Understanding the Central Problems of Balochistan - Rafiullah Kakar -
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- Rafiullah Kakar is a Public policy and development specialist from Balochistan, he comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Central Problems of Balochistan, on this episode we talk about Pushtoons in Balochistan, the Annexation of Kalat, the Sardari System, Colonialism, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Constitution, General Pervez Musharraf, Murder of Akbar Bugti, Baloch Insurgency, Sardar Akhtar Mengal, Urbanization, CPEC and more.
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
2:30 Pushtoons in Balochistan
6:24 Annexation of Kalat
8:42 How Baloch Sardari system was created
18:51 Balochistan’s Central Problems
26:02 Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Balochistan and The Constitution
35:00 Representation of Balochistan
42:21 Musharaf’s murder of Akbar Bugti and changing nature of Baloch Insurgency
51:30 Sardar Akhtar Mengal’s Issues
53:00 Urbanization of Baloch Insurgency and Missing Persons
1:02:30 Relationship of Balochistan with Pakistan Proper
1:08:00 CPEC
1:17:00 Audience Questions - Zábava
One of the finest minds of Balochistan, I am a nationalist baloch and i do not have any reservations on him representing Balochistan. I fully support him trusting and believing on his knowledge and rsearch.
Today the world is developing day by day see the quality life of Balochistan people they are living very bad quality of life because of Pakistan.. love from India for Balochistan 🇮🇳
May this love of acceptance flourish with times.
@@ShivamKumar-89SK Shouldn't you worry about your own Bimaru states? Jharkand and Nagaland has camps for people while women get raped. Please provide justice for them.
You must hate Punjabi people
He has got immense insight into the problems of Balochistan. Thanks for inviting such an intellectual to your podcast from the far-flung area of Balochistan. 🥰
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It's the quality of his knowledge and the patience with which he explains. Amazing scholar and very thoughtful answers by the gentleman
beautifully explained - what political returns will be made to the kind of investment required to appease that electorate?
This is what dirty politics is all about everywhere !
This individual has beautifully depicted a vivid image of Balochistan, and it brings great joy to witness such intellectual insight.
Thank God . please invite more guests like him . balochistan issue must be discuss more and more
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This man is brilliant.He is authority on contemporary Balochistan
Yes!
Surely, one of TPE's best podcast episodes. Voice of reason, spoken in a moderate way.
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Ine today we can see the world is developing day by day but Pakistan is the reason behind the low quality of Balochistan😢... Hope one day Balochistan will free just like Bangladesh
Very happy to see such sincere people's podcast in Pakistan. At least Pakistan should listen and learn from them
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Those who refuse to learn from History are doomed to Repeat it .
Yes
Pakistan is basically " Punjabistan" with feudal/imperial control over Balochistan and Pakhtoonkhwa.
General Tikka Khan was " Butcher of Bengal" whom Bhutto then sent to Balochistan to attempt a brutal genocide of baloch.
So true
@@ThePakistanExperience Shehzad bhai we challenge you to bring the Baloch activist girl Mahrang Baloch interviewed by Fiza Khan on your podcast.......
It's the quality of his knowledge and the patience with which he explains. Amazing scholar and very thoughtful answers by the gentleman
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Pakistan problems can be solved by dialogue and awareness.Really appreciating podcast.
What a guy! I can only imagine how many books he has read. No wonder he's a Rhodes Scholar. Great podcast Shehzad.
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Finally an episode on Balochistan
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Man this Islamabad season is in its league of its own, the issues that are discussed are so wide in horizon and deep in understanding that is truly challenging to the status quo understanding of common men. Thanku everyone who joined this for breaking majority myths !!
Thanks for talking about Balochistan.
Raffiullah is great researcher.
Hope for the best❤
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PM kakar and Rafiullah Kakar are at 360 degree.
Great love from all Baloch side❤❤❤for both of you.
India needs such deep, intellectual, non-biased fact based podcasts which are away from commercial bullsh*t and cater to only factual conversation about interesting, important topics about the country.
@@jang-e-bahadur well pakistan has to tell many lies to build its national identity thats why and also these kind of discussion are very mainstream in india and are done in Lower house and upper house of parliament
@@futurecorpse4935nailed it bro 😂
You do realise that even this stream is censored ?ever form of media is controlled by isi…
Yessssss you asked my question 😭! Honestly TPE Quetta would be amazing. You could do a podcast for the Baloch, Pashtuns and Hazaras particularly the new generation in the rights movements
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Thoroughly enjoyed it, hope "Pakistan Proper" is soaking up all of this, especially the bois.
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After watching this vlog I have changed my mind about balochistan and I’m not even a Balochi. Their struggle will expand to other states and the youth will make sure they get what they deserve. We are seeing that in 1st world countries. So the people of Pakistan have a bigger enemy that’s the establishment.
Sir kakar I'm baloch and all baloch salute you my lord
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I was waiting very eagerly for this Podcast.❤
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Excellent TPE episode! Can completely understand what are the issues! The tales of insurgency are so similar across the world!
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This debate is a Breath of Fresh Air. Dr Rafiullah Kakar is pride of our nation.
He is right Imperial Patronage been replaced by Army Patronage.
Insightful, Immersive and Intuitive. More power and prowess to you folks
What an insightful man, learned so much from this podcast!
Thank you so much Shehzad. It's a very enlightening episode. Best information one can find on Balochistan to fully understand the Balochistan problem and it is a Balochistan 101 in my opinion. 🙏
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One of the best! Rafi kakar brilliant analysis as usual
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Learned so much,
Thankyou🙂
what brilliant man he is❤❤
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1:01:00 Excellent point ("Hum jo ker rahay haiN wo theek hay, wo jo ker rahay haiN wo to ghadar haiN")
A brilliant guest. There is hope for Pakistan.
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As usual. A masterpiece!! Soo much to learn from it
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Good one! 👍 We just hope this problem gets resolved as soon as possible. Got some really good and cooperative Baloch colleagues…and this is a sad state of affairs!
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Great work janab. Highly informative episode on such a sensitive issue.
More intresting than a Netflix movie ❤
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Very well conducted interview and a very intelligent guest. Thanks for brining him in the show.
What an informative podcast. Thank you both
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This is the best podcast to understand what are the problems of Balochistan and what are possible solutions !
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Excellent and very insightful podcast even for someone like me who is from Balochistan that pondered long on a viable solution to our problems.
Pashtoon Gem of Balochistan.loveed this pod cast.
He is my relative. Proud of him! ❤
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KA : you are very rightly proud! He is an enviable person!
Not only Balochistan, but all over Other provinces have to be broken down into smaller provinces. Distribution of NFC will be more appropriate and the chances are brighter for fair distribution of resources down to the people. This will change bureaucracy dynamics, standards and expertise as well. At the same time public accountability would be more transparent
Beautiful podcast. Thank you for introducing a gem like Rafiullah Kakar to those of us who did not know of him.
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totally agree, this was very eye-opening podcast ,
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This was an eye opener, he was brilliant and laid out everything clearly, you were a great host too,Thank you for this.
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Such a detailed analysis of balochistan was missing and im glad you call the right person to talk about it.
How clear, articulate and sequenced his thoughts are? Wow.
Very nice and informative..
We in India can relate with the issues..
May peace be with Pakistan.
What a beautiful, logically clear and analytically sound interview. The best till yet on Pakistan experience. Simply wow.
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An educational podcast. Thank you Kakar sahb.
Thanks for helping us/me understand Balochistan from the basics!!! Suddenly the whole issue is making a lot of sense!!! Glad you decided to go this route Shehzad bhai...if nothing...we get educated!!❤
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Totally agree, explained honestly and clearly Balochistan issue.
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Eye opener.
Jazakallah!
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Sub se pehle to late congrats on new interior ! Now it's fun to watch! Must to have soft lighting and background for especially long conversations! 🎉
Thank you so much Rafiullah kakar and TPE
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Highly educational. A must see talk!
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Been following his columns from a long time and always wondered why isn’t he in the limelight despite such eloquence (in writing/ now in speech) and clarity of thought. Today I feel satiated after finding him here and seeing all these viewers commenting and praising him. Thank you Shehzad 🙏
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Beautifully explained in a very simple manner the complexities of Balochistan.
*Human Rights cannot be selective.*
*7k+ Baluch massacred/killed by Pakistan Army in Pakistan were also humans.*
According to the Voice for Baloch Missing Persons (VBMP), there are more than 7,000 missing persons from Balochistan. However, the Commission of Inquiry on Enforced Disappearances says there are just 454 active cases from Balochistan as of October 2023
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But for a state culture and religious political ideology this is normal. See the 1400 years history of Islam...it never cared by people lives or any morals
Also, the claim of PK in international platforms that 75,000 Pakistanis sanctified their lives in " war of Terror" etc are actually 75,000 Pathans who were killed by the Punjabi army bombing of KPK FATA under the pretense of finding Osama ( found in Abbottabad near army cantonment) and killing bad Taliban, etc. All these bombings were done to kick Pashtun civilians out of their areas and move to Afghanistan, Quetta or Karachi. Now Pashtun population of KPK is replaced by trained terrorists from Yemen, Punjab, India, Bangladesh, Iraq, Somalia, and Sudan. Displaced Pashtuns are having a tough time in Karachi, and Quetta. The local Sinfhis hate Pashtun immigrants and this how Army will control Karachi by igniting riots between them .
*The One and only solution for Liberation of Balochistan is*
*Non-stop Movements from All sides of Pakistan -East (Baloch),West(Gilgit Baltistan),South (Sindhi) & from North(Pashtun) at one time*
@@sabrinakhan8217I’m Pakhtun and what you have written is absolute BS
I was waiting for this video.
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Shezad 👍 even prior to watching your podcast. All the best my friend.
PS: Must share this with you. Years ago while working in the Middle East my driver was a Baluchi. Honest and forthright to the core. Simple and a great human.
My Lahori colleagues on the contrary, I, found a shade intriguing but comic too. Loved their Punjabi dialect though.
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Islam prohibits you to befriend kaffirz
Great effort to educate public about real Baloch issue.
Well done!
Few questions...
1- Why resist administrative subsivision of Balochistan, Punjab, and Sindh that will elimInate hegemony of bigger populus centers.
2- Why protect the wrong doing and corruption of Baloch Sardars in the name of tradition?
Stand up for justice for all including minorities of Balochistan.
3- Why resisting population influx into Balochistan and killing migrant workers from Punjab who are powerless and came to earn only rizque-Halal?
Sindh and Bhuttos caused most of your pain. Why misplaced anger on Punjabis?
4- Are Baloch any less businessmen than other Pakistanis? Why only support smuggling and not practicing open market business model.?
5- If population-based representation is innevitable for PK federation then Why not invite All Pakistanis to come to Balochistan that will increase number of seats, NFC award, and will bring new ideas, technology, and education to Balochis.
6- Why not resisting those Sardars who are expolitive of local scene but present themselves as saviors of Baloch interest in Islamabad. Same $ardars are compromi$ed for personal interest and then badname Punjab through misinformation.
7- Why not demanding stop to Afghan free trade corrider and Only do legit business with Afghanistan and Iran?
8- What stopped you from getting trained to develop your own gems, minerals and resources?
Why getting armed traing from Afghans and Indian to just blow up carvans?
Same TNT or C4 can bring you fortune from mineral deposites.
If Pakistan really denied you the knowledge for gems and gemology then why not getting international training from abroad?
Why not developing Baloch youth resources to lead an effort to develope their own province?
Why only hatered and violence?
Please stop dealing with corrupt establishment and political elite and instead reachout to awaam of Karachi & Lahore to welcome your welwishers and not your exploiters.
Try Lahore streets and not the assembly halls.
In short, open your hearts, minds, and land for other Pakistanis.
What a thorough explanation of Baloch issues. Thank you for inviting such a knowledgeable guest, this entire podcast was a treat to watch.
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One of the very informative, and fact based Podcasts. Thank you so much dear Shehzad for producing such a content, which is very beneficial for us distinguish between the fake and real facts. How the Mr. Rafiullah Karar Sahab, decode the intractable issue of #Balochistan, it's unprecedented, he explained very simply and with valid arguments. After watching this podcast, it made me the biggest fan of Kakar Sahab. Thanks for demystifying my notions about Balochistan. Thanks.
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The most educated person I have seen so far on Baluchistan issues such as a strong command of the Baluchistan political system.
Wow amazing such productive discussion Rafiullah kakar a very wise sound of Balochistan.
Can't believe this is the first time I'm listening to Rafiullah. The knowledge, comprehension of the issues and pragmatic approach of this guy is simply brilliant.
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Zabardast podcast. Totally loved it.
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Mind blowing very informative broadcast..
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What a great guest; A man with blend of intellect, honesty, and deep research about the dynamics of Pakistan, particularly Balochistan. Listening to such guests is always a time worth it!
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Very crystal and clear explanation of the whole Balochistan issue.
Such an insightful podcast
Very insightful
A learned discussion, thumbs up
One of the best episode. Please invite Mr Kakar on regular basis so the masses in Pakistan and around the world know the actual demographic, social and political situation of Balochistan.
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Today, KPK are mainstream and even want to lead. What a positive thing. Isn't it. Hope / wish one day same would be with Baluchistan - being mainstream and even leading.
Being a baloch I think he advocated the issue of balochistan really well
What a learned guy kakar saab is with crystal clear concept of real issues and geniune solution to them
Really knowledgeable guest.. Glad to see such people being highlighted and sharing the genuine issues of balochistan
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I watched almost all your podcast but liked this one. Really appreciate it
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What a demeanour he maintained through out the podcast, hats off to him and love the way he spoke and delivered the arguments.
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More power to Rafi sahib! Excellent podcast.
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Amazing episode. So much to learn from this episode.
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Thank you for an amazing podcast. The guest Mr. Rafiullah Kakar is amazing and has such a clarity of thoughts, impressive. Hope you become leader of Pakistan instead of cricketers and industrialists and wadeeras etc etc (though that is a wishfull thinking, but wishing good is never bad). May he has a long and successful life.
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Very informative and helpful conversation. I hope sanity prevails in our power corridors.
What a fluent and thoughtful spekar #Rafiullah Kakar is. completely different approach in understanding the problems. Great podcast Shahzad bhai
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Good debate on technical issues.
a great academic analysis, fact based, w/solutions, need mind-set & willingness #Balochistan
thank you Karkar saab, manana
thanks to the host.
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An excellent discussion. Kakar sahib has an immense knowledge about Balochistan's political issues.
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Truly great and eye opening work
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An intellectual insight to the Balochistan issues, hope to go through the books recommended by Rafiullah Kalar, really appreciated
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Simple, subtle and superb
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Excellent programme as usual 👍
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Best episode ❤
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Always find your podcasts insightful and much comprehensive narratives can be learned from these in contrast to mainstream media. Do you make these available on spotify also?
Yes, usually but Spotify podcasts isn’t available in Pakistan
Oh ok, hm Tou bs 😞
Amazing podcast, beautifully summarized the whole issue in such a short time span! What an intellect. Kudos!
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Assalam o aliekum
MA SHA ALLAH
RafiULAH Kakar is extremely an intellectual person
Proud on you Kakar saab
One of the best podcasts I have ever heard. Great job Rafiullah and Shehzad.
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Always in awe of Rafiullah Kakar, one of the best ones.
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i like the term : PROPER PAKISTAN"
Same
Impressed by guest knowledge.
Amazing analysis very informative really enjoyed the historical and cultural context and nuanced analysis
Also the brilliant guest was a breath of fresh air after the last podcast 🤪
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