BEST Time to Take HCl, Ox Bile, TUDCA, Enzymes, and Bitters
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Betaine HCl, Ox bile, TUDCA, digestive enzymes, and digestive bitters are great tools for improving digestion. And, because of this, they can ease symptoms of IBS and/or SIBO such as bloating, postprandial (post-meal) fullness, abdominal pain, abdominal distention, indigestion, and fat malabsorption. But, how do you use these supplements? And when is the best time to take them? With a meal or before a meal? Do you really need to take enzymes 15 minutes before your first bite of food? And if so, does the same apply to something like bile or betaine HCl? Stay tuned if you want to learn the deets! ;)
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Dr. Nicole DiNezza, DC, NTP
Holly Springs, NC
As ox bile's role is to neutralize stomach acid, and if you take it 10-15' before a meal, won't it alkanize the stomach for the food to come?
YES IT WILL. thats why i take it 1.5-2 hrs after a meal. its way too strong on an empty stomach.
I think it makes sense to take ox bile first, followed by HCL. Correct me if I’m wrong but it makes sense.
Always wait hours to take oxbile after meals or it's a completely pointless doing it
Tudca can be used during meals to help and will not neutralize ph levels
I’ve done lots of research and you should be taking TUDCA on an empty stomach or in between meals and you should be taking ox bile on an empty stomach or at least an hour AFTER meals. We need acidity in our stomach during meals and digestion THEN you want to add alkaline(ox bile) after so they (acidity & alkaline) can basically combust together in your stomach. I also wouldn’t consider TUDCA and ox bile “digestive enzymes” as they help get the bile flow moving but I don’t think they work like a digestive enzyme. But what do I know……..
@@4elizabeth100% right. She’s soooo off wow
Your videos are soo helpful in contrast with others who make it difficult to understand what they are saying. I could listen to you all day long and learn a lot about my body in a way where I feel more of a sense of awe and a feeling of some control and caring. Thank you!
Well this is mostly wrong here is the correct way:
Hcl before 1st bite
Ox bile 2hrs after meal
Enzymes and bitters before meal 10 minutes
So i have zero stomach acid and the second i bite food i would get insanely loud hiccups signifying that i had no acid in stomach
When i take hcl i will not hiccup and i noticed that if i did not take enough hcl i would start hiccuping in the middle of the meal and if i take more hcl i would instantly stop hiccuping
Tudca can be take at any point it will not neutralize acids i still prefer to take it with my artichoke tea after meals 2-hour wait
Tudca is what you need to reduce bile sludge not bile I learned the hard way that this has to do with the pancreas, not the liver , tudca severally hurts me when i take it as it's detoxing pancreas
I detox liver and still had bile sludge preventing gallbladder from working correctly
Im at month 3 of tudca and barely starting to heal pancreas enough to reduce Bile sludge by itself
so you take ox bile and tudca 2 hours after the meal..?
what do you mean that tucda hurts you?
I take ox bile 2h after my meal so that my hcl has enough time to acidify. I had terrible heart racing episodes every night and now after taking my ox bile after every meal, it's 90% gone
wow same. i thought i was imagining it. crazy stuff.
You need potassium
@@ra9552she’s way off 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Right after meal or 2h after meal?
@@hawk_1234 2hrs
This is SO helpful and SO needed. I LOVE Betaine HCI. It has helped me TREMENDOUSLY in this GI/SIBO/Gut dysbiosis journey. I also use with Digestive Enzymes and Ox Bile. Still, it is good to know balance and getting the best benefit. Thank you Dr. D!! ❤🙏😃
when u take betaini HCL and Ox bile??
Does HCL helps with depression 😢😢😢😢?
This information is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. I will watch more videos on your channel.
Fantastic job as always! & happy belated BIRTHDAY! 🎉
Great job as always. Happy belated BD!!
Well explained. Thanks.
I have a naturopath ….. but nothing is helping my gastroparesis, colitis, crohns, leaky gut….i have done cleansing for decades…..now it seems even if i wait everything is in the stomach at the same time…..thank you
Does Dr.Dinezza answer anyone’s questions?
how do you find your clients with hpylori do with taking the betaine HCL ?
can you take a prokenetic with oxbile or tudca? if so, how to space them from each other? PLEASE AND THANK YOU
If you’re a diabetic, and your liver is getting clogged up and then your gallbladder doesn’t work and they remove your gallbladder, but your liver is still gummed up and not producing the bile, it’s a much bigger problem, and it’s not solved as easy as just taking these, I think, and as far as my body is concerned, I will be on these periodically for the rest of my life if I noticed that either, I have abdominal up right quadrant I know my liver is having problems. If I see my stool is lightning I know my liver is having problems. If I see floating oil I know my liver is having problems if I see undigested food particles now that can be the pancreas because that’s more enzyme related than the bile related, this is a long process
How much bitters? Being it comes in a dropper ?
I don't have a gallbladder. I have Hashimoto Disease, hypothyroidism, and pre-diabetes. I have been bloated for a while. I recently started taking Bile Salt. I take 2 pills at a time. It appears to be working. I'm constantly searching for information to educate and help myself.
Thanks to your video, I know I should take it 15 mins before a meal. Is there anything else you recommend for my situation?
How to know when too much hci is enough
As a carnivore I still get acid reflux with no gallbladder. I'm trying HCL before meals is this a good idea? 🤔 Thank you.🙂
can you help me? answer some questions.
First off, great video. What would you recommend to increase stomach acid production if you have peptic ulcers and betaine is not really an option?
Do you see local patients? I'm in Chapel Hill, I understand you're just south of where I'm at, both my wife and I have been suffering from gut issues since college. I kinda wonder if NCSU's dining halls have properly cooked food lol...
Hi Dr Dinezza, will taking tudca reduce my bodies own ability to produce it? (I have low faecal elastase)
Could you make a video about urinary tract infection and the link with the gut please ? I found nothing about this on the web
Hello, look into supplement D-Monnose for reoccurring UTI!
My stomach acid was zero due to h pylori and sibo which ive handled naturally. When i take hcl you get heart birn a bit. So im thinking im now making stomach acid with hcl but maybe not enough to close the valve? ??? Should i up on hcl pill or lower?
I can eat a lot of betane hcl and feels nothing 🥴🥴 its not working or killing anything for me...why?
What dosage? You may need a higher dose than on bottle of betaine HCL if your stomach acid is too low, and then over time would reduce it as the stomach acidifies.
Every time I have tried oxbile it made me nauseous
Perhaps you don’t need it, or you are taking too much… dosage is important
Is the magnesium stearate in Tudca safe?
this is a filler in almost all supplements..
Well i guess HCL doesn't kill you but i've read it must be used sparingly, wouldn't want to be burning holes in the stomach, not a good look?
Most ulcers are Not caused by excessive production of stomach acid during or immediately after a meal. The food in the stomach somewhat buffers the stomach acidity which is needed in the stomach to digest food, breakdown the peptide bonds in the protein in the food and also to absorb minerals. Most ulcers are caused by H. Pylori organism inhabiting the gut.
@@milycome I have an ulcer. Did endoscopy and colonoscopy. Biopsies done. Results are H. Pylori negative. I had done all the blood tests, stool test and breath test. The results came negative for SIBO and h.pylori.
@@milycome
Before you start taking HCL don’t you need to make sure your gallbladder is secreting enough bile to protect your intestine from HCL?
@@LauraMogollon-je6jj Whether you take HCL as a supplement or your stomach produces sufficient HCL the small intestines is the area where this acidity gets neutralized by bile acids and even more so by sodium bicarbonate. Yes, your own body produces sodium bicarbonate to neutralize stomach acid after it leaves the stomach. In a perfect world the body does this unassisted by nutritional supplements. How do you know if your stomach is producing enough acid, or your gallbladder is releasing sufficient bile acids, or your body is producing enough sodium bicarbonate and releasing it in the small intestines ??
You would have to go and receive a battery of tests to determine this. One additional important factor that I need to mention is the pancreas producing enough digestive enzymes to break down and digest the proteins, carbohydrates, and fats for the body to absorb and assimilate. Digestive Enzymes need an alkaline environment to function properly which the sodium bicarbonate provides in the small intestines. I haven't done the plethora of tests to determine if I need assistance in this complicated process. What I do instead is to provide my body insurance in the form of supplements. This is a bit costly. I intermittent fast each day. I eat one meal each day, or sometimes 1 and half meals a day, one meal and one snack. At the start of my meal or in the middle of my meal I take one HCL capsule to insure I have sufficient acid in my stomach . When I finish my meal I look at the clock and notice what time I have finished my one meal for the day. Approximately two hours after finishing my meal when the food in the stomach is about to empty out, or has just recently emptied out, I take one quarter of a teaspoon of powdered sodium bicarbonate dissolved in a small amount of water along with one bile acid capsule and one capsule of pancreatic digestive enzymes. Dr. Berg, I believe, suggests about a two hour wait time from the acidic stomach acid upon first eating, to a subsequent alkalizing of the gut with powered sodium bicarbonate with the addition of bile acids , if needed, and pancreatic digestive enzymes taken, if needed, in an alkaline environment where the digestive enzymes function properly. As an alternative some pancreatic digestive enzyme supplements are enteric coated for the purposes of Not breaking down immediately in the stomach and break down further down the digestive tract where they can function properly in an alkaline environment. These enteric coated tablets can be taken with HCL at the beginning of the meal. The timing of these supplements are Not always properly indicated by the manufacturer on the label. For instance, one manufacturer suggesting their non-enteric coated digestive enzyme tablet be taken a half hour Before (????) the meal. I'm a bit puzzled by this timing suggestion. If the pancreatic digestive enzyme supplement is enteric coated (then, Yes it could be taken with a meal ), because it will Not be broken down in the stomach, but further down the digestive tract. But if the digestive enzyme is Not enteric coated then I think it would behoove the individual to take it two or two and a half hours after the meal (and maybe with a very small amount of powered bicarbonate of soda dissolved in a small amount of water to further insure alkalinity for the digestive enzymes to function properly). Finally, the risk of too much acid in the stomach burning a hole in your stomach or causing an ulcer may be real, but very small. First of all the food in your stomach somewhat is a buffer against the acid normally produced in the stomach. Secondly, it has now been shown that the large majority of ulcers are Not the result of excessive acid production, but is usually caused by a bacteria called H. Pylori which if present and if in excess needs to be dealt with medically. To prevent ulcers the presence of H.Pylori should be investigated to determine if there is H.Pylori present. Do the research. Type in the Google address bar : H.Pylori and ulcers. Then press Enter or click on the magnifying glass 🔎🔎🔎🔎🔎. Read all the articles - keep scrolling down for more information.