FAMILY FIGHT! -- 2024 Toyota Sienna vs. 2024 Kia Carnival: Comparison
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Here's our comparison between the 2024 Toyota Sienna Platinum and 2024 Kia Carnival SX Prestige!
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0:00 Intro
0:48 Pricing Breakdown
1:56 Detailed Exterior Comparison
4:12 Interior Comparison
10:55 Test Drive & Impressions Comparison
14:19 Sound Level Reading (dB) Comparison
16:54 Comparison Conclusion
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What happened to Toyota manipulating quality control and deceiving consumers for 34 years?
Just purchased a carnival sx a month ago. One of the most comfortable rides ever along with it will turn on a dime and once you put ceramic tint on the windows you will be 10 degrees cooler giving you a great ride. Carnival has great pull while getting on the freeways and is excellent on gas. I was able also to fit three car seats in the third row side by side!
Thank you so much for this comment!! This is exactly what I need - 3 car seats in the third row.
@@amberamorr it’s a bit tricky the slimmer car seat models fit better but all in all after 15 mins I was able to secure them correctly. Trunk space can fit two small filing cabinets side by side it’s extremely large.
Love the Carnival for SUV looks and less money up front.
Great job guys!!
Need a rematch when the Carnival Hybrid comes out!
Appreciate the timely review. Our Carnival arrived in the US and now we await it's trip to the Midwest to arrive at the dealer. The price, warranty and availability made our decision easier.
this channel never disappoints when it comes to being early in consumer review and most importantly, in my opinion, the comaprison of cars that people want....thanks guys
We appreciate that!
We appreciate that!
Sienna is the king of Minivans. I have 2013 XLE with 185K miles. Apart from routine $100 jiffy lube (plus tire changes), just gas and go. The peace of mind factor is priceless!
We are living in 2024.
@@tomsmith8547 I know. I also own a 2024 vehicle - on my channel - but thanks for the reminder! 🙏🏽
@@tomsmith8547What does owning a reliable car with very little maintenance have anything to do with living in 2024? I own a 2004 Volvo XC90 and it gets me from point A to point B and back just fine. If you take care of your car, it will give you many miles to enjoy with very little issues.
@@tomsmith8547I live in 1999, too scared of Y2K
@@tomsmith8547idiot
Got my new XLE Sienna with the same color last week after 14 months on the waiting list.
It’s worth the waiting time.
Did you get stuck paying an extra premium, given Toyota's bizarre refusal to make enough vehicles?
I can't imagine putting myself on a waiting list for a minivan. lol
Came here to say this! Imagine waiting 14 months for a mini van 🤣
@@nodak81
waiting for a f Toyota no way... I won't even wait for a BMW.
My 2021 Sienna XLE 8pass is essentially similar I get 41mpg when driving locally and under 50mph. At 55mph we get 39mpg. When cruising long distance at 65mph we get 32-36mpg. At 70 and up 29-32mpg. 18gal tank. We have 215,000 miles trouble free
How the heck did you put that much mileage in just a couple of years?
215K?? R u driving uber on it??
Great review! I like your point system! I understand that 2024 Carnival has Plug in Hybrid, a big advantage for short distance daily drivers! Also, it is going to be available as Hybrid with turbo power train 2025!
Carnival is cooler and has better tech and interior quality. However, Sienna has AWD, significantly better gas mileage, and potentially depreciates less. I drove a Sienna AWD Platinum last week and it appeared to have the same wheels and they were not hub caps. Does anyone else know if the platinum awd trim has hub caps in some areas or countries?
Hard to make a true comparison without seeing how the rear seats fold down in both.
The reason that your sx prestige did not have the executive seats is because they are now doing the 8 seat set up standard and allowing customers to change it if they want it. More customers want 8 seats versus the reclining seats.
Sienna hands down. Value, reliability, looks, and all the above.
You gave a 0.5 of a point to the sienna because your model had the backseat entertainment? I thought you said both had it available?
The only use case i have for a minivan, and why we purchased a Sienna is because our child kicks, and in a sienna you can push the seat to a point where he cannot kick the front passenger or driver seat. This feature is not available in any other car sold in the US. Every Sienna review i have seen does not talk about this feature and use case.
Exactly. Small children are annoying in road trips. 😅
I can do that in my carnival
My $ goes to Carnival, $8K difference is not small, almost 20% less than the Sienna. Besides, a car this big, I like a V6 better than a 4 cylinder.
On y'all's website cabin noise list it would be helpful to include the trim level.
Almost every Kia Carnival SX Prestige model I've seen online and in person has rear seat entertainment (mounted tablets behind both front seats) for the 2nd row
You forgot to mention one of the most important difference, highway assistant. Lane centering is awesome in Hyundai and Kias
I would choose Toyota Sienna because it's legendary name and most importantly it's Toyota. reliability is number one
It's also more complex. Which means difficult to diagnose and expensive to repair. Toyota (and Honda) aren't nearly as reliable as they were even just ten years ago. I love my Prius but it's a nightmare to fix. I'd go with the Kia just because it's simple.
Okay toyota fanboy. The favorite you like to use is "reliability"
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Recent mass Toyota recall due to air bag issues
NEW YORK, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) reached a settlement potentially worth $150 million to resolve U.S. class-action litigation tied to recalls of about 3.36 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles whose defective fuel pumps could cause engines to stall.
A preliminary settlement was filed on Wednesday night in federal court in Brooklyn. It requires a judge's approval.
The settlement covers owners and lessees of dozens of Toyota and Lexus vehicle models manufactured in the 2013 to 2020 model years and equipped with Denso low-pressure fuel pumps.
I would choose carnival for that sweet v6 3.5
If you are old style and keep cars for 15 years.. then toyota. If it's only till 5 years, then choose the exciting one. Life is too short to drive boring vehicles
Check back in 10 years and let me know how the kia drives. We both know the sienna will be driving like new, is the kia as reliable?
kias are reliable tho depends what country you in
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My family van sienna is at 320 and still running great lol. So I agree with you bro.
I own the Carnival and it is an amazingly comfortable vehicle on long drives. On the road, I get 28-30 mpg. At that rate, the Sienna would take a long time to make up for the cost of fuel difference. Add the additional cost of the hybrid and unless you plan on driving it until the wheels turn square, the Kia is the best value proposition hands down.
Nice review and well done. I appreciate your points system and how you weighed things out. That said my money goes to Toyota due to AWD, reliability (brand reputation), and resale.
Thank you!
What about height adjustable front passenger seat?Very important for long trips.
Depends on the model you get with KIA. With the SX models in the US, the front passenger seat has power adjustments, including power forward and backward and leaning buttons on the inside of the seat back so the driver can adjust the seat.
Great comparison!
Thanks!
One thing I noticed on car reviews of Hyundai's or kias they always say it doesn't have wireless hookup. It does, they just don't know how to use it. I own 2 Hyundai's and 2 kias and I have wireless hookups on all my cars.
Not for android auto/Apple CarPlay on one of their 12.3” infotainment units you don’t.
I looked at both vehicles 2 years ago. I fell in love with the carnival but my mind went with the sienna. I'm in California with $4+ gas. The carnival would be a killer every time I'd have to gas up.
2” Lift with 33s …… that Carnival will sure blend in nicely with other SUVs….. way to go KIA!
If the Kia Carnival had AWD, it would win every time. @kia please make an AWD version. And please make hybrid versions. Not full Battery.
1st How have you been doing drew and mason. It been a minute since i was here
Good! Hope you are doing well
Yes I am doing good to
Sienna and Carnival have the same amount of adjustability on the drivers seat
3.5L + 8 speed gear + front wheal drive = reliability & durability since there is nothing to break there!
was debating this same 2 models, end up with Sienna for hybrid tech + long term reliability and maybe higher resell value
You got baited the carnival 3.5 v6 is more desirable for reliability people
If it's long term ownership then it is no contest warranty be damned. Sienna all the way.
I wish like the drivers seat that all seats in front and rear row were fully adjustable up and down and heated also i wish the second and first row could swivel out to allow passengers to sit facing out while entering and exiting and raise and lower for easier entrance and exit also hybid mode battery should last 10miles not 1mile in traffic. A better road noise insullation package also should be offered. A plug in hybrid should be offered for trips under 150miles.
I won't talk about the trouble I've had with Kia and 2 Hyundais (although the Kia made it to 165,000 miles before the motor self destructed).
Our 2021 Sienna XSE AWD has been great and gets a solid 35 non-winter non-freeway mpg.
My problem with Toyota right now is the 21 months we have waited (as of today) for our next SIENNA XSE AWD !
Have you seen the trouble many Toyota owners are having by Toyota manipulating and safety and performance data of millinos of their cars? Google it. Have you noticed the recent massive Toyota recalls? You forgot entire families died due to Toyota Sticky pedal while back? There is your Toyota reputation and reliability.
Do one on Camry and accord 24 and 25
CAR-nival all day
I think that you guys missed on the price evaluation grade evaluation.. Yes you graded price and factored in fuel efficiency but I think the differences are more significant. if you keep your cars for 10 years with 150k of use with 60% city and 40% highway with the average price of gas being $3.62 (something we can't count on), it would cost $26G for the Kia and 15G for the Sienna (rounded numbers). That is a chunk of change. I plan on doing 250K miles with a ratio of 80\20% so my savings would not be $10 grand but rather $12 G. Add Toyota reliability and a tried and tested hybrid technology over the last 2 decades and I know which van I'm looking at. Thanks for a sound analysis for the most part.
do you take any insurance pricing/costs into consideration? I heard that a lot of insurers are chaging high prices for the Kia or are flat out not even covering the Kia
We don't consider this because it very dependent on where you live and what your personal driving record is. We have owned two Hyundai's in the last few years and the insurance in KY was no higher than anything else in our case
Carnival's real world MPG is much better than the EPA estimate in my experience. My family rented a Carnival and got 30 MPG on the highway driving 1300 miles
The KIA will cost more for maintenance over time. Not factored in for long term cost of care
The cost difference will be made up with major repairs on the carnival out of warranty. Add resale to boot. 3.5 points for the price difference is dumb imo. If you buy new and drive into the ground the price difference is gone if you have to replace a transmission for instance on the carnival
Carnival. 👍👍
Go join the circus
I want a minivan back with a traditional column shifter option and where one can still climb into the rear seats to attend to the kids without having to get out of the van in the rain and snow. I want a mini-van with less clap trap features that I never wanted or asked for. I don't like when modern tastes in visual appeal take away from useful and efficient functionality that makes owning a mini-van so sensible and practical. I like a van to be a van and not a van trying to identify as a car. I guess I'm just a fan of older designs. Cars today are WAY over-priced and full of features you don't need to get the job done. Whatever happened to an affordable vehicle that every day middle class consumers can afford without breaking the bank.
I agree!!!
The carnival has 12 way while the sienna has 8 way? The controls are the same tho with 4 way lumbar
Prefer the newer facelifted Kia Carnival. looks like the facelift is going to also introduce a hybrid in the US too. that would be a much better comparison with the sienna.
We look forward to doing it again next year
KIA looks Mature, Elegant and even stout. The Toyota looks adolescent and has has too many Sharp points which makes it way too aggressive for a Family Minivan. Looking forward to the Hybrid KIA Carnival.
Carnival for sure!
I absolutely love it
I still go with reliability and resale value. Toyota for me
why nobody tell if the second row seats are removable?? I am working on minivan as a contractor I have caravan now and we are removing the seats for work so its is important for as to know about this the options in minivans
They both have 3rd row stow and go, Kia I believe the middle seats can be removed easily, sienna is a pain and requires turning off air bag sensors last I knew. 😅 I am wanting to KNOW for certain the same question.
Excellent comparison, I definitely prefer the Carnival!
I wish the toyota sienna would not got rid of the duel sunroof but still love my 2012 toyota sienna limited awd.
I love the Kia Carnival
We went from sienna to kia, reason being we live at 6000ft and travel thousands of feet up and down and losing 60hp in the sienna wasn't something we wanted. Going 0 to 60 is great but traveling from Phoenix to Flagstaff is a better test and the sienna suffers.
Can't wait for the Carnival Hybrid to come to the states. If they end up being able to offer it with AWD as well, it's game over for the competitors.
Great review.
Thank you, as always!
Cool review. I honestly would have given the Toyota reliability at least 3 points since stats say the Kia will not be worth the price after 5yrs where you either have to get a new one or pay to up keep. Plus the hybrid has savings should have offset the price of the Kia vs Sienna. Eventually the Sienna would be cheaper on just these 2 things alone. I don't think people who buy minis will be wanting a new one every 5 years.
Let's see which one is the best deal in 10 years. Or 5. or 2...
Our 2022 Sienna gets us 35mpg City/Hwy.. Its resale value cant be beat. Nuff said.
YEAH BUT YOU ARE PAYING 5,000 MORE UPFRONT! LOL
Sienna looks like a cheaper option in the long run. By 100K miles it will be already $8K more for gas expenses (in current prices) in the case of Carnival. Plus 2 years of free maintenance, reliability, and higher resale value for Sienna.
Seems like Karnival raised rates as I am not seeing any below $45,000 in the NE
Toyota depreciates slower and all Toyota dealerships near me offer lifetime powertrain warranties for free on new cars.
I would pick the Kia carnival! It’s a swagger wagon! 😂
Nice
I note the driver's arm rest, on the Toyota, is very useful. You can rest your arm on the armrest while driving. Not possible with the Kia.
Current gen Sienna does not have removable 2nd row seats -- losing much flexibility to carry bulky items. Get a Honda van instead
4:30 LOL! That hiccup/burp
Sienna has rattling noises at the front passenger side , drone noises when you drive it 😂
Carnival 😊😊
Suggest to include the resale value!
Well, Carnival is new, but here we're I live, used Sedona and Odyssey sells for the same price tag. So no difference.
Would totally get the carnival if it had AWD!
My favorite Toyota Sienna
Why did you give the Toyota a point for having a Tv when you said they both have it, but just the one you have doesn't??
GOT MY SIENNA LIMITED 2023 AND JUST GOT TO 5,000 MILES, AND IT STILL SMELLS LIKE NEW AND RUNS SMOOTH, ITS A LUXURY PLANE IN THE ROAD
Sadly it's too weak power wise for that kind of money. Should be V6 or at the very least the same new engine that's in the Grand Highlander Max trim.
Sienna because it is hybrid, more reliabe car and better resail value
google recent toyota lying about their car data, there is your toyota reputation
@@andresmattos7541 Toyota it is not my..
I really love the carnaval kia all the specs
The $5000 difference is huge and a deal breaker for me
The part you didn't account for is that the Carnival you test drove came from Cartown Kia which adds an $8,000 dollar "location adjustment" to their vehicles. When I bought my 2022 Carnival Cartown Kia was $140 MORE per month than Don Franklin Somerset Kia was for an IDENTICAL van...I mean literally identical same trim, options and color. The experts tell you to shop around to the best deals and in this case it saved me thousands.
We definitely recommend shopping around because markups can vary wildly depending on location, although they aren't as common now that inventory has improved
Hyundai and kia have engine problems at certain points, a lot more maintenance required on kia, then Sienna. Engine and electrical issues on kia and hyundai are very common
I like that Sienna, damn
The Carnival's lack of thoughtful interior storage REALLY bothers me. No storage space underneath the center stack. Shallow door storage that won't even take a water bottle. No sunglass holder.
I love so much about the Carnival, but Kia's quest to make it more like an SUV made it less practical.
You know....my wife complained about the same thing. But here's what I told her. All those cubbies and storage? They will be filled with toys, food, and junk. Guaranteed. I'd rather have valuable storage in Cubic feet rather than small compartment.
@@vuville514 yeah, but in the Carnival that mostly means just the back. Most moms appreciate a place to chuck their baby bags or purses, and the Carnival lacks one that doesn't get in the way of another passenger.
Oh, and the center console storage is oddly small. No idea what they were thinking there.
To be clear, I really, really like the Carnival (and also like that its eighth seat comes out with ease and doesn't leave behind a base as with the Sienna), but Kia made some dumb choices that prevent it from being the best in its class.
For context, I have a Pacifica. Plenty I love. Some things I don't.
@@LoveStallionit’s really not that serious. It’s like a small apartment in these minivans. There’s space everywhere
I would buy the Carnival hands down, but the name... So many other options and they go with "Carnival"??
Just my two cents. Changes nothing about how nice it is and would drive it regardless.
13 mpg difference for the sienna should definitely give it more than one point. That is an extreme difference in gas mileage and fuel savings over time especially with today's fuel prices. Maybe you should have awarded a half point per extra mile per gallon to be fair.
How many points does the Sienna get for ease of maintenance, longevity, and reliability? Features aren’t the only reasons to buy a vehicle.
Oh, the age-old debate: Toyota vs Kia! Both car brands have their own unique qualities and offerings. Toyota is known for its reliability, fuel efficiency, and resale value. On the other hand, Kia has been making strides with stylish designs, advanced technology, and competitive pricing. Ultimately, it comes down to personal preference and what you prioritize in a car. Do you have any specific models in mind? Let's dive deeper into the comparison! 🚗💨
Well said.
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Recent mass Toyota recall due to air bag issues
NEW YORK, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) reached a settlement potentially worth $150 million to resolve U.S. class-action litigation tied to recalls of about 3.36 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles whose defective fuel pumps could cause engines to stall.
A preliminary settlement was filed on Wednesday night in federal court in Brooklyn. It requires a judge's approval.
The settlement covers owners and lessees of dozens of Toyota and Lexus vehicle models manufactured in the 2013 to 2020 model years and equipped with Denso low-pressure fuel pumps.
Something that wasn't mentioned was that Carnival has matched or beat the sienna in reliability according to jd power and associates since it was released in 2022. Not to mention better warranty on the KIA.
Warranty is great peace of mind. Not sure how you can say a vehicle is reliable in just a two year span.
@@cg1885 that is very true. You can go on jd power and associates and see the way that they do their rating. But you are right. This is reason i will be waiting a little while to see how they end up being. But so far in 2 years they've been reliable compared to Toyota Honda and Pacifica.
When the 2025 Carnival comes out you’ll have to review the hybrid model against the hybrid Sienna
Definitely!
Kia carnival is best
for long term and durability and car value mpg Sienna is the winner
Kia is looking good, and much lower cost will negate any fuel saving by Sienna. But how reliable are Kia carnivals? Will they last 15 years, 350,000 km like Siennas regularly do?
IF YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR CAR IT WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU THIS IS NOT 1980 ANY MORE, HAVE YOU SEEN THE RECENT MASSIVE TOYOTA RECALLS?
@@andresmattos7541Recalls for little things is not a problem. It’s that car lasting 200k km and dying on you, outside warranty, no recalls paid for. Do you own a Kia and what’s the mileage?
Who drives a car for 350k?? 200k is when you should be looking for a new car. 200k is still driving for 15+ years. That’s a long time.
Let's see, a vehicle that has a track record for 300,000 plus or a company that has a history of their engines exploding after 50,000. I guess you get what you pay for.
i prefer the Toyota for the fuel economy and the resale value and reliability.
Definitely I chose sienna
It's easy only carnival sold in my country 😅
Let's see a Carnival go over 250,000 miles I sincerely doubt it. We have zero problems with the Sienna. Most Kias are not on the road or with major problems over 200,000 miles. Minimal maintenance on the Sienna
Why drive over 200k miles?? That’s about driving a car 16+ years. It’s time to buy a new car.
@jeffmoen8563 my 2014 Toyota Avalon Hybrid XLE Touring looks and drives Excellent with over 312,000 miles my 2021 Toyota Sienna XLE HYBRID 8PASSENGER MINIVAN has over 209,000 miles and still gets 36mpg! No major repairs just spark plus at 190,000 miles Hybrid flush and transmission oil at 100,000 miles and 190,000 miles. Oil change with Mobil 1 extended performance 0-16 oil and Mobil 1 Synthetic filter every month, windshield wipers every 50days with cabin filter and air filter. New tires every 9-10months as needed Pirelli AS 3. Mostly highway use 60-70 mph. Let's see maintenance records on a Kia if it lasts that well. I've put over 2,000,000 miles on 2 1991 Toyota Camry LEs, 1993 Toyota Previa LE, 2014 Toyota Avalon Hybrid XLE Touring, 2016 Toyota Avalon Hybrid Limited, 2018 Toyota Hybrid XLE Limited and 2021 Toyota Sienna XLE Hybrid NEVER an Engine nor Transmission failure, front end, rear end, suspension, exhaust problem, rust problem. Hardly no alignment problems. They are worth every dime they cost. I drive every day for business about 400-500 miles and sometimes more. Dependability and low maintenance costs are key not initial cost of vehicle also vehicle safety 5stars very important as well as fuel economy. On hybrids the brakes last me about 240,000 miles and Hybrid flush always performed at 100,000 miles 180,000 miles 240,000 miles, 300,000 miles, 360,000 miles, 420,000 miles, and 480,000 miles if we still have the car! If Toyota is well maintained engine and transmission should last at least 420,000 miles if not abused or wrecked. Kia lasts less than half that with major engine and Transmission problems at much higher intervals. At half the cost you get what you pay for at maintenance down time 4 times. I can't afford down time. Sure if you drive 12,000 miles per year a Kia can last 10-12 years but you get what you pay for. I've never had a Toyota have major problems and only changed the radiator on 2014 Avalon recently due to very small radiator leak at 300,000 miles and still we get 38-44mpg with new Hybrid battery at 285,000 miles. Engine and Transmission perform like new. We had this car since day one!
You miss out on the diesel Carnival .. by far the most popular version here in Australia
All cars are almost levelling up.The design will decide everything. The Kia Carnival looks way ahead.
Reliability in 5 and 10 years?