2023 Honda Odyssey Vs 2023 Toyota Sienna - Which Is BETTER?
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- When most people think of the modern-day minivan they think of the Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna. Sure, there are additional choices but these two seem to be at the top of many lists. In a side-by-side comparison, which is better? Find out for yourself in today’s Vehicle Visionary video!
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We went Odyssey. Drove smoother, actually seemed better put together, was available vs the 8-24 month wait we were quoted for the Sienna.
Honda all day because of the relatively powerful v6 engine and 10 speed trans, plus a spare tire.
Exactly!
I own an Odyssey and rented the Sienna. No comparison when you’re climbing hills and mountains. The Honda V6 no issues going 80 uphill fully loaded with family and gear. Sienna was loud and struggled to keep up with traffic going uphill not even fully loaded. Sienna fuel economy was better but lacked the get up. The Odyssey was a little more nimble.
The test drive I took in the Seinna was so disappointing. It sounded like a drone, and I'm especially not used to CVT. Add to that the loud wind noise and poor quality interior, the Oddessy was a no brainer. It especially delivers in terms of power.
I have the 21 Sienna Limited and I fully enjoy this van. It’s so comfortable with its heated and cooling seats, sunroof, and recliner seats in the back. The gas mileage is the best feature, I think. My drive to work is 50 miles round trip and with heavy traffic on the way home I run off the hybrid battery as traffic is usually crawling. It has been a game changer. I put gas in every other week and with the gas prices as such (I’m in Cali) it has helped A LOT!
I estimate gas savings based on 12k miles/yr ~ $540. My insurance is about $400 more per year for the Sienna. The Sienna's mileage is tremendous, but it's counterbalanced somewhat. The Odyssey has a timing belt, which means a $1300 surprise at 100k miles. I like the nice touches of the Sienna and the reliability, but the Honda drives alot better and is no slouch in reliability. The decision is pretty nuanced. We have an 09 Sienna (207k) and love it, but I can't even find a new Sienna to test drive. I'm not driving high miles or city traffic these days, so am leaning to the Honda. Both are so much better than the station wagon I grew up in, with wood paneling and a tail gunner's seat!
Sienna has a $10k markup everywhere you go. What efficiency are we talking about? Non removable middle row in a minivan? Unacceptable. The only big big plus of a sienna is that available 4wd
the awd system is the only reason why im considering the sienna. honda is so late to the game
It looks different on the specs and in the real life. For me is most important how van drives, how suspension work on road, how steering feels, how interior feels on the road. I had both vans and test drive different years. I feel like Honda much better build. Also, the 3rd seats folds on Odyssey way better than on Sienna. It’s just flat to the floor and so solid.
One consideration, at least around here, is that Odysseys are easily available and Siennas have long wait times and often a markup.
Yup, here in my neck of the woods there are endless Odyssey’s. No Siennas though. If you order from Toyota, the local dealer here will mark it up $5000+. Such a shame because I needed a van. I ended up getting a Mazda CX9 instead. I just couldn’t trust the Hondas problematic transmission.
Same in Ct
@@fatbart8551there’s nothing wrong with the 10 spd. The 9 spd zf was rough
It makes you wonder what does the Sienna have that the Honda doesn't
@nympho25 36 MPG city vs 19? Sienna also look more updated and sleek.
I really love your comparisons back to back. Not many reviewers are doing that.
I'm a photographer. I want the Odyssey for its versatility in space configuration. However, since it's near the end of 2023, I'm going to wait to see if I can get the 4WD for 2024.
We are going to be getting the 2024 Odyssey in a few weeks, and while we really wanted the improved gas mileage of the Sienna, the reality is they are super hard to obtain, and the cost would be higher overall by ~ $10,000 compared to the Odyssey. My wife has done a lot of research and the Odyssey ticked all the boxes, save for the gas mileage on the Sienna because of its hybrid engine. Great review sir!
Thank you!
Yes, I hear the new 2024 Odyssey is redesign. Keep an eye on it because there's a lot of new changes in there. I will wait for it.
The only one thing I don’t like about the Odyssey is that they still use a timing belt when all the other Hondas use timing chain. The minivans motor has remained unchanged from the previous generation. I loved mine but it required a bit more maintenance and cost.
Congrats. Sad to read the Sienna is still hard to get and you either have to wait months on end for it or get into a bidding war. Same as you, we where looking to get a Sienna almost exactly a year ago, but after paying a deposit and waiting 6 months with only a vague "an extra 6 to 12 months" as an ETA, we also went to the Odyssey, done a few road trips on it and it's surprisingly pleasant to drive, considering it's a massive car. Powertrain does not care if there's cargo or not and the car will pick up speed quickly (something I keep reading can be an issue with the Sienna), and we've had no problems needing to power out of traffic when required, and while around city we are near 16mpg, going at the speed limit on the highway, I have seen up to 28mpg, which isn't that massively far off the Sienna (again, this in highway, around town it can be massively far off lol).
Some build quality issues do show up on some examples, so just be sure to point out any squeaks/rattles to the dealership asap (we didn't see any) as well as checking that the power doors are doing their thing correctly.
NO V-6 in the SIENNA Anymore !!!
We just switched from a 2015 Odyssey to a 2023 AWD 25th anniversary Sienna. Both vans are nice, but the MPG on longer road trips for youth sports make the Sienna the clear winner. It's pulling 36+ MPG and have ottomans for the kids in the rear. I was worried about the smaller engine but hasn't been an issue at all or the CVT, we have our radio up all the time anyways so don't really hear it. The AWD is sweet to being in Chicago. However, if Honda made a hybrid with AWD I would have no issues with getting the Odyssey, but going from 22 MPG Highway to 36 has been amazing and 6K in 2.5 months with no issues thus far.
That’s why the Sienna are in such hot demand. The MPG makes a huge difference in a family’s budget.
Make sure you change that Cvt fluid every 35k miles
@@jml9550I believe abou 40k oddysey have been sold this year but less than 10 k sienna in the us
@@purevanilla4438 sure. Because Sienna can’t even produce enough and Toyota and Lexus lineups also demand a lot of hybrid capacities.
@@angelog1861i imagine if you stay up to maintenance this is a non issue. Be those people who buy new and never take it into service intervals and you will have worn and bad drivetrains
I got a 2023 Odyssey and I like it better because the Sienna went with the hybrid and doesn't have the v6 anymore.
I bought 2023 Honda odyssey a week ago and very love it. I'm confident at full load on Odyssey for my family and business.
What do you like most about it?
I got 2022 Odyssey, coz when we go on long road trips and its fully loaded. I needed the power.
Just bought a Honda Odyssey!! To me, the interior material is much better and the power is so sufficient! These two are the main reasons I prefer Odyssey more. Sienna does have better fuel efficiency but after 100 kmiles the extra cost we will spend on replacing the battery will be an extra pain point. Oh one key reason is ...... nowaday in north California the Toyota dealer asks for 10000 mark up price to order a sienna with 3 to 6 months lead time .........
Same. Honda’s V6 and also the state of the art industry best 10-speed transmission is super smooth, powerful and doesn’t get loud on freeway and acceleration! Also better build quality and design!
It's a Toyota....the hybrid battery will be fine way pass 100k miles...... the hybrid in the 2000s Toyota Prius is still running in the road
@@Aikynbreusov there will be energy degradation from any batteries. No such thing in ICE cars that can also do family road trips without having to stop by charging stations for hours each time/
@@georgiaguardian4696Toyota hybrids do not plug in to charge; the battery is charged by the gas engine and brakes.
@@Aikynbreusov Yeah, but for a Toyota or Honda 100k is just getting worn in! My Accord is at 200k already with not one major repair and I'm looking for similar reliability for my next minivan. I agree, Toyota makes great hybrid systems but the risks are still far higher than an aspirated V6 from Honda and you just know there's going to come a time when you have to fix something in the hybrid system and it's NOT covered by extended warranties (at least any I've seen available now). Also, that 10K markup is a LOT of gas money!
Great video, very helpful! Thanks for posting!
Very informative and organic way of looking at both cars. Analysis of both and comparison came through impartial. Excellent video appreciate this information for my car purchasing research.
What also worth mentioning is rear suspension. Sienna has a rear torsion (wishbone ) axle semi independent system. which can be a floaty motion sick ride for that 3rd seat. Honda totally independent front and back suspension which tracks road better.
That is a great point. Thank you for sharing!
@@VehicleVisionary Do you know why Toyota did this? Is it for packaging? I'm not a giant fan of torsion beam suspensions.
We had two Honda Odysseys (2003 and 2008). We enjoyed them a lot and went on many road trips. In 2022 we got our first Toyota Sienna, top of the line Platinum AWD model. It's great, especially the 35 MPG. This Platinum model also has ventilated front seats.
Odyssey has ventilated seats option available in the touring elite model.
@@ds1755how about 35 mpg? Can't even touch that with a 10 foot pole.
@@beexiong2995 I’ll take the 28 mpg aspirated from Honda all day. That hybrid electric setup in Toyota will cost a pretty Penny when it needs to be fixed, even the extended warranty from Toyota won’t cover that repair.
@@ds1755 This is my biggest concern now that you've pointed out it's not covered by extended warranty. Both minivans appear to be impressive but the trade-off for that increased MPG in the hybrid will likely come due when issues with the hybrid system start to appear. The aspirated Honda should keep going (especially considering it's a 10 speed transmission and not a CVT like the Toyota) a lot longer without expensive repairs than the Toyota. I like to keep vehicles until they die so long-term costs and reliability are huge for me. I've not made my final decision (as I've not yet road tested them) but considering these issues and the difficulty even getting a Sierra I'm leaning strongly towards the Honda. I also do mostly highway driving so the city gas mileage difference isn't a huge concern but with gas prices so high it's a consideration.
@@ds1755 Odysseys still have VCM issues.
We've had a Sienna and Odyssey. Even the older models, I prefer the Sienna. The new hybrid with 36 mpg, the Sienna will be our next van. We have Prius hybrids with CVT transmissions and no issues after 200,000 miles.
I like the looks of the Sienna but will get the Honda because Toyota took the v6 away.
Amen.....
Also..CVT...NO
@@jamesyang233it's not the same as Nissan CVT....
I own and love my Honda Ridgeline truck. I purchased that due to my own needs, but have access to both mini-vans. The Honda, IMO, is a much more comfortable vehicle to drive and seems to have a bit better alignment to daily needs. Thanks for the honest look at both!
Interesting. What's your favorite vehicle the Odyssey or Ridgeline?
@travisstrickland7270 I'm used to my Ridgeline and love the way it handles as well as how useful it is for hauling. The Odessy, on the other hand, has space for a load of people! It is extremely stable and a predictable driver. If I needed the people space, it would be minivan all day, but otherwise, sticking with my truck. 😀
Odyssey in almost every way - design, drivetrain, quietness level. Can’t stand the awkward design and loud drivetrain of Sienna!
I like the Honda, because of the v6 engine that’s naturally built. I’ve driven an 2010 Honda odyssey with over 276,000 miles. And I was very impressed with the handling.
i have me a 2019 honda odyssey elite and just loving it.
I own a 21’ XSE Sienna. My first Hybrid & Toyota. I love the Sienna. The 2nd-row long slide seats and the efficiency are unbeatable.
I wish I had the upgraded JBL stereo and look forward to Toyota upgrading the center screen someday, but other than that the XSE trim levels looks the best! I also really like the Ruby Red!
Yeah the JBL stereo would make the Sienna handle soooo much better..🤣
how is the overall ride quality?@@ds1755
how is the overall ride quality? FWD?
@@user-th9du8xf8t the ride quality is great! Minimal road noise inside the cabin.
I've read mix reviews about the XSE FWD. I've read that The ride can be kind of rough thanks to the 50 series tires on the 20-in rims.
Outlet over the hill and through the Dell trying to find someone that would rent me an XSC for a couple or 3 days.
I've even looked on Turo. No luck.
Me and wife have 2015 odyssey then we change for crv and we have abnother kid do we decide to go for the sienna , but after wait gor like 7 months and mark up price over 7000 (47000 for LE trim ) e check the honda odyssey With the price of 41000 on ex-l model we got the odyssey went on trip from boston to Orlando with minivan packed and the honda odyssey mpg was 30 miles per gallon no regrets
Thank you for sharing!
The right choice, the difference between the two cars is much higher than the difference in fuel consumption.
And more powerful in reality !
Even though the Odyssey is older, it looks much better. Plus I prefer the V6 power plant.
Agree!
Ehh
Agreed, but if you drive a lot and especially city or in a lot of traffic the gas savings in they hybrid will be significant.
We have a 2018 Honda Odyssey Touring (Canada Elite). I have an F-150 XLT 4x4 5.0L super cab, and for the life of me I can't think of a reason you would need an AWD or 4x4 mini van.
All your weight is right above your drive wheels. I've never been stuck in snow with any front wheel drive car I've owned growing up, but I certainly have been stuck in the built up 1988 Mustang 5.0L... does that mean it should have AWD?
You are never going to take your mini van off roading.. ever!
The whole AWD bs is just a marketing ploy. Mini vans see paved and gravel roads only, camp grounds, etc.Front wheel drive gets you through a winter no problem, you will never get stuck with proper tires. Ever!
I always hear people say that but they must not live in the mountains. When you’re driving up a steep mountain in the snow, you might need awd in addition to snow tires.
Although in my experience awd like you find on rav4, crv, sienna, etc are basically useless. You would need Subaru, pilot, ridgeline, or a 4x4.
But I agree snow tires makes a much bigger difference than awd. But when your driving straight up or down the side of a mountain in a snow storm, it’s nice to have a Subaru with snow tires.
Great comparo! We have a 2019 Odyssey EX-L and really like it. The ZF 9 speed transmission isn't my favorite, has some odd shifts sometimes, and I wonder how much better the Honda 10-sp would be. It's a great school/activity schlepper and road tripper. I like that the center console area is open, gives me a little more knee room. After 65k miles, Fuelly says lifetime mpg avg is 24.7. Not too shabby for a non-hybrid 4500 lb box-on-wheels but the Sienna might be our next. I love the idea of spending 50% less on gas but keeping the box-on-wheels shape.
On your Odyssey disconnect the battery terminal, let the van sit disconnected for 24 hours. Reconnect and you should see improvements in the shifts. Try doing this about every 3 months.
I have the 10 speed. It’s smooth as butter
CVT makes the Sienna a non-starter for me. The Honda V6 is brilliant.
I agree, sort of. I think any great mechanic will tell you the same... however, my '16 Accord has a CVT with 200k miles without a single problem or concern and I really like the way it drives. Given the choice though I think I'm leaning towards the 10 speed.
We going Odyssey route. Ultimately, ability to remove middle seats seal the deal for us. We need extra space for 2 Great Danes and 3 ppl :)
Just get a 7 passenger sienna then
Vehicle Visionary, you mentioned the acceleration is better in the Sienna. When in the Odyssey, were you in Eco mode or any other particular mode?
It is very interesting that many people are discussing the fuel consumption of the two cars. Yes, the Sienna is a bit lower, but it's not too much. But it costs more! The higher price more than makes up for the difference in fuel consumption. However, Odyssey's V6,10AT experience is far superior to that of the Sienna
36 vs 19, almost twice, and you called it not too much? 😅
@@timtian448 36? Sorry, I used 30. And what's the price difference between the next two cars? What is the waiting cost? thank you
With $3/gal gas, you are correct. The cost savings are a wash. What will gas prices be in 3 years? 5 years? 10 years? Are there other reasons you would want to save the 1,767 extra gallons you would use in the Honda by the time you hit 100k mi?
You also have to plan for the almost certain expenses servicing the hybrid system if you plan to keep the vehicle into high mileage while there's not reason to expect that with the Honda. If the mark-ups from Toyota come down it will change the calculus though of course.
@@timtian448 Yeah but that's combined and a bit unfair because I don't drive city miles very often so I'm looking at the numbers more like 28 for the Honda vs 36 for the Toyota and that's not nearly as compelling. The hybrid excels in city driving but I drive mostly on highway (though traffic is like city driving mileage of course).
I WAS A HONDA ODDYSEY FAN, BUT AFTER I DROVE A SIENNA, I WAS BLOWN AWAY
I’ll guess I’ll take the one I can actually buy today, the Odyssey
Bro you ain't lying. The sienna is a pain in the ass to locate and buy.
Honda Elite model has ventilated seat. Properly needs to do research and inform people on the options better.
My thoughts are that these vehicles are way too expensive.
They most definitely are. I'm hoping to wait on my purchase as long as I can so the market can settle back down though I doubt carmakers are going to drop prices any time soon now that they are used to the massive mark-ups.
Lol, period
It’s not 1979 anymore Mark. Get used to it.
@@sportsbettingeducation Ha! I will never get "used to it" I bought my first Toyota in 1978, it was a new Corolla. It cost less than $5000, with aftermarket AC installed. I can't see how working class people can buy new cars in this time. Our country as well as the world economy will most likely reset soon...
and trucks are not?
Only problem w odyssey sliding seats is when 2nd row seats are removed the mounting bracket/box for the sliding seats remain so the cargo floor is not flat. Irritating as I load items in the side door and have to deal with a 2 inch tall mounting box. No way to remove. This is a concern. Also, the lack of front seat storage is bad on the 3 lower trim levels..not sure about upper trims. Am having to purchase a storage bin when it easily could have been included on all model trims. (Like a 5$ part or less).
I have Sienna with 362k miles and still drive great I can go on any long drive comfortable and reliable.
The two cars are really good but what I can see is that both car is too low to the ground some countries are having bad roads in their town, special Africa countries like Nigeria. The motor producing company they should producing two types the lower car and the high car of a specific motor
Honda Odyssey is the roomiest minivan on the world with up to 158 cubic feet with both rear seats folded down . Even Kia Carnival can't beat it !
The only thing missing is an hybrid version and Odyssey with throw everything else down
My Mercedes sprinter definitely beats it!
@lordsknight4516 proper van vs mini van comparison? how is that even close lmfao
Odyssey is missing awd too
I recommend using a different camera for car reviews because the flickering on electronic devices is distracting. Great review though, thanks!
Yes, I love the rough road drive. Average car buyers don't have these road conditions to test drive. It's the only way to know if it's well built.
Odyssey because the extra mpg from the Sienna does not offset the OTD price and the high cost of batteries when you need them. Also, the easy removal of seats is extremely important, which the Sienna is lacking. Last, it looks if the Odyssey is so much better than the odd looking body lines of the Sienna.
Sienna hybrid is real quiet plus the better MPG. Our old V6 felt nice and powerful but the quiet cabin is a nice plus.
Awesome comparison. Waiting for the odyssey redesign. Thank you.
There is a redesign?When pls tell?
Went with odyssey because of the motor. Significantly more horsepower and torque. I have a trailer hitch on ours, so that should say something about my needs.
I own the 2019 Odyssey and 2015 Sienna. Odyssey wins handdown in every category except for the new Sienna Hybrid and AWD.
Toyota still doesn't know how to make a minivan for driver and family. Their cheaper interior material and that horrible 2nd-row middle seat is the worst design ever.
It's Hybrid and EV age and I still refuse to get a Sienna Hybrid. There are no options for leather, bench seats, and AWD. You can only go for the cheapest base model for that. This has been the case for decades. I don't know who designs Sienna, but that person need to be fired and sued.
The odyssey is the best
Vehiclevisonary what can you do a video on a 2023 Mercedes GLC 300
After my 2013 Pilot dies, I am leaning towards the Sienna. Control layout and it has AWD option. Plus it’s a hybrid.
The AWD sounds nice but only if you live somewhere it matters much. Where I live it's not a concern. The hybrid is great for the improved gas mileage but offset by the fact that you'll be paying so much more to get it with the Toyota mark-ups and the fact that hybrids are more complex and use batteries that will need servicing some day. I think for reliability reasons I'd lean towards the aspirated V6 with no batteries. I don't do a lot of city driving though so it much depends on your own needs.
I been researching used minivans. Each has certain cons. I bought a used 23 Odyssey Sport yesterday. Something about Pacifica reviews outweigh the folding seats I desired. Most of the used Pacifica's are former leased especially on the east coast. The salt spray and Florida's past flooding can age a vehicle. When you spent more than your first house cost for transportation it boggles the mind. Forty grand sitting on the curb.
That Sienna is the best looking mini van ever made. It’s such a shame they force the hybrid & CVT on you.
There, I fixed it for you. Sienna's are butt ugly front and back. Only good choice Toyota made was the hybrid drive train.
See, I think the Sienna is kind of ugly and I hate the front grill. It's a minivan though and you wont' care what it looks like after awhile. Well, at least I don't! I'm definitely leaning towards the 10 speed transmission in the Honda.
Live in Alaska. The local Honda or Toyota dealers have neither in stock. Like the AWD option of the Sienna, but hear better overall things about the Odyssey. Might be starting a business transporting people. Have two important questions.
1. How comfortable is the 3rd row for adults, sitting intermittently for 5 hours, and entrance/exit?
2. Communication is a huge plus. Is Honda CarTalk a nice clear way to speak to adults in the rear?
The fact that the vents in the Odyssey are on the sides (making it impossible to blow it on babies in rear-facing car seats), is one reason alone to go with Sienna
Does the air need to blow directly on the child? The 2nd and 3rd rows of the odyssey get plenty hot/cold. Also, how long will the child be in rear facing vs your useful need of the vehicle??
Toyota Sienna hands down! I took a long road trip to north Carolina, Savannah Georgia, and Florida, and i averaged 38.7 mpg with the van fully loaded with 5 people, try that with the Honda, and I bet your mpg wont be anywhere near that!
You would be surprised how well odyssey performs. It should hit near 30. My v6 accord fully loaded with 5 people and trunk full to the brim was giving 33mpg that was with going 75 mph average. I can get 35 mpg with the accord on slower speeds on the highway.
@@ks1ngh27if you can get 35 on the accord going slow. Trust me the sienna will get 50 going slow.
@@ks1ngh27on top of that it’s 36 at all times. Your odyssey will never get close to 30 city driving.
@@oldmanmike4995 sienna will get better mileage city driving. Odyssey can not compete in full mpg test. My point was on long trips odyssey should give very good mileage.
2023 Odyssey loaded with 8 people and trunk fully loaded with luggages from MN to OK, cruising at 80MPH comfortably and getting 27.8MPG. Tried that with my friend's Sienna and it was choking due to weight and engine sounded like a jet engine. Glad I bought the Odyssey.
I biggest concern with Honda is the faulty VCM or whatever. Having to muzzle and turn off the eco mode so your car doesn’t need new pistons in a couple of years
Outside looks for me go to the Honda Odyssey. Overall, the Odyssey wins for me. Both are nice, but the Honda is just a classy looking van.
The sienna is a bit too sharp for me the oddysey is more of a simple cute looking minivan so I’d also go with Honda
@@purevanilla4438 Guess we will have to fight to see who gets the Honda.
Same here I like the Odyssey more than the sienna
We just bought a 23 Sienna EXL today; trading in our 2013 Odyssey. Excited about the extra gas mileage. We were able to get a Sienna at this trim level without a wait and the markup wasn’t *too* bad ($2000).
? What dealership did you get yours at I’ve been looking and every I’ve seen around in fl are marked up way more then $2000 and even the used ones they are throwing fees over $4,000 with mileage in the 40 - 60 range and those are 2021 -2022 models ..
You meant Sienna XLE, not exl because exl is one of the Honda’s trim levels
@@johncontreras9451 we ended up ditching the XLE because we found an incoming XSE (being built this week) that wasn’t pre-sold yet. It took days of calls and contacting 26 dealers to find it- they occasionally get shipments with pre-sells where the customers cancel, so they’ll have an extra one. Keep on calling. You’ll find one eventually. This one we secured is coming out of Boardman, OH- about two hours from us.
@@jeffhuynh6186 correct! I’m coming from an Odyssey; so brain fart. Hehe. We actually ended up with an XSE on order, though, so that was cool!
@@johncontreras9451Brandon Toyota doesn't have any mark up.
Thank you for the video. Blessings to you.
Looking for a minivan to do a no build camper. I have a Toyota Previa but it's time to retire her. I had many good trips and camping with her. Anyways, this video just made my decision to go with the odyssey. Not being able to remove the seats would male it hard to be a camper van. Mindshift for me because I thought I wanted a Toyota Sienna
I own sienna for 17 years its rock solid but i’m not convinced with new sienna because no V6 engine and ceiling height has been reduced and not much rear window
Hi I just got my BBL and it cost me 7K. Which of these cars have the biggest and most comfortable seats and suspension? I need to be sure my cheeks fit and are cradled well! Thanks
Can I see 👀
HONDA ODYSSEY, ALL THE WAY BABY!!
I affraid the 4cyl on a minivan won't survive +200K mi. after 10 or 15 years.
My 2007 Odyssey is now 270K min. and still an excellent runner. I'm planning to switch to Sienna before it hit the 300K mi. I do like the Sienna just because of its MPG however, my co worker who already bought one, he's not recommend me to get the Sienna. He said the Sienna feels underpower when driving with 7 passenger on board.
4cyl on a van is a joke .
The O.G. Toyota minivans had a 4-cyl. An 80s 4-cyl at that. Under the driver's seat. They've done it before...
I think I prefer the V6 also but to be fair there is also an electric motor assisting the 4cyl.
im still driving my 2001 odyssey .
300k miles .
v6 just won't die.
all these 4cyl toy engines jut haven't proved themselves and never will compared to v6.
so...
I have a 2019 oddysey and I really dont like the new look of the sienna, or the old one. Plus We will not switch from the 2019 to the 2023 because we have the exl trim, and in the 2023 model the exl trim does not have the rear entertainment system.
Same!
Great video. I have owned 2 honda odysseys. A 2002 with 240k that my son drives at college and a 2014 that was recently totaled.
I loved both of them. Oddly, the 2002 was the better of the two in terms of visibility, driver seating position, interior room and interior build quality.
Insurance company provided a rental car for 30 days. I drove a toyota sienna hybrid xle. It was amazing.
But....the 2nd row seats on the sienna not being removable was a deal breaker for me. Trust me it is impactful if you want to use this vehicle to the max that it was intended for.
But....40 mpg was pretty sweet.
the sienna motor was quiet while cruizing but loud under load.
i will be buying another honda. 2nd row seats were a dealbreaker for me why they would not enable you to remove is beyond me
The Sienna is butt ugly from behind. The Battlestar Galactic Cylon look on the front of all Toyotas is getting old also.
I found a 09 odyssey ex-l w/40k miles. The only thing these newer vans have is more charging ports and entertainment systems. Sure I'd love the sienna hybrid for the mpg's, but damn 45-60k for a van is insane. I mean suburbans start at 62k.🙄
Well you're right that this is a historically poor time to buy a vehicle though that's true of both used and new. If you can get a deal on a used Odyssey it's a much smarter buy.
I have a 2004 odyssey and like it another so I would go for the odyssey.
Honda 2nd row comes out very nice if going to haul sheets of plywood moving ect
Also the Honda is less complicated. In terms of power train
Normal v6 no hybrid crap
I live in a snow state I can’t risk the hybrid system getting wet in the Deep snow
I have Honda Odyssey with 200000 miles all my kids learn how to drive on it and it’s still working I think it’s good minivan but I have Camry too it’s is so reliable both I think is good but mpg on Toyota will be better
Tbh i wish toyota still have the v6😢 i go Toyota but now for now honda have a great engine
I like both of them but not sold on the odyssey outside body style
I would love an AWD and hybrid Odyssey
It is completely idiotic that Honda keeps using a timing belt. In the hotter states like Texas they want you to pay over $1,000 every 60k miles to get those changed.
They are equals to my requirements. Issue will be July 4th incentives in Phoenix. If these vans are the same price then perheps Honda as I like removable seats alot. I do not care about AWD nor DVDs in the back. We are retired and take very long road trips often. Comfort and reliablity matter.
Thank you for sharing!
4 wheel drive and seat adjustment is an advantage for toyota S
But it has no middle seat for the second row for a family of 8
I would take either one but you couldn't give me a Pacifica
The Toyota sienna is the best I own a 2022 Toyota sienna and love it awesome gas mileage
I like the odyssey in every other way besides the mpg, the Sienna has better mpg than my ford focus
I like honda Odyssey the exterior design, interior design and the most comfortable, stabilize car plus I want reliable one. I don't like Toyota out of interior design is old fashion and I don't like tail gate light design(when I look at it, looks like crying(tears coming down) LOL. I still have 2010 Odyssey EXL trim with Navigation & entertainment systems, I like it and very comfortable & stabilize on long distance road trip. I will wait Odyssey redesign and if they come out with hybrid that will be perfect. I don't want honda change the size down to smaller, people like bigger space for road trip comfortability.
The massive black plastic grill on the Sienna makes me want to vomit. To each their own regarding styling preferences though.
Some Siennas have the entertainment board also.
Mpg vs rubber timing belt.....
Big problem that you can’t remove seats. What year did they start doing that?
If not the Odyssey, perhaps the Passport? I hope...
Oh man.... why minivan looks so good to me now 😂
I think Honda is better
Odyssey looks good. Sienna looks bulky and ugly.. +1 for Honda
I don’t like the High console in the Toyota. Too constrictive.
I don’t like the pushbutton transmission in the Honda. Finger tip pain develops with pushbuttons. Very annoying and destructive on knuckle joints.
Thank you for the comparison! ❤❤❤❤
If odessey make a hybrid version 36 mpg then i will buy it
An eCVt doesn't equal a CVT in any way possible they are completely different animals.
Just got a Sienna. We will see about how the EV battery holds up.
Sienna the best choice. All Sienna hybrid fuel efficiency and Toyota is market leader. Sienna holds more value.
Vtec!
Sienna 2nd row seats have air bags protecting the rear passengers, reason for non removable.
Some people might prefer this over removable seats.