Madonna: What Happens When You Don’t Age “Gracefully”

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  • čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
  • Madonna has received criticism for her unwavering sexuality as she ages, ageism or desperation? likely both, but it’s the least surprising thing about Madonna’s career at this point. She famously said “don’t preach!” , and maybe it’s time we listen, given her continued success and longevity. Could Madonna be embracing the new normal?
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Komentáře • 647

  • @hellobye7697
    @hellobye7697 Před 24 dny +957

    Well when you’re bullied for your looks and being called too “old” from the 80s until now, ofcourse you’re going to change ur face.

    • @TakabIghe
      @TakabIghe Před 24 dny +56

      As if Madonna hasn’t bullied tons of people in the industry too 😂

    • @t_ylr
      @t_ylr Před 24 dny +38

      Can I be honest I've seen unedited videos from her concerts and she looks fine imo. She looked kinda crazy right after her last face lift, but I feel like we're making a big deal out of how bad her plastic surgery is. Idk she's Madonna she's not Jill from accounting. Let her have a face lift if she wants 😂

    • @LemManga
      @LemManga Před 24 dny +36

      @@t_ylr shes allowed to get a face lift and we're allowed to say it looks bad

    • @hellobye7697
      @hellobye7697 Před 24 dny +2

      @@TakabIghe Name the people she has bullied

    • @hellobye7697
      @hellobye7697 Před 24 dny +4

      @@t_ylr She looks incredibyl lately due to weight loss and filler dissolving, but ofcourse all people do is hate

  • @asgo7320
    @asgo7320 Před 23 dny +1414

    Male rock stars being half naked on stage, singing about sex and sleeping around has always been ok. But if a woman does it?

    • @samueltv9428
      @samueltv9428 Před 23 dny

      Yes please we need to let women show their boobs.

    • @BroJo676
      @BroJo676 Před 23 dny +81

      Male rockstars singing songs from their youths as nostalgia acts.
      Madonna keeps releasing new music and her new attempts at making music sound too juvenile, destroying her extensive and beautiful legacy from the 1980s to 1990s.

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent Před 23 dny +39

      Half naked male rock stars have only been ok since the late 1960s, and only in certain countries, like those in Europe or the Americas. Asian countries are generally much less accepting of this sort of thing.

    • @sarizonana
      @sarizonana Před 23 dny +57

      Nope it looks equally ridiculous.

    • @Dojafish
      @Dojafish Před 23 dny

      Where are this male artist😭?
      Also I think most are usually on par with woman signing about sex while half naked. Like have you seen the pop girlies of the last 2 decades?

  • @Toby2017
    @Toby2017 Před 24 dny +544

    Damn,she really fought for a lot of good causes.

    • @dieterdelange9488
      @dieterdelange9488 Před 23 dny +60

      Exactly. It's so easy for artists these days to jump unto the LGBT+ pandering train, but for Madonna to do so in the late 80s/90s was career suicide. It was the height of the AIDS crisis, when left and right politicians and so many others turned their backs on the gay community (including celebs who support them now), and when AIDS was still labelled "God's punishment", "gay cancer", etc.
      Madonna openly spoke out on behalf of gay people, advocating for safe sex and breaking down the myths of AIDS (e.g. people still thought you could get it from using the same bathroom, etc.) She often went to Mexico to get medication for AIDS patients. Above all, she said that AIDS patients should be treated with compassion, regardless of how they got infected.
      She didn't pander to the gays, she supported them. It's sad how so many in the queer community today make fun of her and diss her.

    • @MashaRistova
      @MashaRistova Před 23 dny +42

      She stood up for the gays when it wasn’t the cool thing to do. She’s brave and truly dgaf. In the clips in this video you can see she had men dressed in drag on her stages decades ago. Also POC, men and women. She made out with black men in her videos. I repeat, it was NOT accepted or the cool thing back then. That’s why she’s an icon

    • @Victorcolongarcia
      @Victorcolongarcia Před 23 dny

      @@dieterdelange9488👏👏👏

    • @MissGayleEnlightens
      @MissGayleEnlightens Před 11 dny +3

      She stole children. 🙄

    • @Victorcolongarcia
      @Victorcolongarcia Před 11 dny +3

      @@MissGayleEnlightens you call adoption stealing? Wtf?

  • @robertprice4826
    @robertprice4826 Před 23 dny +181

    To be fair even if Madonna aged the way Pamela Anderson is, she would still get criticsized, Pamela an aging sex symbol gets attacked for allowing herself to age, so no either way women can't win

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Před 23 dny +28

      this - they don't actually want you to age gracefully, that's just a talking point backed up by nothing because the only actual point is the complain about the thing you find uncomfortable.

    • @patchchrist
      @patchchrist Před 18 dny +6

      💯. Ever see IG photos of her Sister Melanie being compared to her? If Madonna allowed herself to age like her Sister, she would get dragged & age-shamed even worse.

  • @nachonic100
    @nachonic100 Před 24 dny +755

    Sorry but she killed in Rio, she's a legend and should be left her be whatever she wants

  • @SavvyMuhon
    @SavvyMuhon Před 24 dny +620

    Body dysmorphia is a demon, I can’t imagine it whilst also being a sex symbol. I am glad that public opinion in terms of body image is slowly shifting, but it’s sad that the ripples are still moving. Just let people age. It happens to literally everyone.

    • @cosmefulanitoo2625
      @cosmefulanitoo2625 Před 23 dny +9

      Just because a woman decides to do something about her OWN BODY doesn't make her a "demon." A woman who shows her gray hair is just as IMPORTANT as one who dyes her hair. A woman who shows her wrinkles is just as VALUABLE as one who has a cosmetic procedure. And this is just on the physical issue, don't get me started on sexual and reproductive freedom. Women... ALL HUMANS can age however they want. Through your own values ​​and conditions but above all ASPIRATIONS.

    • @SavvyMuhon
      @SavvyMuhon Před 23 dny +13

      @@cosmefulanitoo2625
      Clearly I struck a nerve.

    • @cosmefulanitoo2625
      @cosmefulanitoo2625 Před 23 dny +2

      Of course YOU DID Felicia. 👽 You actually DID THAT.

    • @milkflavored
      @milkflavored Před 23 dny +3

      I think watching the Met Gala last night weirdly hammered this home for me. Not only the body dysmorphia on display but how there were also so many different types of bodies on the carpet, and I found them beautiful and inspiring … I’m really sitting with my thoughts

    • @I_love_You_And_Me_1996
      @I_love_You_And_Me_1996 Před 23 dny

      She- she didn't call her demon, she said the illness "body dysmorphia" is ​@@cosmefulanitoo2625

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 Před 24 dny +398

    I mean she’s a true legend, she made like a prayer, ray of light. I think that’s enough.

    • @raheemabdoul8480
      @raheemabdoul8480 Před 19 dny

      She fell of after the 80s

    • @rhiannonyoung8962
      @rhiannonyoung8962 Před 18 dny +4

      @@raheemabdoul8480 That's Not What Her Successful Sales/Sold Out World Tours Prove.

    • @erossinema8797
      @erossinema8797 Před 10 dny

      @@rhiannonyoung8962 Madonna is so huge she doesn't need to have hit records anymore. She had hit records for 25 years ---That's no small feat.

    • @irishspagetti6565
      @irishspagetti6565 Před 2 dny

      Ray of light sucks, everything she did after that is just bad

  • @Peterrdee
    @Peterrdee Před 24 dny +368

    When I see Madonna I don’t see age, I don’t care what she does with her photos or her face, her music is absolutely amazing no one has that and no one will have the talent or longevity of Madonna

    • @santiago324
      @santiago324 Před 23 dny +5

      This THIS!!!

    • @sullysullivan1187
      @sullysullivan1187 Před 23 dny +14

      Thank you! We should happy we still have her around. She is one of the greats. Honestly all the hate is because she is a woman. Let’s be real

    • @LD-tn6ff
      @LD-tn6ff Před 23 dny +2

      Madonna was hardly famous on the basis of her music alone. She amassed notoriety from CONSTANT public scandal, spectacle, feuds, controversy, sexuality, etc. The masses were more interested in seeing what she would do next rather than hearing what she would do next. Not saying these are even necessarily bad, but these are almost more responsible for making her a cultural icon/influence rather than her overall discography. This also perfectly explains why she hasn't released any noteworthy or popular music that younger generations are willing to care about. Expressing open sexuality isn't provocative anymore and shes continuing the attempt to use "controversy" as a crutch. When this fails, she then appears as somewhat of a spectacle to new or young audiences. Theres a reason why counterparts within the same generation (Kylie Minogue for example) who never relied as heavily on controversy, is able to maintain a career with new hit music that transcends generational divide and without the subsequent criticism.

    • @dontrelate465
      @dontrelate465 Před 23 dny +6

      ​@@LD-tn6ffBaby no one is checking for Kylie Minogue.

    • @dudnika-anti
      @dudnika-anti Před 7 dny +1

      @@LD-tn6ff saying this as a fadga stan is crazy 💀the call is coming from inside the house. madonna birthed that talentless hag...

  • @masteroftheelements276
    @masteroftheelements276 Před 24 dny +1018

    Madonna just made history the other day in having the biggest audience for a concert tour in history something the current girls who should actually be surpassing Madonna haven't accomplished.

    • @rienzib
      @rienzib Před 24 dny +273

      You forgot to mention the show was FREE to the public.

    • @maddy8124
      @maddy8124 Před 23 dny +101

      Uhh- the concert was free😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
      And there are ANY current and their are indeed other artists that are currently surpassing Madonna in the auditorium 😭 I’m to weak-

    • @nikibronson133
      @nikibronson133 Před 23 dny +38

      And yet she gets no media coverage yet she’s consistently still amazing and even breaking records because the previous person to hold that record funny enough was Tina Turner another older woman during her peak

    • @courtneythompson6179
      @courtneythompson6179 Před 23 dny +30

      I’m sure Swift could if she did that same

    • @rienzib
      @rienzib Před 23 dny +37

      @@courtneythompson6179 Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Shakira, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Karol G…

  • @evanliu1939
    @evanliu1939 Před 23 dny +100

    To loosely quote from Rupaul’s Drag Race S12 EP7 Madonna Rusical:” The most controversial thing Madonna has done is to stick around.”
    Even though I personally don’t care about her that much, I still respect her legacy and her everything. No matter what she will become, I still want her to stick around and stay true to herself unapologetically.

    • @nouriciolz
      @nouriciolz Před 22 dny +8

      Drag Race quoted her from her speech of woman of the year in 2016. Amazing episode!!!

    • @scottwooledge6387
      @scottwooledge6387 Před 4 dny +1

      She could do like so many artists do, have a few hit records then tour off of playing the oldies for life. But she is driven. Driven to be relevant, driven to be creative, driven to prove she has earned her place as a legend. Nothing but respect for sticking around. That’s such a funny and true assessment.

    • @LexaTerrestrialx
      @LexaTerrestrialx Před 2 dny

      she gave hope to sm women and inspired the world.I commented on a photo on IG & said "If I have the audacity to stay around on the planet best believe I'm gonna wear what I want" they were praising & showing older woman who walked the red carpet all glam. It got 1,000 likes. The most controversial thing she's done is yes live her life.

  • @IsabEla-tf5lt
    @IsabEla-tf5lt Před 23 dny +76

    Pink just said "We shouldn't be talking about madonna face we should be talking about the badass shit that women did for the rest of us"

  • @ElectroPrince3000
    @ElectroPrince3000 Před 23 dny +245

    “Aging gracefully” is just another dated, misogynistic phrase aimed at controlling women and shaming the ones who have the nerve to do what they want with their lives & not follow the pack. You will NEVER hear anyone using that saying for a man.
    Madonna has always done whatever the fuck she wanted with her life and always embraced self-care, edgy fashion & makeovers. Why should she change who she is just because total strangers find it abnormal or inappropriate? Suddenly, feminism is out the window.
    I also find it hilarious how no one bats an eye when pop stars in their 20s & 30s are filled with botox & fillers but when a 65 year old woman does it, it’s pathetic & desperate. Let’s not act like pop girlies like Ariana, Katy, Gaga or Beyoncé have never had any cosmetic work or beauty procedures. Madonna has just always been an easy target for bullying since the very beginning, because no matter how much people tried to humiliate and bring her down, she never budged and that still pisses them off. And that’s why the media keeps trying to push a very one-dimensional side of her. WAKE TF UP.

    • @natashamacedo6848
      @natashamacedo6848 Před 23 dny +22

      Exactly! People would not care if her procedures looked "natural". Madonna, as an artist, has never cared about what people deem graceful. Her career has always been transgressive.

    • @Blazer9970
      @Blazer9970 Před 23 dny +31

      Why are u lying. Just look at Michael Jackson. He's a man and he was bullied all his life for his cosmetic procedures even when the public found out that he got them due to the relentless bullying and insecurities he got from his father they still crucified him, calling him wacko jacko etc. The point is whether or not its a man or a woman, whether its the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s or 2020s they still get mocked by the public especially if the transformation is pretty drastic.

    • @juandiegotorres9632
      @juandiegotorres9632 Před 23 dny

      Michael Jackson was bullied for not aging gracefully...

    • @txwtw
      @txwtw Před 23 dny +4

      @@Blazer9970 I agree.

    • @CYBER_N0T
      @CYBER_N0T Před 22 dny +6

      ​@@Blazer9970That doesn't fit in with their narrative

  • @jorgeherrera-uo2pr
    @jorgeherrera-uo2pr Před 24 dny +204

    Your Favorite Artist’s Favorite artist. Let that be clear.

  • @Lwhale.3797
    @Lwhale.3797 Před 23 dny +52

    Madonna bringing ballroom culture to the masses in a big way with ‘Vogue’ (and priming the pump for Drag Race in the 2010’s) will forever be iconic. Love her 🔥🔥🔥

  • @fan7708
    @fan7708 Před 23 dny +189

    One day we gonna have this conversation about Taylor swift and her weird obsession with writing from a perspective of a high schooler OOP

    • @somberwinds
      @somberwinds Před 21 dnem +12

      That’s just marketing. Her whole brand is being a relatable singer/songwriter and making music for young women to feel identified with, writing music specifically catered to the most profitable and loyal audience an artist can have (teenage/young women/fangirls) is precisely the reason why Taylor is the biggest star in the world right now. Her marketing strategy is flawless and by far the smartest and most effective out of any artist in music history.

    • @pizzadogma
      @pizzadogma Před 19 dny +8

      There's the saying of, "the age you become famous, is the age you mentally stay at forever."

    • @ozyvillanueva9277
      @ozyvillanueva9277 Před 12 dny +6

      @@somberwindssweetheart no matter what you say ms. Emissions billionaire swift is not relatable. Call it marketing or whatever but Taylor is what Madonna used to be so we’ll be talking the same about Taylor in 20 years.

  • @Waterlemoan
    @Waterlemoan Před 23 dny +52

    I just want to say that I truly appreciate what you do. This is one of many times I realized I need to get a grip of my focus and deal with my shit. I honestly thought this video was about surgeries and had my thoughts - but to be reminded of what she's done and how the world also affect me was a humbling experience. To even think that I silently judge her is just... I am so ashamed. And as I am ashamed I am also scared of wrinkles, of looking "tired" and lose my youth. What a world we live in.

    • @MissAngie25
      @MissAngie25 Před 23 dny +8

      All women deal with this fear, we will all be expected to tone down our looks and sexuality as we get older or we’ll feel the pressure to stay looking young, these are choppy waters we’ll have to navigate so imagine being Madonna the blueprint of female pop music and sexual expression in the mainstream, always thought as sexy, having to deal with that kind of criticism from the general public.
      I wouldn’t want it so I think people need to be a little bit kind and understanding.

  • @commonomics
    @commonomics Před 24 dny +194

    I honestly think that she looks fire for being in her 60s

    • @samanthas6073
      @samanthas6073 Před 24 dny +23

      You need your eyes checked.

    • @commonomics
      @commonomics Před 24 dny +1

      @@samanthas6073 either she becomes saggy and ignored by society or she gets plastic surgery and looks like what she does. It’s not awful, she just doesn’t look like herself. Cher is a good example of great plastic surgery, Kim k is another great example.

    • @adontecook810
      @adontecook810 Před 23 dny +55

      @@samanthas6073you need to turn 65 and see how you look by then

    • @bigbootyboy420
      @bigbootyboy420 Před 23 dny

      @@adontecook810it’s not about her looking old. Ppl are criticizing her uncanny valley creepy plastic surgery botched face

    • @MsCarringtonsYoutube
      @MsCarringtonsYoutube Před 23 dny +3

      A Lie

  • @eml3077
    @eml3077 Před 23 dny +173

    There would be no Britney, no Beyonce, no Taylor
    Without Madonna 😊

    • @cbhvhgj
      @cbhvhgj Před 23 dny +5

      LOL

    • @dancer4066
      @dancer4066 Před 23 dny +28

      Umm beyonce yes don’t never try to credit a white woman for Beyoncé

    • @daniellarkins3849
      @daniellarkins3849 Před 23 dny +28

      ​@@dancer4066Yes. I love Madonna but their pushing it a little with their comment. While Madonna may have had some influence on Bey and the others, she isn't their sole influence.

    • @cosmefulanitoo2625
      @cosmefulanitoo2625 Před 23 dny +26

      BEYONCÉ: "... Queen Mother Madonna I Love Ya... "
      BEYONCÉ FANS: "... Madonna is white... "

    • @trapliyah1709
      @trapliyah1709 Před 23 dny +9

      lmao madonna wasn’t the end all be all for beyoncé

  • @lulu-im9ps
    @lulu-im9ps Před 23 dny +41

    The concert in Rio was insane, it was broadcast live on TV, everyone stopped to watch her perform

  • @yassercastillo2607
    @yassercastillo2607 Před 23 dny +103

    She is making it easier for other girls as usual. Look a Gwen, Jlo, Kylie. They are not being as scrutinized for their looks and surgeries.

    • @Theicons687
      @Theicons687 Před 23 dny +15

      I'm glad they're not it's just a shame Madonna is , Kylie on forums back then was kinda dragged for Botox which she has admitted to but people loved to hate😢it's a shame why can't we just enjoy their music

    • @Ronsquaremy
      @Ronsquaremy Před 21 dnem +1

      Gwen Stefani looks like a light skinned biracial now. She didn't just get a facelift...a fox eye lift and lip fillers too.

    • @erossinema8797
      @erossinema8797 Před 10 dny

      Gwen is not as big of a star as Madonna. Nowhere near that big

    • @florencembah2626
      @florencembah2626 Před 7 dny

      I don't know about the rest but Kylie gets dragged a lot

    • @yassercastillo2607
      @yassercastillo2607 Před 6 dny

      @@florencembah2626 Kylie Minogue?

  • @daintycaked
    @daintycaked Před 24 dny +86

    having actually lived during the like a virgin era, madonna was very much considered a pop star at the likes of Britney spears until she released the album True Blue. Not that there's anything wrong with Britney, but I'm saying she was considered a musician for teeny boppers. (despite the sexually charged songs). Her music grew with her audience. I was madonna for halloween when I was eight. A lot of little girls like me loved her back then--it tells you a lot. So... she was not transgressive necessarily from the beginning, but she was definitely different and got to be more transgressive as her and her fanbase aged.

  • @indiefairy6951
    @indiefairy6951 Před 23 dny +22

    She just made a historical show here in Brazil, and I'm so proud of us, brazilians, and her for making this happen! I absolutely love Madonna and she's a legend. She fought for the LGBT+ community when It wasn't accepted in any way in society. For everything she has done, for everyone she inspired, I don't mind the photoshop and the cosmetic procedures, let her have fun.

  • @maxplease9323
    @maxplease9323 Před 23 dny +26

    You should also talk about Kylie Minogue and the ageist society and how the radios black balled her comeback single Padam Padam for being old

    • @ignazs.5816
      @ignazs.5816 Před 21 dnem +2

      I hadn't heard about this. However, kylie didn't need the radios this time around. This isn't the 2000s. I do understand the existence of agism, but Kylie minogue is the success story amidts this type of discrimination. Still, her comeback single was huge and even led to finally winning a Grammy. This was the year for her and proves that a 55 year old female singer is capable of chart success without ridiculous behavior and excessive cosmetic surgery as that of Madonna. I like her and respect her, but definitely lost admiration for her as I thought she's was stronger than that as to let herself be consumed about her looks and what people think of her

    • @erossinema8797
      @erossinema8797 Před 10 dny

      Blackballed her song??? The truth is, it's a lousy song. All that time in the studio, and that's what her record company releases??? Seriously??? Padam this

  • @Sttephy30
    @Sttephy30 Před 23 dny +70

    Madonna isn't doing anything different than what Cher is & has been doing. Madonna doesn't wanna wrinkled up, saggy face. So she's getting plastic surgery. Everyone isn't gonna age amazingly well like TINA TURNER did. Madonna's a legend tho.

  • @karasays01
    @karasays01 Před 23 dny +70

    People will never be satisfied. Madonna has paved the way for so many artists. But her current look is disheartening. I loved that madonna had muscles later in life as that was not consideed common although she was still considered thin which is considered a euro standard the power from her frame inspired me. The face and possible bbl just shook me. It made me realize maybe Madonna was insecure all along and this physical change was the manifestation of it. She has had work done but it was more so natural looking and I undestand why she did it but she took it too far.

  • @meloi661
    @meloi661 Před 23 dny +22

    Honest, I love you but will have to agree to disagree. Madonna can do whatever she wants. She is the blueprint for so many stars today who on day will get old too. She is a trend setter. She is setting the trend for an older pop star in the future. In the future Lady Gaga, Meg, Doja, Beyonce, Miley and Taylor plus more will be able to be 60 year old pop stars and still be sexy and we will be okay with it. No one will question it because Madonna took all the heat for it in the past. Being sexy is not only for the young.
    Plus I was a kid of the 90s. Madonna was BIG. For the MTV generation between Madonna, -
    and. Huge. If you grew up with Madonna you will understand. Madonna is still the queen of pop.
    Nice video

  • @nouriciolz
    @nouriciolz Před 22 dny +8

    "When I'll die, they'll finally kiss my ass" - Madonna
    I will cry this woman like a family member.❤

  • @user-ui2lf3tk8l
    @user-ui2lf3tk8l Před 23 dny +11

    I didn’t know we really cared about her looks anymore… we have evolved to realize her literal looks were not what catapulted her to her heights. So she can touch her face, whatever makes her fell better

  • @kaijunasan4497
    @kaijunasan4497 Před 24 dny +275

    I honestly think she's just trying to hold onto her youth too much 😅 but the whole being late for her own concerts and then blaming it on the audiences I knew she lost it long before

    • @Emerald_Forge
      @Emerald_Forge Před 24 dny +49

      I think her facial features would've aged really well anyways so it's especially sad

    • @kaijunasan4497
      @kaijunasan4497 Před 24 dny +1

      ​@@Emerald_Forge Ya:/

    • @cosmefulanitoo2625
      @cosmefulanitoo2625 Před 23 dny +14

      Tell that to the 1.6 millions at her Rio concert... just a few days ago. Just sayin'... 😘😎

    • @SavvyMuhon
      @SavvyMuhon Před 23 dny

      @@cosmefulanitoo2625
      Girl go touch grass

    • @jiananlee5482
      @jiananlee5482 Před 23 dny +19

      If it wasn’t for an ageist industry basically pressuring her to stay young and chic, I don’t think she’d be undergoing so many surgeries

  • @EmilyTressa
    @EmilyTressa Před 22 dny +8

    YES YES YES - Madonna has changed the course of history and fought for so many things. She has never been afraid to speak her mind and has been criticized relentlessly for her entire career. She is smart and involved in all of her work with a thorough artistic vision. She is a talent and above all has a huge heart and a tough exterior. I feel it took her almost passing away this past year to really get the world to connect with her which is so sad. Her Celebration Tour is so amazing and I cried the entire time I was there. At 65 she can still put on a show and you can see how happy she is to still be here.

  • @charlesvanness1021
    @charlesvanness1021 Před 23 dny +9

    She deserves all of her flowers while we still have her!! These last few days after Rio have been amazing for Madonna fans ❤ I hope it continues. She more than deserves it. Long live the Queen!

  • @donjai9366
    @donjai9366 Před 23 dny +8

    I think Madonna is amazing & an absolute icon & I honestly think she has aged gracefully. Madonna is over 60 & is still singing & performing just like she was in the 1980's. And even at 65 she's still making history. I love Madonna's music & artistry. I think she's an absolute legend & I love how so many artists today are collaborating & paying homage to her.

  • @laurenan9381
    @laurenan9381 Před 6 dny +2

    i went to Madonna's Celebration Tour this year. as a shy and traumatized teen girl with serious body dysmorphia and self-acceptance issues as well as a long-time fan of Madonna, it was surreal seeing a 65 year old dance and sing perfectly on stage with makeup, multiple costume changes, bright (and hot) lights, and jet lag from her world tour. she is a motherfucking icon, like it or not. people are always going to say shit about her and while she may have learned to live with it through the years, i think that it is time that we as a collective society, should start to have discussions about ageism towards public figures, especially those who are overtly sexual.

  • @surette2012
    @surette2012 Před 23 dny +5

    Sucks because I feel like a lot of the trust falls and support for people suffering with body dysmorphia or bad body image is only reserved to young or younger people.
    So much sympathy and understanding even though, objectively, the young are stilled considered in their prime in looks. Meanwhile those actually dealing with the existential and dissociative stress of visibly aging and feeling disconnected from the image of themselves they’ve grown attached to…are mocked. it becomes a mockery. A spectacle to gawk at.
    Sure, we try to flag them down with ‘aging is a blessing’ ‘just age gracefully.’ But it’s all so insincere. Platitudes. They really wanna say ‘please, phase out of society already, I don’t want to see your aged face. it’s a bummer and reminds me I’m next.’
    We live on perpetual denial.
    I’ve seen all the unfiltered comments regarding women staying natural vs women getting enhancements. They both get dragged.
    I’ve also seen creators/public figures I really liked have an intrusive thought and say really ignorant and dismissive things out loud about older people and their own thoughts about their future aged self.
    Everyone is secretly repulsed and lying, it seems. It’s like how all those edgy kids joked about unaliving at 30, there’s truth in that. They may not do it, but they become mentally disengaged with life by then. It’s like a spiritual death.

  • @nikibronson133
    @nikibronson133 Před 23 dny +11

    I really hope that Madonna is still pushing the boundaries and playing up the new normal in the sense that women are allowed to age or be sexual just as men are. Your video description put it very well and wouldn’t it be ironic if we look back 20 years from now and realize Madonna was still pushing boundaries and pushing the norm forward just as she did her whole career

  • @HenryCLHarries
    @HenryCLHarries Před 21 dnem +4

    MADONNA is forever the moment and forevery favourite every album just slaps ... Her lyrics, vocals, productions, performances, vidials, storytelling, speeches, styles, reinventions, genre bending, business, entrepreneur, energy is secobd to none theres no one on her level and never will be and RIO performance this week in her mid 60s proved she has the power 🫶✨ long may she reign

  • @MarianahsTrenchGal1
    @MarianahsTrenchGal1 Před 23 dny +13

    I remember Madonna being shamed for being "too old" to act sexy because 4 Minutes came out when I was 10 and I remember watching the music video and my mom was one of the people saying that about her. She came in to the room while I was watching it and said something like, "what the heck, is that Madonna? Isn't she in her 50s or something?" And she laughed at the way she was dancing in her skin-coloured suit in the video

  • @nickyd3572
    @nickyd3572 Před 23 dny +4

    I first heard Madonna in the 80s and was hooked ever since. I don’t only think she is a great musician but lyricist and visionary, up there with Michael Jackson.

  • @MashaRistova
    @MashaRistova Před 23 dny +3

    I appreciate this video so much. It’s important.

  • @majestyad1matata562
    @majestyad1matata562 Před 24 dny +7

    I love your videos!♥️

  • @sebastianmonterolofeudo9020

    OMG, leave her alone! She is the Queen of Queens

  • @mr.tawakal
    @mr.tawakal Před 23 dny +4

    The ‘Ray of Light’ album should’ve been her musical direction once she turned 50. It was a masterpiece and going down that road would’ve made her artistically revered. Like, Barbra Streisand revered. Now, she’s just controversial as she always has been.

  • @Chelaxim
    @Chelaxim Před 24 dny +13

    Tabloids used to photoshop with wrinkles and turkey neck...insecurities don't happen in a vacuum. You think those same people would stop hating on her when she did start to age?

  • @ryanpriye1402
    @ryanpriye1402 Před 23 dny +5

    She’s been a rebel from day one so ofc she chooses to defy the expectation of “aging gracefully”

  • @HvPsnlitenw4991
    @HvPsnlitenw4991 Před 23 dny +3

    Madonna is a veteran warrior queen who mastered the music industry for such a long time. I feel so blessed to see her in her most recent tour- the first ever time I ever saw her in the flesh after living a whole childhood seeing her through a screen.
    Not only did she made it okay for me to be gay in my teenager years but we both share a fate of surviving near death. It was fate for me to see her in person and seeing her at age 29 after surviving cancer at age 28 and after she survived near death fulfilled my 20s.

  • @kimberlytaylor8550
    @kimberlytaylor8550 Před 22 dny +4

    The caption should say “what happens when you WON’T age gracefully”.

  • @MakeMeCare89
    @MakeMeCare89 Před 24 dny +49

    Madonna didnt start getting weird until post "American Life" which is where she lost sight of her art and started getting with random producers and doing collaborations which she's rarely done on an album 😅....So I wonder if conforming to current trends is where she became insecure and started going crazy?

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Před 23 dny

      awww look - troll copy pasting the usual anti Madonna drivel into many comment replies on top of original posts. Its cute, really. Bless your heart.

    • @MakeMeCare89
      @MakeMeCare89 Před 23 dny

      ​@@xBINARYGODxdude shut up and get laid okay?

    • @Qwerty-lq2op
      @Qwerty-lq2op Před 22 dny +1

      If you think criticizing america for how they handle the twin tower situation and the propaganda at that time is being weird, then your comment is irrelevant

  • @elinat2414
    @elinat2414 Před 23 dny +3

    Idk, I suppose there is something to be said about growing with your audience.
    Pop musicians are generally always young, because their target audience is usually younger people (teens-20s). Young people want to see their peers or people just a little older (because pop is also aspirational).
    I can't help but find it really sad when people try to hold onto being overly sexy into middle age. You can still be absolutely stunning while being mature, classy and experienced. My husband's grandmother is in her 70s, and she's an objectively, beautiful woman. Her elegance, sense of style and bearing is what makes her beautiful. Being sexy isnt the only way to be physically attractive. And there is a sense of fundamental immaturity that comes with wanting attention by showing off as much of your body as possible. Hence why it can be offputting when older people (who should be more mature) do it.

  • @maddy8124
    @maddy8124 Před 23 dny +19

    I don’t know how to feel about Madonna because even at this older age, she would make jokes about her own sons friends (teenagers) being attractive- she wrote a book about her interacting with young men and being completely happy about taking advantage of young boys…I’m surprised u didn’t mention that 😂

    • @IsabEla-tf5lt
      @IsabEla-tf5lt Před 23 dny +11

      Research before you talking that book was about her having a relashionship when She was 18 and he was 16

  • @sharmanitascos
    @sharmanitascos Před 13 dny +2

    Erotica is probably the best album she has ever produced and probably one of the best albums produced in the past decades form a mainstream superstar at least in terms of artistry

  • @bentoth6377
    @bentoth6377 Před 23 dny +4

    She still makes great music and breaks records to this day thats what matters most...shes the ultimate creative

  • @Itsacamlife
    @Itsacamlife Před 23 dny +4

    She’s truly a legend of her own! She stays on her own lane and really just mind her business and having fun!!!! Forever Iconic! ❤❤❤

  • @franeh13
    @franeh13 Před 14 dny

    She is truly a real trooper! So moved by this video essay. Thanks 🙏 ❤

  • @arealkp
    @arealkp Před 23 dny +6

    Shes great. However I wish she did all this and loved herself as she aged.

  • @XillowLinoue
    @XillowLinoue Před 19 dny +2

    She has one life, let her be!
    Same for male and others.

  • @mitchelherreraquiane2661
    @mitchelherreraquiane2661 Před 23 dny +4

    Madonna is the GOAT! ❤

  • @melina-re2ns
    @melina-re2ns Před 22 dny

    great vid as always, bro pls drop a video about the kendrick/drake situation

  • @90210bryan
    @90210bryan Před 23 dny +2

    This is such a brilliant history on Madonna. Such an incredible woman.

  • @filomenapalesoo8580
    @filomenapalesoo8580 Před 23 dny +3

    It’s never been done before and they are just uncomfortable or envious of her for doing it. As long as she’s having fun I will enjoy her also xx.

  • @MoonRavenn
    @MoonRavenn Před 21 dnem

    Mkay love this!!!!❤❤❤

  • @edreid7872
    @edreid7872 Před 23 dny +2

    For someone who was with her at the beginning, her trajectory is interesting to say the least, and only those who have experienced her entire journey, and not just bit and pieces, can appreciate what she is attempting now.

  • @carlpacheco2058
    @carlpacheco2058 Před 24 dny +48

    The problem with Madonna is that the quality of her music peaked 20 years ago, and since then she has offered subpar albums, and she went from innovating and pushing pop music forward into chasing trends and seeking to do collabs with flavor of the week new artists to stay relevant, and her sexuality went from provocative and groundbreaking to desperate and embarassing. I used to love Madonna when I was little but I haven’t really liked her music since Confessions, it’s just not particularly good. Other female artists like Kylie Minogue and Mylene Farmer are still making good music and being sexy without coming across as desperate.

    • @cosmefulanitoo2625
      @cosmefulanitoo2625 Před 23 dny +10

      This comment says more about you and how you view older women than it does about Madonna herself. The fact that you don't like anything post Confessions is SUBJECTIVE and speaks to your own musical tastes. That shouldn't interfere with whether or not Madonna should continue making music. Regarding comparing her to other women, it is sexist and misogynistic. And you know it. But it is also even UNFAIR. Kylie's career is not in the least comparable to Madonna's. And you know that too.

    • @shawncarter5434
      @shawncarter5434 Před 23 dny +20

      ⁠@@cosmefulanitoo2625Don’t pull the sexist and misogynistic card. What they’re saying is true. Madonna is desperate and washed up

    • @IsabEla-tf5lt
      @IsabEla-tf5lt Před 23 dny

      ​@@shawncarter5434She just had 1.5 million people watching her on brazil

    • @robertprice4826
      @robertprice4826 Před 23 dny

      Madame X and rebel heart are classic Madonna, taking on the patrichal system. Criticsizing American society for allowing Trump to even become president. She even said females who didn't vote for Hilary Clinton aren't feminists but full of self hatred and hatred for women

    • @BroJo676
      @BroJo676 Před 23 dny +4

      Somebody talked about French language Mylene Farmer. It's rare. And I'm. French.

  • @Mylene2023
    @Mylene2023 Před 22 dny +2

    Madonna is the eternal Queen of Pop, hands down!

  • @Tattles94
    @Tattles94 Před 23 dny +2

    This is so beautiful to highlight this icon's accomplishments. She is an inspiration to me and encourages me to see growing older as the gift that it is and not the curse society tries to make it out to be for women.

  • @missbellaiza
    @missbellaiza Před 23 dny +4

    She’s still look amazing

  • @jacksampson5615
    @jacksampson5615 Před 23 dny

    This was an excellent career retrospective on Madonna! What a legend! I haven't enjoyed much of her 21st-century music. i can't get behind a LOT of the instagram pics and how much she is altering her face to look young. But I'm so glad we have Madonna, and she'd given us so much great music

  • @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911
    @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911 Před 19 dny +2

    Yes, and? She’s a living LEGEND ❤

  • @PureSparkles22
    @PureSparkles22 Před 23 dny +2

    Rebel heart was a great album and back that up to the beat is a great song

  • @Victorcolongarcia
    @Victorcolongarcia Před 23 dny +2

    Omg this video! THANKS! Young people need to know. They have internet but no curiosity about pop history

    • @imaslave4u..
      @imaslave4u.. Před 14 dny

      Nah I’m young but I love learning about stuff like this

  • @hiramdominicus7413
    @hiramdominicus7413 Před 24 dny +12

    Crazy crazy.. and a big shame after being one of the most beautiful faces of entertainment and of course iconic….. vanity is the source of many evils.. and exactly bc of that, she is actually the biggest ageist of ALL…… 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @Qwerty-lq2op
      @Qwerty-lq2op Před 22 dny +2

      Calling the victim of huge wave of ageism as “the biggest ageist” just because she did nothing other than minding her own face is the most evil thing i’ve seen today🤷
      Victim blaming is moronicly scary

  • @supermahmoud
    @supermahmoud Před 23 dny +1

    "Ray Of Light" will always be my favorite album from her, "Frozen" is heavenly ♥

  • @strawberrylime33
    @strawberrylime33 Před 23 dny +2

    Good for her! I'm glad she made history. And I'm not even a mega fan. Damn, people wanted her out of the industry when she was barely 40, and she's still here!

  • @jennastewart7290
    @jennastewart7290 Před 12 dny +2

    The whole "older women can be sexy" while changing your face to look younger is the biggest and most disappointing oxymoron. If you're altering your face (fillers, surgeries, even just photoshopping every picture) you're just admitting in a roundabout way that you're NOT sexy at all as an older woman. 🤦‍♀️ Stand on it or sit down.

  • @LeilaVividSounds
    @LeilaVividSounds Před 19 dny +2

    Madonna used sex appeal so much because she wasn’t very talented. She was competing with Prince and Michael Jackson and her only angle was using her sex appeal. Most people don’t find it appealing as you age. Why should she expect a 16 year old to find her sexually appealing in her 60s? What helped her was keeping her finger on the pulse of music trends and working with great producers. No one has to find her super sexy in her 60s if they don’t want to. We don’t need it rammed down our throats!

  • @DamienHurts
    @DamienHurts Před 23 dny +1

    did anyone notice the piano instrumental in this video is Papa Don't Preach

  • @stereohype1
    @stereohype1 Před 16 dny

    I've seen her live twice. The first time was The Girlie Show Tour in Sydney on Nov 19th 1993 (this show was filmed for the DVD tour!) and a second time for her Re-Invention Tour in Philadelphia on July 4th 2004. I was right up close stage at this one and she pointed directly at me when she sang Crazy For You...I couldn't believe my luck!
    She is a true icon and tbh I love her more than ever cos of how she perseveres and is paving the way for younger female singers who will someday reach their 60s and will be able to continue high success thanks to Madonna's trailblazing

  • @facchinett
    @facchinett Před 24 dny +4

    Love her

  • @akuaampabeng
    @akuaampabeng Před 23 dny

    Hey Honest, I was wondering if you’re going to make a review video on Radical Optimism?

    • @jpmackey1607
      @jpmackey1607 Před 23 dny

      He just did. 😉

    • @akuaampabeng
      @akuaampabeng Před 23 dny

      @@jpmackey1607 haha just found after I posted this and enjoyed every minute of it, thank u😁

  • @santiagoaristizabal7591
    @santiagoaristizabal7591 Před 24 dny +3

    Love her ❤

  • @donjai9366
    @donjai9366 Před 23 dny +1

    Hi Honest Can we get a Eternal Sunshine review please & a video on George Michael and his impact on the music industry similar to a documentary & a video on Prince & his impact as well. 😁

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936 Před 23 dny +22

    Her career changed with Ray Of Light because she had just became a mom. She said that herself. But she can learn a thing or two from Janet Jackson. At the age that Janet is now. She doesn't need to prove herself with sexism and her age. She just still got it. Madonna just don't wanna get older.

  • @growinsides
    @growinsides Před 23 dny +2

    this is journalism

  • @juandiegotorres9632
    @juandiegotorres9632 Před 23 dny +1

    Okay but sexuality in general does have an expiration date, as sex drive naturally starts to diminish and sexual liberation stops being a priority in people's lives.

  • @jessiklovecine
    @jessiklovecine Před 24 dny +4

    the background song im sorry😭😭😭😭

  • @Jgotmilk555
    @Jgotmilk555 Před 22 dny

    Madonna is a legend! Thanks for the great video!

  • @robertschrader
    @robertschrader Před 21 dnem

    Aw, this video made me tear up.

  • @Yugvijay
    @Yugvijay Před 24 dny +10

    Girl the title... Lemme see the video help 😭

  • @jackt8295
    @jackt8295 Před 23 dny +2

    Madonna was there for the LGBT community since the start- especially during the AIDS epidemic. No other 65 year old woman can bring 1.4million people to a concert- even if it were free. We need to show respect.

  • @NoNameNumberTwo
    @NoNameNumberTwo Před 23 dny +2

    #madonnaforever ✨

  • @StevieP.
    @StevieP. Před 22 dny +1

    I just saw her in one of her six sold out shows at the o2 in London. If she had grown old gracefully id have been disappointed. And say what you want Rio was iconic AF Brazil showed up. Have you seen the clips of the audience singing along to hung up and like a prayer.
    Edit: all the people say anyone could do that... Nah youd have to be big in Brazil

  • @lucky-belindaniko9732
    @lucky-belindaniko9732 Před 23 dny +2

    Long live The Queen 👑

  • @kyolastname9048
    @kyolastname9048 Před 19 dny

    Does anybody know what song is playing in the background

  • @patchchrist
    @patchchrist Před 18 dny

    I saw her live at her Celebration tour on my Birthday. It was incredible! She still looked beautiful in person & stood and danced throughout the whole show and very rarely sat down. It was totally worth it!

  • @ErestuPedro
    @ErestuPedro Před 22 dny +1

    she was here in brazil just days ago and the whole country was gagged. she still got it. the show aired on tv, so everyone watched it. i felt like i was in the 80s or 90s. lol
    i think she can do this in america too, just needs a better plataform. her use of social media didn't do her any favor, she's just not good at it. but give her a stage and a way to comunicate with the general public and she will be on the top the game again.

  • @gskn7147
    @gskn7147 Před 23 dny +8

    Madonna loves to redefine herself. She is not insecure. Odd at times sure. But she knows exactly what she wants and what she is doing. Outspoken on current and relevant issues through her artistic expressions. 💐

  • @UyandaMaboea-dv3qc
    @UyandaMaboea-dv3qc Před 23 dny +16

    I wish that all older celebrities could use Jane Fonda's doctor just so they stay looking like themselves. Even my woman, Janet Jackson, has clearly had work done but still looks like herself. I honestly think what sent Madge into this downward spiral was her divorce from Guy Ritchie cos that's when she started doing really embarrassing things and the annoying part is that era was when her face was on the limit of looking pulled but still keeping her natural features

    • @cosmefulanitoo2625
      @cosmefulanitoo2625 Před 23 dny

      Gurl... mind your own business. Miss Fonda, Janet and Madonna are fine. U are just a hater bye.

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Před 23 dny

      uh - what? have you seen fonda? She looks fine enough, but she really doesnt look the way she used to. And thats fine, she doesnt need to. Even if none of these people got any sugury, they would not look like they did before.

  • @LisaLee__
    @LisaLee__ Před 5 dny

    In a 30 Rock episode they're debating whether it's harder to be black or a woman in America: Liz says "no one has it harder than women in this country: We cant be president, [can't be] network news anchors...Madonna's arms look crazy."
    It's such a genuinely hilarious line from Tina Fey

  • @latinoburger123
    @latinoburger123 Před 23 dny +2

    Just throwing this out there
    Rio has a population of close 7 million people
    Close to 20% of that lives in poverty
    What do you think is going to happen when you have a Artist like Madonna throwing a free show in a public space that’s nearly 3 miles long.
    Not criticizing her & all respect is due but just saying…

  • @katarinakrnjevic8183
    @katarinakrnjevic8183 Před 8 dny

    It's a shame that so much news articls are now all about her looks rather than her music because ,more of her songs are getting forgotten.

  • @PrinceCryBaby
    @PrinceCryBaby Před 7 dny

    Wow, I cried a bit. Love Madonna ❤