Don't Stay Silent - Law & Order
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From Season 5, Episode 8 "Virtue" - McCoy and Kincaid find themselves in a unique situation when a high-powered city attorney accuses a city councilman of sexual harassment.
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"Sure, I consented. But I didn't have a choice."
THAT. ISN'T. CONSENT.
Plenty of people don’t understand that difference. They’d blame every death trap victim in SAW movies for murder. They want tragic things to be clear cut, what’s so wrong with things being complicated?
@@yucol5661 The saw trap analogy is wack af, because their kidnapped then put in a lethal boobytrap, which is kidnapping and murder.
@@yucol5661 Lol, imagine taking the side of a guys who entire philosophy is 'If you aren't willing to dissolve your own hand in acid without pain killers or flense yourself, you don't deserve to live.'
Literally every trap that resulted in death 100% fits the crime of murder. 18 US Code 1111 'Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought. Every murder...perpetrated from a premeditated design unlawfully and maliciously to effect the death of any human being other than him who is killed, is murder in the first degree."
Poisoning someone and then hiding the antidote in a box designed to cut off a hand is murder.
(all of these are real traps from the Franchie btw).
Definitely isn’t consent.
This cannot be stated enough times: Blackmail, Threats, Coercion: none of these equate to free consent.
every time someone is described as ‘one of the most honorable men in the city’ in this franchise, they’re guilty
Not just n this franchise. My parents marriage was always looked to and held up by others as the best example of a marriage. Meanwhile he’s mentally and emotionally abusing her at home in private. Whenever something is too “perfect” I worry what’s really going on behind closed doors.
That makes you a critical thinker. Some people can or will face jail time. And throw their spouse under the bus to get off. Examples of Stockholm syndrome in some cases, and survivors of abuse for others. I took psychology in college, and it’s important to know right from wrong. Being told wrong or kind of right, once the truth is out, people will see who’s in the right and who to avoid
"He was going to ruin my life."
DING DING DING! That is quid pro quo sexual harassment!
Which is a civil matter. The DA was concerned about the murder. Two complete different cases.
Was that a Sam Jackson reference?
@@StillTheVoid It can be a criminal matter if its argued that its gender discrimination and one's civil rights were infringed.
@@noblelies Yes...if it was outside the U.S. But as far as I'm concerned this is a civil matter here in the states; not a crime.
I mean...when was the last time you ever heard a corporation or a firm go to jail for mistreating you fairly? Shiieeet...I would be traveling the world right now.
Now remember we're only discussing sexual harassment here based on this comment above by this user.
For this episode, the assumed victim just confessed she was raped; now this case just turned itself into a crime because that is a felony with some implications based on state/federal law along with some major setbacks.
@@StillTheVoid coercion. It's rape. Which is criminal case here in the states.
Anthony Heald is just terrific at portraying a sliminess so intense it makes your skin crawl.
He does seem to have found his niche. I cannot think of a single performance where he plays a nice guy. I probably should look on IMDB. He is always truly believable, and a little scary, in these kinds of roles.
No wonder Hannibal Lector wanted to eat him.
@@mikekling5880 I bet Hannibal sliced him down the middle to remove the digestive tract, then marinated him in a sauce used for Korean barbecue, cooked, then served with lettuce and gochujang.
That's how they cook hagfish, among the slimiest creatures in the animal kingdom.
I’m no cannibal, but that some dish 🤮
Coercion means it was rape in the US. Consent must be given willingly and without coercion. This is why discussing consent is so important.
Consent isn’t worth discussing. If someone doesn’t want sex it’s obvious. Fuck of with your #Metoo bs
Coercion is also “wooing” someone.
@@mrs.chandler9384 uhh no
bel pet Yes. Some women think it’s okay to withdrawal convent, or lie about having commented these days. They use points like you do. You people are disgusting.
@@mrs.chandler9384 coercion is the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats...
Doesn't really sound like someone I want to be involved with.
Season 5 had my favorite cast. Logan, Briscoe, McCoy and Kincade. Terrific episode. This show is as true today as it as 25 years ago.
Also Stephen Hill . Best episode was Michael Moriaties last, when the brilliant Alison Janney was murdered by the Russian Mob . Best music , the short lived drum and bass theme.
This Black woman should’ve gotten more roles in her career. I remember seeing her face before, I have no idea in what show or movie… but she’s clearly a good actress that I wish I knew more about, and who’s talent I wish we could’ve appreciated more.
She's Regina Taylor, her biggest role was in The Unit and she gets a lot of small jobs and does work in theater. She's not a super mega star but does make a decent living.
She was also in miss congeniality 2
She was a main character on "How to get Away with Murder " she's fantastic
Amazing actress. She was the first Black woman to play Juliet on Broadway (Romeo and Juliet).
@@scooneil so she was the first Black woman to appropriate a teenage Italian girl's role? So brave and inspirational. Just saying, appropriation is appropriation, either it matters in all cases or it doesn't matter at all.
The sad thing is that this happens far, far too often.
Garry Forbes
Yes 🙌🏾 it does. I love ❤️ that they talked about it here. We as woman are sexual harassed in every aspect of our lifes. Its so hard to just be taken seriously. All we want is respect ✊🏾
It's never happened in any workplace I've been in.
@grf15. How the hell do you know? Unless you are doing it.
@@67marlinsAre you a man or a woman? If you’re a woman that’s really disappointing. Either way there’s no way you’d know unless you’re seeing and hearing everything. It’s happened at every job I’ve worked at because it happened to me but no one knows because I kept my mouth shut so no, you don’t know.
Not screaming is not consent. >:(
@Patrick Donnelly you disagree, Patrick?
@Patrick Donnelly yes please do explain.
@Patrick Donnelly I thought you had more than a few screws rolling around in that "brain" of your Pat. Consent is an enthusiastic yes. If you have to question it then it is not consent. Not saying no to tea doesn't mean you want it shoved down your throat.
It’s insane how In this time what he did wasn’t a crime, but in 2022 it is. Glad things have changed
The Sarah Maslin actress gave a brilliant performance.
Regina Taylor.
Regina Taylor. She and Sam Waterston starred on a short lived NBC series called "I'll Fly Away" inspired by "To Kill a Mockingbird".
They were awesome together, so glad they got her for this episode.
Definitely!
She was in Lean on Me and in just two scenes she deserved an Oscar.
Mccoy gave the performance of a lifetime in this episode!
why go for legal advice when i can just open the youtube comments lol
I Am rewatching “the unit” and recognized Regina Taylor’s voice first. She’s so much younger here. Glad she got some law and order time like a lot of other successful actors.
I was wondering where else I saw her. She was playing Molly character.
This episode was way ahead of it’s time.
Sam Waterston and Regina Taylor were both on the same TV show I'll Fly Away. Excellent TV Drama as is Law & Order.
Wow. I forgot about I'll Fly Away
I love/hate how real this is
Omggmgmg the lawyer became judge in SVU thats niiceee
Which one?
@@samschellhase8831
Judge Petrovsky I think
This was based on the Clarance Thomas/ Anita Hill scandal.
Forced consent or manipulated consent is NOT CONSENT
I 👏 for Sarah maslin for being a great character in the show and also when she played in the movie lean on me with Morgan freeman you go girl keep doing your thing 👏 💪 👍
WHY ARE ONLY SEASONS 13 AND UP ON PEACOCK
Seasons 3-10 are Simply the Greatest
And then they moved to the higher level so I would of had to pay more. I left Peacock.
I would like to see how SVU would handle this
Olivia would get on her soapbox and Munch would make wry commentary
Lenny is awesome in every episode and love re runs today. B
He’s my favorite. I especially loved him as Lumiere in the original Beauty And The Beast. I also loved Lt. Anita Van Buren
4:31 Sarah Maslin was played by Regina Taylor.
Oh my god, it’s Petrovski before she was a judge! 💚
I can probably count on one hand the number of times they’ve ever shown the ADAs sitting at their desk.
I feel so sorry for Sarah
Nobody does smarmy like Tony Heald!
That Dr Chilton is up to no good wherever he goes. I hope Hannibal Lecter did get to have him for lunch.
Unfortunately no. The Great Red Dragon got to him first.
Loved this episode a lot
Unfortunately the people who drafted the legal law are not bouncing around in her head
GOD SCHIFF WAS BRILLIANT
The legal law? What does that mean?
@@barbarat5729 Adam Schiff said it on the episode
And it was penal law, I mistakenly said legal
never settle for less
Was quid pro quo sexual harassment not a crime back then?
Unfortunately, it wasn't. Today it would get you fired.
It's still not a crime. It's a civil matter (i.e. you can sue), not criminal.
Seeing Sam Waterston and Regina Taylor together again is Magical❤💜💜💜
The things Women go through with most of the World knowing that they are not lying. DEPLORABLE
It’s not fair. It’s just not fair. Even men of good will can’t escape the truth, that we all bear a measure of responsibility. Why should women, ours wives, sisters and daughters be the only ones to bear the burden and the cost of this deplorable basic affliction of all societies?
Degrading, for both men and women. Some of us, just don’t give each other any other, more logical solutions where both sides win. Just because one sides gets it, doesn’t mean karma won’t follow. That’s why I want to make a win/win for both parties.
Oh this was a brilliant episode!
Is McCoy any different when he blackmails a suspect who maintains his innocence into a plea deal by threatening them with a ridiculously harsh sentence if they refuse?
No. They broke the law, and they usually think they're in the right to do so. Big difference. The law is the law, and they break it for their own gains. Plain and simple
Anthony Heald looks like a shorter, slimy Nick Nolte.
U need glasses
Jill Hennessy played the Commander in that movie with Seagal and DMX.
Exit wounds? 🤔
Would it have been wrong if Schiff or McCoy had quietly flipped the lawyer off as she walked out?
Nah
That's why Schiff will always be the BEST
I love season 5
this lady was the blind woman on early edition folks
It was actually Shanesia Davis-Williams
2:40 later played judge on L&O:SVU.
Nowadays.. Olivia would play prosecutor and act like she knows the law better than the Lawyers and tell said Lawyer to look at the victim but not even listen to the victim
How am I doing
@@kdohertygizbur leave Olivia alone she is one of the best protagonists on law and order
Regardless she should have told someone about her boss taking advantage of her and blackmailing her.
Um. Okay. You a man?
Kincaid
"I kill myself for 8 years."
Sarah Maslin.
These days we know that's not real consent.
I thought for a split second it was a young Donald Trump
Dr Chilton!!!
Who else noticed 2:33 Adam Schiff?
Get me someone to tell...
Is this the one that refers to Supreme Court Justice CT?
It’s Diaper Donnie!
McCoy good actor
The earrings Regina Taylor is wearing here (9:22) are the same as the ones worn by Lorraine Toussaint in the season 1 episode, "Indifference":
czcams.com/video/K8__haXzij4/video.html (0:04)
Being a black woman in corporate setting is horrible. I feel her pain.
All women are capable in being positions. Prejudice and discriminations are always being used by people because of personal grudges, envy hearts, and proud people who think they can take instead of earning it; those people should just take a deep breath and let it go. But some want to do stupid, inexcusable behaviors and acts to get their desired outcomes.
Makes me glad that if something’s bothering me, I get to talk to someone. They explain to me, then I let myself go on that something. Getting over it, to be blunt about it
Frederick Chilton ....
The #MeToo movement would
really enjoy this episode.
I don't understand why they also want to get pounded, though.
Good people are those who just haven't been caught yet
@Notal Ael
After what I have lived through, I don't believe anyone is ever good
Foolish Drunk,
I am truly sorry for what tribulations you have had to bear up under.
@ShinRaPresident
If I was the type to tell, wouldn't I have been caught?
@ShinRaPresident
Plenty of things
There's nothing more disgusting than women defending miserable men, in shows or reality.
Good Morning
MeToo movement!!!!
The VP from Boston Public😒
Obscure reference.
dude looks like trump
Beautiful black woman.❤
bad guy
How does the episode end? Did the guy get his"Just desserts" or not?
Ahead of its time by about 15 years.
watching this in 2023 is wild
That’s REGINA KING.
NELSON MANDELA
Is Talbert is the one who Logan punched and got exiled for?
I am abs
🔥👏🏾💜🖤😍✌🏾
Lots of shoulder pads in this episode.
They need to come back.
Who's?
An NDA is invalid if a crime ocurred.
Consent is consent.
duress is duress.
He pulled up mein Skirt. 👩 WOMAN.
Good lord that defendant looks like a young Donald Trump.
That is who I thought about when I saw this.
Prophetic
Does not
Coercion is still r4pe💔💔 i hope he got what he deserves
Tara reid foreshadowing
Wasn't she in 'AMERICAN PIE' ?
The obsequious pvc adversely pump because card emotionally mug through a naive orchestra. defiant, spurious emery
She decided to sleep with him to get ahead. She shouldn't hurt women who were actually raped.
I could never be working a high-profile job, and some guy with some entitlement that he thinks he has to my existence wants me to put everything on the back burner and lose myself for him just cause he wants to get laid. I’ll be heartbroken, of course, but I will move on. I am not doing that. I’ll find a different passion because I’m a multifaceted person!
When a girl meets a
Men will say he's so sweet and kind .
I will say ok ? Let's see
What happens ?.
Then she said she got
Home from work very
Tired went to bed and.
Started snoring, She
Woke up he was putting a pillow in her
Mouth to stop her From snoring...,..
😝😝 My
Friend is a registered.
Nurse She called the
Police & got arrested.
I know there's wonderful nice guys 😊🤗☺️
Anyone else think the guy on trial is supposed to be Trump?
Anyone else think you have serious derangement?
------------------HHTIIONNIXI NINETY-NINETH POWER
Watterston....could not stand his character.
Lol
Why
"Got his money's worth"? She thinks she's worth 50k??
her tone indicates she thinks shes worth more, them business women XD
She thinks her silence was worth it, and so did he. Probably wrote it up as a campaign expense, cos keeping his image clean is part of the election strategy.
Ahhh the 90s...women in skirts, pantyhose and heels. Heaven!
What is between a women's legs has never been that important...I find this clip hard to believe...
This show is so dumb. Dunt Dunt! Now if it was written like Phoenix Wright at least it would be funny
Wow someone mentioned Phoenix Wright! I loved that game since I was a kid! And then they made it into an Anime!!
Yay 😁
Why are you classifying this show as dumb
Sam Waterston and Jill Hennessey have great chemistry.
This is crime drama, not comedy
Your comment is so dumb. Dumb Dumb!! Now if it was written like a true TV critic, it would at least have some credentials to back up the verdict. Somewhere in the world, many fans of the show are laughing at you.
Is there an episode where the airigant cops gets punched?