Why is Silksong taking so long?
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2022
- Why is Silksong Taking So Long?
Hollow Knight Silksong is a full fledged sequel to the original but it also features a completely different character that appeared in the first game, the hornet. Sure, Silksong has been in development in some form since 2017, when the team released Hollow Knight but there is just such a minuscule amount of concrete information about the game. Just looking at their website blog, the last official post was back in 2019, which was before the pandemic.
The game features a completely new world to explore with all new game mechanics thanks to a new character. Silksong also features crafting in some variety, as well as quests that will have you with hunting down rare beasts, ancient mysteries, and lost treasures. Once you finish the game, you will unlock a new mode called Silk Soul mode that puts a spin on the game with unique and challenging experiences according to their official description. At around 30-40 hours to complete the original, having a new game plus mode that drastically changes the mechanics of the game would provide deep value.
What most people forget is that Team Cherry, the South Australian developers behind Hollow Knight, who have only created one game so far are only a handful of people. At the start of the development the team was only three people and some other sources indicate that the team might be four now. With everything we know about the size and scope of SilkSong, there is good chance it doesn’t release in 2022.
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"Team cherry...has only created one game so far" man I know hungry knight is the face of team cherry but team cherry has actually made a second, lesser known game called hollow knight.
Ha. I think I have heard of Hollow Knight, but in all seriousness I just go by what Team Cherry says. On their website and on the Silksong trailer at 1:57 they say “second game by Team Cherry”. I assume since the previous projects weren’t really full games and we part of game jams they don’t count them themselves. Thanks for checking out the video
Wait what??? I always thought people were misspelling hungry as hollow! I didn’t realize hollow knight was areal game. Learn something new every day I guess…
Yeah it was for a game jam. Interesting to know absolutely but even Team Cherry considers Hollow Knight their first game according to their official website
@@VDGMS I thought Hungry Knight was before they were team cherry
edit: nope I'm wrong
Will silk song be an dlc or a standalone
Almost died of laughter when he said 2022 at the end.
It’s December 2023 now 💀
@@menacingrock750I think it will come out before GTA6 at least
half life three coming out before silksong
@@akospapanitz8390
@akospapanitz8390 No, gta6 has a release date, silk song only has a reveal trailer all the back in 2019. We all pray it comes out next year but we can only hope....
Silksong to be out soon would be amazing, but just remember, the longer team cherry takes the more polished the game will (hopefully) be
“There’s a good chance it doesn’t release in 2022”
*cries in 2024*
*Sits down next to you and cries in 2024*
Joins the both of you and cries in 2024
Sits on the ground next to all of you and cries
I cannot wait for when 2026 hits and people come back here to update the counter
first time? im a gd player so i know how it feels waiting so long for something revolutionary
I'd say there is a slight chance it doesn't release in 2022.
Damn the 2022 at the very end really caught me off guard lmao
I heard Silksong so I came running
Yay, Relyea
@@VDGMS coming in a year 🥳
Same lol
Hi Relyea hope you will make silksong get through also
Coming hopefully in like late June 2023
And now it’s 2024 but I still want Team Cherry to take their time with this
Id say its pretty nuch done by now
I agree! I’d love for it to come out soon, but I would really love to see it be a game that is released with all its bits and bobs sorted out. It would suck to see it come out but have it not be its best form that the devs are working so hard to make it be
Their biggest mistake was announcing it so early,shouldve done it later so we didnt have to wait so long,we wouldnt be impatient if we didnt even know it was happening
It was announced as part of the original Kickstarter. As a stretch goal.
In hindsight that’s the best, but they still had a dlc to provide to backers, this ended up turning into silksong, so they wanted to let backers know they didn’t forget about them, but the Nintendo treehouse was probably way too early if there wasn’t going to be anything after that
Answer: it's not. It's been like 3 years. Anybody who thinks silksong is taking too long doesn't understand how hard and time consuming game design is, especially with only a small handful of devs.
Edit: I'm not saying that we don't have a reason to be frustrated. They definitely should be giving us more updates, but we at least shouldn't be mad at the actual amount of time it's taking.
True, it's not taking too long at all
First off: it’s been 4 years
Second off: the game was at least partially done when it was shown off, particularly considering that the only substantial update on the game, which was released 3 years ago, said that they’d already exceeded their estimate on how many enemies would be in the game.
Third off: nothing is stopping them from hiring help for their new game.
Fourth off: game development is hard, but not all consuming. At the rate they are clearly working, considering their lack of communication, you’d expect the game to be out sooner.
Fifth off: silk song fans don’t even want the game to be out now(not that we’d mind), we just want news, or a development update, or a release date, or any kind of confirmation that the game isn’t stuck in development hell, or to be told it’s in development hell if it is.
Edit: I’m not sure why everyone is responding to me… I’m not the only person making these points… but ok. Again, the biggest problem is lack of communication. It’s one thing to delay a game repeatedly. It’s another to never give a deadline and go radio silent for years.
We did get news from team cherry, don't worry, the game isn't stuck. I'm guessing you just didn't notice.
@@lunarsystem101 ...Which they did. A couple weeks ago only, Team Cherry literally said during an interview, where they were congradulated for winning the award of most anticipated game of 2021, that it ''can't be too much longer.''
@@lunarsystem101 We learned that this would be a new game instead of a dlc 3 and a half year ago...
Not only hard and timeconsuming, team cherry probably want to make it right a second time with silksong, just like with hollow knight so that it is a successful continuation of the saga. We all know, what rushed and unfinished games can do to the crowd so be patient. We sureky will get the game in time, perfectly finished and on top of that an enjoyable expierience
Exactly. I tried to highlight the major reasons why it’s taking so long. Thanks for checking out the video and the well thought out comment.
@@VDGMS only true gamers, which appreciate the whole effort behind such delicate art should also have the patience for a next title. If it happens is in the end up to the programmers themselves and the funding for it. To be honest, i bought an other title in antizipation to get some good content (gt7) but was utterly disappointed of the results. Up to that point i was actually quite eager to play that game, but its the first time in my long gaminghistory, that i got so deeply disappointed. I dont think that this will happen with silksong, since it is so carefully developed. Its disgusting to see people playing games in a rush and craving instantly for more content. We all know all to well how that ends wish rushed development ... ( fallout 76 as an example)
@@Kinsanth_ can we forget about security breach?
@@bobebobo2643 wait there's a game called security breach... that sounds dumb and rushed with alot of bugs
3 years isn't that long
I know people are used to near yearly game release now but that's really really hard to do and leads to a lack of innovation
(Call of duty, assassins creed ect)
I'd like to play the game before I die in a nuclear holocaust, famine or civil unrest.
At this rate we might die in the robot uprising of 2054
Outlook not so good
@@arobotwithepilepsie6053 It's getting even worse, so probably 2040 at this rate.
Imagine creating one game ever and it’s flawless.
You can definitely imagine the pressure of trying to top or surpass it. The longer the wait for the game to release the even higher expectation it will consume.
Hk is absolutely not flawless but still very good
Tbf its only been painful waiting because they teased to lauch it 3 years ago and released a demo. I understand it must have been a great choice to delay it and make it perfect. Its more that the transition from highly active feedback to painfully silent is what keeps anxiety high
Yeah I agree fully with you. They announced its been in development since 2017 but apparently it keeps growing in scope. There are enough games to play that there is no rush for it. Thanks for checking out the video and the well thought out comment.
@@VDGMS it got revealed in 2019
Yall waiting for a sequel? Imagine geometry dash
The main reason for this is because they are used to marketing to a small market, which you have to do from the start of development basically when you are a small company. They never learnt how to market to a audience the size hollow knight brought in.
Tbh i think it shouldve been anounced that they were making a new game when they were atleast close to finishing. I know many people will not agree with me beacuse they think its better to know than to not. But sometimes, surprises are better. Think about it, people now think that silksong is never releasing because it takes too long, but if they wouldve said it this year, everyone would be so hyped that they're finally making a second game. And in our eyes, it wouldnt take long. But here we are. Dissapointed because people have lost hope.
I’m super excited for silksong! I’m glad that team cherry is taking their time to make the game as great as we know it will be
Yup. I put about 40 hours into Hollow Knight on Switch. I think people forget or don’t know Team Cherry is only a handful of people
Yeah, I had that in my long form video but squeezing everything under a minute, I had to cut out the part with the specific amount of people. Crazy though because the game feels like a lot more people worked on it.
@@VDGMS If you only played hollow knight for 40 hours you probably have not beaten the radience
Yup i 100% Hollow Knight on PS4 and its one of my favorite experiences quite sometime.
A delayed game will eventually be good, but a rushed game will forever be bad.
-shigeru miyamoto
Holy shit this was made 2 years ago, that last line has me lost for words
People keep forgetting that Hollow knight is a very dense and vast game with a lot of details and making another game like that while being composed of a small team of developers, its quite obvious that it would take a very long time to make a high quality game.
You are very right. Many people don’t understand that good things take time.
Remember, it took a long time for hollow knight to release, too. Team Cherry doesn't, and can't, make this stuff overnight. I will admit tho, a small note from the devs saying they're OK would be nice.
Apparently a recent interview they mentioned development. People did put money into this game specifically years ago so I feel like they should've gotten some news at least yearly. I Get it's their own choice to support an unreleased game, but it'd be considerate to just say something.
It took 3 years from when it was announced. Which is as much as we've waited for silksong
@@cheese_vviz Silksong is a bigger game
@@thefrogggy100Bigger, but based on a complete and tested game. While it's not technically a DLC, the development essential is the same as a DLC, just with more content. You can't discount how significant time savings comes from working from a complete game/engine...
its a bigger game, and develpment for these kind of things with a small team usually take at least 5. usually 7.@@cheese_vviz
Tbh, I feel the wait for silksong would be much easier if they just updated more frequently. Something as simple as a screenshot would be more than enough to quell the fanbase .
I feel like they don’t want to reveal much so the experience will be fresh for everyone playing, but even development updates would be nice.
Yea also showing the demo way later than they did demos typically is a coming soon type thing but it has Ben like 3-4 years since that
This lack of information makes the release blow up, and people will be starving for this new game
@@jayzazel Doesn't even have to be Screenshots, just a few words here and there would probably satisfy the majority.
True, I literally forgot about silksong just because they haven't said anything. Even just them telling us there working on the game or a progress log would be nice.
This game can take as long as it needs but we need more communication with the devs
I'm honestly really glad it's taking a "long time", that means they're putting care into it and I feel it will be worth playing
Unless it comes out like a secuirty breach. Take 5 years, come out full of bugs and become a dead game in a few months except for people who can't admit the game is bad
Everyone needs to stop putting pressure on Team Cherry and wait assured we will get another quality product, don't care how long it takes
@Gobi the sandwing Exactly, we did get at some point "its being made" but there is absolutely no news from them
@@azalakhir918 But do we really need anything else? It's being made, be patient. Case and point.
We don't need weekly dev vlogs, occasional tweets, demos and E3 level exposition from 2 - 3 guys making a game.
We aren't "putting pressure" on them. It's not unreasonable to start to be irritated about a game that has admittedly been in development since 2017 and announced officially in 2019...that's 5 years in development and over 3 since it was announced...maybe they need to stop trying to make it so ridiculously big that it just keeps prolonging it. Eventually you have to settle on the world design and finish it...you could conceivably add on infinitely at this rate. Sorry but it's starting to be a bit ridiculous, and truthfully I lost all hype over it over a year ago. There is a such thing as prolonging something TOO long. Ska studios released salt and sacrifice in a 5 year time frame, and that's ONE person working on it....team cherry is what 3-5 people. There's no excuse for a 2D metroidvania to take that long to develop. They are gonna make it so big that it's impossible to remember everything, and actually wind up hurting the game more than anything
@@banilo1022 I mean sure but would a occasional update really hurt? When you're being silent for that long it can worry some people about the state of development for the game.
Hollow knight was a masterpiece, the team cherry crew is wonderful at their job and I'm sure once the wait is over, silksong will be just as amazing if not better.
restating that the dev team is so small definitely puts the scope and timeline of development into perspective. its incredibly easy to just fall into the mindset that the TC are taking "too long" to finish the game due to the fact that weve seen other games by triple a companies with massive teams go through their entire development cycle in the time silksong has been in development
I think if they didn’t reveal it as early as they did most people wouldn’t constantly be frustrated. The team is tiny though. Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. Happy gaming!
and a lot of those triple a games come out unfinished even with their mammoth teams 😅
They could always hire more devs, their are probably tonnes of talented artists in south Australia jumping at the opportunity to work with them. Their last game was massively succesful so they have the money
“Good chance it won’t be released in 2022” me watching this halfway through 2023 knowing full well it aint gonna be here for a while
Everyone needs to relax and let these guys finish their masterpiece.
Team cherry said that "it can't be too long, surely"
I feel like team cherry should try hiring people to help them along with thr development. But I mean, that’s just my thought
Yeah maybe. It’s possible since the game might feel like their baby, they might not trust others on it as much
I think maybe maybe not, they'd have to be super selective
I've read (I think on their blog) that they're not hiring people bc they prefer to keep their team small.
Not really, we need to understand we are dealing with humans, the little surprise boxes that think and act in completely unique ways.
It's like that little puzzle:
"It takes 2 hours for 5 people to dig a 5 meter deep hole, how many hours would it take for 10 people to dig the exact same hole?"
Keeping a small team makes it certain that they have full control over development and creative vision, altough it takes more time, they are not paid by hour or by quantity, but quality, as a better game will be sold more
If we sacrificed mossbag as planned, we would have the game already
oh my god, the movement looks so beautiful. Exactly what I would want in a game using her character.
I can't wait
Guys i have good news
WHAT NEWS TELL ME
Yeah
@@Mirrormagia he is trolling
No matter how long it takes I will be here waiting patiently for that time and it will be amazing when it arrives
they probably finished the game a year or years ago but have added like 3 DLCS worth of content, etc etc. this game is going to be MASSIVE!
Why is yt recommending me this like it's just trying to get my gopes up and just tear them right back down 😭
The algorythm is sadistic! 2023 comes to a closes and there is no information so far. At this point the game might never be finished...
... or it will be the best game ever 😎🤘
Team cherry is like three guys. Anyone that expects them to put out a game of this size and quality quickly is crazy. I respect them for now going and getting a bunch of nobodies to work on it too. They no good things take hard work and a lot of time. I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait
It has happened
Not only is team cherry a small group of Devs but with what we see in hollow Knight and in trailers for silksong, the game is going to be filed with absolutely stunning artwork which in itself takes a lot of time + the animating of said arc and implementation into gameplay. Hollow Knight was filled with little details and amazing story and background lore which most likely means they're going to try and do the same within silksong and improve upon it too. With covid most likely hindering development and many other things that can come up especially with the small team will delay the development time.
I'm glad they haven't given us and definitive release dates this far allowing them to put as much time and effort they can into perfecting and finalising the game without the constraint of a release date, we did get a release window but it seems to have been an estimate and most likely incorrect. I think we'll get a date when the team believes the game is finished which is the best time for them to do so, as much as I'm impatient and want it to come out soon I am willing to wait if it means silksong will be as good as they want to make it.
Well said
I do wish Team Cherry would be more transparent about the state of Silksong. Atleast some information regarding where in development Team Cherry is with the game. That would be way better than being left in the dark about the game.
Guys I come from 2032, that's it, that's the year when they will announce the release delay date!! 💀
The whole ordeal with SolkSong makes me glad I just played Hollow Knigjt for the first time in October. Couldn’t imagine being one of the poor saps waiting 6 freaking years for the next one…
It’s very smart to not give release dates, however frustrating it is for the fanbase, because release dates put pressure on a team and can cause them to cut corners to get it out on time. Delaying a game beyond the intended release date will also harm fanbase morale.
My issue is the lack of communication, it is not hard and doesn’t take much effort to make a new update post on social media saying they are still working on the game, they are going to have people loose interest if they don’t update people soon…
hollow knight silksong is taking so long because Mossbag found out the whole story with the info teamcherry released, And they were like: shit, we need to change the whole story because they already found out
I just don't care if it releases this year or in 2026, but I just want to know something, just show a trailer to confirm you're alive Team Cherry
Your wishes were immediately answered lol
Just watching this video I learned you can focus mid air
It's a charm ig
"silksong what are you talking about? Anyways do you want to hop on zote multiplayer V5 in a sec?"
It should be taken as a positive thing that Silksong is taking a while to be published as Team Cherry wants to have it in high quality and polished. And if they rushed it, it would turn out pretty bad and won't meet to everyone's expectations.
sometimes i forget team cherry is a small group of talented people instead of a AAA company
"Take your time to do your best, no matter how long it takes, make it right and nice"
honestly, give em time, if we rush em then we could get a product that thew team isnt proud of, it will be worth the wait :D
Would be nice though if team cherry could've given us any kind of progress update...
Yeah just something small would be nice. But then I’m sure people would be upset they didn’t announce a date or show new gameplay. It’s probably a lose lose scenario
Ah, hello past me, there is hope :) in the form of a release date
We'd be fine with it taking a long time we just want a update every now and then
Honestly the fact an indi company is able to produce such a groundbreaking game as Hollow Knight so quickly, and is now producing a sequel in only around five years is impressive.
Silksong can take as long as it needs. Team Cherry already gave us one of the best metroidvanias I've ever played + its dlc for $15, I trust them
To everyone saying they revealed it too early, please bear in mind that Hollow Knight was originally supposed to have a separate Hornet campaign, and that campaign grew in scope so much that Team Cherry decided to make it a sequel instead. If they hadn't revealed Silksong we'd have Kickstarter backers frothing over Team Cherry not releasing the promised Hornet campaign, so they were caught between a rock and a hard place. When the choice is between hyping people too early or disappointing them and crushing your brand's reputation, the choice is obvious.
Yea it's crazy how much the scope of the project grew. I'm confident it will be as amazing as HK was but it's hard not to be anxious when it comes to getting just pure radio silence from the devs.
I'm just hoping we dont end up with either a cyberpunk or Cube World style incident.
I have to assume you have seen the Nintendo Treehouse demo. I can’t count how many times I have watched it. The game looks as good as if not better than the original.
You know an indie game gonna be good when it takes 7 years
Yandere simulator
Oh damn we’re half way through 2024 I didn’t know when this came out
GTA 6: you too?
Silksong: yea...
I would rather have the game be good than get here now. My dear Hornet deserves the best, and I will wait as long as it takes for her to get it.
Update. Did anyone see the new trailer?!!!
To be fair, Team Cherry is trying to top a masterpiece right now. I don’t mind the wait since I’m tired of games being buggy and unfinished on release.
“Might not be finished by 2022”
*cries in 2024*
Yup, it’s almost 2024 now 😢
Trailer out!!!!
Love Team Cherry’s work, I hope they’re able to expand their studio in the near future
I’m genuinely worried for Team Cherry’s mental health at the release of Silksong. All of us as a community have such high expectations and have laid the pressure on thick. 6-7 years is incredible time for only 3 developers to be in the final stages of making a game. I just hope that people will be kind to them, and realize the expectations every one of us has probably isn’t realistic. Regardless, I look forward to Silksong even if it isn’t as big as we hope. I’ve spent hundreds of hours on Hollow Knight, as have a lot of other people, so I would be happy with just another DLC, let alone a game.
Anyways just my opinion on things. Great video, I did not know that they said they only have one game, made me chuckle. Hope you have a great day 😊
Bro it ain’t even out in 2024
2924 here. It’s been 107 years since TC announced Silksong. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the game isn’t expected to finish till 3159
‘Good chance that it doesn’t release in 2022’
Me: laughing in pain knowing it doesn’t even release in 2023
"Good chance it doesent release in 2022". You couldn't have been more right, I'm starting to doubt it'll be out in 2023
should release late this year or early next year, genuinely. and yes it is literally like 3 people so pls stop *bugging* them- LET THEM TAKE THEIR TIME TO MAKE A NON BUGGY GAME WITH LOTS OF CONTENT BEFORE U GET SOMTHING THAT FEELS LIKE A DEMO AND 30 DLCS
May 22 2024
@@angelpr2477 wait it has a release date now?
As someone living in 2023, i dissagree about there being a low chance of it releasing in 2022
I’m still excited for this game, but the more time passes, the more I’m worried some of the cool stuff we were originally shown is gonna get cut
Honestly, as long as the final product is fun and packed with gameplay and replayability, i wont complain
"Not releasing in 2022" *laugh/cry in November 2023*
I can confirm it dod not release in 2022.
As long as this game comes out in my life span I will always repeat this saying "Let them cook"
They can seriously take as long as they need! Firstly, I'm JUST starting to actually play through the game again (my first time I bought the game on my old Steam account I never beat it) and it's gonna take me some time. Secondly Hornets movement and the game mechanics look so damn good, I don't want anything to happen that may mess up a second masterpiece!
You can’t rush art
Well guess what there is something new and it’s pog
I thought this was recent, oh boy how wrong i am
This video talks about 2022... We are half-way 2024 man, I really want to play Silksong before my hype runs completely out.
I hope it takes a long time so when it does release it is as good as possible
Cmon guys, hollow knight already in its self took several years, why would the bigger sequel take less?
Getting to the end of this video and hearing '2022' bruh time passes too fast.
Anyway, here's to another month of seething and coping and being impatient despite all this knowledge. The longer it takes, the better it becomes.
There’s a lot of information on the game, even prior to the new information at the xbox showcase
it's 2024 now
theres a good chance the game doesnt release in 2024
Really funny that it's been a year and a half since this, and still no news...
its the end of 2023 and we still waitnig
Hi 2024 😂!
Everyone: they shouldn’t have released a trailer and then made us wait like 3 years
Me, a Deltarune fan: ha, child’s play
"Child's play" you got the second chapter after TWO years, not 3, and still had the first chapter.
I would say Deltarune fans had it a lot easier
This is like the regular development time for any game
2 years later
Maybe won't release in 2022.
Me crying at the end of 2023
I’d rather a game take a lifetime and be a fun and polished legendary game than get a half baked pile of garbage
'cough Cyberpunk cough'
11 months after this video, and it still hasn’t come out, because the team is so minuscule.
Once this game finally releases it’s probably gonna be a GOTY contender
Me whos watching this in 2024😅
Silksong really isn’t taking that long. Team Cherry is just doing a terrible job of giving the fandom much information about it.
And 2 years later STILL NOTHING!!! I mean we're getting metroid prime 4 before this
I think its a good thing they're taking their time instead of rushing. Look at Elden Ring. From Software actually took time and made a finished game that has so much to do instead of just rushing out an unfinished game like call of duty does and like battlefront 2042 was.