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MASSIVE Landslip Swallows Oxford Canal at Brinklow - Hugely Expensive Canal Closure
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
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On the 8th February 2024 a HUGE landslide closed the Oxford Canal. The cost of sorting it all out will run into the hundreds of thousands of pounds and take many weeks. Feast your eyes on this mess!!!
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Im so pleased to have provided you with some in the mud on the scene footage to show you the devastating landslip its worse than even the video shows, that canal is buried and this is after the large trees have been chopped up and removed. It's going to take a long while and a lot of experience to CRT.
I will be visiting later in week or so to see how they get on.
If its looking different will let you know.
I put my video on my youtube channel too but my editing isnt so good as yours Elliott. 😂
Thanks again means a lot and i do hope youve mow put Brinklow on the map 😅😅😅😅
Kev the Brinklow kayaker
(and Millie)
Cheers for the footage Kev, as you can see 14,000 people and counting have benefitted from being able to see it, and for a decent chunk wouldn’t have known Brinklow existed 👍
You should talk to the Tourist Board and get a job 😎
Thanks for sharing 👍
@NarrowEscape1 you're very welcome.
I'm over the moon it received so many views its great you put it out there to that many followers.
Of coarse will keep you posted with any updates.
Thanks for watching me reporting.
Kev the brinklow kayaker
Big Quarry a mile away! 😮
Why so much wood has someone cause this by cutting down trees?
@@johnchild61Could well be. Tree roots help to hold the soil/earth/land in place as well as absorbing multiple gallons of water. Not enough living trees and the water has to go somewhere. It is possible someone mucked up big style.
When the chief executive was on over £200000 a year in 2018/2019, money to sort it out should not be a problem.
Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
They have the money but they waste most of it.
Conservatives always wanted to sell British Waterways as it had a massive property portfolio but they couldn’t do it as the Waterways are a national treasure and there would be a public outcry.
So the Conservatives made British Waterways a charity and the charity was able to sell off land and property to invest😉😉 the proceeds of the sales back into the waterways 😉😉.
So what was owned by the British people is now slowly going into private ownership , land for development and property being sold under the very noses of the public for corporate profits 💰💰 all wrapped up in the guise of a Charity . Property rental and water abstraction were the main income for British waterways , canal river trust sell off these assets?? and your selling of future income.
Just like
gas
Electric
Trains
Roads
Water treatment. all where owned by the British people
run for the benefit of British people and now in the hands of corporations who’s only concern is milking the British people for as much money as they can.
@@markdrury4287and pay golden banana and still get a monkey. High pay doesn't guarantee high ability. Look at government ministers.
Exactly @@shaunjones6049
@@markdrury4287Doesn't matter what you pay them, you still get monkeys.
Men with shovels built the canals a few hundred years ago. Why is it such a drama to dig out a blockage a few hundred years later. We've gone soft.
maybe we have become soft but when I heard that it will cost many 100ds of thousands and that they dont know how to get the heavy machinery to the site. I thought barges, strong arms and reckoning that it wouldn't cost 100ds of thousands. Then I rememberd that there is a labour shortage.
Get prisoners to do it.
Aren't Labour going to release a whole bunch of them anyway? Just tell them, _"Dig out the canal or don't get released."_ I'm sure that'll be enough encouragement.
@thezanzibarbarian5729 it’s a great idea but Labour are going to release these little darlings without them having to do anything so….
Makes your blood boil!
Maybe it was the fact some trees were removed that caused the landslide.
The tree removal will make the ground wetter and so weaker. The recent heavy rains then find a weakness.
Should have learnt from the railway. You allow trees to grow on embankments, when they get too big you chop them down, the roots die and next thing you have a bank slip.
Indeed. In times past, trees on embankments were pollarded resulting in relatively small branches above ground and strong root systems that gave embankments stability.
Its the same for roads. I live near a heavily wooded main road. Every year or two there is a major problem through land slips or large fallen trees.
The council should be inviting franchises to cut the trees and sell the wood and mulch. Instead they wait until there is an obstruction and it’s repaired as emergency work by maintenance contractors at ratepayers’ expense.
Probably not a coincidence that contractors have recently been cutting down trees in that spot. Their work has disturbed the embankment.
Were the Trees cut before the Landslide or after?
@@michealhand1001I was just about to ask this too!
I love the birds peacefully singing in the calm countryside. So relaxing... 😊
Only in the UK where our infrastructure project management absolutely sucks. Road works in place for years, rail improvements 3 times over budget. Any other country would take pride in getting this done as efficiently as possible, but not here.
You should travel (or live) abroad more often. The UK is definitely _not_ the only place where aging infrastructure is falling apart. Landslides happen all around the world too.
Could cutting down the trees on the banks added to the land slip?
Yes will make the ground wetter. Wetter ground has less shear resistance.
I presume that this has occurred in the cutting just to the east of the village.
I served an apprenticeship and worked for 20 years at Rolls-Royce, Ansty, so I used to know the area well. However, I moved to the Bristol area over 40 years ago, but for old times' sake, I drove past the Ansty site (now a technology and business park) only a few months ago.
Someone has commented, "on the bright side, its not like the canal was on top of the embankment and they lost all the water too." However, I believe that this actually happened to this section of the canal sometime after WWII.
As an apprentice, I recall being told that, where the canal is on an embankment between Ansty and Brinklow, the embankment failed and drained the canal for miles. I was told that they used the hull of a Sherman tank to plug the breach. Does Kev, the Brinklow Kayaker, know anything about this?
PS I was brought up in Atherstone, in a house that was 'sandwiched' between the Coventry Canal and the West Coast Main Line.
Looks like a lot of work. Although I must say my first thought was: Fitzcarraldo! There's plenty of logs around for making a log rolling slipway...
some of you commenting about the trees need to get your eyes tested! it clear to see the wood was cut AFTER the slip to help clear and gain access to the area. also trees on the banks are a good thing if managed properly the root systems assist in stabilising the banking.
Cut up the fallen trees and advertise free logs. Bring small "Bob cat" diggers in on barges or even down the towpath to dig out spoil, remove spoil by boat. Easy and NOT £££,£££.
You could do it yourself over a couple of weekends then! 👍🏻
I know a few boat people who are not doing anything that might be helpful.
Once you start moving the slip more soil will slip, care is needed when working under the area.
was trees cut down before the slip or after ?? the removel of trees may have weakend the root systems and therefore destabalised the bank .the trees no longer removeing excess water into the trees it built up and compromised the soil alowing it to be come over saturated to then slip and collapse.???
Interesting point!! As you are aware trees are critical in stabilising ,stopping soil erosion and flooding.So if these mature trees were removed prior to this collapse then it’s more than likely responsible for the landslide.
Looks like after as the clay banks slid down at a fracture point making a cliff wall above the slump that's in the canal. Personally I think after you get the trees off the slump & root pads out the way you could use the water to float in some diggers and barges clearing it quickly but you will have to consolidate the bank to stop it reoccurring further along.
The trees look pretty freshly cut, so I'm guessing the answer is "After". Even if they had been cut before, the cuts are fresh, so the root systems would still be intact & binding the soil. Also, at this time of year, water uptake by these trees would be insignificant in terms of reducing waterlogging, particularly in view of the amount of rain we've had.
Having boated this stretch a lot I think they have been relying on the roots of the trees to stabilise the bank for many years - there have been "GO SLOW - UNSTABLE EMBANKMENT" signs up there for at least 6 years - probably longer. So as usual the CRT have known for a while. And done nothing. This should come out of Richard Parry's wages - he gets paid more than the UK PM anyway!
what were they suppose to do
If heavy machinery is difficult to get in to clear the cut down trees, why not approach someone who could assist with horse logging and even dredging the canal bed out. I’m sure there would be someone with horse that would help. 🤞👍🙂
How cool would that be??? To utilise the assets of the canals in the 1700s to fix the problems on 2024!! 👍😎
Do it CRT, do it!!!!!
@@NarrowEscape1might be “cool” but would also take far far longer. If this section of the canal is to reopen buy this summer it’ll need lots and lots of modern equipment that is unless you have an army of cheap labour working without regard to safety, you know “the way they were built”!!!
Trees have been cleared, finish the video within the video.
Think you might need to elaborate because we don’t understand?
Massive? I would have thought that a determined group of volunteers could shovel that away in a few weekends. Good grief, they build the whole Canal by hand.
Incredibly lucky that nobody was passing or moored up at the time; they would not have escaped alive.
😲😲😲 oh my lord, never seen such a thing til now 😳
Thanks for the vid
Canal embankments are rather like railway embankments, been there for years with minimal maintenance. Considering the amount of rain that has deluged the county during the winter months leaving the ground absolutely saturated there will inevitably be some land slip. A difficult task but I am sure waterways have the resolve.
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That's quite a bit of tonnage! Glad no one got caught up in with that!
Quite right! It could have been a real problem if someone was passing by. We might have seen the first ever narrowboat hit 10mph 🤣🤣
Well the one thing that everyone will be sure of is that the CRT will make this "clearance" as expensive as possible and take as long as possible.
Exactly. Whilst someone somewhere makes sure someone else somewhere makes a mint.
Great video, what a terrible landslide, stay safe and thankyou for all your hard work. ❤❤
Thanks for that. It’s very much appreciated when people recognise the effort that goes into the videos…although Kev did this one of course 🤩
@NarrowEscape1 hey you done the hard bit Elliott. Videoing is easy lol. Na I have a lot if respect uou work hard on these video mate. I just love you can show more of this slip than I can on my crappy channel lol.
In the real world this bit of canal should not of been built like this.The banks are very steep and it was bound to slip one day. I've known this stretch for 60 years and it's quite scary just walking along the foot path.This is going to be a major dangerous job restoring it.
Well that won't do Rose Narrowboats any favours....they're just around the corner and an old friend of mine used to run it who also used to be in a band called 'The Stiff Joints'...
Wow one hell of a landslide and slip not a quick fix by the looks of it thanks for showing us 😢
You’re most welcome!
Hi, well on the bright side, its not like the canal was on top of the embankment and they lost all the water too. The landslip just filled in the canal. Maybe a less terrifying way of looking at it. Hope it get cleared soon, what with the summer approaching. All the best Dave.
Hi Dave. Yeah, a breach would have been a double whammy!
@@NarrowEscape1 Please see the comment I've just posted.
That's not going to be sorted this year, oh wait did you say Oxford canal? Guess it will be done as a priority.
Call Dale at the Quarry!
Wide shoulders and deep pockets!
Farmer Dale @ Brinklow Quarry 🚜 👨🌾
Oh dear, what a shame C&RT got rid of all BWB's heavy waterborne equipment.
A Land & Water long reach with Hydrema tracked dumpers should shift it.
B W sold off all its plant and tools from claw hammers to dredgers . Brand new chainsaws battery drills all sorts of equipment for a fraction of what they paid for it.
Then hired tools from HSS😳 hiring battery drills for a year unbelievably expensive.
They Cut down the trees & disturbed a weakened earth bank same with Network Rail they chopped miles of trackside earthworks & now those lines are continually flooding this is the result of possibly unregulated uncontrolled amateur untrained so called Landscape contractors causing £Billions in damage through destroying natural flood plains across Britain & is at a frightening level !
Good evening fellow Josh owners, There's some muck to clear there for sure. As you mentioned it will cost CRT a few hundred k and numerous mechanical devices to sort it. One must think back to the day it was first built by hand and get a sense of the work that went into creating it in the first place. I suppose CRT will also want to engineer some future proof method of trying to prevent a reoccurrence, which will no doubt come at an additional cost. Either way sorting that out is no mean feat. Cheers, Peter.
Hey there Peter, hope your mouth is feeling better? Been a bit busy here but I will give you a call to discuss that ‘thing’ about the ‘jobbie’ in ‘the place’ 🤣🤣
With any luck the CRT will resort to horse power and it can be fixed old skool. Although I don’t think horses know how to dig and scoop 🤔🤭
You’re right though, clearing it is one issue but how do you ensure all the surrounding banks (it’s like this for a good stretch along here) are stable and safe??
It’s going to cost a small fortune for sure.
Nice 1 Elliot and Kev…
Thanks for that. Good bit of teamwork this one. 👍
@@NarrowEscape1 indeed…
My word that’s one hell of a mess tc keep safe 👍
Hi you two!
It certainly is. Going to take some time to sort that lot out for sure!!
Compared with reopening the Kennet and Avon and the two transpennine canals, just a minor inconvenience.
Looks like, from clean cut tree stumps, that a looking operation was recently taking place. Maybe something to do with it 🙈
There’s no doubt that logging destabilises waterways banks and the sad fact is, it often leads to loss of local fish life too, with silt smothering eggs.
In this case the logging happened after the slip. The trees that came down were massive and so they cut them up so they could actually see ‘the mud for the trees’ 🤣🤣
The CRT are stating “climate change” as the cause…
What a mess, looks like a huge amount of land has slipped, probably all the rain we've had through feb, made the banking unstable?
it will be a dangerous job just working along there
Wow thats some landslide Elliott, reinforcement will be needed both sides one hell of a job .
It’s quite the thing isn’t it??!
The worry for the CRT is probably in how they can ascertain whether the rest of the banking is OK and not likely to go? That whole stretch is flanked by the high banking so is that liable to go soon after they fix this problem?
Either way you’re absolutely spot on - it’s one heck of a job!!!!
The navvies of old would soon clear this.
I was just thinking a thousand or so Irish navvies with shovels and the job's a good un. Those lads literally moved mountains when the built the canals and having done that they went on to build a railway system.
The canal path where this has happened has always been soaked underfoot even in the height of summer... I'm not surprised. Was very surprised to see the big yellow sign when running this yesterday though! Had to detour through the village.
Did they cut the trees down before or after the land slip?
Afterwards
those trees have been logged, removing trees that held up the bank wasnt smart
you make stupid statements without ever being there
Why is CRT statement calling that 'embankment' ? Clearly a cutting. Very different
Just tells you the level of competence...
The statement at 0:22 calls it a cutting.
@@johnclements6614 afterwards says 'accessing the embankment'
It will be interesting to see what the engineers propose for bank reinforcement. When the time comes to landscape it they will require trees and plants that have a deep root system.
Mark
Alberta, Canada
You’re absolutely right Mark and they must be looking at the rest of the cutting around here (it’s all really high banking on the run up to Brinklow) thinking about how stable that is…
Planting Will no doubt help but then look at all the established trees that slid down the bank and into the canal…
This is not an easy or cheap fix that’s for sure!!!
The original line went round the hill through Brinklow village where it has since been built on so it's not feasible to reuse that section.
Both sides of the cutting have been on the move and the canal channel has been reduced for years.
No, CRT don't have anything like enough money to maintain the system properly. Especially as any dredgings taken out are now considered to be "contaminated waste". It now costs ridiculous amounts of money to put back out on the land what came in from it! That's why it doesn't get done.
Until central government can be persuaded to recognise the value of our canal system and invest in it the situation will only get worse.
Contaminated waste, my ass. Its just silt, mud and vegetation. Just dump it on the side.
Cut trees = soil errosion= landslide.
Learnt that 50plus years ago in geography at school.
@@adoptedscot unbelievable what you work out from one small picture
Down to money and inadequate management in the immediate past!
This is so sad to see for all who use the canal system. With all the rain we have had, its not surprising where there are high banks, with tall trees, that something like this can happen. Someone on here said CRT is still getting government funding. Let's hope that this can be fixed and made safe as soon as possible. Just so glad no one was there when it happened.
Absolutely. It’s a very popular stretch of canal so it will be seen as a priority you would think but the money would no doubt have been earmarked for something somewhere else, which presumably now won’t be fixed 😢
Looks like they had been clearing trees from the area of the slide! Possible cause? 🤔
The locals think the fact the trees were left to grow so big has contributed heavily to the slip, but the cutting of the trees we see here now was done after the slip itself, so that they could see what they were working with and not just see ‘tree’.
I was going to hire a boat from braunston to head up the North oxford as it a beautiful stretch, it looks like it will be closed for a very long time now ,we are looking to hire the staff n woster now , the north Oxford is possibly the most traveled route out of any canal
It’s a shame Andy because as you rightly point out that stretch is just lovely. The CRT will want this cleared quickly for the hire boat trade but equally they need to work safely and determine if the surrounding banks are safe so all that does take time regardless.
Think your Plan B might well be required.
I’ll ask Kev to keep us informed and can either post updated video or pics via our Community Page.
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This is going to take forever to clear. The worrying thing is,what’s to stop it happening anywhere on the network that has cuttings like this and is currently experiencing high levels of rainfall
That’s exactly it Paul, how would they determine if the other banks are safe both here, because a good chunk of this stretch is like this, and elsewhere?
Maybe get a big bloke to go along and jump around the top of the banking and see if he can hear a groaning sound?? 🤣
@@NarrowEscape1 haha they do purposely cause avalanches to bring down loose snow. You might have something there 😂🤣👍
A true mess. Looks like the opposite bank is also slipping. Will make a nice geotechnical assessment and reconstruction.
That's an excuse any decent earthmoving contractor would have that cleared in a week
CRT seems to be full of excuses give it to a real earth movers they won't muck about
Interesting point but how many contractors can deal with the water element?
Can’t see why the CRT would be looking for an excuse?
It’ll there was an easy option surely they’d take it?
Could do with a large volunteer army to shift this...or the Actual Army..they have the machinery and logistics..
😱😱😱😱😱 I walked that tow path a few times over the years 😢😢😢
Got to go through there around 5th June, 3 months to get it sorted or I'll have to do the Grand Union Leicester line instead.
Me too, end of May 😂🦆💕
Whilst the CRT are currently talking a good game Kevin, I’d definitely keep your Plan B warm!!!
Fingers crossed Pam. The CRT will of course want this sorting quickly for all the hire boat traffic and trade that goes on around here but this doesn’t look easy. We aren’t technical people but clearing the canal is one task, but making sure the rest of this area is safe is another task on its own?
If people find this video helpful and Kev is up for it we can perhaps convince him to give us mini updates on progress? 🤣
@NarrowEscape1 in the pipeline of coarse....
Rose narrow boats will want this clearing as it's less affective sliding a 40 ton canal boat on hire over a pile of mud rather than water. I'll keep Elliott and Sue posted. If they agree ok to send some clips and Elliott can edit em lol.
Packing my spade for my next kayak that way..
So back in the day, this would have been removed manually. Why can't it be removed manually in this day and age?
Cost and time.
@@johnclements6614 Cost maybe, but time hasn't changed. Time is constantly ticking away. What about time wasted doing nothing? Time is money, is an old saying. The UK is no longer pro active.
@@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHSIt takes a lot longer to excavate by hand than with a machine. And time is money.
@@johnclements6614 Time is what it is cost is free with volunteers! If I lived close I would be up for clearing it. Get people on the dole, immigrants, and anyone else receiving from the state that is capable of work. Believe me it would be cleared in no time with just 100 people.
@@johnclements6614aaahh!God be with the days of Slave Labour,And the Navvies working for a pittance.😂😂😂
No problem. One bloke with a shovel and a handsaw could do that in 400 years.
Ha ha. You're not wrong!!!!!
Employ two blokes then and halve the time 😂
400 years? Get a group of volunteers down there every day, some shovels and it'll be done in a couple of weeks
It was originally dug by hand. 400 navvies, one year. 😊
Holy Smoke!
I can remember when the Tiverton Canal had a land slip and they managed to fix that.
It’s all doable isn’t it? Back in the day some burly navvies and a bunch of horses would have sorted it…!!!
Exactly. If lots of boats stayed there for a couple of weeks and worked every day with shovels, it'll be cleared in a couple of weeks. They should volunteer their time/labour. They're the people who want it open.
This doesn't look as bad as I feared. I live in an area that has many much worse land slips. It should be possible to bring in machinery from the top, cut a path down and start clearing the spill, most likely using gabions and/or soil nails, to reinforce the steeper areas.
They can get boats to both sides of landslide and alot poeple with shoves could get that cleared if its difficult for machinery to get to it be like when the canals where built by the navys
Back then you'd give 10 men a shilling a day and a shovel and they'd have that cut cleared in a few hours.
Today after a 2 year million pound feasability study group followed by another 2 year planning commitee as well as endless regulations to comply with only to end in an incomplete project due to running out of funding by which time more flooding washes everything away creating another avoidable catastrophe further down the canal...
Wow. I hope nobody was around at the time. Take care. ATB
They've nit dug anyone up yet and I heard no one asking for help. It's deep mud ...
Gonna visit again but stand on the mud where the canal should be unless they dig it out by this weekend..😊
Thankfully no-one was around when it happened Yvonne because canal boats aren’t exactly fast so you’d not be able to avoid it!!
Imagine being moored on that spot and hearing the slip start 😱😱😱😱
The whole remaining bankside looks very fragile and unstable. The government should help funding repairs
I suspect the CRT picked up the phone pretty quickly to central government, and the local council to ask for a whip round!!
Elliot do you know if CRT are going to have a whip round towards the cost of the repair.
Well, their official statement did start talking about the cost of it very early on!
Reality is they will probably have to redirect some money from something else they were going to do towards this problem. So, something else isn’t going to get fixed instead…just pushes the problems around the network.
.maybe cutting down all those trees whose roots are binding together the embankment was part of the initial cause.
It alters the sub structure of the ground, and making it unstable.
The trees came down with the landslide and have been cut so they can be removed. You are correct though, cutting and removing them would certainly make it more liable to subsidence
Problem is the tree roots can't go deep enough it's all sliding on sodden earth from drainage of fields above.
@@Kev_the-Brinklow-Kayaker not good mate
The massive trees are part of the problem rather than the solution. The roots are shallow so have little effect on holding the bank, but the massive weight of the trees coupled with the sideways force in strong winds is likely to have been the cause of the slip. @@paulturner7837
This could be closed for several years now until fundraising is completed….
shouldn't be, boaters have to pay canal license every year instead of council tax, its not cheap
@@spudspuddy How much do boaters pay, how many miles of canal are there and how old is it? If it's like road tax my car is only 30 quid a year. That won't even cover one pothole repair let alone an landslide. Sure there are lots of vehicles paying tax at different rates but we've known for years it doesn't cover the bills.
Where do they get hundreds of thousands of pounds from? Either someone is having their leg lifted or, as with many of these NGOs, are monies being moved nefariously?
What they need is a few Navies. They would dig all that out in a week for few grand.
You might have put a link to Kev's original video in your description.
That’s a good idea actually.
Link added 👍
I wonder if they will let it happen to a major road ...
The eastbound A40 near Monmouth was closed for ten days recently by a landslip much, much smaller than the one on the canal at Brinklow. Only a few barrowloads of soil closed the dual carriageway!
Oh my Word!!! Thats terrible
It’s incredible isn’t it Julie?!!!
We heard about it when it happened because we still have our notices on for the Oxford (because we really like that area and want to keep tabs of what’s going on), but we didn’t understand the scale of the task the CRT have until Kev pinged us over his footage.
Where do you start with this??
It’s a monstrous task.
CRT is loaded with money, they charge a fortune, have volunteer workers and beg for money, their admin costs are high too. Nederlands and Belgium l pay nothing for my barge.
Yes, just get lots of volunteers down there.
You need draglines to shift that lot.
My thoughts exactly, drag lines working from the top would have it cleared in a few days, with detailed work and rebuild from the waters edge with machinery thats floated in.
I think just getting equipment in and rubble out will take several months
You could well be right Gary. Given the location and the specifics it really can’t be easy!
Suspect the hire companies will be all over the CRT though to get it open!
Oh my
Couldn’t have put it better ourselves!!!
Tree roots help bind the bank, but were these trees allowed to grow too big? Imagine the weight of all that timber bearing down on a steep slope, it looks like the bank has come down with the trees, roots and all.
Was the the logging the cause or after the fact ?
In this case the logging happened after the slip. The trees that came down were massive and so they cut them up so they could actually see ‘the mud for the trees’ 🤣🤣
The CRT are stating “climate change” as the cause following a period of sustained heavy rainfall.
The massively overgrown trees are part of the cause of the slip. They should have been managed to keep them small and low but this has been neglected for decades.
They were certainly big trees for sure! The whole stretch had a gloomy air about it, even in summer.
Wow
Does this have any connection with the railway bank slippage, apart from the weather?
Good question. They are stating climate change and the heavy rainfall but what you read and what actually happens…
That part of the canal has been on the list for maintenance the last 10 years at least , and every year they decided not to !!
Well that's what happens when ya neglect ....
Canal trust were in that area in January with plans to reinforce the banking and towpath . They set up with scaffolding and were just about to erect it when someone spotted a vole.
Because of that vole they decided not to do the work planned !!
I heard this from an engineer...
They spent 10 grand moving machinery there and back .
Ya just couldn't make it up !!
Luckily according to the BBC , the trust have government funding till 2037 .
Jason - that’s super interesting. Do you have any detail? Email us at exploretheuk@outlook.com
Looks like a bunch of trees were cut down on that bank. Their roots hold in the soil and their demise could have hastened the disaster.
you worked all that out from one small photo...you know nothing..
@@sweetpea221000 I watched the video and saw many cut down trees.
they are clearing the bank@@vivalaleta
So allowing those trees to over grow and canterlever over the canal led to the inevitable collapse. This is a sign of much worse to come.
Hi,
Would you have a grid ref. for this location?
Thanks.👍
SP442801. I spotted a pylon on the video which pinpointed it. 🙂
Thanks for that, I went down today and took a few photos.👌
let the boaters have those logs for the burner
Exactly right!
Whole cutting is on the move,fix one section & another will slip, it's a money pit...
I know parts of the canal was straightened in the 1830's, how much of the old orginal route still exsist, could the go back to using that?
Now that’s a very interesting point Stuart. Suspect most of the old route is built over though?
@@NarrowEscape1There is a very good google map by David Mack showing the oxford canal routes on 'Canal World' forum', could post link if allowed.
Yes if you look at the videos that have been taken so not only is there this slip but if you look behind the workboat there's another slip on the opposite side of the canal 150 mtr or so south plus the slip nearer the bridge that they've already cleared and a 4th at the bridge on the offside as you say the whole cutting is in danger of collapsing a 2nd time. Might actually be better to build a tunnel and leave the ground to level itself over the top!
Here’s the link for everyone to see 👍
www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/109777-fat-boats-on-the-north-oxford/page/8/
I do wonder why people think it's perfectly OK to ignore barriers and signs forbidding entry onto the site that I have seen on other videos of this area. It means people who do observe these signs get lumped in with those that don't by the authorities.
Because people with no authority or reason think it is ok to close foot and cycle paths and route them miles round for no reason. I deal with my safety and no one else.
@@Gilespargiter If you can't see any reason not to be in an area of obviously unstable ground then I do hope you never need help when it goes wrong.I do believe that the Canal and Rivers Trust have full authority to close both canal and tow path for a reason that is obvious to any sensible person.
vacuum the soil out and float out the wood, simples perhaps?
Get the REME on the job those lads will sort that in a couple of day, the CRT will take for ever to do the job
Surely you mean the REs not the REME .
@@ianmclaren5297 yes I believe you are right ! I had it in my mind the RE had been amalgamated into the REME
It looks a real mess.
Indeed it does! They’ve got a job on there haven’t they?!!!
Why are there so many trees that look like they have been cut down ?
The CRT have had contractors down since the initial breach to cut away the trees, presumably so that they can then see ‘the wood from the trees’ and formulate a plan 👍
Some good fire wood there!!!
Bound to happen all rain we have had,
CRT do n t seem to have much resources from my watching the canal videos 😢😢😢
Sadly I think you are correct. Certainly this sort of thing will mean that something else that needed fixing on the network now won’t be getting fixed…
I bet you the head honcho gets enough of those resources though.
Don't need heavy machinery, Tushing for fallen tress with heavy horses .tory council will tender VIP Lane for contractors & chummy,chum,chums
Heavy horses would be a great sight to see wouldn’t it! Do it old skool just like it was back in the day 😎
You think it is just the Tories that are grifting? 🤡
Digging machinery with the reach could access the site from the landward slope, then load tippers above. Where is the nearest access for dump trucks after you dig out the spoil? So many basic logistical questions not being asked by the "experts" giving their opinions here. Ignorance making a mountain out of a mole sized landslide. Or an "authority" pleading for donations to support their salaries and ignorance rather than the cost of properly planned repairs?
What we do without experts like you.
Spend a lot more money fixing a problem than necessary due to ignorance and inexperience.
A little research into how many neglected canals were reopened might curb your ill-informed sarcasm.
@@dukwdriver2909 You are unique, the only person embittered by canals lol.
Both. Ignorance making much out of little, and an incompetent top-heavy woke authority finding an excuse to rip off the licence-payers even more.
As a retired Civil Engineer, I know that if you ask any professional, they'll tell you that it's just a fairly standard earth-moving case, no different essentially to hundreds that are being carried out every day on construction sites and road schemes all over. Where roads don't exist, temporary ones are made. Just standard operating procedures.
But this is CZcams, so we have to expect the usual nonsense.
Always the same story. A charity takes a hit and starts begging for money. It has, or should, have reserves, and the foresight, to expect the expected.
Their statement certainly started talking about the cost pretty early on!
A better question is why is working history (living and holidaying instead of hauling) and well established wildlife environments being looked after by a charity, not the government. We have ministers for culture and environment so the responsibilities are recognised already. The financial benefits surely outweigh investment in good maintenance.
Let us hope you have a wood burning stove .... ( ? ) , just needs all digging out .. ( ! ) ....... DAVE™🛑
I suppose the most frustrating thing is: who do we blame? In most situations, such as politics, crime or corruption we have someone to blame. Not in this case. I know, let's blame Boris. After all, he is the cause of all the world's problems, isn't he?
I suppose Cameron is to blame for introducing austerity, which deprived funding for the maintenance work on the rivers and canals in this country.
@@babylonsburning1Lefties choose to forget the reason for austerity due to Blair and Brown’s overspending to give the impression the economy was sound. Then blame Boris for the overspending and increase in benefits during COVID.
@@davidhoughton273You seem to have forgotten the US mortgage scandal, leading to the banking crisis and financial crash of 2008/9. To blame Blair and Brown is at best disingenuous, if not deceitful.
@@babylonsburning1 of course, the usual excuse, how did I forget? My apologies.
@@davidhoughton273Are you saying that this didn't happen?
No doubt blame it on global warming!
No, no, it's the war in Ukraine.
This is millions of pounds, not 100,000's.
Utter bullshit.
Another example of poor maintenance and lack of planning
You're spot on CRT shored it up few years ago but after the rain we've had its gonna go.
Always wet section muddy and sodden.
Really? So they were supposed to know the weather plans? They work on a very tight budget now some of the government moneys been stopped so they're dammed by people like you whatever they do... leaking gates you'll moan, landslip you'll moan, muddy towpaths you'll moan.... How's about sending them some money on large amounts to help them out or some free labour if it bothers you that much?
I don’t know enough about what’s gone on here but it doesn’t initially feel that this is due to poor maintenance, but maybe there is a question mark over the work done a few years ago?
So much rain recently really can’t have helped and this area, from our memory at least is very shaded and always seems to be ‘wet’, even going through in summertime we commented to ourselves that it felt ‘gloomy’ and damp.
Anyway, it’s going to cost big time now but thankfully no-one was moored here when it happened (probably because it’s so gloomy and moist 🤣
And no one wants to pay for it.
Agreed, a complete failure to keep the tree growth under control, now going back decades
Was silly to put it threw a vally every on know that
put what there? the canals were a route for shipping 200 years ago its not a new funfair ride
What a silly comment!
Put it down to the climate crisis. 😅