The New SawStop Compact Table Saw Might Have a BIG PROBLEM | First Impressions Review
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- The newly released SawStop Compact Table Saw has a potentially serious flaw if you care about accuracy. In this video, I am unboxing and giving my first impression review of the Sawstop CTS-120A60. What do you think of this saw? Amazon and other affiliate links are used in this description and help support this channel.
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Hey outlaw! I went with the 10 inch Skil and I love it! I've been using it now for about 3 weeks and there is only one issue I found on it and I was wondering if you noticed it on the one you had. There is a low spot near the blade on the fence side. Its about the size of a hand and goes from the throat plate and slowly tappers up to the miter slot.
looks like you didn't mentioned that compact 10 doesn't take dado blades. Just because it's too small (SawStop thoughts) and doesnt work with dado break.
Bit on the pricey side but I would absolutely consider it except for that much play when the fence is extended out fully. Will be waiting for your full review to see what the company has to say about it. Surely there will be a fix or adjustment that will take care of that issue. They do have a good reputation other than the costs.
I have very limiited shop space at the moment, and jobsite class table saws are my best use of space until my building expansion takes place. I would love to have the added safety factor of the SawStop, especially as I am introducing my nephews to the woodworking craft. I'll be watching for your full review video, to see if if the engineering team at SawStop replies with a reasonable solution. Thank you, Matt, for spending your hard and well earned money to buy these tools to provide independent reviews.
1st generation model problems. Thanks so much for this video review, I will hold onto my Dewalt until they fix the fence issue.
I have the Dewalt. They should look into the Dewalt. It's pretty solid on the extension. I will wait a bit more until I get that one, so all the issues have been resolved.
Hi Matt…..I am really enjoying this channel. I recently had a chance to test run the new Dewalt….definitely a great saw and I like the 32.5” rip capacity. I was shocked to see this flaw in the sawstop, as I was considering purchasing this over the Dewalt for the safety feature. I have noticed Bosch has come out with a similar safety featured saw as sawstop, but it is considerably more expensive. I think I am going to go with the Dewalt for the portability and function. For my shop I am seriously considering replacing my RIGID with a sawstop similar to your gift….lol!!!!!!
The highest case-based scenario I would put my jobsite saw on would be a finished shelf that needs resized. That's the litmus test. Anything else, I'm going to the track-saw for the unbeatable accuracy. Each tool has it's limitations. Some can push the envelope a bit more than others but that grey area is still there regardless. Looking forward to getting this saw and putting it through it's paces.
I don't think it would be a major issue for me since I would primarily use the table saw to rip narrow stock and cut fast tenons. If the table is accurate for 300 mm / 12 inch rips or less, then it'll excel in its purpose. Ripping wide stock is a job for the track saw with parallel or table guides.
Thank you for the unpacking, that will definitely be an issue, stay safe happy and healthy from Henrico County Virginia
Would love to see a demo on how you adjusted the Fence. I have the same problem but can't see any way to permanently adjust the fence and keep it parallel to the blade.
Like others I have the DeWalt Job site saw which the Concord Carpenter calls the Cadillac of jobsite table saws...and for good reason. It is super easy to adjust for accuracy and will run all day. Sawstop better fix this issue because from what I understand Sawstop's patent on their technology expires this year, and if other manufacturers can produce a better product at a lower price, they will lose a ton of business.
Will Bosch go this route again? Lol.
That's a bit complicated. There
are several sawstop patents involved in the safety features they employ. Some of them are expiring this year, some of them already expired, and a couple aren't set to expire until late 2024. As I understand it it''s POSSIBLE someone pay be able to replicate the technology without the aspects of the design that are still under patent, but most likely, it'll be after 2024 before competitors can start using this feature.
@@jungleman6of9 Great insight
Well, it depends on the usage model. I find large wide cuts on my Skil job site table saw very ackward. And I cannot get the mitre slot to line up parrallel with the blade. So I am not happy. I should have bought a Sawstop to begin with three years ago when I started into woodworking. If you are NOT cutting large sheets, and only use it occasionally, then the extension issue is not going to affect you in my opinion. The price is a non issue compared to getting a finger re-attached. It just depends on how confident one is and how much risk taking you want to take. Far more important to me is how easy and how accurately aligning the miter slot and fence are to the blade and how long that adjustment lasts. On the Skil, like I said above, impossible on the miter fence and very difficult to do. Thanks for another of your no nonsense reviews and videos.
I would love to see a head-to-head comparison of the fence on this saw with the Dewalt equivalent saw.
I noticed at 6:56 when you lay your hand on it, the fence rack moves a bit. Looks like the up and down movement from full extension make come from a loose screw on the left hand side. worth checking out
Thanks for sharing. I think I will wait till they get the bugs worked out
Hola! 🖐Thanks for taking the time and the effort to share this information. Although I in not in the market for this saw anytime soon (I have the Bosch and love it) plus I'm a novice, I'm learning and familiarizing myself with what's out in the market through your content and I really appreciate that. Keep up the nice work good sir 👏Take care and have good one, Adios! 👊
Great review!
Can you connect it to the DeWalt DE7400-XJ Industrial Universal Table Saw Stand with Wheels?
So I have this new sawstop saw, my prior saw was a Dewalt with a similar rack and pinion fence system. When my Dewalt was at full extension there was zero play in the vertical. The difference between the two is that the Dewalt has a plastic square support rail fastened to the saw body that fits inside of the extendable aluminum outer fence arm. I definitely agree that for 1200$(CAD) it shouldn’t have that issue. But also I feel like that’s the first project that I will be working on either by designing something I can 3d print or making it from hardwood.
I have been looking at this saw quite seriously, my shop is my living room so space is extremely limited and a cross cut sled is the reason why I want a table saw and this would work great in my shop which has absolutely no floor space left for tools hahaha. I'll be storing tools in my kitchen soon.
No go for me because of the fence issue. That would certainly cause a binding issue.
Guess I’m going to go ahead and hammer on my pocketbook and get the CTS. Thank you sir for your utohh moment.
I have been testing the saw out for a week now and this "issue" actually is not an issue. Its designed to have a little play if you lift up on the fence. There is 0 downward play on this fence which is the only thing that is important. Unless a small child or animal walks underneath the saw while your cutting and lifts up thier head and bumps the fence, then i guess it would possibly be a flaw.
Is there play in the fence when it's locked down? That isn't made clear.
@@ThekiBoran jut if you lift up on the fence rails it moves upward. There is no play at all when you push down on the fence and no play when you push left or right on the fence. So in the end, this really isn’t play or a weak link it’s just the way it’s made.
@@DoingitWithjason the same could be send of the dewalt and skil saws, if you push down on any of their fences, they won't flex. If you push up, then they all will slightly
@gae true but I think it’s important to consider the application of this saw over a larger one and how it compares to saws in the same class. If I would cutting panels 24” wide on a consistent basis, I wouldn’t want this saw or similar in the first place. The max rip capacity is for the times when you infrequently need it rather than when you consistently need it. For my applications, I would use a track saw for cuts wider than 18” because it’s unwieldy for this saw in the first place.
@gae This conversation, not just ours but the general conversation, reminds me of those house hunting shows where a couple wants all these features BUT on their budget. Reality often hits them and they realize what’s realistic. Some people have to realize the inherent limitations of their demands on a specific genre of machines and perhaps understand their needs won’t be met with a tiny saw. I use a track saw/portable table saw combo because I recognize the limitations of each tool. I had hoped my track saw could do everything a table saw could do but I realized I was asking an unreasonable expectation.
Wondering if you are going to do a follow up on this say. Wondering what Sawstop said about the extension arms?
I almost purchased a SawStop Job Site saw with the stand a few years back. I just could not justify the cost and now they are even more expensive. I would purchase that one over this new one for sure.
I have the SawStop Job Site Pro. Going from my ridgid jobsite saw to the sawstop was a huge leap. The sawstop is a little bigger, feels like it cuts better/easier. The fence is so much better than the cheap piece of junk on my ridgid.
I had a bonus from work that I used to purchase it. Love it. Recently built a tablesaw stand (handyman's daughter plans) that gives me a little more surface area to work with and storage.
For me it was worth the investment. Save up, do some research. Good luck to ya
Great video. I was wondering if you plan on selling that shirt or know where I can get it. It’s amazing.
Wow! I purchased the SKil saw from your review. For a $600 difference, my fence sure doesn't do that at full extension! I will just continue to use my common sense and safety habits...
Matt, Thank you for another great review. They not only help when it comes to making a decision on a purchase, but you add a deeper level for me, when looking at products I want to purchase. Things that I would not know until after I made the purchase. Being on a budget, I try to eliminate those kind of mistakes. I purchased the Dewalt Job site version and Love it. It gets the job done for the type projects I currently work. I exercise safety around my equipment and your videos and reviews help keep me that way...Safe. I appreciate just how much thought goes into all your videos with a wide array of items to know and contemplate. You are No. 1 in my tool box!
Thank you my friend!
On the more budget end, I’ve been quite happy with my Ridgid jobsite saw w/stand. I just try really hard not to cut my fingers off.
Is the fence conveniently removable?
If yes, one might consider building a bigger table where the saw can be inserted from the front of the table and then use a custom fence across the front of the larger table. This arrangement allows for the saw to be removed from the larger table and taken to a job site when necessary.
Just tried this on mine. There is some movement if you fully extend it and lift one corner. If you try it with equal pressure on both corners it's rock solid. Non-issue for me.
Same here. I’m curious to see what Matt’s thoughts are in actual use.
On a job site I’m only using a table saw for small cuts. Anything over 8-10” and I’m probably using my Makita 40v track saw. So for me specifically it’s not a deal breaker. At that price point I would expect it to be more refined but at the same time I can’t remember the last time I was using a job site style table saw to cut anything near 24”
Agreed. Plus anything too large and you start moving the saw as you push the sheets through. Track saw is way more flexible.
I think that fence is a big problem. Could you rip a piece of 12/4 maple on the sawstop cts in the full review please?
Did you flip the auxiliary fence over to see if it provides additional rigidity when full extended?
using this tool on site, i don't think the play in the fence will be a problem. it's just not design to be as accurate as a cabinet saw. which you said yourself is fantastic....thank for all your videos.
I think it's just physics but the Dewalt has a slight edge since the way the fence connects to the saw, the tolerance is a little tighter.
I wanted to get this saw since my grandson just started working for me and has no experience on table saws. My Dewalt jobsite saw has been reliable and accurate for over 20 yrs (only if you know how to take care of them properly). If any company going to copy Dewalts rack and pinion fence it better be on par with it. That slop is unexpectable.
I really want this but it does not allow for a dado stack just like my current saw, so I'm going to wait and one day upgrade to the 1500 SS.
you should do a comparison between this and the skil.
Yes please let me know if you find the solution to the table saw wable. Thanks
Any update on that flaw? I was thinking about this table saw to replace mine. I can live with the smaller rip capacity but that flaw makes this a no go for me if they're unable to address it
I'm wondering if they are using this saw as a way to extend their patents , some of which were to expire relatively soon.
Thank you good sir. I was attracted to the saw till you HONESTLY pointed out the ridiculous rip fence slop. A power tool salesman pointed out to me once that the company he represented did not test the machines they brought to the market. It looks like this is what has happened here.
Well after going on 60 years of building and woodworking and I still have all my digits. So at this point I think I will stick with my old old delta.
Hey outlaw! I went with the 10 inch Skil and I love it! I've been using it now for about 3 weeks and there is only one issue I found on it and I was wondering if you noticed it on the one you had. There is a low spot near the blade on the fence side. Its about the size of a hand and goes from the throat plate and slowly tappers up to the miter slot.
I didn't notice that on the one that I had.
@@731Woodworks Thanks!!!
I have had the skil table saw since March and mine doesn't have that issue.
The wobbly fence makes this a total no go for me. I've made about 40 end grain cutting boards this summer using a Dewalt 745 and for cutting the edge grain board into strips that can be rotated 90 degrees and glued into EG form, I'm utilizing the fence initially set to up to 20 inches and cross cutting 2" thick of various hard woods. The DW fence is rock solid and cuts are highly accurate and gives me professional results. I just couldn't envision doing this process on a unstable fence.
I'd still consider a SS if my son wanted to learn some WW, but not this model unless this problem is corrected.
It looks like a very good saw. We don't live in a perfect world, so nothing is going to be perfect. Having said that I'm interested to see what comes of the fence. It would be bad if the play is bad enough to make it a no go for people. Stay awesome.
It looks like a mighty small saw and the ripping capability is not very much. With the exception of the fence issue, it looks like a well built saw. Of course, if you’re going to need the full extension of the fence and want precision cuts, this might not be what you’d want to buy. Thanks for the review!
Exactly my thought. If you need to break down panels, one man (person) can do this with a track saw. Even if the wobble was eliminated, trying to "drive" a 4x8 panel on that small foot print would be a challenge. Mostly, I think, those small job-site saws are set up to rip 1 x & 2x stock.
Good review I was thinking of buying this too! Not now!
I’ve got an updated review on this saw on the channel
What was the final reply from SawStop regarding play in the extension? It would have been helpful and perhaps more fair to SawStop if that final reply could have been part of this video.
I have a contractor size SawStop and love it. Everything is high quality. Some reviews on that model stated optional wings were flimsy. I did not encounter that. I suspect people were not adjusting them correctly and therefore getting some play in them. Hard to know. What I do know is my saw works great and I happily paid the extra money for the safety feature.
I'm waiting for their patents to fully expire...I can't wait until consumer quality saws (like the Skil you recommended) have an upgrade option for a stop feature.
Nope...too much play in that fence for me to consider it. I imagine they will eventually come out with an upgrade to the extension piece, as many like me will cross this off our list of potential purchases. I've not cut my fingers off yet after 45yrs, so I'll just keep using safe practices...
my dewalt 7485 has the same issues with the fully extended fence !
Hey Matt, I bet you could glue a few magnets in the tool caddy and it would stay on there unless you need it.
Do you think SawStop would be willing send you any replacement brake cartridges to show your viewers how the safety feature works in your upcoming full review video? Also, could you make a simple jig to add on to the fence at full extension to give it rigidity?
Thank you for doing this video!
Hi there. I am sure that some kind of jig or support could be set up to make the extended table more rigid, but with the price you are paying for this job site table saw, why should you have to? Besides who wants to carry around something extra to a job site just to get accurate cuts. For a personal shop though, it would probably be a great idea. This comment is not meant as a criticism in any way, it just seems that at this price point, this saw should be just about perfect, which apparently it is not.
@@gregghernandez2714 I completely agree! It’s one thing to pay a premium for a premium product, but it definitely stinks when they want you to pay for a tool that’s not what it should be!
Yea I totally agree, for that much money, they ought to be building a more solid product!
I feel like this next year, others getting to make their versions, will show the price, and actual quality downsides to the Sawstop design.
They are good for safety, but less than average as an overall saw.
I have a grizzly jobsite saw with rolling stand I got back in 2019. No slop in fence when it’s extended to maximum cut width. While I love the safety feature in the SawStop, I don’t make dangerous cuts… ever.
I also have a track saw and mft table for cross cuts and angled cuts. At this price point I think SawStop is competing with its cousin the Festool Track saw.
Don’t understand this entry into the market. I’ll wait to splurge on a table saw when I have the space for a PCS or ICS.
It's awesome how you do reviews of tools. Thank you so much for that. Im a beginning wood worker. Well trying to be anyways lol. I actually need a table saw very badly. I don't have one yet. I truly want a saw stop. The pcs model.
Seems like a company that produces high quality products and an industry leader like SawStop would have spent the time and money in R&D to weed out an issue that has the potential to introduce that level of inaccuracy. I have the dewalt dwe7491 and while it does not have the safety features of the SawStop it also does not carry the $900 price tag. With a wider cut and firm rack and pinion fence, the dewalt seems to be a better option if cost is a factor. Add in that it comes with a rolling stand and it looks to be a better option all around. Thanks for making these videos. They are very informative and helpful.
My first thought on the fence movement is that it’s vertical, not horizontal. The parallelism between the fence and the blade should not change with up and down movement so I doubt it will make any difference in accuracy. BTW, I noticed that you replaced the blade with one with anti-kickback shoulders. SawStop does not recommend such a blade as the shoulders could compromise the effectiveness of the brake, slowing down the rate or amount of penetration of the blade into the brake.
actually when you move it up and down, it does move the distance from the blade slightly. And the work support on the fence is about 1/4" below the surface of the fence, which means the work support isn't level with the table.
Did stop saw ever respond about the potential problem? I couldn't find a followup video?
I have certainly seen better quality in other products for have the price. Besides that I would save my money for later and go with the bigger sawstop saw to get that sawstop feature which I think is amazing. For a jobsite saw I would go with something like the Skil... but that's just me, sir. Thank you for the review, Matt!
I have the 10 contractor saw with a incra fence I love my saw stop
My dewalt 7492 has the same play but I find it not to be a problem since I rarely use the full extension and when I do it is in a panel so not much binding.
Would be interesting to know if the skill one has the same play.
Seems to me that the rail on the rack and pinion fan is a couple inches short. That's probably giving it the slack I would compare it to the rack and pinion found skill how long it is where does it play exactly if you understand what I'm saying
I'd be getting the Skill tablesaw
I bought that Skil saw you referenced based on your and others' reviews. I have a full sized Delta saw that is currently offsite at the cabin we're building, so the Skil is doing fill-in duty here at home. After getting it set up, it rocks! It's a great piece. Honestly, I just can't ever see myself spending SawStop money, especially given they're consistently in the "meh, good enough" range of reviews once you don't factor in that silly one-use blade brake.
My local Ace Hardware recently started carrying this saw. The fence on their display model seems fine to me--no appreciable sag.
A sloppy extention fence IS a BIG issue for me. While it may or may not be a major issue in practical use as far as accuracy goes, I cant bring myself to pay that money for a poorly engineered system of ANY kind. I am certain that would bug the hell out of me every time I used that feature - and that is often as a cabinet maker/installer. I typically press down on work pieces near the fence when guiding through and that will certainly tend to bevel my edge. Im not willing to have to fuss around with that all day on a job. I for one would much rather have a larger tool and have it 100% smooth and solid than save a little size with these kinds of cheap shortcuts.
Hey Matt, was curious if the saw would handle a dado stack. The Dewalt doesn't. I replaced the Dewalt with the Delta you had and it's great. Somebody buying this saw may want to know.
Note that the Dewalt DWE 7491 RS does, in fact, accept a dado stack. And it has the rack and pinion fence like this saw. I’ve been using the Dewalt for the better part of a year now and it has not disappointed.
According to their specs, it does not. I will try and see if mine fits in the full review.
@@chrisbroome I've notice sag in my 7491RS fence when extended. Not sure if its as much as the saw stop but curious if you've noticed that on your dewalt
I'm finally looking at buying a table saw. aww the fence lmao
Look at Ron Paulk’s video on this. You just need to adjust the cam wheel on the right end to bring the rails flush with the table top when fully extended. Considering what I know about SawStop, I’ll bet it’s addressed in the instructions.
I did. Causes more problems. Full video coming soon.
I have the former "cheap option", the JSS or Jobsite Pro. Compared to this, it's a gem. The main issue with mine is the fence. How did they get it right on this???? I have mine built into the work table to save space (along with my router, flip top miter saw and Kreg clamping system) and it all works great! Thanks for assisting in my WW journey. :) BTW, I'm a fan of the Christ centered focus.
Try pushing in the fence lock button and see if that takes out the play
it doesn't change it any
I can’t tell exactly but it seems to be up/down not lateral so it would seem overall a non issue. The Dewalt saw does the same thing (at least mine did) and plenty of people, including Tamar at 3x3 Custom have built great stuff. No movement is better but time will tell I guess. A bit disappointed in Sawstop however. My PCS is a dream.
My M18 Fuel has some wobble, but it's just about half as bad than this Sawstop.
Might affect cuts by 1mm, 2mm at most so like you said should be a complete non issue.
I'd be more worried about surface flatness like I am, in my case my M18 on the top left dips down just a bit more than 0.040".
I guess it depends on your needs. I have the dewalt woth the same fence system and work mainly with hardwood, so i’m basically never using the fence past 10-12 inches. When I do it’s for plywood and other panels that dont need an extremely precise cut. So for me it’s a non issue 🤷♂️
The Dewalt fence is NOT the same, but is very similar. They based their fence off the dewalt, but the locking mechanism is nowhere near as robust as Dewalt's.
@@AlAmantea since they are so similar, I wonder if dewalt’s stopping mechanism could be swapped in? I guess I’ll find out when I get it
@@louisolivierfortin They are in a similar location on the saws, but I would be surprised if it was an easy swap. I'd be willing to bet that sawstop changed enough to make that unable to happen easily.
Price,plastic,trig, etc aside....if when extension rails are fully extended and rail flex
is a concern could you not rip a piece of lumber in full extended rail mode then
do same without rail extensions in play then place each piece on top of each
other and square up the cut butt ends.? A side profile lookie should show
any rail flex impact on the extended rail rip and if that is acceptable to your standard of
workmanship. Just might help alleviate some flex rail concern for some.
I'll start this comment with I do like my 1st gen SawStop JobSite, but I also had bad experience with customer service from a company that says they pride themselves on having great service. The table top/deck on my is anything but flat. Actually quite a bit non flat. I can set a square to the blade on the left and be dead on. Touch nothing but move the square to the right of the blade and see a bunch of daylight. Putting a straight edge across it and you don't need gauges to see it is very much not flat. I called and their answer was something to the affect "It's a jobsite saw, you should not expect to be flat and should not expect to be able to do any precision cuts". I was able to brute force the deck to get it closer to flat, but still not flat. I have learned to work around it. So the fence having so much play does not surprise me as I believe they but their money, and support, into their big boy saws. I've not come across anyone that owns a full size saw that has issues. Thanks for the initial review.
It looks like a binding kickback machine in the making.
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You are pushing the fence up, that is where the play is. My dewalt is exactly the same. I can even push up the fence on my dewalt when it's not extended. The only concern is if the fence is sagging. But you being able to push it up, doesn't necessarily mean anything, it can still be perfectly level with the table.
yeah, the issue is at full extension it is sagging. About 3/4" or more.
@@731Woodworks I came to say the same thing as OP. I'm glad you answered to indicate that it does in fact sag.
I'm going to bet they'll be offering up replacement rails that are longer. For a fee, of course.
Fence is a major issue definitely deal breaker for me 💯
That much play will throw ur square off it's also a snapping issue looks like it will BREAK if bumped the wrong way🤔🤷♂️
Great video bro 💯🇺🇸
Yeah!!! That play in the fence is a deal breaker. Come on #Sawstop!! What’s the deal when that.
I, like you, have a PCS in my shop and I love it. However, I would not be happy with that amount of “play” in the fence rails on any saw, let alone a $900 saw. Even with the safety features.
Hey Matt! I noticed when you were showing the looseness with the fence, it wasn’t in locked position. It does seem to help when the fence is locked to minimize the wobble. At the same time, when applying by downward force, it doesn’t really move so I think it should be fine. I’m interested your thoughts after a week or so of use.
It's the same either locked or unlocked. The problem is it is sagging and not even with the table of the table saw. Which on wide buts of thin material could pose to be an issue. And if the sag is enough, it'll throw off measurements on the indicator, even if slightly. All of that will be checked in the full review.
@@731Woodworks I was just checking mine and the fence support for the extended position isn’t co-planar with the rest of the saw.
No go! I have the SS jobsite pro and while. Don’t love it, there isn’t much flex in the extension.
I have the Dewalt compact saw and it doesn't have that much play in the fence compare to that sawstop. for the higher price for the sawstop compact you'd think they would throw in the folding table stand with that price.
A few months after I bought my sawstop jobsite pro I see an announcement about this model and at first I was kicking myself wishing I had waited. After using the pro and seeing how small (and potentially problematic) this model is, I'm SOOO glad I bought what I did when I did.
IMHO there is no comparison. The Jobsite Pro is a very capable saw that this compact could not compete with.
And the pro will take a dado stack.
How good is the pro at fine adjustments for precision work?
@@MichaelBrown-kk6ck I guess it depends on how fine you're looking for. It's been great for me. Initially the fence gauge was set for dead center of the blade (why?). Adjusting it to being exact measurement for blade kerf was easy. The manual is great quality and clear pictures for everything.
I have not noticed any deflection of the fence even with the extension. Surprising no one the miter gauge is crap, feels cheaper than my first ridgid jobsite gauge.
Getting dado blades is on my list. Just haven't gotten to it yet. Going from my $300 ridgid jobsite to the pro has been night and day. I'm sure bigger and better are great, but I don't have bigger and better space. Or skill.
In Europe we have only festool, the cheapest is more than 2000usd. I could have 900usd, but 2000 ?
I’m moving on from this because of your review, I’m going to stick to the Delta Delta
That fence slop would be a total show-stopper for me. At that price point I would be looking for a rock solid fit & finish on every component. I expect that from a Ryobi but not from a premium brand like SawStop. I would expect their design engineers to be able to have created a great fence without much trouble but alas, no.
I was ready to buy one until I found out you can't use Dado stacks in it.
To me it's not a huge issue. I can't really think of very many applications where I would be ripping something with the fence that far from the blade. At that point I would think it'd be easier in most cases to use the track saw. Sure, there are probably some select cases where that would be an issue, but I don't think that's something to base the decision on when deciding to buy or not.
you'd think they would have a way to extend the table for ripping.
You are not just buying a saw .... Your buying a certain level of safety ... I have 2 ... Glad I spent the extra money and btw, have you priced a trip to the ER lately?
Thanks for the video!! but Sticking to my Dewalt table saw.
Really looking forward to the full review. What is the name of the tool at 2:02 you use to adjust the fance?
It's a digital depth gauge taytools.com/products/igaging-ip54-origin-mini-depth-gauge?afmc=1bz&
Trick to opening boxes one of two ways, open the bottom flip the flaps all the way open and flip the opening downward, pull the box straight up. Other way is open the top and open the flaps all the way then flip the box over with the opening facing down and pull the box straight up. This will keep you from tearinh up the Styrofoam like Matt did. 🤣. I cut my fingertips off with my Dewalt table saw back in May. $900 is a steal. I'd pay a lot more than that to get my fingers back 😉.
For a contractor saw for onsite jobs I don’t think that will be a big issue. If you are using it in any other capacity it is a big issue.
They are saying that's normal for all construction\compact saws? I have a rigid and it had zero movement
they were saying it was normal for this specific model.
@@731Woodworks that's good for clarification. But i still feel it's unacceptable. This didn't seem to have outfeed support like the rigid does, but it still feels like it would throw off measurements. I know most tape on the saw aren't great, but this downgrades it even more. As long as you are holding the piece properly, it won't cause an angle, but the accuracy of the measurement would change based on where you measured to on the fence. You would have to figure out the point the wood touches the fence, as it would only contact at the bottom corner of the side
I bought this too. Haven't even opened it. Should I?
I don't know. I'd be curious if they all have the same amount of play. I assume they do.
The micro bevel adjustment is a effing must. Period.
Is it durable enough to survive go to and from a job site, and working at a job site? So, they don’t know what should be known? They had to look at others to see if this was normal? What?