HeadShotSongs he was raised right here in my home town of Valdosta his house was at the corner of what is now troupe st and Savannah ave, I also visit his mothers grave she’s buried here at sunset hill cemetery.
I cannot imagine a more fearsome opponent in a gunfight than a recklessly brave gunslinger protecting his friends, knowing he will not see old age, regardless of the outcome.
@@bobbyricigliano2799 - Not to mention who's sobriety is often in question, and if not, having to worry if he's gonna shoot them, or you by accident because of the liquor.
Honestly doc's aim wasn't that good although he was indeed quick on the draw. In fact the shootout was the only confirmed kill he ever made which is probably why it's documented that he wept after the shootout and said "this is bad".
The fact that throughout all of his escapades Wyatt was never harmed by gunfire is crazy. Even Doc was grazed at OK Corral. Wyatt is really a real world example of plot armor.
Some men have a thing about them, I fought in Iraq. It's real, guy will just be unharmed and in the right place and position when something happens. Often people will find/lose faith from being unscathed while watching their friends and enemies get destroyed. Life is weird.
@@ShockTroop81 theres a show on netflix called oats studios. basically its a bunch of shorts but theres a short about this soldier in vietnam that basically has a "force" around him. bombs get blocked by trees hes next to, bullets seem to dodge him, etc. and they use some device to amplify his "power" but it just stuck with me because its so true that sometimes people just have this power. you see someone inches away from getting hit by a car on a CCTV camera. somehow the car just dodges them. its such a bizarre concept. real life main character stuff.
George Washington was also immune to bullets. He had two horses shot out from under him, and one battle alone acquired 4 bullet holes in his coat. Still never got a scratch.
Many years later a young reporter asked Wyatt Earp why when they had town meetings they were always held in a bar. Wyatt replied "At that time there weren't a lot of YMCA's in Tombstone"
I was born in 1957. We relocated to Tucson, Arizona in 1959. I visited Tombstone many times over the years. Much of the original town preserved as it was, yet modernized with electricity, running water etc. A civilzed, quiet place now. Tourist oriented. Hard to believe it was once so dangerous.
@@DarthRevan-rp5sn there is an OK Corral there, or the was the last time i visited. I assume it's on the actual property, not certain. Is it the actual corral from back then? I don't know.
This movie was compared against "Tombstone" endlessly and it should not have been. I love both films but they are apples and oranges. Tombstone was a classic western film with great acting. The perfect Saturday at the theater with a bucket of popcorn type film. Wyatt Earp (the film) went deeper into the backstory, both before and after the O.K. Corral. It is a deep and epic film. I would compare it more to Dances With Wolves as a film that went wide and far with a rich story and many layers of character development. The young and naive Wyatt Earp and his transition to the hardened lawman was a great plot. And while I loved Val Kilmer's version, Dennis Quaid probably risked his life to become such an emaciated and feeble (but deadly) Doc Holliday. A student of western films should be able to love both of these films without constantly comparing them.
I totally agree with u on that. Tombstone is my favorite western ever made. But I just got Wyatt Earp on dvd. And while I still like tombstone better. I still think it’s a good western, and a good film. To me I believe that’s why Wyatt Earp the film got crapped on. Was because it was compared to tombstone. So I enjoy both these films.
Bobby Ricigliano agreed. They are great films. Though I got a bias for tombstone mostly because I’m a huge Kurt Russel fan and I believe his portrayal is closer to what Wyatt may have been like only because of the distant connection of Kurt Russel and John Wayne. Kurt Russel played Earp similar to how he felt John Wayne would have tried to play him because John Wayne literally met and looked up to Wyatt Earp. John Wayne often said he portrayed himself as best as he could to Wyatt when he played western roles. Kurt Russel, who met John Wayne at a young age looked up to John Wayne and even worked with him and heard these stories as well. So allegedly Kurt Russels portrayal is the most likely vision of Wyatt Earp. Allegedly anyways. At the end of the day I’m just a fan of the guy because he’s from the old school Hollywood where a man acted like a man and did his stunts. I like Wyatt Earp as well because it was more grounded and showed Wyatt as less of a mythic hero and more of a deeply flawed man who just did what he had to do to survive.
Ike Clanton may have saved Wyatt's life accidentally. He stood in front of him yelling he was unarmed during a 30 second gun fight. I love ironic history.
@@tombryan1 Court testimony and the lot was only about sixteen feet across. Doc had pushed one of the cowboys back with the barrel of the shotgun. Movies are escapism. Not documentaries.
That almost imperceptible foot stumble when he starts off down the steps. Anyone who's been crippled up or really sick knows exactly that's what happens. Nice detail.
@@markpasse9691 unfortunately I actually changed my mind based on accuracy of the ok corral. Tombstone is a terrific villainesque Hollywood movie but Wyatt Earp was more accurate regarding doc holidays wound
@@markpasse9691 Yeah it was much more accurate the gunfight at the corral the Kevin Costner film, Tombstone was great but not accurate ,In TS Doc isn't hit when in reality he was shot in the leg. Ike done a runner in the Wyatt Earp film In TS he shouts I ain't armed then runs into fly's and grabs a gun and starts shooting. And Val Kilmer's Doc looked too healthy for someone dying from TB
so many people prefer the tombstone version over this version. but what you have to understand is this is much more realistic. very few shots were fired by each individual (as opposed to docs never empty six shooters in tombstone). ike clanton also ran from the scene almost immediatly following his plea with wyatt, unlike in tombstone where he steals a pistol and shoots at the earps from behind. Yes, the tombstone version is more intense and entertaining, but its hollywood. the slow, boring vibe of wyatt earp is much closer to how those gunfights would have played out.
I agree. This gunfight feels more realistic, and in my opinion, that actually makes it better. I also like Dennis Quaid's version of Doc Holliday over Val Kilmer's. I think that this gunfight actually is more entertaining due to it's realism. The one in Tombstone is low-key played for laughs. I can't take it seriously, but then I don't like anything about Tombstone.
Have to agree with Dennis Quaid's interpretation of Doc Holliday being more accurate than Val Kilmer's. Holliday was not a pleasant man... and though I prefer Tombstone as a movie, I'll have to say Wyatt Earp has the characters down just a bit more authentically.
Well it's a historic fact that Ike ran up to Wyatt and said" get to fighting or get out of the way" they left that out . Like the Tombstone version better.
IMO Wyatt Earp was a more accurate portrayal of Earp's life and probably more the kind of man Earp was. Tombstone was great, but it always came across to me as more a "hollywood" type film.
Tombstone will always be my favorite Wyatt Earp movie. As far as historically accurate Wyatt Earp movies go, this one was a tad closer, especially with the scene. All the correct people got killed or wounded as it was historically reported
Except that in the real gunfight the only one that had a gun was Billy Clanton the others were unarmed and Billy wounded one of the Eraps and doc holiday arrest warrants were issued for the watt Earp and docholiday for murder one of the Earps was killed later and another was wounded watt Earp went to calif and doc went to Colorado because they had arrest warrants for their arrest and also because they were shooting the Earp in the back at the o k corral only one man was armed one of them screamed I ain't got no guns I'm unarmed and Doc holiday shot him anyway Hollywood has a way of twisting things around to make it more exciting
@@crissoto3759 I thought most witnesses agreed that Frank McLaury had a weapon and fired it. I think a Colt revolver was found near his body and had 2 rounds left in it. I thought Tom McLaury was likely unarmed though the Earps thought he was armed and thought he fired once but no guns, gun belt or ammo was on his body.
@@crissoto3759 There were two trials, Wyatt and Holliday were tried and acquitted in both. Virgil Earp was acquitted, but was admonished by the judge for deputizing his brothers and Holliday considering the recent problems between the two factions. Billy Clanton and the McLaury's were armed. Tom McLaury was shot by Holliday as he was reaching over his horse for his Winchester rifle! Frank McLaury shot Morgan Earp and Billy Clanton shot Virgil Earp and Holliday. Ike Clanton was the only cowboy who raised his hands when ordered to give up their guns, and the the only one not shot at! Who shot at who depends on the witness, but there is no doubt that Billy Clanton and Frank McLaury were wearing their pistols and Tom McLaury was within reach of a rifle, and that Only Wyatt Earp and Ike Clanton were not wounded.
@@crissoto3759 Not true. Two left, Ike Clanton was unarmed and escaped. Frank and Billy both were armed. Tom was reaching for a Winchester on Billy's horse when he was shot by Doc. The Cowboys were threatening the Earps all that morning and they were waiting outside Doc's rooming house owned by Fly. Doc hit Tom under the arm as he reached.
@@shooterqqqq correct. If you're interested. The definitive book on the Ok Corral gunfight is titled "And Die in the West". A great read and researched spectacularly. Consensus and evidence strongly suggest that Doc actually started the firing first.
I never watched this film until I recently rewatched Tombstone and learned of the historical inaccuracies in the film. I really appreciate this films accurate representation of the history and it's ability to remain interesting while doing it.
Based on the testimony transcripts from the Earp trial in Tombstone, the movie TOMBSTONE presents the most accurate version of the OK corral shootout EXCEPT, at the very end, when TOMBSTONE goes "Hollywood" and has Clanton shooting from inside the building. At the actual 1881 shootout, Ike Clanton ran away and did not look back after Wyatt Earp shoved him aside saying, "Ike get to fighting or get away"!
I named my dog Wyatt. I got him shortly after a trip to Tombstone. He growled at a vet tech and she told him " just because you have the name doesn't mean you have to be a tough guy"!
Just once I would like to see a western that didn’t use smokeless gunpowder. Back then after the first volley you would be enveloped in a cloud of smoke.
Are you serious?!?! It's kind of hard to put together the most historic scene in the Film if nobody watching can see what the fuck is going on ?!?! Wow!!!!
No smokeless powder wasn't in use. They were using black powder, and the amount of smoke in this scene is accurate for black powder pistol cartridges. There isn't that much powder in a pistol cartridge, 30-40 grains by volume. Civil war muskets used 80-120 grains to put that in perspective.
“ All the guns used during the shoot out were black powder weapons firing fixed ammunition (as opposed to muzzle loaders), among the most modern of their time. The black powder would have made tremendous amounts of white smoke, hampering visibility during the fight and causing confusion in witness reports. ” www.historyandheadlines.com/history-october-26-1881-gunfight-at-the-o-k-corral-the-weapons/
Great film. Love it. Even though both films had historical inaccuracies, this film was more accurate. I call this film the historical film and Tombstone the fun film.
Not it wasn’t. All accounts have Doc firing the first shot with a shotgun. And Doc wasnt shot in the back. He got grazed by a bullet but nobody knows from where. I mean I love the movie. But Tombstone was more accurate on this 1.
@@blackjackmusic1107thats pretty cool, Josiah is my however many greatd grandfather to, Bessy Earp was the last to hold the name Earp in my blood line.
In its own way, this version was magnificent. People here are right, you can love both, but for different reasons. I thought Quaids Doc Holiday was only a hair shy of the masterful performance we got from Kilmer. Costner as Earp carried with him a dark, bitter cloud that given his history, is completely understandable and works in with the story. Tombstone got the glory though and no quibbles there. But this was excellent all around as well. DEEP in to the backstory before, during, and after.
Quad trumps Kilmer in the fact that you look at Quad and he appears to be sickly in body too! Kilmer did a good job but his sickness was read from his face and his cough, Quad looks sickly all the way around, he epitomizes illness in that era. Kilmer matched Quad in sickness only once and that was when he talked to Earp after killing Ringo! Val Kilmer gave us the power of Doc Holiday, while Quad gave us his physical weakness! However, they were both brilliant performances. I'm going to take Costner over Kurt by a hair and Kilmer over Quad for overall performance!
WHAT THEY GOT RIGHT: Billy Claiborne ran when the fighting started. Billy Clanton was shot in the abdomen. Ike Clanton went up to Wyatt telling him that he wasn't armed and ran away too. Wyatt Earp shot Frank McLaury in the stomach. Billy Clanton shot Virgil in the leg. Virgil Earp shot Billy Clanton in the chest, killing him. Doc Holliday shot Tom McLaury in the chest with the shotgun (although he should've been portrayed doing that earlier in the fight and not later). Frank McLaury grazed Doc in his pistol pocket. Morgan Earp shot Frank McLaury in the head, killing him (Doc also claimed to have done it). WHAT THEY GOT WRONG: It was Billy Clanton and Wyatt that fired first, not Morgan. It was Morgan who injured Clanton's hand, not Wyatt. It was most likely Billy Clanton and not Tom McLaury that shot Morgan across his back. VERDICT: Pretty accurate overall with only minor hiccups.
@@mysterymotor how could anybody know the correct order of a chaotic gunfight, oh mr genius ?..of exactly who shot who when and in correct order and where in the body ?
how could anybody know the correct order of a chaotic gunfight, oh mr genius ?..of exactly who shot who when and in correct order and where in the body ?
Anthony Campos Yeah, pulp fiction is considered to be one of the best movies of all time and probably would’ve made madsen an a list star while Wyatt Earp is only remembered for being tombstones rival.
Thank god, though, right? Travolta was great in Pulp Fiction. I just can't see Madsen dancing with Uma Thurman, wondering around confused in her house with his jacket over his arm, sitting on the toilet reading a paperback, arguing with Jules over brain detail.
My favorite line in this movie, spoken by Dennis Quaid (who lost a lot of weight to look sickly for this movie, unlike Val Kilmer's hollywood-handsome appearance) as Doc Holliday: "Dave Rudabaugh is an ignorant scoundrel, I disapprove of his very existence" followed immediately by "I considered ending it on several occasions but self-control got the better of me".
And he says " Besides I'm a sporting man" I thought this version of the Wyatt Earp and the gunfight at the ok corral was more realistic .In TS Doc walks away without been shot which was not true ,He took a bullet to the leg. TS was great action but it wasn't very accurate ,when the cowboys killed Morgan and tried to kill Virgil the Earp's are seen leaving when in fact the cowboys got the hell out of town while the Earp vendetta was formed. I don't believe the scene when the Earp's are leaving and they stop and tell curly Bill "I want you to know this is over" And Bill says "well bye" Then Ringo says "Do you smell that Bill? smells like someone died to me" There's no way that happened Ringo and Curly and the rest got out of town after they killed Morgan and tried to kill Virgil ,Wyatt formed the posse and went after the cowboys he changed for the worse when Morgan was murdered
Val Kilmer was more suave but he definitely looked sick and sweaty all the time. He was always coughing in a cloth and spitting up blood. He just wasn't loud and obnoxious like the Dennis Quaid version. Also he moved to Arizona for the dry climate to ease his symptoms.
I'm a bit late in getting around to it but I just finished reading Jeff Guin's "The Last Gunfight:.." He has Doc unloading in the first seconds. As I recall. I didn't thumb through to verify.
After seeing Tombstone, this is sub-standard. Powers Boothe as Curly Bill Brocius, Stephen Lang as Ike Clanton, and Michael Biehn as Johnny Ringo are major antagonists who make the salt and pepper of a great movie.
I can appreciate your view on this but after visiting Tombstone in 2017 I caught the OK Corral bug. Ive read several books about it and the court records from the ensuing trial. Ive watched every movie and or TV show about it. My conclusion is that this version of the gunfight is the most accurate in the way that it really went down.
@@EdWood1st Well in terms of mere depiction of events, the two scenes are identical. Both show the correct people getting shot and the correct people getting wounded, along with Ike Clanton's cowardice. But the Tombstone version has far better excited "pow," and more competent editing in general.
This was good because it did not sensationalize the gunfight, but rather showed to be a brutal and bloody event where people were injured and killed. I think that we need to handle violence in movies like so. Not glorify it or make it exciting, but show it for what it really is.
This would've been an all time singled out great if "Tombstone" didn't exist. "Tombstone" beat "Wyatt Earp" to the theaters and took the lead early. If you want an action packed, lively version, then "Tombstone" is for you. If you prefer depth, backstory, and a more dramatic approach, then "Wyatt Earp" is the one.
Somewhere in the movie Wyatt Earp there's a 100 minute western waiting, no begging, for a great editor to create. That movie might well be one of the greatest westerns ever made. Whoever has the rights could easily make that happen but never have. Shame.
Tombstone is the better, more entertaining film, but I still have a lot of respect for this one. This film has what I believe to be the most accurate depiction of that famous gunfight.
@@mattysee24 Tombstone was originally supposed to have Kevin Costner playing Wyatt Earp. However, Coster and the script director didn't agree about the direction the movie was going to. Costner wanted it to be about Wyatt Earp's life, so given their differences, Costner decided to make his own movie.
Dennis Quaid played the perfect Doc Holliday in this version, about as close to his history as it gets.from his graze in the back at the shooting till his problems with Kate...just fucking perfect.
Just from a film lover's perspective, despite the movie's flaws this scene couldn't have been better directed. Four men, determined to uphold the law, cloaked in dark clothes walking with a purpose down the dusty street as common citizens watch while the music swells is masterfully done.
@@cooperkeeling4263 oh so youve never seen it? Well youll rarely ever see a film with such an amazing cast Kurt Russel, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliot, Bill Paxton, Stephen Lang, powers Booth- heck they got Charlton Heston in a glorified cameo!
@@ezekielwhite8443 i cant believe when i made this comment that i didnt even think to mention it! Tombstone- the only Wyatt Earp film to have an actual earp in it
If you have never been to Tombstone you should make the trip, it's well worth it. One thing that stood out to me was how close they were to each other in that alley. Ill bet they were no more than 25 feet apart when the shooting started. It's amazing that more of them weren't killed. Camillus Flys photographic studio is right there too. You can also see the Bird Cage theatre and note all the holes in the walls and ceilings from guys shooting their guns in appreciation of a good performance.
Everything burned to the ground after the fight. The only thing left was the OK Corral sign. The Studio had two floors and the Harwood house is gone. The fight took place in a fifteen or eighteen wide area which included two horses which were in parallel to the side of the Harwood house. When Doc arrived, he actually pushed one of the cowboys in the stomach with his shotgun to move him away.
Wyatt Earp is a film, whereas Tombstone is an entertaining movie. The theme of Earp is what his father told him: some people just don't respect the rules people live by--don't give them a chance. That makes Earp a hard, grim personality--doomed, somewhat like Holliday, to exist on the periphery of civilization. Always failing to make a buck outside of law enforcement, but never quite succeeding. There's a kind of truth there about people who lived at the hard, semi-civilized frontier. Plus the Buffalo hunting scenes are worth the price of admission alone--how our country was before us.
"Wyatt Earp is a film" Tell it to this ridiculous thematic score and the low angle cut of their synchronized cadence with the most glorified walk in western "film" history.
Happy to see people's comments on that movie, when i was watching that movie i remembered that in my father's book collection, there was a book on Wyatt Earp, will surely now take time to read it,. An excellent Movie! at one scene where Wyatt was after his wife's death in a cell and a cockroach was on his neck, but he was immune to his surrounding as he was in torment, one of the best scene! his different phases, outstanding, Marvelous!
If you've never been to Tombstone, you owe it to yourself. They put on the show a couple times daily, but the story told by most experts in the town, is that Wyatt and his brothers were not shining examples of law and order, but more like a rival gang to the "Cowboys"...
For most part I prefer Tombstone, but that moment when they walk around the corner, with the camera pulling away and the music soaring- that there was inspired.
This is the most accurate depiction to date of the gunfight as it actually happened. As one historian described it, it was basically a misdemeanor arrest that went really wrong.
This particular depiction might have been the more accurate one of the OK Corral YET the Tombstone variation was more tense, edge of your seat adrenaline inducing & generally more exciting, from the steady buildup to the explosion of action to its final climax, IMHO😀👍 And although Dennis Quaid was truly fantastic & perhaps gave a more true to reality characterization of Doc Holliday in places, Val Kilmer nailed the role of that legendary, iconic & immortal Western gunman seamlessly, amazingly, hilariously, indelibly & just as compellingly as Mr. Quaid, if not more so! Though, after boiling it all down, it's all subjective, open to many logical & valid interpretations, & basically this by-product of that "to each his/her own" type of agreement, sense of reconciliation, compromise & understanding...any final comparison & conclusions drawn between both cinematic Doc Holliday portrayals, in the early 90's, that were reached on this individual basis by any number of parties. For as I wrote, it's all subjective!
I loved both but I found this version was a little less....Hollywood I guess? than Tombstone was. I also thought Quaid's version of Doc was also brilliant !!
Dennis Quaid is missing the magnetic and violent glee that Val Kilmer has. Nothing against Quaid because he’s a terrific actor and his son is in my favorite TV show right now.
@@Calandr28 Um, Quaid by all accounts portrayed Doc as he really was. Kilmer portrayed a very romanticized version of Doc that was just as good but not realistic much at all.
"Tombstone" was more of a theatrically interpreted rendering of that fateful day. "Wyatt Earp" stuck more with what happened from eyewitness accounts historically. Both were fantastic films with works by exceptional actors...
Most accurate of all the movie depictions of this confrontation but the truth is slightly more complicated than depicted - have a read of Jeff Guinn's The Last Gunfight.
I have a lot of love for that movie! I own four different films about Wyatt Earp, and "Gunfight at the OK Corral" and "Wyatt Earp" are my favorites. (I do still enjoy "Tombstone" and "My Darling Clementine", though; I'll take the Wyatt Earp/Doc Holliday friendship any way I can get it!)
If you look at the fight from a tactical perspective, I don't know if Earp and his band were either strategically completely unprepared, or if they actually went there without the intent to kill anyone, because three of the four of them were shot (in a time where a bullet wound anywhere could mean death) and because they didn't take cover immediately upon arrival, but instead chose to stand right in front of them. Makes you wonder
Just finished a book that has some details. 1) taking cover was not a thing for guys in that time and place. Apparently one of Wyatt's friends saw a movie that portrayed the Earps as taking cover and the guy swore off movies forever he was so pissed. 2) The Earps and Holliday were spoiling for a fight for days. Really challenging the Clantons and McLaurys, just like what Morgan says here "if you want a fight you can have it". But they also kept telling people they were just going to disarm those cowboys. It's hard to know which motive is the real one. 3) according to the book, the Earps did actually stop and put their guns in less visible/accessible places after Beehan told them the cowboys were already disarmed. Kinda points to them actually wanting to de-escalate. But they also could have been just covering their asses. If the Cowboys actually weren't armed then the Earps can't shoot and get away with it.
Things were different then, just consider the massed volleys from the Civil War a few decades earlier. Applying today to then, cover them with rifles at 50 m, move forward with ballistic shields or at least guns out and yes, use your corners. A lot of what we take for granted today wasn't thought out then.
@@pluginleah Your detail reminds me of the film Appaloosa. The character played by Viggo Mortenson stands alone in the street and calls out. He just turns sideways to make himself a narrower target but that's it in the way of protecting himself. He's more intent on being able to shoot straight.
Wyatt Earp is a much better film because of the character study , and told its story from the beginnings, tombstone is missing so much. In tombstone, you don't see any background of Wyatt. Kevin's film is an educational, tombstone doesn't tell us more then we already know.
Hahahaha. Tombstone is miles better than this flop. Your point about story may be correct however the acting, they cinematic footage and characters in this flop was terribke compared to tombestone
@Doc Holiday tombstone, no background information, Earp gives us a complex character, less big names which makes this film more realistic. Better storytelling.
This gunfight in Wyatt Earp is more factual and closer to the real actual fight. The Tombstone gunfight was made more dramatic, a bit of hyperbole was added , no wonder it was more popular.
This is why tombstone is 5x better. This movie didn't even try to make entertaining sense. They just changed the history. Tombstone had holiday moving across the street the whole time as the only witness (big nose Kate- holiday's girlfriend) said he did. He switched to his pistol after emptying both barrels at the boys and their horses
Troy Sorensen only thing this movie has right is that Wyatt’s brothers and holiday get shot but in tombstone it’s just the earps that get hit but tombstone is more accurate and entertaining
@@Kj-jc8oj in tombstone holiday gets winged but it doesn't play a large role for the rest of the film. I totally agree though. Tombstone is undeniably kick ass
I consider these guys my heroes of the old west,I came from Brazil 64 years ago and fell in love with the old west and it’s history,this movie about the ok corral is the most awesome movie
Read that Kevin Costner originally intended this movie to be a 6 episodes tv series but he was much too ahead of his time & the studios rejected it. It would have been an amazing series had it been done today. And they would have gotten funding for it.
SymphonyBrahms Kevin Costner’s career is a comedy... you are out of your mind. I don’t know how people thought that guy was an A+ caliber actor... he’s the same in every movie. Even Untouchables is overrated.
Little known fact was Costner was approached to play Earp in Tombstone but felt the character didn't have enough screen time so declined and decided to make Wyatt Earp the role went to Kurt Russell and many feel Tombstone was the better picture. Costner's ego always gets the better of him.
The movie is "accurate" only in the sense that it conforms to Stuart Lake's fanciful 1931 biography, "Wyatt Earp, Frontier Marshal." Lake's book was entirely based on the self-serving reminiscences of Earp, who benefitted from living longer than most of the people who could have contradicted him about the facts of his rather unsavory life. Just about the only old-timer still around when Earp was spinning his fables was Billy Breakenridge, who's book "Helldorado" provides quite a different perspective on the Earp brothers, Holliday, and the "gunfight at the OK Corral." More recently, Jeff Guinn did a fine job debunking the Wyatt Earp myth in his book "The Last Gunfight."
@@WildwoodClaire1 It's accurate in that it closely reflects Paula Mitchell Marks' "And Die in the West", which considers the gunfight from multiple viewpoints.
I'm absolutely fascinated by the uncanny similarities to the same scene in, "Tombstone"..... despite a completely different cast, crew, writer and director.
@@headshotsongs9465 Yep. It lasted only thirty seconds, and there were big inaccuracies in both portrayals. However, this one is actually more accurate than Tombstone.
Dennis Quaid and val kilmer are likely my two favorite actors. No bigger contrast to them than these films. My childhood hero will forever be Lee Majors.
Tombstone was the better movie, but this one is a little more historically accurate. The OK corral gunfight is a little closer to how it actually happened.
Hollywood has done many recreations of this iconic and legendary moment in American history. A few television productions have had a crack at it as well. I can even recall Capt Kirk, Spock and co doing a version of it in one of their Star Trek episodes. A great line-up of stars here portraying some of the most notorious names known from the American old west. As was the case in Tombstone, which I think in terms of drama had the edge over this one.
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is final." - Wyatt Earp
If you're going into a gun fight, bring along Doc Holliday.
HeadShotSongs he was raised right here in my home town of Valdosta his house was at the corner of what is now troupe st and Savannah ave, I also visit his mothers grave she’s buried here at sunset hill cemetery.
I cannot imagine a more fearsome opponent in a gunfight than a recklessly brave gunslinger protecting his friends, knowing he will not see old age, regardless of the outcome.
@@bobbyricigliano2799 - Not to mention who's sobriety is often in question, and if not, having to worry if he's gonna shoot them, or you by accident because of the liquor.
Honestly doc's aim wasn't that good although he was indeed quick on the draw. In fact the shootout was the only confirmed kill he ever made which is probably why it's documented that he wept after the shootout and said "this is bad".
@@bobbyricigliano2799 Doc Holliday was a man with balls and nothing to lose.
The fact that throughout all of his escapades Wyatt was never harmed by gunfire is crazy. Even Doc was grazed at OK Corral. Wyatt is really a real world example of plot armor.
Some men have a thing about them, I fought in Iraq. It's real, guy will just be unharmed and in the right place and position when something happens. Often people will find/lose faith from being unscathed while watching their friends and enemies get destroyed. Life is weird.
Doc was carrying acne because had been shot in the leg in another gun fight.
That's why we still talk about him. Mathematically bound to happen sometimes.
@@ShockTroop81 theres a show on netflix called oats studios. basically its a bunch of shorts but theres a short about this soldier in vietnam that basically has a "force" around him. bombs get blocked by trees hes next to, bullets seem to dodge him, etc. and they use some device to amplify his "power" but it just stuck with me because its so true that sometimes people just have this power. you see someone inches away from getting hit by a car on a CCTV camera. somehow the car just dodges them. its such a bizarre concept. real life main character stuff.
George Washington was also immune to bullets. He had two horses shot out from under him, and one battle alone acquired 4 bullet holes in his coat. Still never got a scratch.
Both this movie and Tombstone were excellent movies.....BUT......Tombstone had Val Kilmer!🔥
Tombstones doc Holliday was way better lol.
Both were good but Kilmer was great. Tombstone was definitely better
I like Dennis quiad more
quad was way better
IMHO...Val played the role of Doc extremely well!!
Many years later a young reporter asked Wyatt Earp why when they had town meetings they were always held in a bar. Wyatt replied "At that time there weren't a lot of YMCA's in Tombstone"
I was born in 1957. We relocated to Tucson, Arizona in 1959. I visited Tombstone many times over the years. Much of the original town preserved as it was, yet modernized with electricity, running water etc. A civilzed, quiet place now. Tourist oriented. Hard to believe it was once so dangerous.
Now you have Sierra Vista…😂
@@walterallen3234 Walter my question is the Original Corral still there where The Showdown actually happened.
@@DarthRevan-rp5sn there is an OK Corral there, or the was the last time i visited. I assume it's on the actual property, not certain. Is it the actual corral from back then? I don't know.
@@walterallen3234 Tombstone probally has changed dramaticlly since the Showdown alot has changed since i bet.
This movie was compared against "Tombstone" endlessly and it should not have been. I love both films but they are apples and oranges. Tombstone was a classic western film with great acting. The perfect Saturday at the theater with a bucket of popcorn type film.
Wyatt Earp (the film) went deeper into the backstory, both before and after the O.K. Corral. It is a deep and epic film. I would compare it more to Dances With Wolves as a film that went wide and far with a rich story and many layers of character development. The young and naive Wyatt Earp and his transition to the hardened lawman was a great plot. And while I loved Val Kilmer's version, Dennis Quaid probably risked his life to become such an emaciated and feeble (but deadly) Doc Holliday. A student of western films should be able to love both of these films without constantly comparing them.
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Very well said. Agree 100%!
I totally agree with u on that. Tombstone is my favorite western ever made. But I just got Wyatt Earp on dvd. And while I still like tombstone better. I still think it’s a good western, and a good film. To me I believe that’s why Wyatt Earp the film got crapped on. Was because it was compared to tombstone. So I enjoy both these films.
Bobby Ricigliano agreed. They are great films. Though I got a bias for tombstone mostly because I’m a huge Kurt Russel fan and I believe his portrayal is closer to what Wyatt may have been like only because of the distant connection of Kurt Russel and John Wayne. Kurt Russel played Earp similar to how he felt John Wayne would have tried to play him because John Wayne literally met and looked up to Wyatt Earp. John Wayne often said he portrayed himself as best as he could to Wyatt when he played western roles. Kurt Russel, who met John Wayne at a young age looked up to John Wayne and even worked with him and heard these stories as well. So allegedly Kurt Russels portrayal is the most likely vision of Wyatt Earp. Allegedly anyways. At the end of the day I’m just a fan of the guy because he’s from the old school Hollywood where a man acted like a man and did his stunts.
I like Wyatt Earp as well because it was more grounded and showed Wyatt as less of a mythic hero and more of a deeply flawed man who just did what he had to do to survive.
fruit can be compared, there both great
This has got to be the most dramatic "walking down the street" music I've ever heard.
Ha! That cracked me up!
Note to self: replay this music in my head when walking to the shops.
Tombstone did it better
Yeah it is lol.
@@r.t.5425 Yeah it did.
Legend has it Wyatt Earp was never even wounded or hit by a stray bullet, which is remarkable in itself. Still he lived to be 80 something.
Ike Clanton may have saved Wyatt's life accidentally. He stood in front of him yelling he was unarmed during a 30 second gun fight. I love ironic history.
Too much is made of this, it was not standing toe to toe. BS. But believe a movie if you want to.
@@tombryan1 Court testimony and the lot was only about sixteen feet across. Doc had pushed one of the cowboys back with the barrel of the shotgun. Movies are escapism. Not documentaries.
I ate my first bologna sandwich today.
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Man, Dennis Quaid deserved an Oscar. The smile he flashes-to Morgan, not Wyatt- and the tap on the shotgun? Brilliant
His version is my favorite.
His version is my favorite.
I like Dennis Quaid as Doc better than Val Kilmer
but Tombstone is my favorite movie overall.
That almost imperceptible foot stumble when he starts off down the steps. Anyone who's been crippled up or really sick knows exactly that's what happens. Nice detail.
@@bob456fk6 I think Val Kilmer looked more potent and intimidating.
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An absolutely amazing scene. One of the greatest scenes in movie history. The most famous gunfight in history.
Tombstone is better
@@dumbidiot3650 I love Tombstone too and I tend to agree with you actually. Great movies.
@@markpasse9691 unfortunately I actually changed my mind based on accuracy of the ok corral. Tombstone is a terrific villainesque Hollywood movie but Wyatt Earp was more accurate regarding doc holidays wound
@@markpasse9691 Yeah it was much more accurate the gunfight at the corral the Kevin Costner film, Tombstone was great but not accurate ,In TS Doc isn't hit when in reality he was shot in the leg. Ike done a runner in the Wyatt Earp film In TS he shouts I ain't armed then runs into fly's and grabs a gun and starts shooting. And Val Kilmer's Doc looked too healthy for someone dying from TB
The most famous gunfight in history ha
so many people prefer the tombstone version over this version. but what you have to understand is this is much more realistic. very few shots were fired by each individual (as opposed to docs never empty six shooters in tombstone). ike clanton also ran from the scene almost immediatly following his plea with wyatt, unlike in tombstone where he steals a pistol and shoots at the earps from behind. Yes, the tombstone version is more intense and entertaining, but its hollywood. the slow, boring vibe of wyatt earp is much closer to how those gunfights would have played out.
I agree. This gunfight feels more realistic, and in my opinion, that actually makes it better. I also like Dennis Quaid's version of Doc Holliday over Val Kilmer's. I think that this gunfight actually is more entertaining due to it's realism. The one in Tombstone is low-key played for laughs. I can't take it seriously, but then I don't like anything about Tombstone.
@@drlee2 did you fall on your head? Tombstone is a GREAT film!
And yet with those exceptions you mentioned, both films execute the scene almost the exact same way.
Have to agree with Dennis Quaid's interpretation of Doc Holliday being more accurate than Val Kilmer's. Holliday was not a pleasant man... and though I prefer Tombstone as a movie, I'll have to say Wyatt Earp has the characters down just a bit more authentically.
They prefer it, for one reason and one reason only.
VAL KILMER!!
Well it's a historic fact that Ike ran up to Wyatt and said" get to fighting or get out of the way" they left that out . Like the Tombstone version better.
You mean Wyatt said that to Ike.
@@marcoslaureano5562 exactly
Tombstone was just a better movie altogether.. one of the best movies ever made. Hard to compete with that
I love both movies.
IMO Wyatt Earp was a more accurate portrayal of Earp's life and probably more the kind of man Earp was. Tombstone was great, but it always came across to me as more a "hollywood" type film.
Well, Tombstone is the unintelligent persons version, where revolvers are whirled around finger and the ammo never rans out and shit.
Tombstone will always be my favorite Wyatt Earp movie. As far as historically accurate Wyatt Earp movies go, this one was a tad closer, especially with the scene. All the correct people got killed or wounded as it was historically reported
Except that in the real gunfight the only one that had a gun was Billy Clanton the others were unarmed and Billy wounded one of the Eraps and doc holiday arrest warrants were issued for the watt Earp and docholiday for murder one of the Earps was killed later and another was wounded watt Earp went to calif and doc went to Colorado because they had arrest warrants for their arrest and also because they were shooting the Earp in the back at the o k corral only one man was armed one of them screamed I ain't got no guns I'm unarmed and Doc holiday shot him anyway Hollywood has a way of twisting things around to make it more exciting
@@crissoto3759 I thought most witnesses agreed that Frank McLaury had a weapon and fired it. I think a Colt revolver was found near his body and had 2 rounds left in it. I thought Tom McLaury was likely unarmed though the Earps thought he was armed and thought he fired once but no guns, gun belt or ammo was on his body.
@@crissoto3759 There were two trials, Wyatt and Holliday were tried and acquitted in both. Virgil Earp was acquitted, but was admonished by the judge for deputizing his brothers and Holliday considering the recent problems between the two factions.
Billy Clanton and the McLaury's were armed. Tom McLaury was shot by Holliday as he was reaching over his horse for his Winchester rifle! Frank McLaury shot Morgan Earp and Billy Clanton shot Virgil Earp and Holliday. Ike Clanton was the only cowboy who raised his hands when ordered to give up their guns, and the the only one not shot at! Who shot at who depends on the witness, but there is no doubt that Billy Clanton and Frank McLaury were wearing their pistols and Tom McLaury was within reach of a rifle, and that Only Wyatt Earp and Ike Clanton were not wounded.
@@crissoto3759 Not true. Two left, Ike Clanton was unarmed and escaped. Frank and Billy both were armed. Tom was reaching for a Winchester on Billy's horse when he was shot by Doc. The Cowboys were threatening the Earps all that morning and they were waiting outside Doc's rooming house owned by Fly. Doc hit Tom under the arm as he reached.
@@shooterqqqq correct. If you're interested. The definitive book on the Ok Corral gunfight is titled "And Die in the West". A great read and researched spectacularly. Consensus and evidence strongly suggest that Doc actually started the firing first.
Even though I prefer Tombstone this was a good movie too with a solid cast as well.
Tombstone is too dramatic and unrealistic. Goes better with a tub of popcorn.
@@urbanturbine and most importantly it was entertaining
Costner picked actors that resemble the real Earps.
@@urbanturbine tombstone accurate this some bullshit
@@tevinsmith5150yeah 100%
I never watched this film until I recently rewatched Tombstone and learned of the historical inaccuracies in the film. I really appreciate this films accurate representation of the history and it's ability to remain interesting while doing it.
... its ability ... (There is no apostrophe in the possessive pronoun - the inaccuracy in your comment!)
this movie looks like shit compared to tombstone though.
It's a movie NOT a documentary.
Based on the testimony transcripts from the Earp trial in Tombstone, the movie TOMBSTONE presents the most accurate version of the OK corral shootout EXCEPT, at the very end, when TOMBSTONE goes "Hollywood" and has Clanton shooting from inside the building. At the actual 1881 shootout, Ike Clanton ran away and did not look back after Wyatt Earp shoved him aside saying, "Ike get to fighting or get away"!
Doc brings a shotgun to a gunfight. He is legend.
Click click --he pulls back the double hammers and the fight is on.
Double barrel 10 gauge. Open for business!
@@headshotsongs9465 Was never confirmed to be a 10 gauge
@@josh05683 he used the Meteor 10 gauge double barrel shotgun...confirmed
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Click click Doc started the fight when he pulled back the two hammers.
I’m glad most of the comments are people loving this film AND loving Tombstone.
Both are iconic in their own rights.
I named my dog Wyatt. I got him shortly after a trip to Tombstone. He growled at a vet tech and she told him " just because you have the name doesn't mean you have to be a tough guy"!
I named my cat, Josephine.
Just once I would like to see a western that didn’t use smokeless gunpowder. Back then after the first volley you would be enveloped in a cloud of smoke.
Are you serious?!?! It's kind of hard to put together the most historic scene in the Film if nobody watching can see what the fuck is going on ?!?! Wow!!!!
No smokeless powder wasn't in use. They were using black powder, and the amount of smoke in this scene is accurate for black powder pistol cartridges. There isn't that much powder in a pistol cartridge, 30-40 grains by volume. Civil war muskets used 80-120 grains to put that in perspective.
“ All the guns used during the shoot out were black powder weapons firing fixed ammunition (as opposed to muzzle loaders), among the most modern of their time. The black powder would have made tremendous amounts of white smoke, hampering visibility during the fight and causing confusion in witness reports. ”
www.historyandheadlines.com/history-october-26-1881-gunfight-at-the-o-k-corral-the-weapons/
That was BP, but they had arvo rigs..
That would actually explain some of the number of shots fires at like 15 feet
Great film. Love it. Even though both films had historical inaccuracies, this film was more accurate. I call this film the historical film and Tombstone the fun film.
The greatest Wyatt Earp movie ever and the most accurate depiction of the gunfight at the OK Coral imho.
Not it wasn’t. All accounts have Doc firing the first shot with a shotgun. And Doc wasnt shot in the back. He got grazed by a bullet but nobody knows from where. I mean I love the movie. But Tombstone was more accurate on this 1.
Actually both movies are wrong about the OK Corral being the site of this gunfight. It actually took place six doors down in a vacant lot.
I'm an Earp on my moms side...My Great Great grandpa was Wyatts' uncle...I'm very proud of my Family...Great Movie too btw
Who was your great great grandpa?
@@connerkerrison2579 Pretty sure (but don't hold me to it) It's Josiah Earp...I would have to talk to the mum to be sure
@@blackjackmusic1107 that’s awesome. Those boys were badass
@@blackjackmusic1107thats pretty cool, Josiah is my however many greatd grandfather to, Bessy Earp was the last to hold the name Earp in my blood line.
In its own way, this version was magnificent.
People here are right, you can love both, but for different reasons. I thought Quaids Doc Holiday was only a hair shy of the masterful performance we got from Kilmer. Costner as Earp carried with him a dark, bitter cloud that given his history, is completely understandable and works in with the story.
Tombstone got the glory though and no quibbles there. But this was excellent all around as well. DEEP in to the backstory before, during, and after.
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Very well said Shkotay.
"Dark bitter cloud" well said and appropriate
Quad trumps Kilmer in the fact that you look at Quad and he appears to be sickly in body too! Kilmer did a good job but his sickness was read from his face and his cough, Quad looks sickly all the way around, he epitomizes illness in that era. Kilmer matched Quad in sickness only once and that was when he talked to Earp after killing Ringo! Val Kilmer gave us the power of Doc Holiday, while Quad gave us his physical weakness! However, they were both brilliant performances. I'm going to take Costner over Kurt by a hair and Kilmer over Quad for overall performance!
I think Quaid looked and walked more Doc than Kilmer did, but Kilmer owned his portrayal and made it iconic.
WHAT THEY GOT RIGHT:
Billy Claiborne ran when the fighting started.
Billy Clanton was shot in the abdomen.
Ike Clanton went up to Wyatt telling him that he wasn't armed and ran away too.
Wyatt Earp shot Frank McLaury in the stomach.
Billy Clanton shot Virgil in the leg.
Virgil Earp shot Billy Clanton in the chest, killing him.
Doc Holliday shot Tom McLaury in the chest with the shotgun (although he should've been portrayed doing that earlier in the fight and not later).
Frank McLaury grazed Doc in his pistol pocket.
Morgan Earp shot Frank McLaury in the head, killing him (Doc also claimed to have done it).
WHAT THEY GOT WRONG:
It was Billy Clanton and Wyatt that fired first, not Morgan.
It was Morgan who injured Clanton's hand, not Wyatt.
It was most likely Billy Clanton and not Tom McLaury that shot Morgan across his back.
VERDICT: Pretty accurate overall with only minor hiccups.
you were there were ya b'y?
The guns were a little off too. In real life Wyatt Earp used a Smith and Wesson Schofield, and Virgil only used one SAA.
@@Mister_Mag00 Some people read history books and some people enjoy making stupid comments.
@@mysterymotor how could anybody know the correct order of a chaotic gunfight, oh mr genius ?..of exactly who shot who when and in correct order and where in the body ?
how could anybody know the correct order of a chaotic gunfight, oh mr genius ?..of exactly who shot who when and in correct order and where in the body ?
I heard that Michael Madsen passed on Pulp Fiction to do this movie and later regretted it.
Anthony Campos Yeah, pulp fiction is considered to be one of the best movies of all time and probably would’ve made madsen an a list star while Wyatt Earp is only remembered for being tombstones rival.
At least in the movie he is related to the character best it will get ig lol
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@Scruffy Sandra What? Django Unchained is an amazing movie.
Thank god, though, right? Travolta was great in Pulp Fiction. I just can't see Madsen dancing with Uma Thurman, wondering around confused in her house with his jacket over his arm, sitting on the toilet reading a paperback, arguing with Jules over brain detail.
My favorite line in this movie, spoken by Dennis Quaid (who lost a lot of weight to look sickly for this movie, unlike Val Kilmer's hollywood-handsome appearance) as Doc Holliday: "Dave Rudabaugh is an ignorant scoundrel, I disapprove of his very existence" followed immediately by "I considered ending it on several occasions but self-control got the better of me".
And he says " Besides I'm a sporting man" I thought this version of the Wyatt Earp and the gunfight at the ok corral was more realistic .In TS Doc walks away without been shot which was not true ,He took a bullet to the leg. TS was great action but it wasn't very accurate ,when the cowboys killed Morgan and tried to kill Virgil the Earp's are seen leaving when in fact the cowboys got the hell out of town while the Earp vendetta was formed. I don't believe the scene when the Earp's are leaving and they stop and tell curly Bill "I want you to know this is over" And Bill says "well bye" Then Ringo says "Do you smell that Bill? smells like someone died to me" There's no way that happened Ringo and Curly and the rest got out of town after they killed Morgan and tried to kill Virgil ,Wyatt formed the posse and went after the cowboys he changed for the worse when Morgan was murdered
Bro Val looked green and pasty as fuck wtf are you smoking
Both movies had great “Doc Holiday’s”
Val Kilmer was more suave but he definitely looked sick and sweaty all the time. He was always coughing in a cloth and spitting up blood. He just wasn't loud and obnoxious like the Dennis Quaid version. Also he moved to Arizona for the dry climate to ease his symptoms.
""Mama always told me never put off til tomorrow people you can kill today." Classic line.
Probably the most accurate version of the gunfight on film.
No, it still has a lot of inaccuracies. The wiki article is a very interesting read.
I'm a bit late in getting around to it but I just finished reading Jeff Guin's "The Last Gunfight:.." He has Doc unloading in the first seconds. As I recall. I didn't thumb through to verify.
Tombstone is more accurate
@@lewish_1476no.
@@rinzler9171 well its my opinion. If you dont think it is then its yours. Im not even going to argue with you
After seeing Tombstone, this is sub-standard. Powers Boothe as Curly Bill Brocius, Stephen Lang as Ike Clanton, and Michael Biehn as Johnny Ringo are major antagonists who make the salt and pepper of a great movie.
I can appreciate your view on this but after visiting Tombstone in 2017 I caught the OK Corral bug. Ive read several books about it and the court records from the ensuing trial. Ive watched every movie and or TV show about it. My conclusion is that this version of the gunfight is the most accurate in the way that it really went down.
@@EdWood1st Well in terms of mere depiction of events, the two scenes are identical. Both show the correct people getting shot and the correct people getting wounded, along with Ike Clanton's cowardice. But the Tombstone version has far better excited "pow," and more competent editing in general.
Bill Paxton played the best morg
This is Johnny Cage Morg
Linden Ashby portrayed a more historically accurate Morgan in regards to how much of a hothead he was by all accounts.
This movie was far more historically accurate than the way more popular Tombstone movie that was released around the sometime.
Is this the directors cut? Kurt Russell's performance seems a lot more wooden in this version.
Lol
Yes this is the better Wyatt.
What I really liked about this version was the fact that it covered the Dodge City days as well as the Tombstone days.
The best Wyatt Earp movie ever made !
Lord...thank god for Tombstone
Yea this was shit in comparison
@@johng9095 ...but probably more realistic according to contemporary accounts.
This was good because it did not sensationalize the gunfight, but rather showed to be a brutal and bloody event where people were injured and killed.
I think that we need to handle violence in movies like so. Not glorify it or make it exciting, but show it for what it really is.
Says the cowboy..stfu
@@tevinsmith5150 if you think being a cowboy is aaaaalllllllllllllllllll about the guns and gun fighting, you are sorely, deeply mistaken.
@@o3941 bro stfu u act like u was really there
Then they also need to cut out the big dramatic hero music when they are walking down the street.
This would've been an all time singled out great if "Tombstone" didn't exist. "Tombstone" beat "Wyatt Earp" to the theaters and took the lead early.
If you want an action packed, lively version, then "Tombstone" is for you.
If you prefer depth, backstory, and a more dramatic approach, then "Wyatt Earp" is the one.
Amazing that what qualified as legendary lawman back then was being 10 feet away and missing a dozen shots.
You ever been shot at? Try it sometime, it does wonders for your aim.
Somewhere in the movie Wyatt Earp there's a 100 minute western waiting, no begging, for a great editor to create. That movie might well be one of the greatest westerns ever made. Whoever has the rights could easily make that happen but never have. Shame.
It’s always good to have someone from the medical profession present during the proceedings.
He was a dentist, though
@@stevepauley2437 Isn't dentistry a medical profession?
@@dudekfox7685 so is a podiatrist, but how good is either one, when it comes to gun fighting wounds?
@@stevepauley2437 Fair comment and he may only be of some use if somebody loses their teeth.
Both versions are excellent
Tombstone is the better, more entertaining film, but I still have a lot of respect for this one. This film has what I believe to be the most accurate depiction of that famous gunfight.
Which one was first?
Matty C Tombstone
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Tombstone was originally supposed to have Kevin Costner playing Wyatt Earp. However, Coster and the script director didn't agree about the direction the movie was going to. Costner wanted it to be about Wyatt Earp's life, so given their differences, Costner decided to make his own movie.
Dennis Quaid played the perfect Doc Holliday in this version, about as close to his history as it gets.from his graze in the back at the shooting till his problems with Kate...just fucking perfect.
Much better than the one-liner spitting, live-action cartoon that was Kilmer
I'm so glad there was a cameraman there that day.
Just from a film lover's perspective, despite the movie's flaws this scene couldn't have been better directed. Four men, determined to uphold the law, cloaked in dark clothes walking with a purpose down the dusty street as common citizens watch while the music swells is masterfully done.
For an example of this scene being better directed, watch Tombstone
@@ConnorNotyerbidness I'll have to give that a look, cheers mate!
@@cooperkeeling4263 oh so youve never seen it?
Well youll rarely ever see a film with such an amazing cast
Kurt Russel, Val Kilmer, Sam Elliot, Bill Paxton, Stephen Lang, powers Booth- heck they got Charlton Heston in a glorified cameo!
@@ConnorNotyerbidness as well as Wyatt Earp iii, not many people know he was in that
@@ezekielwhite8443 i cant believe when i made this comment that i didnt even think to mention it!
Tombstone- the only Wyatt Earp film to have an actual earp in it
I love Kevin Costner and Dennis quaid in this movie, it was brill and anniv of gunfight coming up so loads of films 👍👍👍
This is best of the 2 versions of Wyatt Earp
If you have never been to Tombstone you should make the trip, it's well worth it. One thing that stood out to me was how close they were to each other in that alley. Ill bet they were no more than 25 feet apart when the shooting started. It's amazing that more of them weren't killed. Camillus Flys photographic studio is right there too. You can also see the Bird Cage theatre and note all the holes in the walls and ceilings from guys shooting their guns in appreciation of a good performance.
Everything burned to the ground after the fight. The only thing left was the OK Corral sign. The Studio had two floors and the Harwood house is gone. The fight took place in a fifteen or eighteen wide area which included two horses which were in parallel to the side of the Harwood house. When Doc arrived, he actually pushed one of the cowboys in the stomach with his shotgun to move him away.
Actually, they were probably less than 10 feet apart when it all started.
was there in 1984 they still had the paper mache looking dummies standing in the alley
Wikipedia says they stood 6ft (or 2 metres) away from each other. Also says that there was hell of a smoke from their guns.
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Wyatt Earp is a film, whereas Tombstone is an entertaining movie. The theme of Earp is what his father told him: some people just don't respect the rules people live by--don't give them a chance. That makes Earp a hard, grim personality--doomed, somewhat like Holliday, to exist on the periphery of civilization. Always failing to make a buck outside of law enforcement, but never quite succeeding. There's a kind of truth there about people who lived at the hard, semi-civilized frontier. Plus the Buffalo hunting scenes are worth the price of admission alone--how our country was before us.
"Wyatt Earp is a film"
Tell it to this ridiculous thematic score and the low angle cut of their synchronized cadence with the most glorified walk in western "film" history.
@@ejim941099Thank you! Plus, the action directing in this scene is dizzying…
I consider this the best Wyatt Earp film. Tombstone was fun but this movie was an experience
Happy to see people's comments on that movie, when i was watching that movie i remembered that in my father's book collection, there was a book on Wyatt Earp, will surely now take time to read it,. An excellent Movie! at one scene where Wyatt was after his wife's death in a cell and a cockroach was on his neck, but he was immune to his surrounding as he was in torment, one of the best scene! his different phases, outstanding, Marvelous!
Read that book...
This is one of my favourite movies of all time. Very well done.
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If you've never been to Tombstone, you owe it to yourself. They put on the show a couple times daily, but the story told by most experts in the town, is that Wyatt and his brothers were not shining examples of law and order, but more like a rival gang to the "Cowboys"...
There is a reason why Wyatt and his brothers were known as "The Fighting Pimps".
Please bring back great movies like this again 🙏
Wyatt Earp is more historically accurate than Tombstone, but I prefer Finding Dory
I always felt like Toy Story was the more plausible story compared to the others
For most part I prefer Tombstone, but that moment when they walk around the corner, with the camera pulling away and the music soaring- that there was inspired.
Never seen tombstone but I did love this movie a lot
Watch Tombstone
Both are great films. This one is more dramatic and deep. Tombstone is more fun and entertaining.
This is the most accurate depiction to date of the gunfight as it actually happened. As one historian described it, it was basically a misdemeanor arrest that went really wrong.
Wow, never knew that Johnny Cage was in this movie (Linden Ashby). I have only known him for his role in Mortal Kombat.
Come on man, you never watched Melrose Place!?
This particular depiction might have been the more accurate one of the OK Corral YET the Tombstone variation was more tense, edge of your seat adrenaline inducing & generally more exciting, from the steady buildup to the explosion of action to its final climax, IMHO😀👍 And although Dennis Quaid was truly fantastic & perhaps gave a more true to reality characterization of Doc Holliday in places, Val Kilmer nailed the role of that legendary, iconic & immortal Western gunman seamlessly, amazingly, hilariously, indelibly & just as compellingly as Mr. Quaid, if not more so! Though, after boiling it all down, it's all subjective, open to many logical & valid interpretations, & basically this by-product of that "to each his/her own" type of agreement, sense of reconciliation, compromise & understanding...any final comparison & conclusions drawn between both cinematic Doc Holliday portrayals, in the early 90's, that were reached on this individual basis by any number of parties. For as I wrote, it's all subjective!
I loved both but I found this version was a little less....Hollywood I guess? than Tombstone was. I also thought Quaid's version of Doc was also brilliant !!
Dennis Quaid is missing the magnetic and violent glee that Val Kilmer has. Nothing against Quaid because he’s a terrific actor and his son is in my favorite TV show right now.
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Thats was done on purpose. He was going for realism. What he felt Doc Holliday was really like.
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Well he was the only one that would think that. 🤣🤣🤣
@@Calandr28 i don't know what you're talking about
@@Calandr28 Um, Quaid by all accounts portrayed Doc as he really was. Kilmer portrayed a very romanticized version of Doc that was just as good but not realistic much at all.
The best.. Im actually watching this right now...
"Tombstone" was more of a theatrically interpreted rendering of that fateful day. "Wyatt Earp" stuck more with what happened from eyewitness accounts historically. Both were fantastic films with works by exceptional actors...
wyatt earp had real life plot armor
Most accurate of all the movie depictions of this confrontation but the truth is slightly more complicated than depicted - have a read of Jeff Guinn's The Last Gunfight.
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Does anyone like the Butt Lancaster/Kirk Douglas version of Gunfight at the OK Corral?
Yes, very much. Kirk Douglas was the most muscular Doc ever.
I have a lot of love for that movie! I own four different films about Wyatt Earp, and "Gunfight at the OK Corral" and "Wyatt Earp" are my favorites. (I do still enjoy "Tombstone" and "My Darling Clementine", though; I'll take the Wyatt Earp/Doc Holliday friendship any way I can get it!)
It was late 50's Hollywood. Pretty good, but short on historical accuracy.
No offense to the movie or cast but the 1950's version had zero connection to reality.
@@margaretpost1231 Just curious, what did you think about "Hour of the Gun" with James Garner?
If you look at the fight from a tactical perspective, I don't know if Earp and his band were either strategically completely unprepared, or if they actually went there without the intent to kill anyone, because three of the four of them were shot (in a time where a bullet wound anywhere could mean death) and because they didn't take cover immediately upon arrival, but instead chose to stand right in front of them. Makes you wonder
It wasnt that borderline about injuries
Just finished a book that has some details. 1) taking cover was not a thing for guys in that time and place. Apparently one of Wyatt's friends saw a movie that portrayed the Earps as taking cover and the guy swore off movies forever he was so pissed. 2) The Earps and Holliday were spoiling for a fight for days. Really challenging the Clantons and McLaurys, just like what Morgan says here "if you want a fight you can have it". But they also kept telling people they were just going to disarm those cowboys. It's hard to know which motive is the real one. 3) according to the book, the Earps did actually stop and put their guns in less visible/accessible places after Beehan told them the cowboys were already disarmed. Kinda points to them actually wanting to de-escalate. But they also could have been just covering their asses. If the Cowboys actually weren't armed then the Earps can't shoot and get away with it.
@@pluginleah Fact in two Cowboys left as the Earps rounded the corner. Initially it was six against three.
Things were different then, just consider the massed volleys from the Civil War a few decades earlier. Applying today to then, cover them with rifles at 50 m, move forward with ballistic shields or at least guns out and yes, use your corners. A lot of what we take for granted today wasn't thought out then.
@@pluginleah Your detail reminds me of the film Appaloosa. The character played by Viggo Mortenson stands alone in the street and calls out. He just turns sideways to make himself a narrower target but that's it in the way of protecting himself. He's more intent on being able to shoot straight.
Wyatt-smart high at accucary and real badass
doc-speedy gonzalez and self-sacrificing “real” friend
love this scene. My old acting teacher/friend (Gabriel) plays Billy Clanton. He was very young in this movie. LOL.
Brilliant clip thanks for the upload
he tried so hard but couldnt even come close to Val's version of doc
He came first and you weren’t supposed to love him as a character. You were supposed to hate him.
@@austin4509 why? he was great
Val Kilmer's depiction of Holliday is almost cartoonish. Dennis Quaid's depiction is far more realistic.
No better Doc than Kirk Douglas
@@austin4509 actually Tombstone was released first
Wyatt Earp is a much better film because of the character study , and told its story from the beginnings, tombstone is missing so much. In tombstone, you don't see any background of Wyatt. Kevin's film is an educational, tombstone doesn't tell us more then we already know.
Hahahaha. Tombstone is miles better than this flop. Your point about story may be correct however the acting, they cinematic footage and characters in this flop was terribke compared to tombestone
@Doc Holiday tombstone, no background information, Earp gives us a complex character, less big names which makes this film more realistic. Better storytelling.
This gunfight in Wyatt Earp is more factual and closer to the real actual fight. The Tombstone gunfight was made more dramatic, a bit of hyperbole was added , no wonder it was more popular.
Yes Tombstone is the knuckleheads version, lol.
This movie is way better than tombstone, more drama more realistic, used to watch tombstone all the time, but after watching this one never again
You have a shotgun and it takes you that long to bring it into action?
This is why tombstone is 5x better. This movie didn't even try to make entertaining sense. They just changed the history. Tombstone had holiday moving across the street the whole time as the only witness (big nose Kate- holiday's girlfriend) said he did. He switched to his pistol after emptying both barrels at the boys and their horses
Troy Sorensen only thing this movie has right is that Wyatt’s brothers and holiday get shot but in tombstone it’s just the earps that get hit but tombstone is more accurate and entertaining
@@Kj-jc8oj in tombstone holiday gets winged but it doesn't play a large role for the rest of the film. I totally agree though. Tombstone is undeniably kick ass
Troy Sorensen oh I didn’t catch that
especially considering the clore range setting
One of my favorite stories of the wild west
I was a tree planter with an Earp descendant. Man was tougher out there in that weather and steepness than most of the rest of us put together.
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I consider these guys my heroes of the old west,I came from Brazil 64 years ago and fell in love with the old west and it’s history,this movie about the ok corral is the most awesome movie
... its history ...
Don't get me wrong I love the movie Tombstone but it's a cartoon compared to this film. Wayatt Earp is a straight masterpiece.
Finally! Somebody said it. Thank you. I absolutely agree. 🍺
Quaid was more interesting than Klimer. Biehn is always the same character in every film he did, at least his technique is.
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I love this movie. I e joy the realism way more, Seriously underrated due to Tombstone.
Read that Kevin Costner originally intended this movie to be a 6 episodes tv series but he was much too ahead of his time & the studios rejected it. It would have been an amazing series had it been done today. And they would have gotten funding for it.
The only part of this movie I liked more than tombstone. The march and the music was fabulous.
Jason Bowser this movie has nothing on tombstone....
@@SYCZ Tombstone has nothing on this movie. Tombstone is a comedy. It's laughable. Wyatt Earp is much better than Tombstone.
SymphonyBrahms Kevin Costner’s career is a comedy... you are out of your mind. I don’t know how people thought that guy was an A+ caliber actor... he’s the same in every movie. Even Untouchables is overrated.
The music of the gunfight at the ok corral in Tombstone was my favourit track of the hole movie LOL😂
KC was good in, " No Way Out "
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Little known fact was Costner was approached to play Earp in Tombstone but felt the character didn't have enough screen time so declined and decided to make Wyatt Earp the role went to Kurt Russell and many feel Tombstone was the better picture. Costner's ego always gets the better of him.
This movie was so great that the main battle wasn’t even the best part!! Let that sink in!
the most accurate rendition of all the movies made.
Were you there in 1881?
The movie is "accurate" only in the sense that it conforms to Stuart Lake's fanciful 1931 biography, "Wyatt Earp, Frontier Marshal." Lake's book was entirely based on the self-serving reminiscences of Earp, who benefitted from living longer than most of the people who could have contradicted him about the facts of his rather unsavory life. Just about the only old-timer still around when Earp was spinning his fables was Billy Breakenridge, who's book "Helldorado" provides quite a different perspective on the Earp brothers, Holliday, and the "gunfight at the OK Corral." More recently, Jeff Guinn did a fine job debunking the Wyatt Earp myth in his book "The Last Gunfight."
@@WildwoodClaire1 It's accurate in that it closely reflects Paula Mitchell Marks' "And Die in the West", which considers the gunfight from multiple viewpoints.
Took 3 days for them to do this 1 scene. Or was it tombstone?
@@hurricanesexxy Tombstone,i watched the making of
I'm absolutely fascinated by the uncanny similarities to the same scene in, "Tombstone"..... despite a completely different cast, crew, writer and director.
And I'm sure the real gunfight was even more different.
@@headshotsongs9465 Yep. It lasted only thirty seconds, and there were big inaccuracies in both portrayals. However, this one is actually more accurate than Tombstone.
0:14 I love that little grin Doc gives as he strolls up to them lol
The music is fucking epic when they’re walking down the street too. It’s a perfect sense of anxiousness, anger, anticipation and excitement.
I think I prefer Tombstone over Wyatt Earp. There’s no colors!
Tombstone absolutely blows this Movie out of the water
Dennis Quaid and val kilmer are likely my two favorite actors. No bigger contrast to them than these films. My childhood hero will forever be Lee Majors.
Wyatt Earp just released just after Tombstone so alot of Wyatt Earps and gun battles at OK Coral
The whole gunfight tool about 40 seconds. The film got it right.
Tombstone was the better movie, but this one is a little more historically accurate. The OK corral gunfight is a little closer to how it actually happened.
first of all their was no gunfight at the ok corral.
@@georgestokes5116 I assume you are talking about how it was down the street a little from the actual corral, but its still called that
yes
Wyatt Earp: More Accurate
Tombstone: More Entertaining
But I love em both
Best Wyatt Earp movie, Costner, Quaid.
Hollywood has done many recreations of this iconic and legendary moment in American history. A few television productions have had a crack at it as well. I can even recall Capt Kirk, Spock and co doing a version of it in one of their Star Trek episodes. A great line-up of stars here portraying some of the most notorious names known from the American old west. As was the case in Tombstone, which I think in terms of drama had the edge over this one.