Mapping out the world of Silksong
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- "So let me get this straight 😐. I'm trapped in a strange land full of these CRAZY🤪 culty bell people 🙄. This deadly (and kinda curvy😜) assassin named Lace is trying to murder me 😱 and I have NO IDEA why 😕. And now I have to traverse across a haunted👻 land and LIBERATE✊ the people of Pharloom from some evil curse😈 that uses silk 🧵 and song🔔 to control their bodies and turn them evil. Yeah, that sounds about right. 😼" - Hornet
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Video Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:31 Opening Area
01:53 Moss Grotto
04:19 Bone Forest
07:33 Deep Docks
10:34 Dark Forest
12:03 Greymoor
14:42 Bell Heap City
15:47 Citadel base
18:20 Out of leads
18:49 Water areas
19:21 Desert area
20:37 Gilded Cities
21:19 Shining Citadel
22:15 Lace
22:59 Pipes
25:00 Outro
25:29 Map Reveal - Hry
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hello
first
@@qeqeq shut up
I'm so exited for the game! Also everyone join the discord you won't regret it (jk you will)
it's 12 am rn on my time
Team Cherry: "We had to delay Silksong to 2024 due to Mossbag leaking the entire map."
I might actually finish Pantheon of Hallownest by then (jk, I am bad)
ඞ Silksong will never release at this rate lol
Bruh don't give them ideas!
And thus, we shall sacrifice him again.
@@Voballt You can do it, I believe in you! I also haven't finished it but I'm doing some progress.
Never expected the Queen to drop before Silksong
Too soon!
@@zlac I agree. We should force Team cherry to delay silksong, we can wait a little more right?
It's so sad the queen died of hava, isn't it?
@@thorbjrndalsgaard5199 Hava lovely day . :D
Too soon bro 🤧
I cannot believe it. I cannot believe I just watched a 26 minute setup for an amogus joke, and I was enraptured by every minute of it.
mossbag go brrr
"well played steve, well played"
mossbag:i'm 4 paralel universes ahead of you
I just saw a video where the guy in there says the exact premise of this video, somwthing beatiful, a poece of media that raptures you in the most beautiful way just for the end, the conlusion, to be:
Amogus
When Lace said "BLANK CELL (Wanderers/LACE_MEET_3)" I got so emotional. Anger, fear, sadness, all at once. Truly the best line of the century.
definitely one of the lines in gaming history
This is definitely a line
Honestly i cried hearing this line. Why does she say this? Why does team cherry give a character such in depth mental distraught? Truly shaken by such a line
Everything? Even lust?
i was cryting and i still am
Team Cherry: Hasn't released almost any concrete Silksong content
Mossbag: Fine, I'll do it myself
@@TimothyMark7 people practically made pokémon legends: arceus in engines like unity before the game even released
Probebly the only reason why he made it; and I cant wait!
@@TimothyMark7 zoteboat
Honestly, watching this video I'm surprised just how much footage and information of Silksong is out there. What were y'all complaining about?
@@greyfox4838 we’re complaining about how long we went without said content or any release date to speak of
I sincerely hope falling off of cliffs to start the game is just gonna be Team Cherry's watermark for all of their future games
They make an anti-Metroidvania where the entire game is a flat line where you just go forward, except for the beginning where you fall into the map.
I for one, hope the next games start in a black out, hands tied on a cart.
@@ghostwizard7597 hey, you there
@@TheBenjiNebby you're finally awake
@@northpenguins You were trying to cross the border, right?
Mossbag: "There's the Conductor Romino, who we know nothing about... we don't even know what's creating the light found in the shining citadel"
Team Cherry: Thank god.
Silk and Song. Conductor Romino might be related to some 'concert' or 'orchestra' related to said Song
@@SomaC-7 maybe related to songstress in hk?
Me: not paying attention for 3 minutes
Mossbag: explains religion in silksong
Mossbag decoding the lore before the lore even exists
Potato
@@technoboop1890 carrots
@@loikids3160 thats not a vegetable
@@pyrospit1190 onion
I don't think map counts as lore
Now i understand why Team cherry has been so quiet, they're afraid of this man. Making 40-50 mins of incredibly specific speculation out of literal trailers.
Fair reason, you don't want 70% of your game uncovered by lore CZcamsrs before it's even released.
This was the first time I looked at the content they've revealed and went "maybe they should have hid a little bit more about this game from us"
this video is 26 minutes long
@@setablazee3570 mossbag made a video right after the second trailer released, I'm not even counting the video on the first trailer either!
@@northpenguins Jesus Christ 😳
Everyone on the internet: Demands Silksong
Team Cherry: Researches about candle lore just to make tiny visual details
In real life, no, but there's some sort of seal on the pitch-changing bell in the game that might have something to do with why it's able to do that. Because there is, you know, literal magic in the world.
According to your idea of the map, the lower down you go, the more natural resources there are. Could the pipes be used to transport resources? Or perhaps he elevator shafts
Actually true considering the bottom is a massive land of nature while the top is basically like the pinnacle of industrial revolution
@@retinazer92833
Spazmatizm where
@@yeeterdeleter0117 i dunno
Has anyone considered that the "desert area" might be the top of the volcanic area - the dust is volcanic ash. Notably volcanic ash is very bad for insects (if i remember correctly it affects their cuticles/pores). Hence why the bugs in the area appear to be in helmets. We even see a dead bug covered in ash. If you are correct about the last judges location it has a thematic tie to his fire abilities.
This is actually a good theory. I'm surprised I didn't think of that. Plus this actually works well with his map, which has the vault right above fob. Plus this goes along with my theory which is that this "desert" is the vault. And this volcanic ash or cinder is due to the last judge burning bugs to ash
holy shit your a genius
Is tc really that smart tho
im ganna go out on a limb and say volcanic ash is very bad for a majority of living creatures
@@Cywastaken I mean “wearing masks because there’s particles in the air” doesn’t necessarily need to be a reference to a very specific phenomenon for insects and volcanic ash. People wear masks like that all the time, just look at how people in east Asia react to Yellow Dust
Mossbag is trying to expand into mapping, Cornifer and Iselda better watch out.
Mapbag
@@Pogobro Moss...map?
Better yet, have them work together!
Matpat moment.
Shakra better watch out too
I hadn't seen it in the comments so here's a suggestion about the pipes. Music is pretty key in this game: maybe they're organ pipes, allowing the gongs to fully resonate throughout pharloom
"Coral area doesn't seem to have much water"
* proceeds to overlook the many waterfalls in the background *
Holy I got to this comment at the same time he said that 😧
You had me watch and entire 26 minutes of a well thought out and expertly made video just to throw and amongus joke at the end? Well played mossbag, well played.
im literally dying rn 💀
Yep.
Ohio
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I'm actually very excited to see how your map compares to the final XD
sus
The final map will likely be more suspicous
Oh cool its SonicHaXD the Furry!
6:29, I believe this downward progression of notes is called the dies irae, it's a little thing artists use to make their music creepier.
You can find this in several songs, such as: Pink soldiers (squid game song) and that one scene where Mufasa dies in the lion king.
Also, Vox made an entire video on this topic too
Edit: I just realised that 1 minute later he says it's the dies irae and reveals it to the public
I am such an idiot
What if the Nightmare heart is the “hidden plant higher being”, the heart looks kinda like a petal but more importantly the arteries look kinda like roots. There’s also the poem mentioning “heart” and “servitude” and in the next line “wake”. The poem actually makes a bit of sense if you assume the Nightmare heart, or some version, is being hidden. A reason for Grimm wanting white flowers is to maybe fight off the shade lord, maybe the flower is a “waking world” version/embodiment of the Nightmare heart. Also the first menu for silksong had red, rising sparks eerily close to the Grimm Troupe menu in HK. Just a fun thought for fellow Grimm fans
Too bad there probably will be little grimm lore in SS considering they only visit almost dead kingdoms
@@AC-sj5rj That’s very true and I’m not completely convinced about this myself, but who knows with this little info on silksong. Plus I think the will probably be a reference to Grimm in silksong just because of how popular he is in the community, but 8t is unlikely to be this big of a cameo
It seems pretty unlikely, given what we know about the Nightmare Heart. From what we saw in HK, the primary domain of the Nightmare Heart is the Nightmare Realm of the Dream World, which split from the rest of the Dream World in times past. While we know it's possible for a higher being in the Dream World to have dominion over a terrestrial realm as well (a la the Radiance's dominion over Hallownest via the plague), there's nothing to suggest the Nightmare Heart operates in like manner. Instead, we see the Nightmare Heart dipping its metaphorical toes in various kingdoms before leaving without a trace. Also, given the Heart seems to use masks to control its subjects, there's no reason for it to just randomly use silk in another area.
@@1umbreon4life Yeah this seems more likely tbh, honestly hope it’s a new higher being nowadays
The ending was a golden experience
Is that a jojo reference?!
peak among us humor
This is réquiem
If there's one thing I learned from this its that Pharloom has no respect for workplace safety
Final boss is bug Jeff Bezos
@@zabeerfarid7687 so, uh… sly?
@[REDACTED] no sly is Elon musk minus the tech
The real threat to Pharloom is OSHA
I absolutely love how the ants look. They look like tribal versions of the mantises and its awesome.
to me, lace seems like the hornet of silksong. When hornet first meets the knight, she fights them to see if they're worthy of being the vessel to save hollownest. It seems that lace is trying to do a similar thing, maybe more extreme- they both allude to the dangers further into the kingdom that we do not know about when we meet them. However, lace may also just want to kill us for whatever motives
I can't wait for this video to age another four years for silksong to actually release, in the meantime i expect mossbag to finally post a 12 hour analysis video on Steel Ass Jim and how he connects to the world of silksong.
We already have an expected launch window. Barring any massive data losses, we should see the game release by mid June next year.
@@dr.JackieBright as someone who works in the Foundation you must now this to be false
@@faether1429 If Team Cherry felt confident enough to give us a solid timeframe, I'm going to choose to take them at their word for this. If they fail to release the game by the deadline they set, I'm not going to be mad. Making a game is a long and difficult process. That being said. I will be dissapointed.
@@dr.JackieBright i wouldn't mind waiting another year or two
@@faether1429 don't lie
how can you still make content when team cherry gives us so little. not that I’m complaining, I live for it
I dont. I *am* it.
honestly its great, it helps pass the agonizing time until release
@@Pogobro hi pogobro love your vids
@@GroadF hello :)
Can't wait to see how surprisingly inaccurate his map is when Silksong finally comes out
Bruh its a giant among us reference dum dum
8:41 to 8:51 really made me realize how much team cherry upped their game when working on the silksong graphics.
That’s the best setup I’ve ever witnessed in my life. I’ve been tricked, I’ve been had, and possibly bamboozled by it
Please Team Cherry, we now have a map before we got a release date, mossbag’s got little sanity left
the release date's june 12th 2023
It was announced
@@lorax9644 At the latest.
@@lorax9644 more like a release window.
We've had an expected launch window for months.
Mossbag: “Pear shaped door frames”
Me: they’re violins… it’s silkSONG
12:04 I believe this sign is for the Bell Heap City, considering the shape of the buildings depicted on it, and also the use of musical note motifs around it, similar to the sign seen at 15:13
My favourite part is when Lace said the iconic line, "BLANK CELL (Wanderers/LACE_MEET_3)" and then BLANK CELL (Wanderers/LACE_MEET_3)ed all over everyone
This line is actually important since this means it's her third encounter with hornet
@@azeria1 the lines before are literally LACE_MEET_1 and LACE_MEET_2 so no (unless im misremembering the video like a dumbass LOL!)
Ok so what if the reason silksong is taking so long is because team cherry is constantly editing the game so that all of Mossbag's speculation and theories are right
It could be the reverse of that that
That's why sacrificng hm gets us the game, so they no longer have to chnge anything
sacrife sacrife sacrife
NO DONT SACRIFICE HIM
@@XavierCat i agree people have gone to far
Alright everyone you know the drill, grab his limbs and drag him to the sacrificial alter. We must sacrifice him to Team Cherry to get Silksong
I wonder if the people who were "escorting" Hornet got scattered across the land of pharloom as they fell, and the player finds them as a side quest, just because we don't see them near the cage where hornet landed, and if they were never seen again, it seems like a missed oportunity
6:25
You know...
E F# G E
EFFIGY
A sculptural representation of a specific person, or a prototypical figure.
Clever boys over the Cherry HQ.
I was looking for someone in the comments to mention the bell notes but I didn't think about this, that's pretty clever! I did notice though that those notes are actually a motif from hollow knight, E F# G E is the main melodic motif of the dirtmouth theme and it appears transposed into different keys many many times across the soundtrack such as the greenpath theme, the broken vessel fight theme, the hollow knight fight theme, and the abyss ascension theme
We've seen that the white flowers of the Grey Mourner have some sort of power related to, or similar to, that of the Pale King, and they seem to be able to counteract the Void in the godhome ending after giving one to the Godseeker. If the white flowers all over Pharloom are the same kind of flower, maybe they're the reason for the civilization of Pharloom existing, granting sentience to the bugs the same way the Pale King's presence did.
If the theory that those massive pipes are containing the roots of the original plant that makes these flowers, it could be a way for someone to potentially suppress their power or growth, keeping the bugs not totally mindless, but still subservient.
It could also be the exact opposite, though. Maybe the pipes are extracting something from this original plant and spreading it to expand the kingdom.
I'm not sure but i think they were confirmed to be different flowers
The pipes could also be to protect the roots from those who may sap it's power
Pharloom is in a far away land.
The events of Hallownest/void may have never reached that far out. This land however probably has its own problems!
@@ZamWeazle That's true, but "Pale Beings" and the importance of that kind of power are implied to be rules of the world, not just Hallownest
@@moth2120 But what is the "world".?
What a beautiful and poignant ending for this video, I'm in tears.
You have my like for even knowing the word poignant
@@justusP9101 Searching for words on Thesaurus late at night finally paid off!
Team Cherry: “Greymoor is the biggest area”
Mossbag: makes Greymoor the third biggest area (26:10)
In the original post, it merely says Greymoor is one of the biggest areas they've ever made.
Yeah its kinda Sus
Wow, I sure did enjoy watching this entire video and not just commenting the moment it’s posted!
They're apparently 4 parallel universes ahead of us
yes
The bugs Lace seems to "control" look somehwat like the ones we find around the White Palace and Monarch Wings, indicating she might be in service to a Wyrm / Pale Being.
That’s probably what the Voice that guy was following is, another pale being.
Kinda looks like the little bug that you can see flying away when you hear the seers final words
Wyrms might be extinct
@@serraramayfield9230 Well, Bardoons dialogue implies that Wyrms are extinct but doesn't confirm it (even though I think that was meant, too), but since Silksong is currently expected to be a Prequel Wyrms might still be around.
@@titangaming7915 Silksong isn't a prequel, Mossbag's video is wrong, and that French translation line isn't canon
I love the sheer amount of wild speculation that we're desperately grabbing at. that sounded derogatory, but I'm actually impressed how excited the community is for Silksong =D
I really appreciate the fact that mossbag points out the fact that it's all Maine, it's a detail most people don't notice but I can't wait to explore the depths of Bangor to the heights of the Bucksport.
I have a speculation that the bugs in Pharloom hate the Weavers that’s why you have to fight most npcs like the bell beast Also, like HK when we first meet Hornet we have to fight her then she becomes our ally.
No I don't think its weavers specifically. Its likely been in contact with cursed bugs of the citadel and is simply protecting itself.
Plus now it has to live in tunnels of bells due to them.
maybe the huge elevator that seems to go to the citadel collapses when it's first used, causing the Hornet to fall into the base of the citadel...? Maybe that's the way the player gets to the base of the citadel, or somewhere
else below
I used to regret sacrificing Mossbag but after reading the description no longer.
Next video: Developing a copy of Silksong to see if it's fun
I’m hyped for silk song but knowing me I’ll probably buy it day one and play a month later 💀
I'll probably buy it a month before and play it day one.
The internet's probably going to explode when it drops so it might be best to enjoy the heck out of it as soon as you can before everywhere is flooding with spoilers
@@scarabdust I'm going to have to stop going on the internet while I play the game
@@scarabdust yeah, literally the same thing happened with zelda tears of the kingdom
Its only been 2 weeks, 2 freaking weeks.
I feel like we haven’t seen all the new areas in Silksong yet. I believe we’ve seen about 12 main areas so far (although I could be wrong):
- Moss Grotto (clover sub-area)
- Deep Docks
- Forest of Bones
- Greymoor
- The Marrow
- Gilded City
- Shining Citadel (clock tower sub-area)
- Coral Forest
- Barnacle Area
- Forest Area
- Desert Area
- Swamp Area (temple sub-area)
Hollow Knight had 16 main areas if you count The White Palace and The Abyss, and if Silksong is supposedly bigger than Hollow Knight, there could still be a few areas that haven’t been shown yet.
I’d love to see a snow/ice-themed area, which could be near the top of the map and be the source of the water we see in areas like the Coral Forest, Barnacle Area and Moss Grotto.
Considering she's a far more fleshed out character than Ghost, Hornet's ascent upward may symbolically be her dealing with rediscovering herself after whatever happened to Hallownest.
Hey Mossbag don’t know if you’re reading this but congratulation on reaching your Kickstarter goal for titan shell I’m super excited to be back this project and I’m glad that you reach your goal. Keep on grinding man never give up don’t let anybody put you down also congratulations on 360,000 subscribers hopefully I can reach that goal like you did. That’s all I have to say have a nice day stay safe and enjoy life.
I dunno mossbag, I'm not sure we can trust that map. I could have sworn it vented in admin.
I just wanted to thank you again for the high quality videos, subtitles are so appreciated from your hearing impaired fans and your videos are always enjoyable, thank you!
The big bad could also be using the silk as a type of puppet strings and the silk pointing up could be a cut off with the silk retreating back towards big bad
God fucking dammit
He amogused us
HE PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
this is some pretty thorough work of the environment of silksong from the small amount of content we have right now!
other than that the description is sending me
Yo hot theory coming in: those giant roots might all the roots of a tree or large plant, that you later have to ascend outside the underground to get to the citadel. Would be a cool, provacative way of hinting at other worlds outside farloom and hallownest, just like how you are barely blocked off from entering the wastes in the howling cliffs by wind.
Team Cherry: “You’re trying to get me to reveal something. It won’t work.”
TeamCherry please release the game to save this man from madness
Too late!
every time moss exposes content from the trailer, team cherry has to rework the game to make things different
we MUST SACRIFICE HIM TO TEAM CHERRY TO APPEASE THEM SO THAT THEY MAY RELEASE SILK SONG
love hornet's goofy crawl at 8:20
Team Cherry: ready to release Silksong
mossbag: makes entire video about what the map could look like
Team Cherry: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN
*Silksong release pushed back even further to update the map*
This was my favourite end to a video of yours, thank you, Mr. Bag.
whenever i hear sherma's name i just think of jerma
I thunk the use of "may" in the description of Hornet getting to Greymoor doesn't mean you don't have to go there, but that you don't have to enter from that particular area. Since Greymoor is massive it likely has entrances to several other locations that you could find first.
My best bet as far as plot goes is that Silksong's big bad controls bugs through silk, like puppets. This silk is harvested from Weavers, which is why the Weavers had to leave Farloom, why Hornet was captured, and why Lace attempts to kill Hornet (who intends to go to the capital, right into the enemy's hands). I'm not sure how the "song" part plays (hah) in, maybe specific songs affect bugs in different ways?
9:19 R.I.P knight, you will be missed
i feel at the top of everything we gnn find some sort of key to open doors at the starting area to face the final bosses. Maybe the game wont stop even when u finish climbing and defeating last boss maybe a twist or something.
0:37
Mossbag you just gave me PTSD flashbacks
Woah.. that map is so detailed
The di es ire/the tune that plays after a boss is defeated is kinda like the one that plays in hk after a boss that plays before the cage spikes open
I thought we already sacrificed this guy?
No, Bad fan, down! That's a no no. We can't let Team Cherry turn us into a cult.
Not yet
I don't think you fight shakra, rather she guards the entrance to an area, maybe a shop area of sorts, and you have to have a certain item to be let through, kind of like a combination between the elder baldur in greenpath, and the knight statue blocking the city of tears
the thing that not all maps in the game have not yet all been shown scares me ...
19:24 -- Shown during his statement, what looks like water is seen pouring from some platforms. Might not be the source of Greymore's/"Barnacle Area"'s water/rain, but still.
I know plenty of people have done it already haha but I just beat Pantheon of Hallownest today, and I couldn't be happier
Congrats!
Can you release the game please
I'll make some calls...
How do you even make comments? Youre a duck
i agree
@@mossbag69 cool
@@mossbag69 we are waiting man
9:33 my favorite part of the game is when lace said "its BLANK CELLIN' Time" and wandered/laced all over the _meet_3
16:59 Plants can have a fibrous (thin whispy strands of root) or a taproot (one big root with small wisps coming out of it) system of roots. It looks to me like those background roots might be taproots. Taproots are common in Dicot flowers. So perhaps these are roots for really big flowers somewhere above?
that man made a 26 minute video just to end it with a amogus meme
A true Legend
4:17 this game would be quite short if the needle didn't miss hornet's head
As an active resident of Maine I can confirm that greymoor is right down the street
The ending violently slaughtered me. I've been murdered. I'm dead. Pay for my funeral.
mossbag out here bouta know all the lore before the game is even out
puffymantella from reddit
@@jellyno1946 perhaps, or perhaps not
@@puffymantella46 the one who is everywhere and is now on youtube too
@@jellyno1946 always has been, you may also find me on a few other platforms as well
10:16 NOOOOO NOT THE TACO BELLLLLLL
24:41 I LOVE this theory! It's an explanation for both the "pipes" and the final boss of the game! Lovely
Me: Silksong is my favorite game!
Team cherry: the game is not even out yet…
Me: I don’t care
40 seconds in and we get a reference to the infamous zootopia fan comic, thanks mossbag 👍
The black ball enemies are most likely a form of void construct considering that a fraction of its death animation can be seen in which it darkens completely and starts to dissolve into black balls.
the pipes through the citadel being for vines, up to the summit of the city in that giant sphere. it makes me think the top of the citadel is holding a bulb for a great flower perhaps. maybe the pipes and the summit will crack apart, revealing the flower and vines. thats a good image. also shout out to you being on tenma's channel. wasnt expecting you to be teaming with vtubers, especially menhera central phase connect.
I cant believe we already had the silksong map for so long and we didn't even notice
I’m scared to watch this bc Im worried it may be so accurate it’d spoil the game
Don't you mean the fever dream? There is no game! 😆
I recommend this channel to others by telling them that each video is simply 20-80 minutes of a being made of pure, crystallized bathos squeezing many litres of blood from a modestly-sized turnip.
This game is going to be fantastic. The reason its taking so long is because team cherry know it has to be perfect to not seem like a dissapointment compared tp hollow knight
GORB IS INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA OF YOU HAVING THIS ABILITY TO FIND LORE SO EASILY, SURLY YOU HAVE A TRICK UP YOUR SLEVE!
I've been laughing ever since the video ended. You're brilliant.
When silksong is out I won't accept it, we need to continue waiting, to wait and wait, until death
"Strap in boys we are going to learn about candle lore"
HELL YEAHHHHHH