ever more nightmarish.
We have fought multiple civil and world wars in the west and even put an end to open slavery worldwide so that everyone can walk around with a taste of freedom of choice here in the west. Don't forget where you're from and don't talk down parts of history that shouldn't be forgotten. We have more good people in the world than you think. If we had more bad then open slavery would still be going on in the west today. Lest we forget.
@@stephenwebster9875 I think you're missing the point. It isn't that people are either good OR bad, it's that everyone has the potential for malevolence within them, and we ought to be mindful of that lest it get the better of us in a moment of naivete or pretentiousness. Because if you define yourself as the de facto "good guy", you can easily wind up doing terrible things under the impression that you're justified because you're fighting evil, or morality is on your side, or the ends justify the means, etc.
"Never under estimate ones OWN proclivity for malevolence".
This lesson is a big step toward both personal humility and responsibilty and should be taught with examples.
Anyone who thinks they would resist the Nazis in 1930s Germany isn't hungry, poor, and hopeless.
imagine protesting against the wars in japan during the 1930s and 1940s
@Bobert Wiltshire yeah pretty much every rich person did so..
My grandfather did, strangely enough.
He was an incredibly talented man, and a socialist. He summarised patents for Werner von Braun's consumption, and rewrote scientific gobbledegook into formal administrative german, so that the scientists could procure what they needed. He worked on the rocket project until 41. It then came under the auspices of the SS, and he refused to join. So he spent the rest of the war on the Crimean and then six years in a Russian prisoner of war camp.
All this left him strangely untouched. But when his wife died of cancer in the seventies, that broke him. I still remember hearing him cry himself to sleep every night when I visited him ...
A lot of people did resist the Nazis. However, in the 30's people had no idea of the future atrocities the Nazis would commit.
Jim Bo .....or angry....angry that your rich history, culture, and civilization is under threat of extinction....such as making generation upon generation of Germans pay for one generation’s actions....until that country simply destroys itself through modern politics
"Never underestimate stupid people in large numbers". -George Carlin.
This applies to twitter and cancel culture so much it scares me lol
@@davidwilson4446 Topical.
BLM.
Religion
Carlin wouldent of liked Jordan, Jordan seems to hold most his values from religion. Carlin despised religion.
A chilling interview. So accurate. When Dr. Peterson said: "things can turn on a dime", my blood ran cold.
If the 1% and/or the political elite keep going in the way they are, marginalising the population, rampant corruption, leaning towards tyranny and authoritarianism, the thing is going to happen again.
@@theophrastusvonhoenheim4022 is that to me?
Yeah. That's what happened in Australia last year. A liberal country became a PRISON for everyone.
Considering how Australia started out, that's not really surprising.
@@Petra44YT your country was always a prison thos?
I’m atheist, democratic and do have several difference of opinions on some of the topics he talks about but after coming across his talks recently, he’s really opened my eyes on the other sides of issues as well as respecting ones stances! He’s incredibly well spoken and makes you think. I think it’s wrong blindly following every word you hear and he makes me critically think on the topics I stand on. Mad respect to this guy 👍
It is a rare courage to be persuadable.
Imagine what can happen when u dont just shout down the opposition but debate instead
Well, that's being a grown-up, which we are sadly lacking in modern society.
Funny thing, NSDAP built some of their ethno-racism on the philosophy of Johann Gottlieb Fichte who was actually fired from the University of Jena for defending atheism.
I have to ask are you STILL a dem? If so how?
The very people calling Peterson a fascist for making this point would have been fascists in Europe in the 30s and 40s.
Fascism is not what we get told that it is. It's the complete opposite. Same with national socialism. I'm sure you'll find information if u look 👍
@@ACM-sp1gh Its a very broad term. Fascism in Italy and here in Germany back in the day werent intertwine-able though the core principles seems to be conservatism married with nationalism. The term has become so deeply associated with Nazism though that its original Mussolini founded concept has somewhat vanished.
For me, the modern definition of "American" Fascism can be seen in action when you put on CNN.
peopld dont even think what they say
@@nickystyles868
Actually, it isn't conservatism mixed with nationalism. It's socialism mixed with nationalism. Nazi Germany was a Socialist state. The state controlled everything, social norms and the economy. The individual was allowed to operate his own enterprise but only at the behest of the state. If you step out of line and buck the state, you lose everything. You exist for the state and that includes your business. China, today, is the closest country to a Fascist state we have. Socialist to the core. You can become a billionaire in China but only if you strictly follow the mandates of the state. Step out of line and it's gone.....all of it.
To get an idea of how the Nazis controlled the economy, read the book "My Father's Country". A deep insight into being a German in a Nazi dominated nation. It appears to be conservative but it actually isn't if you read that and then read the book "The Road to Serfdom". Things will begin go come together. What's interesting is how Frederic Hayek, a man who lived in that time and was from Austria, like Hitler, just assumes that Nazi Germany was Socialist, as if it were common knowledge. Something happened to our perception of the political nature of Nazi Germany since then.
@@JackHaveman52 sounds a lot like feudal ownership. The Duke or Baron is allowed to thrive at the command of the King. The Founding Fathers went away from that.
"Stop trying to look smart on the internet and clean your room."
- Jordan Peterson reading your quotes.
"Shut up, old man Peterson!"
- The guy sitting next to me.
@R H
Oh dear, it seems that a foot has been stepped on!
Grow up.
@Foolie75
It's been years, and I _still_ can't figure out what the hell is wrong with the Peterson fanbase.
What a bunch of repressed, combative, spiteful little pricks.
Grow a sense of humour while you're busy cleaning your room.
@@fds7476 Well yeah, a fanbase is dogmatic by definition. These people are the loudest and with Peterson in particular it is clear that this phenomena could even be a bit more pronounced as by supporting his "unpopular" position they are often excluded a priori from whatever argument they might be debating. This makes them frustrated.
haha imagine listening to Peterson and still get offended when someone make a small joke about him.
This reminds me of a story at my high school. When I was 12 years old I had a task at my high school to write an essay about Greco-Persian War. For some unknown reason, I wanted to do something different from anyone else in the classroom and I came out with an idea to write about Battle of Thermopulae from the perspective of a Persian ordinary soldier. When my teacher asked me why I chose to write an essay from the villain's point of view I couldn't come up with anything better than saying that it is statistically much higher probability that I would have been in a larger army during that war
Cool! I hope you were marked well for that. That's some great thinking from a 12 year old.
@@Redrosewitch Thank you so much! Yes, I was marked really good for this essay since my teacher appreciated creative thinking out there. I have to also give a credit to her since she was really passionate about the subject and made a huge impact on my interest in history and desire to learn, afterwards
I like the cut of your jib here. This is exactly the kind of perspectives we need to explore at every angle.
@@glenpeting8552- Well put! And to the OP, what a remarkable insight for a 12 year old! I pray that you’ve continued to both nurture and share that gift!
This level of thinking in this age is remarkable. You couldnt know at that time but Xerxes in his reforms has surpassed his era. You have challenged the good vs. bad label and with this thinking you have surpassed your age. Hope you are doing well and using your talent.
Damn, When he said, “that could never happen in Australia.” I got chills
I know... Me too... This video was from 3 years ago... it makes it easier to see why so many have fallen for it and insult people like you and me speaking out against what is happening
When you said what he said, sames. Been thinking about the C. S. Lewis quotation about robber barons a lot lately.
loonie women keep raising the next generation. If father puts his foot down on anything, off to family court with a false accusation thats beleived. feminists saturate every organisation and any valid criticism is considered abuse.
That's the point, this is an emotionally driven story to make you hate the German people. Concocted by the same people currently engaged in genocide.
"What is better? To be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort."
- Paarthunax
Drem yol lok, greetings :)
now explain me how you can be born "good"
@@lucasfff1370 what IS good, what IS evil? Why are we the ones to determine what good and evil is?
@@mannamoth918 its up to you my man. Do what feels good, avoid what feels evil.
@@lucasfff1370 so, if going on a mass genocidal rampage feels 'Good', I could/should do it? Aight, see you on the news in... a few hours
“Don’t trust everything you read on internet “ - Abraham Lincoln
Ha ha! Legend!
And only half of what you see and hear.
Best comment I have seen in quite a while 👍
This was mine lol.......
The only people that would not have been a Nazi as a nazi Germany citizen would be dead ones .
Your ether a nazi or off to the camps with you.
I dont know anyone that would say no to an SS Storm trooper when he asked .
Are you a Nazi ?
Other than religious people with powerful morals and 90% of those said yes to .
The problem is when people disagree with some thing they just go to the simple oh internet not truth, I have this problem as well.
Every inch of this is relevant today, especially the part about Australia.
@GFrank2 USA is next
@Aussie Pom if Ordinary Men tells us anything... yes.
And he’s being interviewed by John Anderson
yet I'm not a nazi yet. falsifying documents, refusing mandates and speaking out against the company that is the Australian government. Mabey I woulda been killed early. but ur wrong on man. preaching to the world about cleaning ur room. whilst Urs was a pig sti , drug addict
@Aussie Pom bro you’re so clueless and out of touch with Australian politics then🤦♂️
In aussieland my guy we prefer if the government has control but we just don’t particularly like politicians and most of the time you’ll find that we don’t care for our “freedoms” if they’re for the greater good
Peterson is an intelligent man. I learn a lot from him and he’s helped improved myself.
“No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good," --C.S. Lewis
@Bobert Wiltshire Only works if you have an ideology bigger and more powerful than you to excuse you from responsibility for it.
@@stevewalker6240 or ill defined "equality"
I have a gut feeling CS Lewis was talking in a different context
@Bobert Wiltshire Yes officer, this guy here
Wheew that ain't no shit. When I did my 180 I had to deal with some things I had done and didn't realize how far the monster had taken things.
"You're not a good person Reuban, you are just lucky enough you never had to be anything otherwise".
- The jackal ( far cry 2)
That's a good quote, applies to most all of us in the modern age of luxury.
You can’t break a man the way you break a dog or a horse the harder you beat a man the taller he stands.
-The jackal
Believe it or not I knew that off the top of my head
Such a good game too
One of the best far cry games to date.
@Screw Kalergi that is a really random question. Why did you ask that?
Finally someone who actually listens to JP in a conversation
The observation by Jordan of confronting the monster within us to understand our capacity for good is right on.
It is. Dr P himself said that a safe man is a very dangerous man that has it under voluntary control. So I imagine that to even try to be good, you have have to know your monster and control it.
My favorite part of this video is I actually got to see a video of Jordan Peterson discussing with an actual sane person. A rare sight indeed.
This comment should get more likes.
@The Church of the FSM of Latter-day Pirates Thanks lol. What on earth does your username mean 😂
Ironic considering Jordan Peterson is clinically insane lmao
@@lukewarmape603 source?
@@lukewarmape603 if you don't understand what he is saying that simply makes you stupid
NO ONE has or would even offer you the unvarnished truth about history. That's the hard part about being a historian. If you're not looking at it from every possible angle you have no idea what you're talking about, and even if you DO you'd better believe you don't have it entirely right.
Major historical events are amalgams of thousands, or even millions of individual human beings.
To say "You would have been a Nazi", even if it's accurate, leaves a mighty wide range of possibilities between Reinhard Heydrich and Oskar Schindler.
If I were a German during WW-II and I owned a business I would have been a member of the Nazi Party. Duh. Or if I'd been a village dog catcher.
@@mqbitsko25 I would have joined for that uniform alone, Hugo Boss had some style.
Never trust history books - they are written by the winner.
@@realistic.optimist Except they're not. They're written by history book writers.
Much of what we know about the Vikings comes from the monks they took as slaves. The Mongol conquests were recorded by Chinese and Middle-Eastern witnesses. German generals wrote numerous books after WW2, yet the Russians published comparatively little.
History is sometimes written by the winners, but it has almost nothing to do with them being winners.
@@cass7448 Lmao, yes they are written by the victors, might even say by the survivors. Someone who has died can not tell his story. Historians on the winner's side write the books, the texts of the losers have been discarded for ages.
Your school will always teach you the other side is/was bad, they do not portray the situation from a neutral position. Keep that in mind. Even Herodotos influenced his works with the glory of the Greek while diminishing the power of other 'worlds' which we'd call countries/kingdoms up to this day. Why? Because the worldview of the Greek was that Greece was at the center of the universe.
I have been working with a counselor to overcome some anger management issues. One thing I have prided myself on, if I can even say that, is that since childhood I have always taken my anger out on things and not people.
One day recently I was so angry I had a impulse to strike my wife. In an instant I went from intense rage to complete remorse, and fear of myself. It changed me deeply. Some kind of monster I didn’t know existed woke up inside me and it terrified me. Funny enough, that was a turning point on my anger issues and it seems to have helped me finally gain some kind of consistent control.
Seeing my inner monster and just how destructive I have the capacity to be has redeemed me in a strange way.
"There is no substitute for character." What an absolutely precise and simple quote. I deal with this in my work all the time. I watch guys become perpetrators all the time and you look like the crazy one for having morals and ethics. I spend so much time making sure I'm doing right by the customer first when I see other guys in other industries do the same thing they immediately get my repeat service. Fortunately there are enough guys in my work who are the same way or I'd have probably quit that job by now.
The thing is that Jordan Petersen's character is rotten so I really don't understand how he could ever be taken seriously when talking about other people's character.
"Why are there so many quotes in this comment section?"
-Mahatma Ghandi
Lol! Thanks for laugh
"Yea, they do that a lot around here." - Albert Einstein
"Y'all better go on before I lose my composure out dis bitch!"
John Stuart Mill
This is excellent Academic clickbait as I thought he was actually referring (specifically) to his client at the beginning in the thumbnail!
@Yu Tubaru "Could you use that power to help me with an issue?"
- Adolf Hitler
“There’s no substitute for character”
- Jordan Peterson
Wow, what a quote!
TRUTH
"You don't get to paradise without harrowing hell first."
Not sure if he's referencing someone else's quote there but that's also a great one.
Define "character". The current definition isn't the same as it was 100 years ago and it won't be the same 100 years from now.
WTF does "character" even mean? This is such a nothing statement.
@@cass7448 character is what differentiates a person from the norm. Just like you have a cynical characteristic to you.
"there's no substitute for character"
Truthful statement.
I read Ordinary Men after listening to one of his lectures years ago. It was a really tough read, terrifying in the way it made me reflect. I had to read it several times, trying to accept that we all could’ve been one of them, or something like it. Being someone who has lost the will to do good. I find it to be an almost impossible thought.
I certainly got the point though, thanks to careful review of Jordan’s lectures on it.
I made this argument against my mum and sister once and they couldn’t see my point. I argued to them that had we been born in the south in the US in the 1800’s we’d almost definitely have been racist and they disagreed saying they’d have been nice to the slaves and would help them. Absolute bs, it’s how they were raised back then
Good point, but I'd argue if they had been born anywhere in the US in the 1800s, they would've most likely been racist. Racism definitely wasn't confined to the South.
@@wesleysmallwood413 Pretty much every society at that point was racist.
Very true that. I think that's why I have such contempt for the neo-putitans and the virtue signalers. They think they're so good and morally superior when in actual fact they're just mere mortals like the rest of us but they think they're basically Jesus.
You’re clearly not well-read on the history of antebellum America. Tocqueville wrote extensively about America’s racial tensions and prejudices, in which case he identified the Northern states, not the Southern states, as the general perpetrators. Indeed, it was only upon Reconstruction that these tensions and prejudices swept entirely across the Southern states.
Its not almost certain you'd of been racist- it would be much more certain that you'd be _indifferent_ to racism- which isn't a whole lot better because you're essentially enabling racism by not being against it.
At some point, enough people that are against racism have to make a stand against it. At some point, enough people had to speak out against racism in order to gain momentum and start to show the culture how evil slavery and racism is.
I'll use Communism as a more recent example; my family _escaped_ a communist country (not Russia) in the 70's. Its not a communist country anymore today and hasn't been since essentially the Soviet union collapsed- but having visited this other country several times in the last 10 years, I've run into all sorts of people that range from 100% still supportive of communism to the other end where they'd rather die fighting than live under communism for even 1 minute.
My point is, there will _always_ be a mixed bag of people regarding any system. I'm sure regarding slavery and racism, many were *indifferent* while only some were for it, and of those some that were _for_ it, a smaller amount even owned slaves. Most people are indifferent because they're too busy looking out for themselves. Under communism, many just kept their heads down and continued to stand in the bread lines or accept rationed milk, meat and eggs because everybody else around them (for the most part) did as well.
I am italian and when we study ww2 in school we read about both sides, the weirdest thing is that you grow up knowing fascists were bad but then you realize that they were yours greatgrandfathers and you would and up being one too if you were born at that time, it's a really weird sad sensation
Crazy! Real crazy to think about.
I am German. In my generation (1972) it was quite usual to ask yourself the question: What would I have done? A very important question, indeed.
No worry bro you switched sides after
@@hatred520 fucking when? Lmao, in Italy a neo fascist party is almost the most voted... Sadly we've never been a socialist country
@@alessandrogalvan277 October 13, 1943
This man has a keen and well earned understanding of the difference between right and wrong. And that's what it really all comes down to is doing the right thing. Intelligence like his is very rare indeed. We're all endowed with a brain, but because someone instilled in him a love of reading, and he took advantage of it, he has an insight into things that you can only get from reading and reading and reading. It's the only way I myself have ever learned anything, Besides trial and error. Canada should keep him as a national treasure. If you don't have to like the man, but it's very hard to find logical arguments against him and his thought process. Benjamin Franklin.
This isn’t my first time watching this. I watch it every time it comes up on my recommended feed.
So basically what im getting is, "you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain." Should be rather portrayed as, "The only reason heroes exist, is because they were the ones that could see themselves as villains, and chose to do good instead."
That’s why the only fictional hero I find to be a real hero, is Batman. He knew that anyone, even himself, could succumb to the temptation of evil. That anyone of them could justify villainous actions through skewed views of justice, vengeance, and “needed sacrifice”. Whether you hold the might of millions of men in one finger as Superman, or were just a man like Batman, anyone could be dangerous and to be a true hero, you have to understand that.
People hated Batman or disagreed with him often because he told the unbridled truth, the dark reality of the Justice League and all hero’s, that no one is truly righteous, not unless they know the worst of themselves.
People hateJordan Peterson for the same reason. He relays the truth of humanity, the truth of our potential of great good and great evil. And people are not fond to hear the truth.
@@darthalmighty6639 you say that as if Superman hasn't also done the same self-reflections.
@@jamainegardner4193 Let's also forget that it's Spiderman's entire ethos.
@@darthalmighty6639 isn't this the symbolism of Hulk's character? At least in The Incredible Hulk?
@@darthalmighty6639 How much attention have you given to the fictional hero concept then? The "struggle between good and evil" isn't just the good guys beating up the bad guys because that's far too simple and gets old quick. Many fictional "hero" stories explore that concept by showing both the "heroes" and "villains" in a more complete light that includes the moments of "good" and temptations of "evil" and eventually returning to the status quo. Fiction is one of the easier ways to explore that stuff because it isn't "real".
“There’s a beast in every man, and it stirs when you put a sword in his hand” -ser Jorah Mormont
"“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”" - Nietzsche
Dude quote Martin not his character
@@skooptywooop1030 quoting the character is quoting the author. unless you aren't smart enough to figure that out, in which case the quote is probably lost anyway.
@@phogol Some people aren't going to read a book or watch a show, I think that doesn't mean someone is less intelligent here. So just quote the author directly.
@@skooptywooop1030 not according to MLA...good thing we have a standard or ppl like you would start making up dumb ass rules all willy nilly.
This hit me in a very personal way. I’ve had a number of times where I had to confront the darker parts of my nature and face that I was the bully and the villain in a situation. I still regret things that I’ve said and done to people that were weaker than me, especially considering how much bullying I was subject to when younger. I’ve taken that shame though and use it to make sure that I haven’t done it since and try to stand up when I see it happening to others.
It reminds me of one of my favorite fan theories from the MCU. In The Avengers, the old German man that stood up to Loki was probably a member of the Hitler Youth and regrets things that he said, did, or thought and was compelled to stand up to Loki so that he didn’t make the same mistakes.
That is a strong thing to say.
Ive also been a victim alot of times in my life, but because all evil stuff ive done to others stuff like me being stabbed doesnt do anything to me, because it feels like i deserved it etc.
But due to that weird mind set i have apperently developed ptsd according to doctors which iam in treatment for - gone 40+ times and barely scraped the surface, ive told i nailed a guy to a tree and sold a gun that was used to shoot at a house to my psychiatric ( luckily no one got hurt that time. ).
But so many things i just cant say, feel so ashamed to say ive chopped peoples fingers off, taken someones wife and kid down to the playground while my other friends beat the shit out of the father ( because we got angry that there was heroin spoons on the table where a 3 year old ran around + the debts he already had. ).
But it is super shameful to talk about it, and partly i believe it is because for many years i didnt care about it at all, i was so off thinking ( they knew what they got into, they got what they deserved, then i forget about it. )
But somehow the past started comming up as flashbacks later in life, i dont feel anything about remembering when people put a gun to my head, but i remember every feeling when once someon came with a tigersaw to take a guys finger and i had to explain for him i wanted a hammer and a knife.
Doctors and stuff talk about forgiving yourself, but how can i, it feels like iam even a waste of space there - because how many has i given traumas? And there i sit having trauma for giving people trauma - to me it feels quite just. But it doesnt help me with my life dragging that backage, i suppose that is why i watch alot of these videos, only thing ive come to conclusion to is i really wish i was a Christian believer, read the Bible and Quran so many times and wished i could just belive - but i cant.
Damn sorry, didnt mean to spew all this out, just wanted to say thumbs up for you
What exactly had the Hitler youth done, that was like Boy Scouts
Oh man, that "letting the fifth column in" bit is exactly what is happening to Disney right now...such an insight
"It's a very rare person who reads history and identifies with the perpetrators."
Read that as pop smoke 😭😭
Well to put it simply, if you hear the words to a song you like enough, after a while you know the words and their meanings.
If you pay attention early in life, you can learn the meaning of life. And the broad view of The Human Condition.
PS. The meaning of life:" is in of itself." Meaning: you must find a life for yourself, that has meaning to you.
You don't know what you would do in a situation unless it actually happens. To protect our families, how many of us would have been a Nazi. Interesting thought.
Victors aren't always the righteous.
Sometimes I feel empathy for the perpetrators
It’s so good to see Jordan here. Feels like he’s just having a great conversation with a friend instead of being called a Nazi by 19 year olds who haven’t read a lick of history. Love this man
Was thinking the same, this interviewer is good. Finally one ffs
"You don't get to Paradise without harrowing Hell first." Ain't that the truth.
"It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy.
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb."
-Gabriel Angelos
Just today I told that to my family
That everyone is capable of being a horrible person... Being nice is simply a deliberate attempt we make each day... Everyone has the potential to do terrible things...
@akrinah thinking that SJWs are actually a group to consider any that’s too is silly. Unless you are just lumping the term to everyone you don’t like.
So I watched this about 2 years ago and thought “hmmm that’s interesting but I don’t think that’ll happen in America.”. 2020 has been an interesting year
After hearing this, I even more proud of my family. My great-grandfather was a traveling preacher and farmer, and he preached against Hitler and the Nazis. Got arrested, and almost sent to prison camp. The only reason he wasn’t was because they desperately needed farmers and his family couldn’t run the farm (young kids one of whom was my grandfather and his wife). So he was put on “house arrest” (couldn’t leave the farm basically) with guards. He never changed his mind or words about Hitler. I don’t know too much more as this was told third hard to me. Brave man.
A lot of people say they wouldn't have been a Nazi, an inquisitor, or a slave holder, yet most do not respond when asked "what unpopular opinion do you hold that has had real world consequences?"
Right now I would say being unvaccinated, wouldn't you say?
This is so true, as a Christian whenever I read the bible I would get angry at the Israelites always backsliding but one day when I looked at my own life I realized that there is nothing different between me and them; chances are if I was put in the same situation I would have done the same or even worse.
Jordan Peterson is a gem, these are profound truths all men and women should know.
Bless you. It's certainly better than thinking that the Other must be evil which is the usual choice people make.
I think most of us would have part of the “back to the fleshpots of Egypt” crowd.
Apparently Bible scholers say Jesus was tooken out of the old testimony by these lawyers and king Josiah or chosiah, Only Isaiah and the songs of David were all that was allowed in there doctorien and it was because they did not know it said Jesus the Messiah, Son of God would come and die and rise again
@@johnschuh8616 I have to disagree. When you have God leading you by fire at night and a cloud during the day, when you have God feeding you manna every morning, when God starts your journey by parting the Red Sea, you have to have a very stubborn heart to rebel. When the first group that rebelled was swallowed by the earth, when Moses struck the rock and water flowed from the rock, you have to be extremely thick skulled to doubt God and rebel. When the waters of the Jordan were stopped, after all the miracles and battles that had been won, you still doubt God? If so, you deserve 40 more years in the wilderness until your generation dies.
@@scottishwarrior3547 Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. Several of David's Psalms are also specifically about Jesus. The person who told you that was mistaken.
"Don't compartmentalize it. This is about you."
Then I'd tell you didnt understand a single word.
朱海 you can say that all you want. But the fact of the matter is, you didn't live in Nazi Germany and you make your statement from the perspective of someone who is looking back and saying how you would act of you were suddenly thrust back into that time period and not someone who is currently living in that period of time.
That's not how history works. One is supposed to learn from it.
朱海 except you won’t or have possibly been raised as a hitler youth, what then? The belief that you would magically not be a Nazi just because is arrogance at its peak.
ECS Daemon i have a question do u want to live? Do u like eating? More importantly do u love ur family? These are all self interests and in nazi Germany they would be top of ur list, and if u wanted a easy way to take care of those things u join the nazi party... also the alternative is that u and ur family are executed for not being with them.... sooo hey not so much talking from experience but off of A. The experience of survivors. B. Human instinct to be fed and protect theyre family. C. By those things still happening today and by that i mean theives, muggers, killers, hitmen, politicians and well much much more. So before u ride off into the sunset on ur high horse and take a look around look up from ur phone and unless ur in ur basement.... do u see people? Tell me how many of those people would u kill to protect ur child? Tell me if u could kill one of them hell just ur least favorite one and save 3 or 4 people depending on family size... would u? Well if ur answer is yes then u could see how people can get to the point of doing anything even if they hate them selves... just to stay alive and keep others they love alive as well
I could listen to this man speak all day
As a German I often thought about what I would have done at the time. I think a good starting point is to look at people from your own family. For my family it was mixed. One man had been in a different party before it was forbidden and he continued to greet people with "Guten Tag" instead of "Heil Hitler", but he withdrew from politics when all other parties were made illegal. Another man was a member of the Nazi party as he believed Germany had been unduly humiliated after WW1 and needed to be renewed. He took significant benefit for his business as a carpenter as he could get orders from the state-controlled postal service. Two other men died in Russia and Poland respectively as soldiers, but I do not know about their political views. They were not party members.
I think we need to start download JP's videos before CZcams decides that it's dangerous borderline hate speech
Absolutely right
NWO take over now in place all sorts of politicians and journalist who are right wing and not even a threat surprisingly are now considered "nazis" and must be shut down from the internet because of there supposed "hate speech."
I'm assuming that this time next year he'll be banned from CZcams.
If you click on the 'professor against political correctness' tab on his channel, several videos are already gone
@Layman's Terms Stop.Propaganda is and has been used throughout history by left and right and by any form of politcs.
It's just happens that today more left leaning ideas are more accepted and are being a bit more exhibited.
But still every opinion is being expressed and there is propaganda by the right wing too,just less accepted by the mainstream.
That's just it.It is in no way comparable to the Nazis and what their reign was about.
Stop being ignorant.
"I would have stood up and fought the nazis if I was alive in 30s Germany!!!"
*is an actual brown shirt in 2020*
Yea until the person actually sees what the Germans did back then... people have to face it, we'd all be Nazis, we'd have no choice. I see that most, if not all kids today are becoming more facist by the day. We just call it Social Justice now.
@@krds5681 "nice" social justice... Another example is Argentina.
Sad but true.
AntiFa, BLM, our democratic socialism movement?
@@michaelreilly3100 Lord of the Flies.
Someone told me that wartime PTSD was not so much about the horrible things one had seen, but about finding out what one could be pushed to do which conflicted with the entire concept of self.
"Im too drunk to taste this chicken"- Col. Sanders.
"You don't have the strength of character to do good until you know exactly the kind of monster you can be." Damn...
This jumped out at me too
It’s true, and that’s why people hate him. People don’t like to hear the truth.
And its a hard truth to.
That's heavy.
That is what Jesus taught 2000 years ago. We have no riteousness of our own . All have sinned .none are riteous no not one. You must be born again. Not by your own effort or by the will of man but of God. Jesus told people that truth.. people are self riteous and wont come to the savior cause they wont admit they are wretched . Jesus told people they are sinners who need to be saved they hated him for it and put him on a cross. But he went willingly. He who did no sin took the punishment we deserve that if we place our faith in him we xan be saved. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever beliveth in him might not perish but have everlasting life. The gospel is the good news. But you have to admit the bad news first .that you are not riteous that you are a wretched sinner in need of being saved. You wont go to a docter if you dont belive you are sick.. you have to admit that you are evil and ask Jesus to save you
I'm not a monster, I'm a potential one.
We all are capable of a lot more than we can fathom, and it's that realization itself that is key.
Will Lawrence and it’s not a complex thought, just one that most don’t wish to entertain. Which is horrifying in and of itself.
I find this a very difficult discussion as it has an impact on my own experiences. In a sense I was up until my late 20's the "naive" person he describes, specifically on the subject of women and relationships.
Then I got a "serious" girlfriend and she cheated on me, and it turned my entire world upside down. Although I'd been aware of the concept of cheating, and although I'd been on the receiving end of malevolence throughout my life (bullying etc.) I'd consistently found that when people liked me and got to know me, they tended to want to stick around and be loyal. That someone could have taken the time to be very emotionally and physically intimate with me over a period of months and have been lying about their intentions the entire time - essentially using me for their own egotistical gratification - and then for them to go seeking something elsewhere behind my back knowing full well their actions were hurtful to me - a very cold malevolence - had never crossed my mind.
I think this was also exacerbated by me being a very "passive" person, because in a sense, as a tall and strong boy and subsequently man with an angry, confrontational father, I had been non-naive about certain monstrous behaviours - I had always been aware and afraid that I could lose control of my own anger, "hulk out" and seriously physically harm someone. This meant I shied away from conflict and wasn't prepared to stand up for myself, which made me susceptible to people like my ex-girlfriend. It's funny how you can simultaneously go too far in both directions, being both aware of your monstrous potential but unaware of a different kind of monstrous potential in others.
My ex and I have not talked in many years and it still angers me that she showed no remorse over her actions and is apparently now living a happy, consequence-free life on the other side of the world. It's easier for me just to dismiss my ex as a "monster" for her behaviour but JBP's line of thought seems to suggest that is incorrect. This is difficult for me to come to terms with.
The only difference between a Man/Woman & a Monster, is Introspection & Self Control. We are all Monsters, but some of us use that Primal Drive to be better than our Base Urges. "Good men don't need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many" The Doctor, from Dr Who, in response to someone calling him a good man. Truer words have not been spoken. Before we get morons with denial on high horses spouting absolute crap, the quote applies equally to Women, you are not immune just because of vagina.
Every Human was born with a 50%-50% balance of Good & Evil, it's up to us to chose which side to lean on & tip the balance towards.
That's the whole point of What Jordan Peterson said. Also as I stated, the only thing stopping you from being the Monster is Introspection & Self Control.
If you don't question those base urges & seemingly excusable actions, you are a monster. If you do question them, but still do it, then you are an even bigger monster.
One of my favourite sayings is "You are always in the shit, it's only the depth that varies".
"Oswald definitely had aimbot on"
-John F. Kennedy
I cannot overstate the gratitude & respect I have for JP & the things he’s taught me!!
He has deepened my understanding of religion & science and helped me to understand what geniuses like Einstein meant when they stated that their scientific understanding brought them closer to God!
I took an amazing class my senior year of high school. It was called American Problems. the class was made up of four simulations; one for each quarter of the year. We would prepare for a sim, do a sim, and then debrief. The first simulation was that of a Totalitarian Society. 2 weeks where there was nothing but the state. In school, out of school, at work, at play, they were watching. They knew where we would be at all times of the day, and they would do random checks to verify. All the things you would expect to come with a totalitarian society were there. Except instead of the threat of death to keep us in line, it was points to be gained or lost. I was indicted for treasonous thought crimes against the state and I lost nearly all my points. Now I was desperate. I stabbed by best friends in the back to get points back. Had them indicted for things I knew they hadn’t even done. I had enough points to pass again, but now my friends actually hated me. They continued to be mad at me for weeks over my betrayal, even after the simulation had ended. They eventually forgave me. The point is, in just two short weeks my loyalty to my best friends was surpassed by my fear of the state.
this sounds like old soviet union for me
This is the world we will be living in soon thanks to overkill reaction to covid.
You proved his point, we are all potential monsters.
@@hardset-vi3ze we are monsters who have an abundance of resources atm so our demonic side doesn't need to come out and play, just like an animal with a full stomach will more than likely leave prey animals alone.
Look at the problems people look for today, they're pathetic and a complete waste of time... thats the demonic side rearing its ugly head via social justice.
hardset2000 absolutely.
Jordan’s point about being complicit with or active in the Nazi actions is spot-on.
EVERYBODY’s weak point is their spouse, child, family, friends. And every single dictator knows to exploit that. Many people are not worried about their own physical safety, but it’s another thing to accept that your own child, family, or inner circle could be hurt in your name.
Clearly Perterson is correct for mid-late 1930s Germany. Usually most of us realize that. The big question is, back when Nazism was first forming, why did nobody fight back? From the early Nazi/Communist rivalry for power against the moderates in the early/mid 20s to the rapid growth in popularity following 1929, during this essential period no one wanted to/was capable of opposing extremism?
George Brantley most people don’t read the signs. They’re caught up in day-to-day.
@SwordSorcery2020 Yeah the Nazi and Communist parties in Germany were rivals for control of government back in the 1920s. Both thought they could do much better than the moderates in charge at the time. The Nazis won, of course, and Hitler eventually became chancellor, etc.
@SwordSorcery2020 Read the early chapters of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". Also several scenes in the movie version of "Cabaret ". I think there are scary similarities to the West in 2020. Hope I'm wrong.
George Brantley If you think about why no one fought back, the power struggle was during the Great Depression, and Germany at the time was the worst place in the world because of the depression and the ww1 treaty. Bread was a million euros. And when half of the population is starving, and one mustached guy proclaiming the resurgence of greatness by killing some phantom bad guy, people took whatever exit they could get. Other countries couldn’t do anything either because of the depression, and they chose appeasement, letting Germany gobble up Poland and Czechoslovakia before France called foul from getting invaded.
We have to accept our darkness to find out light
We need both
Jordan Peterson message has been extremely helpful to me trying to improve my life and myself. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would be against what he does and says! I just don't get it!
Because he mixes genuinely good advice with false propaganda, misinformation and harmful behavior.
I think way less people would hate on him if he was just an idiot who couldn't say one right thing if he tried, they would just ignore him as most people ignore others like that.
@@Anankin12 Exactly what 'false propaganda' are you talking about? Because I really can't think of anything he's ever said that could be construed as false propaganda, or even misinformation for that matter!!
If you could please tell me I'm genuinely curious?
@@Anankin12 yes please, I'd love to know too, I haven't noticed anything sketchy yet
@@Anankin12 me too, I want to know. Seriously.
@@B.Mega.D anything related to IQ and jobs he said is completely bogus.
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IQ is a statistical predictor, but actually has very little meaning for the individual. That's one example, there are others but I won't bother finding them unless you ask me. IMHO this one is sufficient to rule anything he says in the field out because if he's misinformed about such basic stuff, I'm not trusting him to know his stuff on more complex subjects in the same field.
It's the person that has the humility and self-reflection to admit they could have joined the Nazi party that is ironically likely to be the one that wouldn't be a Nazi. The people who are certain, are the ones that would have been Nazi's simply because they lack introspection of themselves and others. Even Orwell wrote about how charming Hitler was and that's because Orwell has a gift for brutal honesty, not because he is a Nazi. Orwell was literally antifascist, not some arrogant poseur declaring themselves morally superior.
Underrated comment
fascism is a response to communism. So to be Anit-fascist is to be communist and upset that someone is hindering your attempts to get everyone killed. Literally the fastest way to create Nazi's is to offend them with wokeness and then try to force them to swallow as much wokeness as they can stomach before they get mad.
@Junked Life not by much.
@Junked Life Fascism was created by Musolini after he felt let down by communism. (Yes at first Mussolini had comunistic ideas. Most probably there were forerunners before that, but they are forerunners the same as revolutionaries tearing down the " higher clases" might be called communistic. But either way the ideology becomes one when it is clearly defined.
@Junked Life Musolini put it on paper in essence, many ideas that founded it came before that yes, but then the same can be said about Marx and Engels and their communism. The republic under military leader is in essence a dictatorship so if we go by that logic the romans created it. But if we go by that logic then first communist came to be when first peoples rose up against their aristocracy and tried to create a egelatarian state. And that would deffinetly place it before any republics under a sole ruler.
Eilither way might be mistaken but thats atleast how i understand this topic
The Stanley Milgram experiment on behavioural conditioning will always stick with me, because it's a good indicator that people in large numbers, supported by a person in position will allow all sorts of evil to happen. It wouldn't matter what political position you hold, you will sus on your neighbor given the chance.
Not *everyone* in the milgrams experiment went to the extreme - the point about Milgrams is that it shows that people will often follow authority further than they might like to admit, not that *everyone* will. It is not your political persuasion, but it *is* the type of person that you are. Have you ever wondered why people on the right are usually so much in agreement on so many issues - your political persuasion has a lot to do with what sort of person you are, more than you might be aware. Jonathan Haidt is very good on this.
@@jamspandex4973 as much as I agree, that is a very small # when you apply it to millions. When everyone is in the field is facing the same threat YOU would not be against the grain if you didn't know the outcome.
Peterson wants you to imagine yourself as the Nazis rather than the targeted groups that resisted them.
@@joemomma5814 Well, there you go, making the same mistake as peterson, generalising and saying that YOU would - you know nothing about me ! and just think of all the people who LEFT Germany when the Nazis came to power - and they were NOT all jews. all YOU can legitimately say, and all Peterson can legitmately say is that *statistically* there is a high probability that *people* would have become Nazis. But it is all bullshit anyhow, since it is predicated on being able to transfer people back in time to a different era, with their personality in tact, so the entire discussion only makes sense if you allow that hypothetical situation. And if you allow that then I know damn well that I wold not be a nazi, since I have been involved in campainging against Nazis and white supremecists for over nearly 30 years.
In fact the *only* way in which what peterson is saying makes sense, is if he means, "if you had been born and brought up in genrany during the rise of the nazis, then you would likely have bceome a Nazi" and I have no problem with that AT ALL, it is most likely true, but it is not a profound statement in ANY SENSE, no more profound, than saying if I had been brought up in Saudi Arabie, I would be a muslim, or if I had been born in China, I would have been Chinese. If I had been born and brought up as a slave owner in the United states, I would have owned slaves, etc. Because in each of those cases you would have been brought up with the values of the time. But so what ? What do any of those hypotheticals have to say about ME, NOW ? I wasn;t brought up then, I was brought up towards the end of the last century, so my values are different.
So If , with my current values, could be transported back to Germany during the rise of the fascists, then I know damn well that I would have been on the demonstrations fighting again them during their rise to power, and would probably have left Germany as soon as I could when it looked like they were going to win, just like thousands of others.
The thing about Peterson, is that he knows some things, and then he wildly extapolates, to assert reasonable sounding, but completely baseless claims about things he is not really expert in. You need to read some of the history of the oposition to the Nazis that existed, yes, even between 1939 - 1945.
The mistake that Peterson makes here, is that people who join the police are authoritarian by nature, so of course it was easier to imagine them becoming a full on Nazi. And when he talks about "it was top down auhoritarianism" that is complete bullshit, since the police are an intrinsically authoritarian organisation any how, just look at the US police and how they behave during civil protests.
So at best what Peterson is really saying, is that "if you are a police officer "type", then if you had been living in Nazi Germany, you would have been a Nazi", and I have no problem with that. The problem I have, is in people saying that *any specific person* would have been a Nazi, pure and simple, which is not supported by evidence, and there is plenty
of evidence to the contrary.
Indeed, I personally, have always thought of things from a slightly different perspective - one of the French resistance. And it is this, imagine someone that you know, and then think, if they had been in France under the occupation, would they have been an eager collaborator, a reluctance collaborator doing so out of fear, or in the resistance ? I know many people, who I feel would certainly have been active collaborators, even gladly joining the Nazi party. Howver, I like to think that I would have been in the resistance, however, I however, I very openly conceded that in reality, I may very well have been too cowardly to put my life at risk, and as such, would have likely pretended to go along with everything, while secretly hating the Nazis and doing anything I could to undermine them without actually putting myself in danger.
So my take away on this is DON'T believe Peterson on anything he says when he starts to generalise outside of what he knows, In this case, he is not a historian. He may well have been correct about his assessment of this woman - he should have known her by that point, but his implication that willingly going along with everything is what *everyone* would have done is just bullshit.
@@jamspandex4973 you mad bro? Starting to make me think You did & want to deny it so as not to get prosecuted. Its not an attack on you personally its a human trait that you cannot overcome with thought..only with action & actions are very predictable
"Don't trust what you read on Twitter" - George Washington
cool!! WASHiNGTON HAD WiFi!!!
"There is no substitute for character"
In 2018 I saw a German Comedy film called “Look Who’s Back”. It’s about Adolf Hitler in 21st century Germany. Many people opposed him because of what he did. But listening to him addressing his audience and what he spoke about I realized: “Wow. He actually talks a lot of sense. If I knew Hitler, I have to admit, I would have followed him.” Maybe that was the message the filmmakers tried to communicate.
Great movie, his speech at the end was really good acting wise imo i think it captured hitlers charisma
Oh for sure especially after you consider the climate during that time being humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles and having a person come through and take back what was (rather agreed upon by history) unfairly taken from them. Seeing the economy turn around. Watching employment rise and the cleaning of the streets like red light districts, crime and overall well-being of a nation. That's what you would have experienced.
Great movie, pointing out how we ignore reality for the 15 min of fame, and, populism is praised over common sense.
The man needs respect where respect is due
Dude! I am just now learning about this. As for someone who is trying to learn German and has been to Germany before, I will definitely be watching this film here soon.
this guy basically predicted 2020 perfectly
cause and effect. he predicted it, but he fails to acknowledge the root cause, or even attempt to give a realistic solution to solve the problems these "groups" are protesting against. people can't just sit back and endlessly wait for things to change, and obviously words weren't doing much.
FlamingLips79 this is a very short clip. If you do more research I’m pretty sure you’ll find that he will tell you the root cause of all this chaos and the solutions for it. I leave the research up to you my friend.
Facts.
FlamingLips79 I don’t think Aaron Webb is referencing the BLM riots, as in BLM as a movement for change. I think he’s referencing BLM as a organization run by Marxists who have carried the riots past change for equality and just want to overtake cities
@@arielle5037 he doesn't give solution to this kind of chaos. he only point out the problems and that's it.
I finally understand the meaning behind the Monster anime. At first, I was underwhelmed by the ending as it seemed to build up all the hype just to end like that but I guess it made sense as an psychological horror and the ending is supposed to make you ponder.
However I digress, I think the general message was that anyone could be a monster as Dr.Peterson said as one environment can greatly influence how once turns out (nature vs nurture). We as humans hate being alone and cast out as it literally affects the same region of our brain that registers physical pain as we are social beings. So we will greatly go out of our way to avoid being outcasted (myself included) even if it means compromising our morals and doing monstrous things. We have no right to say we would never do such a thing if we never experienced the same circumstances.
This was a great piece and I pray to God that one day can get over this evil spirit of cowardice of going against the grain because many breakthroughs like women’s franchise, freedom from slavery etc were. caused by going against the grain.
Jesus Christ (my lord and saviour) did the same and was willing to give his life for the world so I know that to have the ultimate conviction you need to be willing to put your life on the line.
Jordan Peterson, you are a valuable asset to all humanity.
As Solzhenitsyn said, "The line between good and evil runs through the heart of every man."
not mine. 🐺
@@arcaneflame4696 so you are a woman
christian bale I think that woukd be the sensitive little sheep so worried about doing what daddy tells him. Wolves eat sheep ya know, sheep.
DGX37 I was just having fun. Its a place you can say anything. I dont try to 'troll' or be hurtful. I just like to be weird ya know. Like back when trolling was harmless. I was just letting myself out in a creative way.
I suppose with the weird media, it seems like they are trying to implement immorality onto children, which I could see children idolizing celebrities.
My take is very different. I despise the idea of parents not raising their children properly. I mean a wolf would raise its child and protect it. I see it as a weakness and insanity. I think alot of this insanity comes from virtues implemented onto them thats not pure or their own. Telling them they have to be sheep. Religion plays a major part of it. Everything is the fence.
To me being a wolf means doing what you want and being independent, not being 'evil'. Although your virtues or 'morality' maybe very different as you have your own idea of what is right and wrong. So if that makes any sense to you.
Not true. There are some people who are so utterly evil that they have no goodness at all
He is right about it being a human trait. Too many comments here have the benefit of hindsight. He is talking about imagine you were there at that pint in time, not knowing what you know today, and under extreme stress to follow or die. People today can't even resist peer pressure to say no to a drink or something else to look cool to their friends let alone do so with their lives and families lives on the line.
Completely. The vast majority of us would just try to get by, not put ourselves or our family in danger etc. Just look at how many people don't even have time to stop in the street, yet we think we're going to risk our lives taking on an authoritarian regime in our own country?
I think it was Bill Maher that quipped, "you're not better than Jesus or George Washington, you were just born later." We like to think, "why, if I was there when the butcher/doctors of the time were bloodletting George Washington, I would have stood up and said, no!" Ehh, no you wouldn't have. Nor would you have been trying to stop the crucifixion of Jesus. We know it's wrong now, but back then, you didn't have the benefit of knowledge and history like we do now. Fifty years from now, very "woke" people will be telling the current crop of "woke" people just how awful they are and asking, why weren't you better back then?
I was thinking about a lot of our current social movements in that lens. We THINK we know what the right answer is now, but it might not match what we determine later. That's why opposing viewpoints, even if you think they are wrong, are important.
@@genevievec.8002 I agree. A world without debate scares me far more than a world where we disagree. I disagree with people all over the political spectrum all the time, and it's healthy.
@@3brenm it's true. That is why intelligent people going solo are dangerous.
You are forced to deal with them since you have nobody to threaten.
I promise there are still people whose values are so ingrained they would lose all for the idea.
Peterson often speaks good sense.
Jordan Peterson is a beast and I mean that in the nicest possible terms. A true honest person that you could meet.
Isn’t it eerie how Peterson predicted the mass 2020 mentality years ago?
Reagan did it 35 years ago.
All that's really needed to see the future, is to really pay attention today.
Discernment
@@moondawg3693 Imminent truth, if it's not already too late! Perhaps fate is merciful since one only needs a little attention to be alarmed now. Not unrelated is the opinion most people have of the Fed: "They're doing the best they can." A moment of critical thought sounds the alarm: "My God, what if that's true!?" If they are now doing the best things they can, and their approach will not get better, but is essentially on rails, the pending economic outcome must be like gasoline to political fire.
If that surmise is true, a new mandate of attention-paying must follow:
One must pay attention to all one can to what form successful shelter from economic and political fallout must take. For instance, some folks seem to endorse a lifestyle similar to that of the certain farmers who happened to live in a certain collective situation not of their making. I think I would like that lifestyle, except for working so hard😂. These people seem to have been wise and excellent people in their time without much noted interest in politics, except for the stubborn belief that they should be the ones to manage what they had painfully earned. But they couldn't overcome the ill-conceived envy of the powerful. At least I haven't heard of any who did, unless you define overcoming in terms of how well they endured deprivation and hardship. Can people today be wiser than those good old farmers and escape with lives intact? I don't know. But I'm going to pay attention to what the wisest are doing, if I can find out who they are, and if I can understand it, and if I can afford it. A lot of ifs
Glen Sire did it in 1963.
Well when you unlearn the past it most certainly becomes the future
The strange paradox is that once you realize that you probably would act like a nazi in ww2 , you are capable of not being a nazi by the enlightening power of making a conscious choice and the willingness to die instead of giving in to the little steps of fear that leads to hell on earth
absolutely true to be good you have to realize you have the possibility to be bad
An interesting thought but an absolute misunderstanding of the point, i know 100% that i would be a monster to protect my own child. How much of a monster is the question that he is asking. It's not a question of making a choice to not do so, it's understanding that often the "correct" decision in the moment is to be that monster for your own good. Unenlightened self interest is just as powerful as enlightened self interest.
@@egoish6762 doesn't he essentially make both points? You have to understand and develop the monster so you can control and use it by choice. Ignoring or pretending you aren't capable of these things just leads to lying to yourself and making justifications while doing horrific things for all the wrong reasons or no reason at all.
lmao nah
I'm honest enough with myself to know that I'd just conform. Knowing that doesn't change it...
Saying you'd be willing to die instead of simply gassing some strangers... idk about you, but I'd probably just let loose fingers Lenny handle the switch and hide in my room at best.
@@ashrafulalam3662 But what if your morals come from a place beyond life and death?
"Let me change the way you speak"
"Let me change the way you think"
Is some 1984 Orwellian Newspeak dystopian horror if I've ever heard it!
If everybody was as brilliant as Jordan Peterson, we'd all be living like the Jetsons now.
I mean, it's good that we're potential monsters. The definition of good isn't harmless, it's dangerous and powerful, that chooses to not be monstrous.
I think you mean Good. Capital G, as in the forces of Truth and Justice. Very harmful, if provoked. I consider flowers, babies, Care Bears good. Harmless.
yeah Peterson has said that same thing in other videos.
Matthew 5:5 "Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth."
@Captain Insano Shows no mercy merciful
The Meek will inherit, because the Bold will create a wasteland. Percieved slights, grievances, distrust, vengeance will culminate in at least some of those nukes being used. Entire populations will be decimated. A long post apocalyptic rebuild and probably an underground eugenics program. Aggressive and warlike people will be phased out. We will never see Utopia. But it is possible. Only after Hell on Earth
One of the most painful things I have ever seen is a documentary with a Japanese soldier who went to China and instantly found himself having to murder prisoners with all the other new officers under the supervision of their command. And how he talked about being an educated person who considered himself a humanist and the thoughts and madness running through his mind as he committed the act. Him trying to rationalize what was happening, how this could even be allowed, and how it would affect his family if he decided to back out then. It’s hard to watch him tell it, and if you can see him as a human and the same as you, how heartbreaking it is to have a window into someone’s mind as they start the transformation into a monster.
There was a psych study that looked into how people can slowly be turned into things they claim to be against due to group pressure and the need to fit in. They found it is a rare trait when someone stands on principle rather than following along, a very very rare trait.
The Holocaust was formalized in National Socialist Germany in January, 1942 a one-day meeting known as the Wannsee Conference. Mass murder had been going on for some time, but Himmler decided to go full on industrial mode as Germany absorbed most of Europe. Leaders from various parts of the Reich government were represented - police, transportation, manufacturing, etc. People think of the regime as populated with troglodytes. Of the 13 people in attendance, 7 held doctorates. When people talk about the government professionals knowing what's best for us, these are those people.
Note: I previously stated the Wannsee meeting was in 1943; it actually happened in 1942.
Stranden problem for people out Therese, to not be able to see other as human.
America under Trump.
America under Democrats.
Same. Same.
@@jonf2009no wonder everyone hates me for speaking up about things they agree with. Guess I’ve just got a rare trait.
Read the book, and it should be required reading. Spot on! 👍
You don't know what you'll do in any given circumstance until you're in it and fighting for your own survival.
I listen to Jordan Peterson interviews and speeches every night making my soul cleared and having peace of mind knowing that people like him do exist
“Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.”
― C.S. Lewis
well if you're a devil that gives eve more motivation to learn lol
As we learn we gain values.
@@jackdaniels9179 But for every lesson there's a positive value that can be taken away as well as a negative.
@@Megalomaniakaal I was undermining the cs lewis quote because we do not receive values before education.
@@jackdaniels9179 I think the quote applies to the education itself. I.e. As a teacher you should also teach values. Not just teach.
Ordinary Men is going on my must read list.
Welcome to 2021
"You think you would have rescued Anne Frank, think again." - Jordan Peterson
he isn't wrong though, people all like to think they would do the right thing, but most people wouldn't even go down the street to complain about bad government decisions if you wont go that far to speak how can you expect to go further and risk much more for someone else?
@@luggy9256 yeah, that was the joke
@@daanisch sorry, always iffy online and a lot of people will make similar comments to demonise him…
@@luggy9256 I’m not blaming you, I find that replying with “ok” turns people off the fastest
@@luggy9256 I totally agree, we can see now that people have all the freedom of the world to speak without being persecuted, and they are still afraid to speak against the bad decisions, imagine at that time when people would be executed just for the smallest rebellion.
[Unless you read history and identify with the perpetrator, you don’t understand at all...] wow, powerful
Maybe the Allies were the perpetrators USA Roosevelt was Suckered by Churchill British Empire Bullies and Stalin Commie Henchman those two wanted to Destroy Germany After WWI and more before WWII started.
What he said is true. People forget how easily people are talked into doing great evil. I myself recognize I am a monster. If my family was on the line there isn't anything I wouldn't do to spare them.
After 2020 it's true. There are people today who still wont see their family because of their medical decisions because strangers of authority told them too.
Peterson followed aswell he says he regrets it now but he still followed.
I ruined my son. I talk to him about thinking about everything in a deeper fashion, evaluating the good and the bad. I talked to him about the process of not complying (passive resistance) so that he could resist evil in the most effective way. Then we moved out of the country, and I had all my savings stolen by a foreigner living in Atlanta, GA. I tried to get a lawyer or some government agency to help, but I was left alone to deal with it. I went back to the U.S. to work five more years to have and save enough money to stay in our new country. I left when he was 12. I kept in contact, calling and talking with my family each night, but it wasn't enough. Between social medial and the pressures of high school, and just a mom trying to survive, he got into the video game/ alphabet group. No longer was he interested in doing anything but socializing with these mutually self-destructive groups. I was forced to leave at the worst time in his life, and i did what I felt I had to do, not realizing the harm that I was doing to this poor soul. I don't blame him; I blame me. Now he's living somewhere else with exactly the type of people you'd expect. We talk every now and then, but never about anything important because it ":triggers" him. He was my life. Now I'm alone.
So sad. But you can send him simple postcards that he can read and keep and slowly work your way to a new place. It sounds corny, but it worked for me.
He's right... the fact that so many Polish people saved so many Jews by risking their own lives and families is absolutely insane as the average person would never ever take that risk even though we all think we would sitting comfortably in front of our screen.
@Purty Princess love it. Deep and relatable. Arguably we're all born evil and most never overcome it, rather society forces us to repress it. Love the boss to employee example - perfection.
@Purty Princess you know, antifa think they're the sheep dog to. Also, imagining yourself as a Nazi officer instead a freedom fighter is the same type of niavity Peterson was criticizing in this video.
You won't make anything better by beating the shit out of some random leftists, the best thing you can do, is rewatch the video. You got the wrong message.
well, I think it was easier for Poles to save Jews, because they were all on that same boat. But as a Pole, I hate to admit that we weren't purely angelic. There were a lot of Poles that were selling Jews to Germans.
It wouldn’t matter what I did I’d be the first busted and shot . A hero for 5 minutes ( broken trumpet sound)
Many Polish people saved many Jews?
Makes no sense for me when you know what Poles did to Ukrainian, Czech and German people before ww2.
10:15 he basically predicted get woke go broke
They're not even protests. They're straight up anarchistic riots, and that is what AntiFa are all about. Anarchy.
Will John so is mlk a get woke go broke? The right love to use him as a “good activist” but he wanted to change people’s minds and he was beaten and killed for it by the same people who are now saying he was such a good man.
@@bojangles3518 I know that you are trying to say that today's LGBTQ+ community are yesterday's Black community, but you are wrong. There is no comparison, and it's insulting to even think that.
9:50 this man is, and always has been, a prophet, of a kind.
Brilliant but extremely frightening. Anyone who doesn't feel that (when watching this) has no grasp of what lies within each of us. In our lives, our hope is that we are never tested to the point where the darkness wins and our soul is lost. If, under those extreme circumstances, our good character wins, it's often the last decision we make. Bravo for speaking the truth, Dr Peterson.
Never underestimate humanity's potential for malice -Issac Netero
Every time I watch Dr. Jordan Peterson give a speech, I find myself reminded every single time that this man possesses a charisma that can spark movements. It amazes, inspires and terrifies me to equal degrees of each. He can make it so that time flies faster as you watch him; a discussion which should make minutes feel like hours instead makes minutes feel like seconds when delivered by Dr. Jordan Peterson.
This… Jordan’s charisma could be very dangerous if he chose to utilize it to such a degree. It reminds me of when he talks Jung’s integration of the shadow, because Jordan definitely has all the tools to influence the masses, but chose to put that charisma to good use👍
I find him obnoxious
@@aa10759tghj A learned and intelligent scientist can never be obnoxious. Dr.Peterson is a noble and distinguished gentleman epitomized.
@@ulrikjensen6841 sure they can.
@@aa10759tghj l find him blatantly passive/aggressive.
I read a book entitled The Invisible Jew about and written by a young jewish male who went right through WW2 living precariously in Germany with kindly Germans protecting him and feeding him. He was never sent to any slave labour camps. I don't know that good people are as rare as described by Mr Peterson here. For clarity, I am an admirer of Mr Peterson and the work he is doing.
Humanity is such a complex yet simple thing.
"Bruh stop quoting everyone"
Sun Tzu, The art of war
"Sorry"
Julius Caesar
“You first!”- Neil Armstrong.
This gave me a good laugh 😆
"Fuck you i'll do whatever i want!"
- Mahatma Ghandi
“Guys are you serious?we are literally nothing but memes at this point
Please stop”-Winston Churchill
People that let their kids be annoying is why 2020 happened.
Annoying kids caused COVID-19?
Yeah pretty much they believe in fairytales
@@darylblack7394 i mean they were storming the streets in crowds to protest the police not long ago. Crazy how only BLM protesting has magic protection from a worlwide pandemic and somehow doesnt contribute to the virus spread.
@@normanladdleschnitzel1928 people were crowding the streets to protest having to wear masks before that. Then they crowded bars and beaches when they tried opening things back up at a limited capacity before that too. Did you forget about those things?
@@darylblack7394 didn't see anything beyond people still hosting parties in my state until shit with BLM hit the fan. that is the reality for most non-coastal states brudda
I fully agree. My parents loved me so much they made me think they didn’t love me because they knew what destiny had in store for me. I had to become a controlled Monster over several decades. Finally, the Dark Side is fully embedded, leaving me fearless and strong. Great power confers Great responsibility and carefully measured steps must be taken in pursuit of the Future.