Tombstone & Wyatt Earp Mash-Up

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2011
  • Gunfight at the OK Corral! It's not whether one movie is better than the other, just a fun comparison of the two renditions. Costner, Russell, Quaid and Kilmer.
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  • @TheVeregat
    @TheVeregat Před 3 lety +143

    Sam Elliot has the most cowboy voice to ever voice a cowboy

    • @trevormiles5852
      @trevormiles5852 Před 2 lety

      I am a fairly intelligent guy, two degrees one in engineering. But when Sam Elliot died in Road House, I truly felt he had died. Next few times I saw him in the news. I had to do a double take and ask myself.. Wait , I thought he was dead.

    • @danbev8542
      @danbev8542 Před 2 lety +2

      Not to mention the mustache, the cheekbones - his whole demeanor.

    • @user-yc3ys4cg4p
      @user-yc3ys4cg4p Před 2 lety

      Ben Johnson and Walter Brenan

    • @beerthug
      @beerthug Před 2 lety

      Sam Elliot can't act. Just changes his clothing for the era, and voila insta cop.

  • @KRW628
    @KRW628 Před 3 lety +33

    Doc - "What do you think, darling? Should I hate him?
    Kate - "You don't even know him"
    TOMBSTONE!

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM Před 3 lety

      Mike from Vine Ave, Roseville?

    • @KRW628
      @KRW628 Před 3 lety

      Nope. Michael from King Drive, Chicago

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM Před 3 lety

      @@KRW628 No Prob, the search goes on...

  • @richardnosiglia3736
    @richardnosiglia3736 Před 5 lety +107

    "I know, let's have a SPELLING CONTEST..." Hilarious......

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Před 3 lety

      Izzy wizzy let's get busy. Oh wait you mean ABCs?

  • @chrismccray361
    @chrismccray361 Před rokem +26

    The Wyatt Earp cast was very good but the Tombstone ensemble was spectacular.

  • @NylonStrap
    @NylonStrap Před 3 lety +46

    As far as music, I thought Tombstone's was more iconic. Also, that wink from Val's Holliday was such an intense way to break the building tension.

    • @jimtruscott5670
      @jimtruscott5670 Před 2 lety +2

      His wink increased the tension among the gunfighters.

    • @ronniedickerson7899
      @ronniedickerson7899 Před 2 lety +1

      Holliday started the shit when he winked and even smiled! LMAO

  • @johndougherty7033
    @johndougherty7033 Před 4 lety +286

    The planets must of been aligned the day the tombstone cast was put together

    • @josephzanes7334
      @josephzanes7334 Před 4 lety +5

      Maybe even blessed by Christ Himself

    • @dariusm9798
      @dariusm9798 Před 4 lety +3

      Zappa please go fuck yourself.

    • @dariusm9798
      @dariusm9798 Před 4 lety +1

      @T. Zappa Don't correct someones spelling on a youtube comment and try and sound all smart.

    • @leoafalava2527
      @leoafalava2527 Před 4 lety +3

      T. Zappa Your father your mother never told you

    • @yoloswaggins5385
      @yoloswaggins5385 Před 3 lety +2

      sugafoot jones i get where your coming from its always cringy to see people who feel the need to correct grammer on youtube makes them look ignorant themselves but you cussing him out doesnt help much either

  • @DaveH-10
    @DaveH-10 Před 4 lety +287

    Val Kilmer was oscar worthy his performance is legendary.

    • @EtherMagic
      @EtherMagic Před 4 lety +1

      Yea, as a Broadway actor, he played Wyatt Earp way over the top, like how actors played cowboys in 50's movie's.

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 3 lety +6

      I agree. But the snobery in Hollywood did not want a western to win any Oscars. Shame.

    • @rbarnett3200
      @rbarnett3200 Před 3 lety +3

      shit man, he should've been Oscar's huckleberry, fo' sho'!

    • @leeh9420
      @leeh9420 Před 3 lety +7

      The story goes that Kurt Russell took over direction of the movie and cut a lot of pieces out, many of his own. My personal theory is he saw what Val Kilmer was doing and decided to showcase it. Honestly, I don't much care for Val Kilmer, but this was an Oscar-worthy performance IMHO

    • @samajojo3042
      @samajojo3042 Před 3 lety

      Exactly.👍🏻

  • @rofyle
    @rofyle Před 7 lety +19

    Tombstone - better actors, better action, better quotes, better drama.
    "The fight's commenced, get to fightin' or get away."

  • @Calbenmike
    @Calbenmike Před 5 lety +27

    Tombstone has been my all time favorite movie for over 25 years.

  • @patio87
    @patio87 Před 8 lety +894

    Not even comparable. Tombstone is a masterpiece.

    • @Raymond-rr5iv
      @Raymond-rr5iv Před 6 lety +13

      Tombstone : So much fun , entertainment better than multitudes of facts... "believing makes it so"! :)♡

    • @mike1967sam
      @mike1967sam Před 5 lety +7

      And you wouldn't know a good movie if it bit you in the ass...just gimme action a lot of action screw the acting or the screenplay, right?

    • @ghendar
      @ghendar Před 5 lety +19

      Love em both. Why choose between the two. Kilmer was fantastic but Quaid was no slouch as Doc

    • @3trilogy
      @3trilogy Před 5 lety +11

      @@ghendar So true!!! Both Dennis Quaid and Val Kilmer were awesome.

    • @alexandersonceltic
      @alexandersonceltic Před 4 lety +13

      Prefer wyatt earp

  • @cobycapri8913
    @cobycapri8913 Před 3 lety +159

    All the way tombstone, Val Kilmer and Kurt Russell man, the best

    • @SGTJDerek
      @SGTJDerek Před 3 lety +4

      Don't forget Sam and Bill. Especially Sam.

    • @richardcolligon4277
      @richardcolligon4277 Před 2 lety +2

      Val Kilmer should have gotten an Academy award for best actor!

  • @catmingus7364
    @catmingus7364 Před 7 lety +99

    Tombstone had so much to see! Incredible cast and no small part. Every speaking role a fully realized character. Loved Powers Booth as Curley Bell and Billy Bob Thornton as the Gasbag "Johnny." Too many more to mention - they were ALL great! Best western film of the last 40 years and hands down the best Earp and Doc Holliday.

    • @SGTJDerek
      @SGTJDerek Před 3 lety +6

      Can't agree about THE best Western. Unforgiven , Lonesome Dove, Open Range and Silverado. 3:10 to Yuma ain't no slouch either. I do agree about being the best Wyatt and Doc though.

    • @briandubois-gilbert8182
      @briandubois-gilbert8182 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SGTJDerek excellent list-I’d add-Appaloosa (Ed Harris, Viggo Mortensen), and The Big Country (Gregory Peck, Charlton Heston, Burl Ives) with its classic musical score by Jerome Moross.

    • @fredtowns78
      @fredtowns78 Před 2 lety

      Which one??? Curt or Kevin??

    • @ppvk2610
      @ppvk2610 Před 2 lety +1

      That was what Wyatt Earp was lacking, every speaking role a fully realised character.
      I couldn't really tell the cowboys apart

    • @bauerj3398
      @bauerj3398 Před 2 lety

      Tombstone was definitely better than Wyatt Earp, but is not even close to the best Western of the last 40 years.

  • @graylobo133
    @graylobo133 Před 8 lety +21

    "How the hell did we get our selves into this" I have said those words more than once....

  • @pegasisilver6249
    @pegasisilver6249 Před 4 lety +25

    It´s really amazing, looking at them both this way, how much better the supporting cast is in tombstone.

  • @davidungacta3980
    @davidungacta3980 Před 6 lety +129

    The villians in tombstone totally outclassed wyat earps villians. You kidding me powers booth icke clanton and Ringo are trult memorable

    • @Ship-security
      @Ship-security Před 4 lety +2

      This is true.

    • @jasont9907
      @jasont9907 Před 4 lety +1

      Powers booth was outstanding especially looking at his normal appearance

    • @jamietodd2560
      @jamietodd2560 Před 4 lety +3

      Powers Boothe
      Stephen Lang
      John Biehn
      Thomas Haden Church
      That's an all-star cast by itself.

    • @perry801
      @perry801 Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly. The villains in "Wyatt Earp" were cardboard cut-out characters just there to be shot and killed. They completely lacked the character they were given in "Tombstone."

    • @ConnorNotyerbidness
      @ConnorNotyerbidness Před 3 lety

      @Jeffery Preece ya and Tombstone is the only Earp film to also star Wyatt Earp
      ....the third...but still. They got an actual relative of wyatt to play Billy Claiborne

  • @bigglefty75
    @bigglefty75 Před 5 lety +20

    Tombstone is King here and Vil Kilmer was spot on no competition

  • @crempster
    @crempster Před 5 lety +18

    Tombstone hands down.I tried to watch Wyatt Earp twice and couldn’t make it through either time.

  • @rousefire
    @rousefire Před 7 lety +178

    I watched Wyatt Earp once . Tombstone , probably a dozen times . The casting on Tombstone is a much better . Kilmer was given the best role and he ran with it .

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 4 lety

      What is Kilmer doing these days. Always liked him.

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 4 lety

      Kilmer was in top form.

    • @ConnorNotyerbidness
      @ConnorNotyerbidness Před 3 lety +3

      @@kevinquinn3763 kilmer lost his voice entirely due to throat cancer
      The surgery to remove it means hell never speak again sadly

    • @hawkinatorgamer9725
      @hawkinatorgamer9725 Před 3 lety

      This sums it up pretty well for me as well. Kilmer's portrayal of Doc Holiday is probably my favorite roll I have ever watched. He was awesome the entire movie. Also, you can google a real life picture of Doc Holiday with Wyatt Earp, Kilmer nailed it.

    • @yhs6308
      @yhs6308 Před 2 lety

      islington

  • @mysticx0
    @mysticx0 Před 6 lety +49

    speaking only for myself, tombstone is a perfect movie. just a fantastic 2 hour ride.

  • @hey.hombre
    @hey.hombre Před 5 lety +8

    I watched both. Tombstone is victorious. I've only watched Wyatt Earp once. Tombstone several times. I never get tired of it. I find something new everytime.

  • @figgeberglund4145
    @figgeberglund4145 Před 4 lety +13

    I saw Wyatt Earp first. It would be typical for me to stick with that one. But when I saw Tombstone I changed my mind. WE is good but Tombstone is wonderful.

  • @davyhookbones
    @davyhookbones Před 6 lety +36

    Tombstone is and always will be one of the great westerns of all time, thank goodness for Val Kilmar & Kurt Russell

  • @charlieswearingenii4961
    @charlieswearingenii4961 Před 4 lety +7

    Best Western made in the last 30 years. Period.

  • @thomasbaron5367
    @thomasbaron5367 Před 4 lety +17

    Tombstone is more historically accurate it's on record that Ike stepped forward when the shooting started and Wyatt really did tell him "the fights commenced, get in the fight, or get away." and tossed him aside
    And Wyatt never moved a single step
    He stood his ground like a statue and not a single bullet ever touched him

  • @Abbadonhades
    @Abbadonhades Před 4 lety +165

    Wyatt Earp may be more historically accurate, but I cannot really remember a single scene from that movie. Tombstone is full of memorable scenes, and some incredible dialogue. For entertainment value I would choose Tombstone every time.

    • @voxpox1850
      @voxpox1850 Před 4 lety +4

      Every scene Quaid is in is classic.

    • @VAHOSS
      @VAHOSS Před 4 lety +3

      @@tylerschwalbe2848 it's more accurate if you compare it to Ike Clanton's testimony that he gave about the shoot out

    • @Briguy1027
      @Briguy1027 Před 3 lety +7

      Tombstone just seems to set the mood better.

    • @craigtucker1290
      @craigtucker1290 Před 3 lety +3

      I can barely remember Tombstone, but for me it is because the movie was so full of Hollywood BS that I purged most of it from my memory whereas Wyatt Earp I found to be more believable and therefore more immersive.

    • @CG-vn8iy
      @CG-vn8iy Před 3 lety

      I do remember the stuff pre-Tombstone. Just because the movie Tombstone doesn't mention any of it. When his wife died, when he was in trouble with the law, when he met Bat and so forth. But the Tombstone part of the movie wasn't comparable.

  • @dennismay8937
    @dennismay8937 Před 7 lety +64

    tombstone is the best of the two movie

  • @JoefromNJ1
    @JoefromNJ1 Před 4 lety +7

    difference between doc and the rest of them is he doesn't care if he dies.

    • @tudyk21
      @tudyk21 Před 2 lety +1

      He already knows that his time on Earth has been shortened by tuberculosis.

  • @latestplague3762
    @latestplague3762 Před 4 lety +69

    I've always wanted a suit like in Tombstone. When these guys walk down that street it's a powerful moment. Of course in Tombstone there's a powerful moment every 30 secs. I have to say there is no other movie that has had the amount of quotes it has. Everyone talks about Russell and of course Kilmer who hands down steals the Thunder but Sam Elliot who has always been one of my favorite actors and Paxton help seal the deal. The entire cast actually blend together seamlessly in this film helping making it immortal. I still want one of those damn suits.

    • @CFH1962
      @CFH1962 Před 4 lety +5

      Paxton's eye watching Ringo playing w/ his gun n later doc mimic w/ his cup

    • @mikeaubuchon8573
      @mikeaubuchon8573 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah I like the dusters , and the whole western outfits .
      Amazon has a Tombstone Doc t shirt with all of Doc's quotes on it . I just bought it.
      You know a movie is great when people still love it after 25 plus years .

    • @Michael-um5pd
      @Michael-um5pd Před 8 měsíci

      I still have my coat, it was hand made for me back in 1984 still in really good shape ?

    • @jimalcock1645
      @jimalcock1645 Před 5 měsíci

      Well stated! 6:22

  • @themanwithnoname2857
    @themanwithnoname2857 Před 4 lety +36

    As much as i love Costner as an actor, Tombstone wins by a landslide. I can't believe Costner took that role

    • @johnnyappleseed8127
      @johnnyappleseed8127 Před 2 lety +1

      I like both but yeah Tombstone is better. Costner did a good job playing Wyatt but not better than Kurt. That's how great Kurt was as Wyatt, he made Costner version look like an amateur. Not to mention Kurt whole supporting cast. They pretty much had a dream team in Tombstone. But the amazing thing about both movies is that they are great westerns in the 90's.

    • @joepermenter7228
      @joepermenter7228 Před 2 lety

      Baseball was getting out of style Blondie.

  • @TheArkDoc
    @TheArkDoc Před 7 lety +151

    Tombstone is the better film, and it's not even close. Better cinematography, better acting, better screenplay, and some of the best one-liners ever put on film. Val Kilmer as doc holiday...completely epic. You're no Daisy! He should have won an Oscar for that role.

    • @jwholland73
      @jwholland73 Před 7 lety +7

      TheArkDoc You're a daisy if you do ;)

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před 7 lety +2

      TheArkDoc disagree

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 Před 7 lety +6

      One of the major problems I have with Wyatt Earp is the movie seems dark, drab and cramped compared to Tombstone. All of that is the lighting and cinematography, plus editing. Tombstone just seemed brighter, more colorful, bigger and grander than it's competitor. It really helps the movie.

    • @dickdurkin2895
      @dickdurkin2895 Před 7 lety +4

      Don't forget the score ! Tombstone just has that movie magic.

    • @BEBNC1
      @BEBNC1 Před 6 lety +3

      That's exactly what I don't like about Tombstone...and why I like Wyatt Earp far more. IMO, Costner and Quaid's performances were just flat-out better and more 'life like'...really, just better acting. But this is just my opinion. More about 'taste' I guess.

  • @Xtrememaker
    @Xtrememaker Před 8 lety +620

    Val Kilmer, the best doc Holliday

    • @cfranco5427
      @cfranco5427 Před 6 lety +17

      "Nonsense. I've not yet begun to defile myself."

    • @mariocisneros911
      @mariocisneros911 Před 6 lety +5

      Nuts , the other in Warp more authentic , and mean

    • @keiichimaebara3754
      @keiichimaebara3754 Před 5 lety +4

      @@mariocisneros911 Actually I think kilmore is more authentic to how he acts he is more intimidating eating in close to the myth The only thing that Wade had going for him is he looked like the character nothing more though

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Před 5 lety +3

      Well really Doc Holliday has that priveledge himself, Val was just impersonating him.

    • @NLBrown-gz2qe
      @NLBrown-gz2qe Před 4 lety +6

      keiichi maebara Quaid seemed to have a better accent and actually seemed sick. If Kilmer’s Doc wasn’t sweating you wouldn’t have thought he was sick

  • @willwiegand3299
    @willwiegand3299 Před 7 lety +6

    Val deserved a Oscar, Quaid deserved a ice cream sandwich.

    • @chrisflaherty8991
      @chrisflaherty8991 Před 2 lety

      Quaid was the best Doc Holliday.

    • @tudyk21
      @tudyk21 Před 8 měsíci

      So many forgettable roles & characters in "Wyatt Earp".

  • @darkwolf9253
    @darkwolf9253 Před 6 lety +5

    I'll never understand the need to compare the two films... Tombstone and Wyatt Earp are different enough that I view them as companion pieces, not films that are competing with each other. They both work really well as they are, and I wouldn't change either.

    • @DarkLordDiablos
      @DarkLordDiablos Před 3 lety

      The two can't really be compared due to one being more of a biopic and the other being more of a movie based on one part of that mans life.
      What's being compared here are the differences in the O.K. Corral scene.

  • @ray.shoesmith
    @ray.shoesmith Před 5 lety +128

    Tombstone is quality cinema, Wyatt Earp is public broadcasting TV

    • @stonehenges5722
      @stonehenges5722 Před 3 lety

      Funny.. I see it just the opposite. Kevin Costner is quite westerner..

  • @joemontano6956
    @joemontano6956 Před 4 lety +2

    Kevin Costner is an awesome actor, but these movies are day n night!!!!! TOMBSTONE is an iconic movie that will B watched for generations. One of the best Westerns ever made

  • @yanknoz9710
    @yanknoz9710 Před 4 lety +3

    No question which is best. Tombstone. Simply no comparison.

  • @davidcook5705
    @davidcook5705 Před 11 měsíci +13

    Both were good movies. "Wyatt Earp" was more in depth about the life of Wyatt Earp, while "Tombstone" was just about the Earp's time in Tombstone. I liked them both.

  • @snes06
    @snes06 Před 10 lety +152

    "I'm your huckleberry."

  • @lelandframe6927
    @lelandframe6927 Před 7 lety +296

    TOMBSTONE RULES! (Even WITH the bad film edit that made it look like Doc shot 3 times from a double-barrel shotgun!)

    • @dannytedford1896
      @dannytedford1896 Před 5 lety +18

      I thought so 2 but it was just a different angle of the 2nd shot. It was the same guy Val killed behind the horse that they showed a close up shot in the scene just b4 that 1.

    • @adventuressurvivalinthailand
      @adventuressurvivalinthailand Před 5 lety +6

      How many movies have shown an explosion from different angles but noone says it was a mistake.

    • @ktcarl
      @ktcarl Před 5 lety +2

      @@dannytedford1896 - What about the guy behind the "grassy knoll"?

    • @dannytedford1896
      @dannytedford1896 Před 5 lety

      @Silverfang63 well to me it looks that way. N isn't he wearing the same clothes or is that 2 different guys in the same get up?

    • @dannytedford1896
      @dannytedford1896 Před 5 lety

      @@ktcarl lol that's a good one

  • @peterkay2056
    @peterkay2056 Před 8 lety +93

    say what you want about what movie was better but Tombstones Doc Holiday was by far better Val Kilmer fucking owned it

    • @carrotteeman4008
      @carrotteeman4008 Před 8 lety +5

      +Peter Kay I agree,he made the movie,Where in wyatt earp he was just the after thought.

    • @luismanuelaranda4676
      @luismanuelaranda4676 Před 7 lety +14

      johnny ringo wasn't bad either.

    • @Roberto9722
      @Roberto9722 Před 7 lety +4

      Agreed,he played an excellent role,a convincing bad guy!

    • @stennishampton6534
      @stennishampton6534 Před 7 lety +1

      So true, Val Kilmer is the man

    • @ionthegravity2
      @ionthegravity2 Před 6 lety

      That's crazy. I remembered nothing about Kilmer's portrayl, but I always remembered Quaid's version. In fact, I specifically remembered Quaid's walking scene to the shootout. 20 years later.... and all I remember was Quaid.

  • @ThePolareyes53
    @ThePolareyes53 Před 6 lety +115

    Let's see now, Kevin "Woodface" Costner or Kurt "Mr Intensity" Russell...I'll go with Tombstone.

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 3 lety +7

      Costners version lost millions at the box office. Did not compare to Tombstone. Costner's version was horrid.

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 3 lety +1

      good choice.

  • @claud1961
    @claud1961 Před 4 lety +20

    I think Tombstone had a greater buildup and you remember the 'villains'. Powers Boothe, Stephan Lang, Thomas Haden Church, and of course Michael Biehn- you got a feel for them and not just our main characters. You can find a bit more historical accuracy from Wyatt Earp, but not enough considering most of the story from Earp comes from Josephine, and she definitely wanted to gloss it over- that is documented in her instructions to Stuart Lake. The one thing I thought was strange in Wyatt Earp was the inclusion of Johnny Ringo for 2 seconds as Doc guns him down at Iron Springs. He doesn't really merit the attention he got in Tombstone because he wasn't a gunfighter, more of a big talker. He wasn't involved any time there was a real fight going on, and his kills were shooting folks in the back for no good reason.
    Wyat Earp had a lot going for it. It details the early days, his Father- who doesn't love Gene Hackman's, Nicholas Earp? And the early backstory with Doc that Tombstone takes for granted. On the other hand, Tombstone was about that- the only parts outside that city and it's concerns were a small portion of the movie.

    • @DavidGridley
      @DavidGridley Před 2 lety

      Church at the OK Corral.. his reaction to Kilmer's wink made that scene

  • @TheJhaley12
    @TheJhaley12 Před 7 lety +189

    Tombstone all the way. Kilmer and Russel can't be beat.

    • @susiehollis3544
      @susiehollis3544 Před 5 lety +1

      Wrong!! Costner and quasi were the best Wyatt earp and doc Holliday.

    • @matthewterry9413
      @matthewterry9413 Před 4 lety +1

      Susie Hollis straight troll comment lol

    • @warriorhealth2172
      @warriorhealth2172 Před 4 lety

      @It's About Time Kurt Russell was a winey baby in Tombstone! Val Kilmer was amazing as Doc and stole the show. Costner was a much better Wyatt Earp. Also Wyatt Earp was a all around better movie.

    • @warriorhealth2172
      @warriorhealth2172 Před 4 lety +2

      @@susiehollis3544 Agree! Costner was great! Val Kilmer was a better Doc though...

    • @barreloffun10
      @barreloffun10 Před 4 lety

      @It's About Time Open Range was good.

  • @MrJabez89
    @MrJabez89 Před 8 lety +288

    Tombstone wins in every possible way

    • @envycruz
      @envycruz Před 7 lety +8

      yup !! exactly too much Character in tombstone, compare the 2 wyatt Earp mobie is dead. I did the reserch on Doc Holliday and Dennis Quaid played Closer to the Role than Val Kilmer, but it was boring and plain Dull!!but Val Kilmer stole the movie!!

    • @grego7345
      @grego7345 Před 7 lety +7

      envycruz I agree, don't get me wrong, Quaid played a decent Holliday, but there's no comparison to Val Kilmer.

    • @envycruz
      @envycruz Před 7 lety +3

      Yup...! .. agreed

    • @CommandaInChief
      @CommandaInChief Před 7 lety +9

      MrJabez89 Definitely! Tombstone! No comparison there

    • @Mr508films
      @Mr508films Před 7 lety +12

      I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there. While Tombstone may have been commercially more successful and "Hollywoody", The Gunfight was much more accurately depicted in Wyatt Earp. Ike NEVER got a gun in his hands during the fight, Josephine Marcus was not in Fly's photo studio during the fight and and the actual personality of Wyatt was not as squeaky clean. Wyatt wanted that fight just as much as the Clantons and McCLaury's did. He had his foot on both sides of the law. Russell did look exactly like Earp but Costner's portrayal was much closer to the real Earp. The fight took less than 30 seconds. And how did Doc's double barrel (that's two barrels) go off three times in Tombstone? Earp's words to Clanton to get out of the way in "Tombstone" were true, as was Morgan's attitude in "Wyatt Earp" I prefer Wyatt Earp over Tombstone.

  • @CRaZyPE143
    @CRaZyPE143 Před 10 lety +6

    blaq7427 yeah ok! That's why everybody loves it and praises it as a classic. It may not be 100% accurate but the acting and costumes and shootouts are 100% amazing.

  • @CatLives9
    @CatLives9 Před 5 lety +10

    "Tombstone" was more a mythical telling of Wyatt Earp. "Wyatt Earp" was more biographical account on Wyatt Earp.

  • @krokodyl1927
    @krokodyl1927 Před 6 lety +39

    Val Kilmer did a fabulous job of acting Doc Holiday’s role. Absolute perfection as in all his work.

  • @clay-face5313
    @clay-face5313 Před 6 lety +93

    Am I the only one that feels like Wyatt Earp looks like an off brand version of the far superior Tombstone.

    • @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
      @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys Před 6 lety +3

      No you're not~!!!

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 3 lety +1

      I am to.

    • @DarkLordDiablos
      @DarkLordDiablos Před 3 lety +1

      I guess you could put that down to the cinematography.
      The scenes shown here feel more like a TV movie or show rather than a movie made for the box office.

  • @madamebkrt
    @madamebkrt Před 5 lety +5

    Tombstone is the best, hands down...The suspense this scene gave was fantastic!

  • @masercot
    @masercot Před 7 lety +300

    Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer take the prize. You can't match their intensity and presence.

    • @CathieSoli
      @CathieSoli Před 7 lety +31

      Russell is a much better actor than Costner. Quaid is good but he is no Kilmer.

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 Před 7 lety +16

      Quaid seemed out of place as Doc Holliday. And Russell just fit the part of Wyatt better.

    • @Mr508films
      @Mr508films Před 7 lety +8

      Russell looked exactly like Earp but he was not as squeaky clean as Russell made him out to be. And he WANTED that fight with the cowboys.

    • @ionthegravity2
      @ionthegravity2 Před 6 lety +4

      Oh hell no. Dennis Quaid looked absolutely EVIL as Holliday. He sold it 10x what Kilmer did. Plus Costner's film had the balls to shoot the horse.

    • @dmfour
      @dmfour Před 6 lety +4

      Actually if you do some research you will find that Kilmer played the role much closer to the real Doc.

  • @cp2888
    @cp2888 Před 9 lety +27

    I liked both movies, but to me the only actor who didnt look like a cowboy impersonator in either movie was sam elliott. He was spot on for his character and showed true cowboy grit and atitude. The others acted well, but he was a true natural for his role. I loved the ending of "wyatt earp" better too. And kurt russell looked like a virtual wyatt earp twin.
    In all, good effort from both versions. And both doc hollidays were good too. Each actor brought his own personality to the character

    • @KiwiKugai
      @KiwiKugai Před 8 lety +4

      +cp2 True, but that's Sam Elliott. Stick him in any era in any Movie he's in and you still get the same laconic, understated 'Real Cowboy' performance outta him. Love it whenever he's on screen in any movie, he just steals the moment or moments he's in without even trying.

    • @33MarciS
      @33MarciS Před 6 lety +3

      KiwiKugai - I'm still sad about Sam Elliott's death in Roadhouse. 😊 He's always great.

    • @halzendle498
      @halzendle498 Před 4 lety +1

      Agreed! Both movies are captivating; once you start watching you are in it until the end!

  • @billhuber2964
    @billhuber2964 Před 6 lety +10

    VAL KILMER STOLE THE SHOW .

  • @bekkasawyer8401
    @bekkasawyer8401 Před 11 lety +19

    Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer were the BEST!!!! Tombstone hands down!!!!

  • @thug4Lifelrapcrapl
    @thug4Lifelrapcrapl Před 9 lety +53

    Tombstone was the shit, Wyatt Earp ehhhh. Val as Doc just EPIC! "I'm your huckleberry". Great cast is all i gotta say.

  • @johndennis5182
    @johndennis5182 Před 7 lety +287

    I don't have to watch this, to know the answer. Tombstone Wins hands down.

    • @1339LARS
      @1339LARS Před 5 lety +3

      Yepper !

    • @RaghibAbdulShakoor
      @RaghibAbdulShakoor Před 4 lety +6

      Absolutely there's is no comparison, Tombstone way better.

    • @kevinquinn3763
      @kevinquinn3763 Před 3 lety +2

      No comparison. Hollywood does not like to give Oscars to westerns. Eastwood got one for "The Unforgiven" but that was quite sometime ago. But Val Kilmer was fantastic.

    • @pigbenis74
      @pigbenis74 Před 3 lety +1

      They were both some time ago. “Unforgiven” was released in the summer of 1992 and “Tombstone” was late 1993.

  • @williampoff3096
    @williampoff3096 Před 6 lety +2

    Tombstone........It has no equal!! A Val Kilmer is the epitome of a southern gentleman!! He was Doc Holliday reincarnated!! How he and all the cast didn't get Oscars.......Well, the world may never know!! God bless the cast of Tombstone!!

  • @davidshelton3512
    @davidshelton3512 Před 6 lety +5

    Russell, Elliott, Kilmer and Paxton ! Need I say More !

  • @jacquettanichols5801
    @jacquettanichols5801 Před rokem +6

    THIS IS VAL'S BEST PERFORMANCE YET!!!!

  • @kathrynmolesa1641
    @kathrynmolesa1641 Před 3 lety +10

    Tombstone had the better cast. You can't beat Kurt and Val.
    Music was epic.

  • @redcarpeteater6903
    @redcarpeteater6903 Před 4 lety +3

    I liked both movies, liked all the actors. Kilmer and Quaid were both great with their takes on Doc Holiday, Kilmer should have won an Oscar.

  • @iheartbridalcouture5989
    @iheartbridalcouture5989 Před 4 lety +11

    Tombstone was actually rumored to be directed by Kurt Russell. I think it was a grade A western. And Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar

  • @coltsfan79
    @coltsfan79 Před 3 lety +5

    The other actor in Tombstone who didn't get his just dues besides Val Kilmer was Michael Biehn who played Johnny Ringo, I met him at a meet and greet years ago and I was like this is Johnny Ringo?

  • @robertvalderaz7329
    @robertvalderaz7329 Před 6 lety +1

    I can assure you Wyatt Earp, would be proud.

  • @philipthomson7460
    @philipthomson7460 Před 4 lety +3

    Barber....proceed, Sir. 😆👍

  • @samsummers2202
    @samsummers2202 Před 7 lety +7

    Tombstone is your huckleberry

  • @davidbalderston2751
    @davidbalderston2751 Před 4 lety +3

    More like the cast of Tombstone vs. Wyatt Earp. There is no comparison!

  • @troyhooper6896
    @troyhooper6896 Před 3 lety +2

    I like both movies but tombstone Val Kilmer play that part perfectly Kurt Russell he did a great job too

  • @kennethlucas7473
    @kennethlucas7473 Před 7 lety +1

    "You sons of bitches have been lookin' for a fight, now you can have it"......GOLDEN!!!

  • @jamesmorris9384
    @jamesmorris9384 Před 5 lety +12

    Tombstone all the way, It's almost a toss up Kilmer's and Quaid's performances of Doc Holliday but, from my research (I was hooked on the Doc Holliday narrative after seeing Tombstone) Kilmer portrayed Holliday's dry humour better. The way he delivered the"walking on water" reply, is perfect! When Creek, who says "hell, I have a lot of friends" the way Kilmer delivers the reply with "I don't" nails the character for me!

    • @jrock2264
      @jrock2264 Před rokem

      Toss up? Are you kidding? Kilmer was off the charts.

  • @wendyoliver2438
    @wendyoliver2438 Před 5 lety +4

    I like Wyatt Earp. More of a story telling about how Wyatt Earp became who he became. But I did like Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday. He had some great lines! Both are great movies in my opinion. As far as I’m concerned, they’re tied. 6 in one, half dozen in the other.

  • @jamesalexander5623
    @jamesalexander5623 Před 4 lety +1

    I've been to Tombstone 4 times .... I visit my Brother and his Wife in Chandler AZ in the Last Week of October for my Birthday .... And I like to be in Tombstone on that Day .... October 26th! ... And my Vote goes to Tombstone!

  • @killgore86
    @killgore86 Před 9 lety +50

    The story is Kevin Costner was given the script to Tombstone. He then decided to make his own Wyatt Earp movie himself. He did everything he could to shut down Tombstone's production by tying up costumes, props, etc. As anyone knows Tombstone ended up being the far superior film sans the last 15 minutes of Rambo on horseback due to the insane director George Cosmatos. I remember Costner being quoted as saying he wished Tombstone never existed. His success with Dancing With Wolves swelled his head and made him a real asshole. If he cared so much about making a factual Wyatt Earp movie he could have at least came into it in shape, but he did not. Wyatt Earp is as bloated as Costner while Tombstone despite its many production problems is a classic with Val Kilmer's best performance.

    • @venturatheace1
      @venturatheace1 Před 8 lety +2

      exactly

    • @cheapseats12
      @cheapseats12 Před 7 lety

      Costner had nothing against working on Tombstone, he simply wanted more focus on Wyatt Earp and his whole life story, which is why he left to start his own project. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to do a full biopic on Earp. Costner prolly does wish Tombstone never existed because if it didn't, Wyatt Earp prolly would have been better received.

    • @killgore86
      @killgore86 Před 7 lety +3

      It's one thing to go and make your own movie after you see one is already in production, but he tried to sink the one that gave him the inspiration. And if he cared so much about his project why did he come in heavy. I got nothing against Kevin, he's a North OC boy, but dirty pool aIn't cool.

    • @Mr508films
      @Mr508films Před 6 lety

      the word you are trying to use is "probably" not prolly

    • @niks7643
      @niks7643 Před 6 lety +7

      George P. Cosmatos was the director of Tombstone in name only. Tombstone was actually directed by Kurt Russell. Sylvester Stallone used Cosmatos for Rambo 2 in a similar way and recommended to Russell he do the same. It was agreed by all parties that they would keep the arrangement secret as long as they were alive. Since Cosmatos' death a few years ago, information has trickled out about Russell's true role as director of the film.

  • @johnnychaos152
    @johnnychaos152 Před 4 lety +6

    As a relative of Doc Holliday, Dennis Quaid is definitely the best portrayal of the actual man to date. The Costner film even showed the violent relationship between Doc and Kate. Tombstone portrays them as an almost Bonnie and Clyde type couple but in reality Doc was arrested 8 or 9 times for beating the ever loving crap out of her. 😕

    • @MrBrachiatingApe
      @MrBrachiatingApe Před 2 lety

      You're a relative of Doc Holliday...? Or were you saying Dennis Quaid is? The way you phrased it is ambiguous, though I'm almost certain I know what you mean.
      And Quaid might be more realistic, but Kilmer is infinitely more iconic. His Doc is one of the most fan-celebrated characters in the last 30 or 40 years of Hollywood.
      Somewhat related...Wyatt Earp looks, sounds, and feels so flat, so anemic, and so clunky next to Tombstone. I've never seen side-by-side comparisons, but Costner's film feels like somebody videotaped the world's most expensive high school drama production next to the crisper, more dynamic, and more exciting Tombstone.
      Can't think of a way that Costner's movie might be of the same quality as Tombstone, let alone better in any way... but Val Kilmer takes an awesome movie, a hugely fun Western, and elevates it into fan/cult favorite/classic, a truly unique movie. I'm not saying it's some highbrow Shakespearian Arte for Tout Le Monde and All Time, but it's the most enjoyable Western movie I've ever seen; Val Kilmer's best character ever, which is a serious statement; Kurt Russell's best or second-best character ever (tied with Macready in The Thing, IMO), one of the most fun action/summer blockbuster type movies ever made, and it has the most quotable lines in any movie I've ever seen. For me, it's the #3 most quotable text, behind the Bible and Hamlet, and I'm being serious in estimating how much I quote from which source. The only competition used to be Fear of a Black Hat, but that's dropped to 4, maybe 5 in the last 10 or 15 years.

  • @TheHealthJunkie
    @TheHealthJunkie Před 9 lety +39

    After watching Tombstone, I couldn't even finish Wyatt Earp. It was so slowwwww, and Kevin Costner's acting was just unfathomably bad. Sorry, there's just no comparison. Tombstone is epic, perfectly paced, action-packed, with enthralling characterizations even from the minor characters. Wyatt Earp is like a stale piece of historically accurate toast that I couldn't help but spit out, and Tombstone is like garlic bread straight out of the oven. I want more!!

  • @foxwolf316
    @foxwolf316 Před 2 lety +1

    I love both versions of It, I love how In both scenes when there walking to the O K Corral One scene has calm silence music, and the other has seriousness to It with the music playing loud and really mean, that's amazing.

  • @1ballz08
    @1ballz08 Před 4 lety +2

    I fuckin' love 'em both for my own reasons. Great films, man!

  • @chrisjaybecker4395
    @chrisjaybecker4395 Před 7 lety +70

    True story: Costner was originally cast in Tombstone, but he disagreed with screenwriter Kevin Jarre on the film focusing on the ensemble rather than on Wyatt. Costner left the project, then teamed up with Lawrence Kasdan to make Wyatt Earp.
    I prefer Tombstone in almost every way, except that Mark Harmon was a better John Behan than Jon Tenney. Quaid's Doc Holiday was also ALMOST as good as Kilmer's, but Kilmer had better one-liners. Michael Madsen as Virgil Earp is just weirdly wrong compared to Sam Elliott. Madsen's presence makes me feel like Harvey Keitel is gonna come walking around the corner with Steve Buscemi.

    • @Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
      @Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Před 5 lety +3

      Two words: Joanna Going
      Two more words: Yes Please

    • @colinp2238
      @colinp2238 Před 5 lety +3

      And thos awful moustaches in Wyatt Earp!

    • @Geronimo_Jehoshaphat
      @Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Před 5 lety +15

      @@colinp2238
      It's not that Wyatt Earp had awful moustaches, it's just that Tombstone had glorious moustaches.

    • @halzendle498
      @halzendle498 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Haha!

    • @rdnck891
      @rdnck891 Před 4 lety +4

      Damn......that's agent Gibbs from NCIS

  • @barnabywylde2224
    @barnabywylde2224 Před 10 lety +119

    I like them both. Tombstone is just closer to being a "popcorn muncher" while Wyatt Earp is close to being a miniseries with an eye for detail most westerns do not have. I know I'm in the minority but I like Dennis Quaid's Doc Holliday best. His suffering and sense of humiliation seems so real to me ( I did enjoy Kilmer's Holliday's use of his wit and humor as well as copious amount of alcohol to keep himself going ). Both are good movies IMO.

    • @maxpain2037
      @maxpain2037 Před 9 lety +12

      I actually think quaid is better too

    • @ionthegravity2
      @ionthegravity2 Před 6 lety +13

      You are NOT in the minority...I've been saying that for 20 years now...

    • @AlvosElRey
      @AlvosElRey Před 6 lety +23

      3 people say Quad was better. You guys are still the minority. Kilmer's role of Holliday stole every single scene he was in. Val Kilmer became Doc Holliday.

    • @Zartoo_3rd_Overlord_ofBlargon7
      @Zartoo_3rd_Overlord_ofBlargon7 Před 5 lety +14

      4 people. Kilmer's Holliday was nearly a parody.

    • @AlvosElRey
      @AlvosElRey Před 5 lety +5

      @@Zartoo_3rd_Overlord_ofBlargon7 It was still a good Holiday. Kilmer acted his ass off in trying to show some charisma. Which paid off. Sometimes entertainment is better than fact in the movie industry

  • @porridge57
    @porridge57 Před 3 lety +2

    I like Kevin Costner. And I like the movie Wyatt Earp. But, let’s face it, Tombstone is in a class by itself.

  • @almirria6753
    @almirria6753 Před 3 lety +3

    Tombstone was a masterpiece of film making, but Wyatt Earp is closer to the truth of what really happened.

  • @raylynch7412
    @raylynch7412 Před 4 lety +3

    That’s A Great Clip
    But I’m gonna go with Tombstone!

  • @kurtemeigh
    @kurtemeigh Před 7 lety +34

    Not even a contest. Camera work, actors, screen play...everything is so much better in Tombstone than Wyatt Earp.

  • @Lee-Darin
    @Lee-Darin Před 9 lety +8

    And the winner is Tombstone.

  • @Jrocke07
    @Jrocke07 Před 5 lety +4

    Tombstone is a Masterpiece

  • @markbours6173
    @markbours6173 Před 5 lety +3

    All do respect to both arts but I kindly say Tombstone was definitely a true Masterpiece in Cinema.

  • @donromaniwhywait
    @donromaniwhywait Před 7 lety +65

    Tombstone hands down. Val Kilmer deserved an Oscar for his role as Doc Holliday.

  • @MountainFisher
    @MountainFisher Před 2 lety +1

    All accounts said that Wyatt Earp never moved from the spot where he was standing.

  • @j.f.l.bousquet1998
    @j.f.l.bousquet1998 Před 4 lety +1

    All the moustaches in Tombstone are thicker, bigger and look better. So Tombstone it is.

  • @douglasmckenzie3324
    @douglasmckenzie3324 Před 5 lety +10

    Tombstone is definitely the most epic western of my era.

    • @EtherMagic
      @EtherMagic Před 4 lety

      Not as epic as Wyatt Earp.

    • @Sargasm1993
      @Sargasm1993 Před 4 lety

      @@EtherMagic Have you watched Tombstone lol

  • @Yerflua
    @Yerflua Před 3 lety +27

    "Mom, can we go and see Tombstone at the movies?"
    "No, we have Tombstone at home."
    At home: Wyatt Earp

  • @derricklogan2058
    @derricklogan2058 Před 3 lety +1

    One of my favorite Westerns! When I first saw this movie and saw Dana Delaney, I thought, there's a Woman 🤩 I would like to fall in love with! Once she smiled, dressed in all Black, WOW!!! SHE LOOKS DELICIOUS!!!

  • @two-moonz2953
    @two-moonz2953 Před 3 lety +1

    Tombstone. Kilmer oscar worthy performance. Kurt Russell is the man.

  • @stanmohr8601
    @stanmohr8601 Před 4 lety +16

    No competition. I wonder if on his deathbed, with his last breath Kevin Coster will call out "Tombstone".

  • @OfficialBos2
    @OfficialBos2 Před 11 lety +3

    1:50 This is an image that has been perminatly placed in my mind for ever, ever since I saw this bad ass scene!

  • @lunawolf7678
    @lunawolf7678 Před 5 lety +2

    Superbly done .Well done Doc Holiday.

  • @mingw2304
    @mingw2304 Před 3 lety +1

    I like how 'Wyatt Earp' tells his origin story, but 'Tombstone' is the better movie

  • @philipdiaz3010
    @philipdiaz3010 Před 7 lety +9

    Doc Holiday in Tombstone, gettin 3 shots off on a double barrel shotgun...ultimate bad ass.

  • @jasonleedham5678
    @jasonleedham5678 Před 4 lety +7

    If only Costner had got his gun from open range (great film btw) he coulda taken em all on his own!
    There are a few reasons Tombstone is better, but just one is enough- Val Kilmer

  • @jimboy819
    @jimboy819 Před 3 lety +1

    Wyatt Earp One of the greatest legends of the west. Never gets wounded once. Almost as if he was protected from harm from above.

  • @cobracorporal6738
    @cobracorporal6738 Před 2 lety +1

    I actually went to Tombstone, AZ on *December 6th, 7th and 8th 2021*