Who Makes The Best Manor Class Locomotive? | Dapol VS Accurascale

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  • čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
  • Today we have a comparison video with the 2 Manors in my collection , Dapol Dinmore Manor and Accurascale Hinton Manor. We are doing a brief run-through of the detail and performance of the locomotives and seeing the areas they do well (and not so well) and concluding who makes the best Manor.
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Komentáře • 29

  • @M_ADAX
    @M_ADAX Před 6 dny +3

    My guess with the safety valve is they didn’t want to copy dapol (even though they made the same bloody loco 😂) and made the chimney shiny instead
    6:27 if you were that desperate for the cap opening, you can actually just take off the water cap on the dapol one 😂, but it’s not hinged ofc
    7:10 SLIGHTLY! Coby paid £178 for foxcote (Hinton) 😂😂😂😂😂
    Overall the accurascale one is much better , but I prefer the dapol one because of how simple bits are

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 6 dny +1

      They both have their strengths and weaknesses , but overall are both great locomotives.
      The Accurascale one just pips it!
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @davidhinks8384
    @davidhinks8384 Před 3 dny

    I have the Dapol manor and chuffed with it. Just too many new GWR locos available which is a lovely problem, so I couldn't get an Accurascale one as I have three more locos on preorder. Great review, cheers.

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 3 dny +1

      I don't blame you! The Dapol one is superb!
      Hahaha I know the feeling I have quite a few on pre-order now!
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @chrissouthgate4554
    @chrissouthgate4554 Před dnem

    Just a thought, slow speed running is important for shunters; High speed for mainline work. Yes, a good total range would be best, but that is not always an option.

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před dnem

      Yes this is certainly true , and the Accurascale does run very smoothly at a more realistic speed for what it would do with coaches or goods.
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @anthonymizen9095
    @anthonymizen9095 Před 22 hodinami

    I really hope one of them releases Foxcote Manor in BR green…whoever does first gets my vote!

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 19 hodinami +1

      Would be epic to see
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @Northerner_Transport_Hub

    Personally, I prefer the Dapol one
    Better tender connection
    Still made in the UK (Wales)
    When they came out, Dapol were the cheaper ones
    The Dapol one (in my eyes) has the nicer wheels
    Looking closely at both of them, I think the letters on the Dapol one are also better.
    the Accurascale one is lovely, but I'm not keen on any of their products just to how high they seem to mark up every model they have (apart from the P Class and Barclay, but they're Hattons locos, so my point still kind of stands)

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 6 dny +2

      I actually think Accurascale's prices are reasonable compared to the competition. It's Rapido who's on the higher side.
      The Dapol one has its qualities , the tender connection is the best in the industry and they are available for less , and the slow speed performance (on my examples at least) is superior.
      The Accurascale doesn't win by a massive margin , it is very small , it's mainly over the quality feel from the metal work and the better level of detail that it wins , and it runs slightly better if you ignore the slow speed.
      But I really like the Dapol one , and highly recommend them!
      Thanks for watching :-)

    • @M_ADAX
      @M_ADAX Před 5 dny

      I mean the price thing you said is completely invalid when you take into consideration that dapol raised the manor RRP to £151 and the Acurascale manor is £169 for a DC one , I paid £250 for my sound fitted one from TMC and my dapol 7819 was £160. I prefer the accurascale manor as it has a much nicer finish and a Matt smokebox, whereas the dapol manor has an almost “toy like” finish , the wheels especially, the one good thing the dapol one has is the tender loco coupling , otherwise accurascale is far better.

  • @chrisbaines6931
    @chrisbaines6931 Před 3 dny

    I've not played with the Dapol Manor. i have 4 Accurascale ones which all run really well on DCC, i've had no issues with performance and the crawl is good on DCC.
    the finish on the safety valve bonnet is purely down to preference. i hate the over shiny looking ones as they only ever look like that in preservation. anyone modelling BR era steam will not want a super shiny safety valve bonnet. Its my understanding the GWR used sand and oil to polish them so they would never be a high shine item.

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 3 dny +1

      Ah fair enough! I like the shiny but the Accurascale one still looks great!
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @kellyashfordtrains2642

    Dinmore Manor's firebox glow would have been brighter, if a certain Trusted Friend of mine hadn't slammed her hand down on the box before I took the engine to you. Also, my birthday, Sat. 6th July, is only one week away. I would like to see both Manors strutting their stuff on your railway, as I think Accurascale are just as good as Dapol. One of my newest models (Hunslet 16in 0-6-0 saddle tank engine) is of Rapido status, and she has a very bright firebox glow. The glow is just shy of matching Accurascale Hinton Manor's firebox glow. I've sold some of my other models in the Cash Converter Shop for a great price. This week, King Richard 2nd will join my new N Gauge fleet.

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 6 dny +1

      The Dapol firebox glow is that level of brightness regardless.
      Also ill see what I can do Kelly!
      Thanks for watching :-)

    • @M_ADAX
      @M_ADAX Před 6 dny

      Whatever your friend did to the box has nothing to do with the firebox - accurascales is just better 😂

  • @crewelocoman5b161
    @crewelocoman5b161 Před 2 dny

    Interesting comparison. However, you have not mentioned the one glaring and obvious visual difference between these two models. The taper on the boiler of the Dapol version is exaggerated between the firebox and the safety valve bonnet and down to the smokebox completely ruining the appearance of the loco. Visually the Accsc. is the better looking model. That inaccuracy rules out the Dapol model for me. I also note that the tenders on both models appear to be unrivetted. The tenders on the Manors were left overs from Churchward designs are were fully rivetted, some being modified with slightly greater capacity. I have seen unrivetted Churchward tenders behind Manors on the West Somerset Railway but they look to have been complete welded tank rebuilds undertaken in recent years.

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 2 dny

      Oh that's a good point , thankyou foe raising it!
      It does seem that the Accurascale is the better locomotive visually.
      What I like about this video is it brings people's points of view together , I could make a follow up video about it with people's comments.
      Thanks for sharing your view mate , the Dapol does seem slightly less accurate than the Accurascale model on the whole.
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @cirseltoo
    @cirseltoo Před 2 dny

    I suspect that the "which is better" depends on what you want to do with it. I buy for running on exhibition layouts, and my stuff has a hard life. NOTHING from Accurascale in my collection (13 items so far) has yet failed to have bits drop off in use- to the extent my Accurascale Deltic has been sold on as I daren't run it. Dapol stuff is still in front line service- and that means well over 50 locos in two scales. Why not run them intensively and look for the better survivor?

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před dnem

      My locomotives do get run pretty often so maybe in the few years my judgement will change. But both seem to run well and the Accurascale Manor seems pretty well built , or at least my example is anyway.
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @PaulFellows3430
    @PaulFellows3430 Před 4 dny

    Is the Accurascale one fully run-in in both directions? If not, the slow speed might well improve when running -n is completed and the mechanisms have loosened up and bedded in.

    • @modelrailfan37
      @modelrailfan37 Před 4 dny +1

      This is quite typical of Accurascale’s Manor, it uses a small three-pole motor similar to what is in a Hornby Peckett… while these motors are great in the Peckett, the Manor has larger driving wheels, faster gearing, and is heavier, meaning there is no torch in the Accurascale Manor at slow speeds.

    • @colinmeredith7114
      @colinmeredith7114 Před 3 dny +1

      As Acc's know, I ran two of their Manor loco's for many more hours than I can remember and they will still stop on the track, in various places, and sit there with the wheels spinning around with the loco' not moving forwards or backwards!! I have a few hundred loco's but none of them do that!! Useles and CRAP 3-pole motor!!!!!! They were told to fit a 5-pole motor from the start but decided to cut-costs and turned a potentially very good model into CRAP!

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 3 dny +1

      Yes it is run in. But it could be down to the 3 pole motor.
      Thanks for watching :-)

    • @modelrailfan37
      @modelrailfan37 Před 3 dny

      @@colinmeredith7114 very well said, I’m not sure what they were thinking by fitting that motor…

  • @lukestevens8735
    @lukestevens8735 Před dnem

    What controller are you using?

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před dnem +1

      I have a Hornby HM2000 and Hornby classic non-feedback for locomotives which need it
      I am going to be changing these both down the line though
      Thanks for watching :-)

  • @colinmeredith7114
    @colinmeredith7114 Před 3 dny +1

    The Dapol has a superior 5-pole motor, the Accurascale has a tiny piece of rubbish 3-pole motor in comparison....if you want a nice looking clock that doesn't give accurate time..?? I have two Acc's Manor class models and they are badly let down because of the absolute rubbish motors and bits that fall off or break off when you look at them. To strip and fully service the models properly...give me the Dapol Manor Every Time! The Acc's wiring is too long and badly routed and don't expect the firebox to stay in place-poor fixing, again and it's a female dog to keep the wiring neat and feed back through to the tender! As you stated, the wiring to the tender is also far too high and looks ridiculous. A few too many plastic parts on the Dapol that need replacing...do that and give the smoke box a coat of matt black and you have a better-looking Dapol Manor. A good video, well done!

    • @ryanjohnball23
      @ryanjohnball23  Před 3 dny

      Your points are valid! The motor in the Accurascale isn't as good
      Thanks for watching :-)