Kincaid's Affair - Law & Order
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From Season 4, Episode 14 "Censure" - Stone faces a tough court battle when a judge is placed on trial and claims the case against him is the vendetta of a former lover.
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I remember this one. When he got to trial at one point he said to the Judge, "For God's sake, Wally." to which the judge in the case said, "That's Judge Scribner to you."
“You wore the same robe I do. You know the drill. Now if you want to dance, you can come back and dance at a trial. So let’s hear it. All of it”
That is crazy...must be 20 years but I remember that too. Speaks to what a powerful scene to leave that impression on us
Moral of this story: if someone thinks that they should be off the case, they probably have a good reason and should be taken off the case!
Been a while since I saw this episode but I'm pretty sure there were deeper morals than this.
Exactly! And I agree with her she should be able to feel like some part of her private life can stay that way xxx
How about, I slept with him and now I need to be removed. Not take me off the case, without any information.
No, just "i should be off the case" isn't good enough, you have to give reason as to why. She alone screwed this up and it's only on her. How about after he refused to take her off the case even after she said she should while giving weak reasons as to why and it being clear that he wasn't going to take her off the case, she comes out and says why.
Instead she said nothing, let this go on and then essentially takes herself off the case anyways, but it's too late because her private life is going to come out in the end anyways.
This was a clear case of sticking your head in the ground and hoping the bad thing passes.
She should have clarified the reason, saying there are private motives.
It her mistake, and her only even if it is an understandable one.
Bro schiff just calmly saying, "well that's just dandy" followed by Stone standing up with the most shocked face possible and then later just going on with how exquisite the situation is, is why Schiff was my favorite DA. Man could care less he's just sick of dealing with it.
Adam could see the down side of his grandsons birthday cake " if he get's burned by the candles, the caterer gets sued, the media will have a field day...take the deal!"
Totally agree on Schiff being favorite DA. I love the episodes that gave him more screen time. Excellent character and excellent actor.
"Media gets ahold of this... this is beautiful, absolutely exquisite... how the hell do we keep a lid on this ..." his delivery here soooo on point!
I was hoping someone would comment on Schiff's deadpan reaction.
Schiff is the "seen all, done all, lived all" type. Nothing can surprise him.
After getting impossible missions done for a long time, it is what it is (Steven Hill was Dan Briggs in the Mission: Impossible tv series)
Stones look of shock when Kincaid reveals that she had the affair is priceless!
And Schiff, "well that's just dandy."
@@bananacathammock there's nothing that can shock him anymore 😂
Kincaid and Stone are in an argument over very serious and personal things while Schiff is contemplating the coming nightmare he’s going to have to deal with. It’s such a well juxtaposed scenario.
@@bananacathammock I think I read somewhere that Steven Hill who plays Schiff was known to voice his opinion about his character's lines and had a certain degree of influence, I just have a feeling he wrote that one lol. In my opinion he was one of the very best actors in the whole law and order franchise. I always loved episodes that gave him a little more screen time. Brilliant actor.
@@sly4u247 " this is beautiful, absolutely exquisite" there's a picture of Adam Schiff beside the word "Sarcasm" in the dictionary...
Stone's face scream: YOU DID WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yet he calmly said: you had an affair?
Stone (Moriarty) was great.
😂
Very few could take the away the coldness of Stone. It was close to inhumane how cold he was
"And not with me?! Because I'm so unlikeable and unf%#kable!?"
@@steveconn actually that's how I felt after watching this scene, I mean, Stone must be thinking: affair with that old wrinkly guy but not with ME?
When they brought Jerry Orbach back to play Briscoe they struck gold especially with Briscoe’s facial expressions & sarcastic comments I’ve got series’s 1 to 5 on dvd & the actors who appeared were brilliant
4-10 are the best seasons
Where did you get those seasons. I can't find them?
@@marilynbarriger7726 my sister bought them I don’t know where she got them as they were a birthday present
Kincade: Maybe this will help. Here's my resignation.
Schiff: Now just a minute.
I like Schiff. He's not willing to throw away a valuable resource even if that resource can't be helpful on one particular case.
Kincaid probably knew that. The whole thing is a ritual. She offers her neck. He declines to cut it. They both know he could. They both know he won't. The gesture is appreciated nonetheless.
"Well, that's just dandy."
😬
Love Adam Schiff!
"....Water Lapping....Fiberglass...you can tell by how it hits the hull".....dammmmmmn
That's true. Water against a fiberglass hull and water against a wood hull sounds entirely different.
@@larrykeenan598 it is a little bit virgin though
@@weavercs4014 Virgin?
Water temp between 60-68 Farenheit. Saltwater, but after a rain. Based on the rhythm of the laps, it was shortly before lunchtime.
@@devilmcteague1308 Nope. At 3:30 in the clip, Lenny identifies the time by six bells (3:00pm, by the naval clock).
"She could be taken sooo easily." I remember this episode when it aired on A&E in the 90s. One of my first. So good
I love it when Stone says in a quiet tone You had an affair then has a mini explosion why didn’t you tell me 😂😂
"That's just dandy"
Ngl that took me TF out 🤣🤣🤣💀
I always liked Kincaid.
I like her and Olivia benson from law and order Svu and I like van Buren from the original law and order
Same
Claire was my favorite ADA. She seemed to be the most real.
I liked Kincaid too.
A lot. A whole lot.
A heckuva whole lot.
Lots and lots.
"Well that's just dandy" lol.
I found that so funny! He's just so accepting of it and so non-judgemental; just focused on how to keep this hidden from the press 😂 so cool x
Adam is good with words.
That's just dandy
This is beautiful, absolutely exquisite
Lol
Back when characters who played cops on cop shows actually looked like cops.
You realize that Chris Noth was part of the very first pair of detective partners on the show, right? He was considered a pretty major heartthrob. Now George Dzundsa played his partner, much more of a "regular guy" type look (he's played cops a few times in his career), but it's not like there's an absolute either way.
@@kevinw712 He played the role very well.
Benjamin Bratt (Detective Curtis) was a lady's man also.
Dumbest show ever
Made 4 morons
Schiff calling the reporter a pipsqueak ahaha. That's a great word that seems to be forgotten these days. 'Twerp' is another good one. Good insults without being vulgar.
"Top proctologist....6000 bucks a peak"
im dying lol
Oh Lenny you never disappointed. RIP
😂😂😂😂😂
Adam: "Oh, that's just dandy." One of the best lines in the whole series.
This was an excellent episode. Law and Order got more recognition and higher ratings after Jill Hennessy left in 1996, but the best episodes of the show were the ones that ran from 1990-1996. Michael Moriarty's years (90-94) were excellent and so were Sam Waterston's first two, but the show wasn't as good after Chris Noth left, and no female ADA could hold a candle to Jill Hennessy's Claire Kincaid.
Abbie Carmichael was the last good one.
@@Hellraiser0601 I hated Abby. I think she was the worst Ada
I disagree. The best years were season 5-10. Once West left the show (Adam Shiff) It changed. The cases started getting more political. The decline really started season 13 when Lewin resigned from DA.
@@mazengwe28 I loved those seasons too. I didn't watch seasons 12-20 because I'd already moved abroad, but I've no doubt they were weaker than 1-10. So in a way I do agree with you in that the best seasons came in the beginning of the show's run.
@@dzanier The main reason I know I like seasons 5-10 better than 4, is because I have been recently doing an episode to episode rating. I watch the 1st episode of the 4-10 then the second then the third and so on. I take note of the episodes I find exceptional. And seasons 6,7,&8 have had the most exceptional cases out of the rest.
I freaking love Adam Schiff! He plays the role of grumpy old man who doesnt have time to deal with the ADA shenanigans!
The only thing that messed up the first few seasons: using the same actors in different episodes as different characters.
Well that's something that happened throughout the entire run of the show.
Stone is a smart prosecutor. But here, they made him seem obtuse. Kincaid was dropping hints and Stone never picked up on them.
Seriously, read between the lines Stone.
Kincaid's fault for not just saying what the issue was. Stone asked her point blank and she played it off like it was nothing. He isn't a damn mind reader.
not really? stone respected kincaid. he didn't think she was like some corporate sleaze who slept around to improve her position. personally i didn't think she was the type, so im not surprised stone didn't either.
That's often the case. You have a professional relationship and keep it that way. Then you find out years later she was like a door knob. Everyone had a turn.
@@robertthomas5906 So was the he.
Is that Jane Kaczmarek prior to Malcolm In The Middle?
Harold The BRO! they gotta start somewhere!
@@26bLaw & Order has led the way for some of the greatest actors and actresses. I didn't recognize Jane Kaczmarek.
Yup!
@@harrybrofyre In one S2 episode the guest star was the late great Eli Wallach.
Those giant 90s hats and hairdos.
Mr. Big and Malcom’s mom look so young and so serious here.
“Malcolm!!! Reese!!! Get in here!! If I EVER CATCH YOU TWO playing with your father’s video camera again, you’ll wish you’ve never been born!!
Now, you march right over to that little girl’s house and apologize!! And then, you get your tails right back here because you are both so grounded!!”
I'm so glad someone else saw that too 🤣
Why can't they get this series streaming? 😕🤨🤔😠
I'm pretty sure you can. You just have to pay for it. Go to Hulu or Netflix, probably most of the episodes are there.
James Amick it’s been off of Netflix for quite a while now, I don’t know about Hulu or anywhere else though.
There's also the we tv app you can download that and I'm sure most episodes would be there since the show airs on that channel.
Along with any show that also airs on we tv like criminal intent or csi ext.
Google says Law & Order is available with a subscription through Sling TV, fuboTV, and Philo (I've never heard of any of those), and available for $1.99 per episode through CZcams and Amazon Prime.
My thoughts on this excellent episode:
1. Kincaid is an excellent character and possibly my favorite ADA. But she had to know that sleeping with Thayer could damage her career down the line. But that was probably due to happening when she was young (even younger than this episode) and Thayer may well have harrassed her...or could have been entirely her choice...mistakes happens sometimes. A hard lesson I'm sure.
2. I really love the Ben Stone character and this is yet another episode that displays Michael Moriarty's excellent acting.
3. Yet another example of excellent quality episodes before the show was a ratings hit. These old episodes really are some of the very best.
Take this as you will, but Jack McCoy has a widely known history of sleeping with female colleagues, including most notoriously Claire herself.
@@Nonaggress yes. If Mccoy had been in this episode I think it would have been a lot different.
Beautiful couch in that last scene.
Ben stone was a really really great character. I sure wish he'd stuck around longer. I liked McCoy too, but I just think Ben was more relatable, to me. Michael Moriarty is a great actor in his own right, him and Sam Waterston were probably too of the best actors that they had to star on the show.
Stone was the best. I think Moriarty got blown out because he called Janet Reno a Nazi. Early example of cancel culture I guess.
@@CarDietrich Janet Reno appears to have been not so bright.
@@maxalberts2003 She never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Michael Moriarty and Sam Waterston made the movie The Glass Menagarie together with Katherine Hepburn in the 1970's
Moriarity had a manic episode and his wife had to be called to take him to the hospital. He had to be let go since his mental health had declined and despite his statements about Janet Reno going after him (which wasn’t true) he couldn’t handle work.
I think it’s cool how they studied the audio of the tape, and Brisco deduced that there was a naval clock.
"She could be taken so easily"
Well, yeah, when you're a freaking ninja in the daylight.
A 90s editing suite, true Nostalgia 😘
She should have told Ben immediately that she had an affair with him it wasn't just his clerk
The cast of Law & Order are legends they picked the right actors I’ve got the first 5 series’s & I’m addicted to them no matter the case you’re bound to get sarcastic tones which make me 😂 rip Paul Sorivino(Phil Cerreta) Jerry Orbach(Lenny Briscoe) & Steven Hill(Adam Schiff) 3 great actors who made Law & Order brilliant viewing
Love this programme watch it every week still 👍
Jill Hennessey was the cutest actress on L&O
Cute yes, but Angie Harmon was hottest.
She was lovely and naturally elegant but more than just a pretty face
Jamie Ross was hawt.
Even though she came later and part of SVU, the most smokin’ ADA was Rubirosa. Legs that went on for days, a body that won’t quit and a beautiful face.
Wait....!!!.....Wait!!!.....Is it me? or Did I just just see Malcolm's mom?
That would be Jane Kazmerak(if I have her name right).
Back in the day when the only people will full sleeve and hand tattoos were felons
Very true lol
They're still felons, the only difference now is they've became teachers :)
@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo what?
Next time you try to be condescending maybe try and use the correct words/spelling. This is coming from a future English teacher with a hand tattoo.
@@LakeHowellDigitalVideo wat
Adam Shiff: The best and funniest character on here!
Lenny Briscoe’s sarcastic comments always make me 😂 can you explain that in English I cut my teeth on 45s
"Who do we pay around here to keep things quiet?" ...oh my !..On another note...the stalker, extortionist should be locked up ! In addition, the TRUTH always gets out despite people's best efforts to silence many...(affair+ other things..)
why hello, doctor lowenstein. fancy seeing you here... again.
Oh! That creep from S1.
Nicholas Maude yep. the one who molested and abused his daughter (and his wife too)
phan2187 - holland what No he didn’t molest her and he only had the wife abuse her.
@@matthewforsyth284 Sadly he did. They didn't linger on it too much but they did establish it happened.
Matthew Forsyth huh. i was sure he molested her. i must be combining episodes 😂
I just wish I could see some of the old episodes, they were gold.
Welp I'm gonna buy the box set cause season 4 looks amazing.
You do not need to. We TV has them on all the time.
@@le_1983 “had” them, they don’t air at the moment anymore
I’ve got first 5 & they’re addictive
Sundance channel has all day episodes constantly and marathons of the entire series.
WE also shows episodes and so does BBCAmerica.
Oh, my ...a young Jill Hennessy.
$20K ransom??? That won't even get you out of the city. Think like a politician: Never steal small.
Love this show forever ❤
Lol I love Schiff. Great character aha more concerned about politics than law lmao
unfortunately from where he sits both are hopelessly intertwined. So he plays the best hand possible.
@@rao8559hopelessly intertwined. So true.
Claire, was the hottest of all the ADA’s
great scene
Does he know what they'll do to a Judge in prison?, being locked up with the same people he put there. If you think what happens to cops in prison is bad, imagine what happens to judges.
They'll put the judge in a segregated area of the prison. Just as they do other former law enforcement officers who are convicted of crimes...
@@Deborahtunes they don't put cops, judges or DAs in general population.
@@podsmpsg1 ~ I know. As I mentioned in my previous comment, these people are put in a segregated area/unit. My ex-husband use to be a corrections officer in two maximum security prisons, and a supermax prison. There was a former police officer in the seg. unit who was convicted of murdering his mistress...
@Michael Moretti Judges and Cops in prison is like chum in the shark tank.
And the only thing they hate more than corrupt cops and judges are pedophiles and child abusers!
Now that… looks like equipment that does actual things.
Kincaid, innocent and naughty at the same time!
Also a not so subtle (in retrospect) set-up for her getting into a relationship with Jack.
And god she's beautiful...sigh.
I have loved L&O for decades❤️👏. Thank you for this channel🌈👏
Jill Hennessy is a fox. Stone cold fox to show how old I am.
Idk what this means
It's really interesting to see the lab and how it used to be done
rafsolo What lab?
@@seanwebb605 the audio and visual analysis lab
rafsolo That’s not a lab. Just an old video room. They didn’t even show any of the normal Qi equipment.
Your "personal" affair stops being personal the moment it touches your professional life.
It would be nice if you could watch complete episodes
I always say "make a deal." just like Schiff always said. IN fact Kincaid got very angry one time with Schiff because she felt going the least expensive route was wrong.
Is it at 6, 21 "Pro Se"? 😂
@@electroskates2434 That's the one.
"take a plea"
_Well that is just dandy_
Adam has a way with words.
I'm loving this shoulders!
ShE cOuLd bE tAkEn SooOOoO eAsIly
Oh, Claire. She was so smug!
They shoulda excepted her resignation maybe she still would be alive
This is is beautiful exquisite😂
Well that's just dandy
Now I know why Lois from Malcolm In The Middle was so stressed.
Watching this clip i'd forgot just how hot Claire Kincaid was.
She was great in Crossing Jordan.
The fact that she has a twin was even better
@@smoothknyte Heh! I'd forgot that she had an identical twin sister.
This is out of control lol
Jill Hennessy (Kincaid character) has identical twin sister in real life.
She filled in for Jill for some of the courtroom scenes in the episode "Corpus delicti" because Jill was out of town filming the scenes for a crossover with Homicide life on the street. She had no lines But if you watch the courtroom scenes carefully you can see that it isnt Jill sitting there.
Crazy stuff!
Ahhh vhs i remember it well.
Good old VHS, tapes!
Scary!
I've seen this episode 100 times. So why am I so pissed the whole thing wasn't shown here???
The perpetrator is a well respected appellate Court judge who had a vendatta against a woman who stopped having an affair with and he couldn't handle it so her terrorized her by filming her daughter and by threatening to kidnap her, men and their bruised egos, they can't take rejection even if it is an educated well respected one and he is an evil narcissistic nasty piece of work who should lose everything and the twist is that Assistant District Attorney ADA Claire Kincaid who is suppose to prosecute him worked for him and had an affair with him.
Marsha Lois Camille Philpotts
And didn't Stone intentionally have Kincaid lead the questioning during the trial? (I grieve for my faulty memory)
Marsha Lois Camille Philpotts Didn’t she also have an affair with Jack McCoy?
@@The00Lisa00 NOT an affair. She and Jack McCoy were dating.
And they say WOMEN are emotional...........
@@The00Lisa00 Yeah, she was going out with McCoy until her untimely death in S6 in a car accident (She was hit by a drunk-driver).
No way would that VHS have caught the audio of what they were saying.
"Really? Doin what? I mean cmon, get a clue!
5;15: "I've had dinner with HE" ???? JEEEzus.
that same guy that played the judge played Jacob lowenstein in the first season he's really good at playing disgusting creeps
@Marques Johnson Yes, that guy is David Groh--hard to believe he also played Rhoda Morgenstern's husband on The Mary Tyler Moore show. He must be a good actor if he can make you both hate and love him, lol.... 😉
@@bwenluck9812 I didn't know he was on Mary Tyler moore I just saw him on law and order and I thought he's good because I really hated him LOL
I swear I heard Robinette asking the judge questions during the perp walk
Sounds like to me too.
Thought so too but it’s a random Black actor with similar “affect”
Why did he have to hit the keys so hard lol
"Some kind of a bell"
Arthur Gold king of the specious motion. His clients are considered innocent until proven broke.
She must REALLY like her bosses, Wasn't she in a relationship with Jack McCoy also?
Reed Reed I wish I was her boss 😜
@baggabliss Except that she was also often shown to be quite capable at her job. Sure I wouldn't deny it could be questionable behavior, especially if there was more than one instance, but in each case it was two consenting adults. She could still have deserved to be in the spot that she was based on her legal talent.
Was she? She made it very clear when they met she knew Jack's history and didn't want a piece of it.
@@kevinw712 Joan Crawford famously f###ed her way to stardom and she was a great actress too. The two aren't mutually exclusive and I completely agree that she could have been there for both reasons.
(It's funny that we talk about these characters as if they were real lol but it's the great acting that gets me hooked in 😂)
Hope everyone here is having a great weekend 💙🏴💙
It was alluded to in season 6.
Love me some lenny rip
Man where can I get the rest of the episode
Well, if she loses that kid, she's always got Francis, Reese, Malcolm and Dewey to fall back on.
I mean it is all on her - she should have disclosed that directly to her superior. Ok, not say "an affair", say their relationship was personally close. Still, if the superiors would take you out of the cases without you telling them why, no one would do their jobs
They were so young.
Has to be Vin Diesel.😎
OH GREAT!!! 😂😂😂
You don't sleep with people you work with. Full stop
I think Clair also had a thing with Jack McCoy later on.
No
Yup they did. It was hinted throughout episodes in season 5 & 6 and confirmed in season 9
@@JIF882they did
@@Maya_k I don't think so.
lawyer
L a w y e r
I would let Claire Kincaid clerk in my courtroom…
After he explains the audio overtrack. The other guy is confused.
Me: I wasn't and complained saying "could have just said video was edited. Seems extremely obvious" 🤣
But back then I guess it wouldn't be, but only if the edits were, well better edits 🤣🤣