Do be careful about distinguishing never used and infrequently used, or used in non-revenue service. The Preston Hump is used when both 86 trams divert via Brunswick and St Georges Road if Smith Street or Northcote High Street are blocked; and at night when 86d trams from Bundoora run short runs to Dundas St/Plenty Rd then Preston Depot.
Every proper Melbournian understands that every tram on Bourke Street almost NEVER has a seat available. You want to feel the closest to being crammed in a Japanese train? Take the 96 between Crown/MCEC and Swanston Street on a nice Saturday.
Depending on what you define as a tram, the new longest tram in the world is the A Line in Los Angeles, which makes a crazy 78km journey between Long Beach and Azusa via downtown Los Angeles, with a mix of running along city streets, down old railway alignments, over viaducts, through a freeway median, and through multiple tunnels. It was made by joining two pre-existing lines and joining them in the middle, making one behemoth line.
It's interesting that the Route 109 tram has boom gates over its road crossing, but the Route 58 tram doesn't have any boom gates where the tram crosses Elliott Avenue. The Route 96 is also an odd one due to its light rail/conversion heritage with lots of fun facts. My favorite is that it passes under another tram line and then crosses over one itself!
as someone who uses the 82 almost every day, Moore st stop is used quite frequently as it is a interchange with the craigieburn train line so the notion that it is the least used is very hilarious, the real fun fact about it would be is it is least touched on stop on the network
You've made a really interesting video, years ago my wife and I had a holiday in Melbourne, our first there and after dinner in town we got the first tram we saw, and that was to Essendon airport and back, we were the only two passengers, it was a great journey, chatting to the conductor as we went.
That Miller St tram-hump in Preston is the last scene in the great Australian Comedy & "Tram" film, Malcolm. Very last shot, is Malcolm's "Tram" going west, up the east/High St side of it, then credits roll, as it continues. (Tram is in " " , as if never seen Malcolm you've never seen a tram like is used, in final scenes of Malcolm)
I really enjoyed this, thanks so much! I'm a Route 86 native so hearing songs about the 86 hits me right in the soul. Birds of Tokyo's song Smith Street references the 86 tram as well!
Hey mate. Thanks for the video. I love trams and they are my primary transportation. I grew up near Kew Junction, where I was a few hundred meters from the 24/48, 109, and 16(69). It was a perfect spot to make use of public transport. One of my essential requirements when moving house is that it's a few minutes walk to a tram. The furthest out of the city I have lived is end of the line Vermont South (75). Love trams. Thanks again for sharing.
9:00 i used to catch the 96 to work every morning. one day the tram drove past my usual south melb stop (on a day i had an important meeting) and i had to run back from albert park-no wonder it felt like the longest run of my life! 😭
Good old line 96 reminded me of a very embarrassing gaffe I made way back when. I had to catch a train down to a Tele-Cine film place in Middle Park, so I consulted my trusty old Melways and deduced I needed to take the St Kilda line down to Middle Park station. I got to Flinders St and began looking for the St Kilda line platform, which was not indidcated for some reason. I then ask one of the station attendants who look at me like I'm a complete idiot. He then informs me with a chuckle that I'm about 10 years too late as the line got shut down in 1987. The year of this story was 1997. Embarrassed as all hell, I explained that I was using a Melways from 1986 (which still has the old St Kilda and Port Melbourne lines) and I've never actually traveled down that way since arriving in Melbourne in 1989. He just laughed and gave me very detailed directions towards the nearest 96 tram stop.
Great video, it's crazy that someone figured out some of these... how do you even begin to notice a terminus platform being the only curved one, or a platform being the most south most. On a different note, it would be really good if for future videos you could put a compressor on your voice-over audio track. A compressor can help reduce the loud parts and boost up the quiet parts of your voice-over, as this video has a lot of jumps in volume that meant I had to constantly ride the volume button to keep my ears happy. There are a lot of tutorials out there but if you need some advice or default settings to use, just let me know. Also if you speak not directly into the microphone but slightly to the right or left out of line with it, you will avoid a lot of plosive and sibilant sounds (p/t/k and s/z sounds) that blow out the mic as the sharp bursts of air from your mouth won't directly be hitting the mic.
The Preston Hump was a short tram line with route number 9. It ran until 1995 and was the short tram route. The tracks here were layed in 1916. At this time there was no East Preston also called old Preston Depot but Thornby Depot that was located on the other side of the new Preston Depot.
Stop 35 on rt82 gets a lot more passengers than that; at least every other tram picks up or sets down a passenger there in the footscray direction. Myki data's got no clue. The other direction, to moonee ponds, is a lot quieter, but still more than 1 passenger a day.
pretty sure route 70 was the route where I blatantly did not have any form of ticket (no myki, nothing) right next to two cops doing ticket inspections, which I now find pretty funny. the trams are always something I look forward to whenever I'm up in melbourne because at last! reliable public transport!
Great video 👍 Love the idea of barreling down Chapel St in a VLocity (the whole route would take about 2.5 mins at top speed). Looking forward to the next video!
the track in Mills St Albert Park is used to store Shuttle Trams during Grand Prix and major events like the st kilda festival etc. but not used operationally in every day ops unless its to store a disabled tram which gets towed there.
Whenever I'm in Melbourne and need to get to Little Collins St from Spencer Street Station (I still it that despite being a kid when it was renamed), I just jump on any tram along Collins St to Elizabeth St. I once caught a tram to Windsor to visit a shop there and almost missed the stop. Next time I decided to just get the train and from Sandringham as it was less confusing (and I could ignore any Extinction Rebellion nitwits blocking the tramline). Urgh that was not a fun day.
Thanks for an informative video, complete with up to date information on the recent route changes. Route 59 used to turn right off Matthews Avenue and head into Essendon Airport. Also, I'm not sure that no tram has ever used that section of track off Route 12. I have a vague feeling that I travelled on it once back in the 1980s, with that terminus being known as Albert Park Beach I think. Might have been a special charter working rather than a scheduled service. Have now found photos of trams at Albert Park Beach terminus (Mills Street) one of which is a charter tour with B1.2001 on 20 Jan 2001.
@@marksc111 The trams that were being used required some upgrade works to do with safety matters but this was not able to be done so they were no longer able to operate. I believe this was back in 2018 or earlier, certainly pre-pandemic.
cool video! And its not just the 75 that's had its record taken - 64's south brighton terminus (and christchurch too) might have to eventually cede its title to Hobart, with its new light rail in the coming years...
I remember years ago on the 67, the entire Tuganini Rd curve was single track all the way so trams would sit at the end of Glen Huntly Rd waiting for the tram coming the other way
I love the video! I have to disagree with your fact about the 12 route however; that area of track DOES get used, and is utilised for trams to quickly change destinations. It happens fairly frequently; when it does happen the route number will change to “12a: Mills St & Danks St”
@QazzyTransport - on the Route 12, the terminus is used regularly, whenever trams are recovering from a disruption, this is one of the short shunts that allow drivers to get back on time. What makes it really unique, for the moment, is that this location has the last remaining single-bladed point on the regular network. I belive that Preston Depot still has one, it is in the depot though and not on the running network.
The Albert Park Beach siding on route 12 has not 'never been used'. In years past it was used for short working trams, footy extras when South Melbourne's home ground was at Lakeside Oval before they buggered off to Sydney, and more recently during the Grand Prix. Boom gates were re-installed on the 109 following a fatal accident. The Tramways Union wanted to retain the original railway boom gates, similar to the Glenelg line in Adelaide, but the dumbclucks who were managing the system ripped them out and replaced them with traffic lights. After the accident the booms were put back, albeit to a different design than the original railway booms.
7:35 The line10 of Basel/ Switzerland is 26 km long - urban and interurban - and even international because one stop is in France 🇫🇷. I always watch Melbourne tram videos to see if I can spot one of our ex-Mulhouse “Bumblebee” C2 Trams in the white and green livery… Greetings from France 🇫🇷
I was going to add a fun fact about my local tram route, the 82 - that it's the only route that doesn't touch the CBD. But then I checked the tram network map, and discovered that the 78 also doesn't touch the CBD. So I've learned another thing, and the Wiki entry for route 78 confirms it.
8:30 This is also odd because it is the closest tram connection to Ascot Vale station and runs down the main road which doesn’t even have a bus route on it.
amazing video, so cool to hear all these facts, one thing, wouldnt anzac station be the newest tram stop since domain interchange was removed, the park st stop was built, then that was removed then anzac station was built?
there used to be many more routes but most were just short workings of longer routes. As the city grew these shorter routes were used less and less until being officially dropped entirely in 2014 and replaced with the a/d system where short workings and diversions are labeled as 58a, 64a, 3a, etc, and trams returning back to the depot are labeled 86d, 16d, etc
I haven’t used public transport in Melbourne in 4 years. I cycle everywhere that is close and drive it’s way to far. Then again I’m the type of person who rather walk for 1 hour than take a 18m tram ride.
there used to be many more routes but most were just short workings of longer routes. As the city grew these shorter routes were used less and less until being officially dropped entirely in 2014 and replaced with the a/d system where short workings and diversions are labeled as 58a, 64a, 3a, etc, and trams returning back to the depot are labeled 86d, 16d, etc
This was fun. Thanks. But please, flip your selfie footage so all the signs aren't back-to-front and it doesn't look like Melburnians don't know which side of the road to drive on.
I believe the tram drivers' toilet for the Route 72 terminus is in the motel adjacent to the terminus, accessed from the car park off Cotham Road - a bit of a hike from the terminus itself.
@2.05 a bit wrong here , when an 86 can't go down High st Northcote they need to divert over this hub and head towards the city via St Georges rd.Been on a 86 a few times when this happened.
linguistics and tram enjoyer here: qazzy have you lived your whole life in australia / are your parents from overseas? sorry for the weird q but i'm looking for research candidates into a specific australian accent!
1) does the new parkville platform stop in route 19 now count as the newest stop or a rebuilt stop? 2) I believe the MCG stop on route 70 is the only stop with a lift as you were in the area (And I would take any passenger data from the 82 with a grain of salt!)
67 isn't a small suburban St, it's the main way to get from Glen Huntly Road to Koornang Rd, two of the busiest roads in the area. Don't see how you can measure tram stats, when the trams can't even record the numbers.
trams can and do record passenger numbers! They record whoch tram you catch, which route you catch it on, and are able to tell which stop you got on at
@@QazzyTransportas you said in the video the longest distance between tram stop is 750m, there isnt an accurate way for a mobile myki reader to record exact stop destinations
In regards to the Mills/Danks section that is "Never used" this isn't true. Occasionally it is used as a shunt for trams running late, so that rather than going all the way to the terminus, they can regain some time. The points in the shunt of that section are very unique as they only have a single blade, rather than the regular 2. Source: I work as a Tram Driver for Southbank, Part time, Covering Routes 12, 30 and 96
not sure where you made the assumption that its common for the end of most routes to connect to other parts of the network... the 1,11, 19, 58, 59, 86 all terminate at the end of line without any continuation of track!! so not sure where that assumption came from.
i meant that most routes that do end at a connection to the rest of the network, have a short track stub that connect its terminus with that part of the network
there used to be more routes that were short working of longer routes (eg 95 would be a route 96 tram that terminates early) these fell out of use over time and were replaced entirely in 2014 with the a/d system, so you can find trams like 12a, 48d, etc
@@DwDiablo3 route 67 used to be route 4 but was renumbered as part of a network overhaul years ago, which included the renumbering of quite a few routes. I don't think route 2 has ever existed, and if it did then it probably wasn't documented or those documents have been lost to time
2:07 correction - this terminus is used occasionally for trams during disruptions. It has never been used by TIMETABLED trams in normal service.
Do be careful about distinguishing never used and infrequently used, or used in non-revenue service. The Preston Hump is used when both 86 trams divert via Brunswick and St Georges Road if Smith Street or Northcote High Street are blocked; and at night when 86d trams from Bundoora run short runs to Dundas St/Plenty Rd then Preston Depot.
Will always be some clown who "forgets" to get off at South Melbourne and then carries on all the way to Albert Park
Every proper Melbournian understands that every tram on Bourke Street almost NEVER has a seat available. You want to feel the closest to being crammed in a Japanese train? Take the 96 between Crown/MCEC and Swanston Street on a nice Saturday.
i know - i live along route 96
Tell me about it! They need to run more services as it's always busy, at least on the southern part of the route
I'd say the 48 or 75 after a footy match at the MCG is worse.
This would also be somewhat solved by having more 30's across latrobe, and a general increase in some tram frequencies.
The 72 route taking 25 kilometres to get to the 109 route bit just like 30 metres away is hilarious. Fun fact. I enjoyed this one!
Depending on what you define as a tram, the new longest tram in the world is the A Line in Los Angeles, which makes a crazy 78km journey between Long Beach and Azusa via downtown Los Angeles, with a mix of running along city streets, down old railway alignments, over viaducts, through a freeway median, and through multiple tunnels.
It was made by joining two pre-existing lines and joining them in the middle, making one behemoth line.
It's interesting that the Route 109 tram has boom gates over its road crossing, but the Route 58 tram doesn't have any boom gates where the tram crosses Elliott Avenue. The Route 96 is also an odd one due to its light rail/conversion heritage with lots of fun facts. My favorite is that it passes under another tram line and then crosses over one itself!
They're the bounciest boom gates I've ever seen.
as someone who uses the 82 almost every day, Moore st stop is used quite frequently as it is a interchange with the craigieburn train line so the notion that it is the least used is very hilarious, the real fun fact about it would be is it is least touched on stop on the network
You've made a really interesting video, years ago my wife and I had a holiday in Melbourne, our first there and after dinner in town we got the first tram we saw, and that was to Essendon airport and back, we were the only two passengers, it was a great journey, chatting to the conductor as we went.
Thats really wholesome, sounds like you had a lovely time!
Conductor! That was a long time ago then. (Conductors were eliminated around 1997ish. I miss them.)
The 109 tram song would have been a good mention for the end of the video. Enough said.
That Miller St tram-hump in Preston is the last scene in the great Australian Comedy & "Tram" film, Malcolm.
Very last shot, is Malcolm's "Tram" going west, up the east/High St side of it, then credits roll, as it continues.
(Tram is in " " , as if never seen Malcolm you've never seen a tram like is used, in final scenes of Malcolm)
i have seen Malcolm, it's a great movie - just a bit worried with copyright
I really enjoyed this, thanks so much! I'm a Route 86 native so hearing songs about the 86 hits me right in the soul. Birds of Tokyo's song Smith Street references the 86 tram as well!
Hey mate. Thanks for the video. I love trams and they are my primary transportation. I grew up near Kew Junction, where I was a few hundred meters from the 24/48, 109, and 16(69). It was a perfect spot to make use of public transport.
One of my essential requirements when moving house is that it's a few minutes walk to a tram.
The furthest out of the city I have lived is end of the line Vermont South (75).
Love trams. Thanks again for sharing.
9:00 i used to catch the 96 to work every morning. one day the tram drove past my usual south melb stop (on a day i had an important meeting) and i had to run back from albert park-no wonder it felt like the longest run of my life! 😭
Good old line 96 reminded me of a very embarrassing gaffe I made way back when.
I had to catch a train down to a Tele-Cine film place in Middle Park, so I consulted my trusty old Melways and deduced I needed to take the St Kilda line down to Middle Park station.
I got to Flinders St and began looking for the St Kilda line platform, which was not indidcated for some reason. I then ask one of the station attendants who look at me like I'm a complete idiot. He then informs me with a chuckle that I'm about 10 years too late as the line got shut down in 1987. The year of this story was 1997.
Embarrassed as all hell, I explained that I was using a Melways from 1986 (which still has the old St Kilda and Port Melbourne lines) and I've never actually traveled down that way since arriving in Melbourne in 1989. He just laughed and gave me very detailed directions towards the nearest 96 tram stop.
Great video, it's crazy that someone figured out some of these... how do you even begin to notice a terminus platform being the only curved one, or a platform being the most south most.
On a different note, it would be really good if for future videos you could put a compressor on your voice-over audio track. A compressor can help reduce the loud parts and boost up the quiet parts of your voice-over, as this video has a lot of jumps in volume that meant I had to constantly ride the volume button to keep my ears happy. There are a lot of tutorials out there but if you need some advice or default settings to use, just let me know. Also if you speak not directly into the microphone but slightly to the right or left out of line with it, you will avoid a lot of plosive and sibilant sounds (p/t/k and s/z sounds) that blow out the mic as the sharp bursts of air from your mouth won't directly be hitting the mic.
The Preston Hump was a short tram line with route number 9. It ran until 1995 and was the short tram route.
The tracks here were layed in 1916. At this time there was no East Preston also called old Preston Depot but Thornby Depot that was located on the other side of the new Preston Depot.
Stop 35 on rt82 gets a lot more passengers than that; at least every other tram picks up or sets down a passenger there in the footscray direction. Myki data's got no clue.
The other direction, to moonee ponds, is a lot quieter, but still more than 1 passenger a day.
pretty sure route 70 was the route where I blatantly did not have any form of ticket (no myki, nothing) right next to two cops doing ticket inspections, which I now find pretty funny. the trams are always something I look forward to whenever I'm up in melbourne because at last! reliable public transport!
i’ve been trying to get more into the melbourne public transport scene recently and this video was super fun to watch! thanks for the fun facts :)
Great video 👍 Love the idea of barreling down Chapel St in a VLocity (the whole route would take about 2.5 mins at top speed).
Looking forward to the next video!
Another really cool video! Well done. Love a good fun fact 😃 I like #64 so much I had to look it up on the map!!!
This was really interesting to watch. You've done a lot of research to produce these videos well done and keep up the great work! I am enjoying them 🙏
the track in Mills St Albert Park is used to store Shuttle Trams during Grand Prix and major events like the st kilda festival etc. but not used operationally in every day ops unless its to store a disabled tram which gets towed there.
read the pinned comment!
Love your videos, gives me my hit of Melbourne public transport fascination
So many interesting facts. Thanks for putting this together! 😎
Some pretty interesting facts here, with some I already knew and some I didn't. Great video.
Whenever I'm in Melbourne and need to get to Little Collins St from Spencer Street Station (I still it that despite being a kid when it was renamed), I just jump on any tram along Collins St to Elizabeth St. I once caught a tram to Windsor to visit a shop there and almost missed the stop. Next time I decided to just get the train and from Sandringham as it was less confusing (and I could ignore any Extinction Rebellion nitwits blocking the tramline). Urgh that was not a fun day.
My guy really went all over Melbourne to stand in front of a couple tram stops... 🙃
route 109 has not one but two songs about it
this is great, I'm going to be impressing my mates with these facts next pub session
This video is a 9/10 because there was no 109 tram song and didn’t see Montague street bridge get struck by a truck
Very interesting and well researched. Thanks 👍
Great video! I miss Melbourne, such a great city. One year since I left.
That was good. Well done. I'm now a subscriber 👍
The 86 needs to be extended to Mernda.
Cool video! This will be very useful later on.
Hello mate
Thanks for an informative video, complete with up to date information on the recent route changes. Route 59 used to turn right off Matthews Avenue and head into Essendon Airport. Also, I'm not sure that no tram has ever used that section of track off Route 12. I have a vague feeling that I travelled on it once back in the 1980s, with that terminus being known as Albert Park Beach I think. Might have been a special charter working rather than a scheduled service. Have now found photos of trams at Albert Park Beach terminus (Mills Street) one of which is a charter tour with B1.2001 on 20 Jan 2001.
interesting!
I would wager a bet this stretch was also occasionally used by the restaurant trams. (What happened to those, anyway?)
@@marksc111 The trams that were being used required some upgrade works to do with safety matters but this was not able to be done so they were no longer able to operate. I believe this was back in 2018 or earlier, certainly pre-pandemic.
@@gregmichael8473 Yeah definitely was in the 'Before Times' that I last remember seeing one. Thanks for the info 😌
Thanks for this video, it was interesting
cool video! And its not just the 75 that's had its record taken - 64's south brighton terminus (and christchurch too) might have to eventually cede its title to Hobart, with its new light rail in the coming years...
will be interesting to see whether that Hobart tram they've been talking about ever gets built
I remember years ago on the 67, the entire Tuganini Rd curve was single track all the way so trams would sit at the end of Glen Huntly Rd waiting for the tram coming the other way
Glad to see a video about this ❤ 😎
The Port Melb section of the 109 is also the oldest rail corridor in Australia
It’s a good day when you upload
Lot of interesting tidbits. Well done mate
thank you!
Interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
Good video mate :)
I love the video! I have to disagree with your fact about the 12 route however; that area of track DOES get used, and is utilised for trams to quickly change destinations. It happens fairly frequently; when it does happen the route number will change to “12a: Mills St & Danks St”
pinned comment.
@@QazzyTransport I’m so sorry, I must have missed it! Thanks for replying to my question, have a good day! :)
@QazzyTransport - on the Route 12, the terminus is used regularly, whenever trams are recovering from a disruption, this is one of the short shunts that allow drivers to get back on time. What makes it really unique, for the moment, is that this location has the last remaining single-bladed point on the regular network. I belive that Preston Depot still has one, it is in the depot though and not on the running network.
The Albert Park Beach siding on route 12 has not 'never been used'. In years past it was used for short working trams, footy extras when South Melbourne's home ground was at Lakeside Oval before they buggered off to Sydney, and more recently during the Grand Prix.
Boom gates were re-installed on the 109 following a fatal accident. The Tramways Union wanted to retain the original railway boom gates, similar to the Glenelg line in Adelaide, but the dumbclucks who were managing the system ripped them out and replaced them with traffic lights. After the accident the booms were put back, albeit to a different design than the original railway booms.
source for the route 12 one?
@@QazzyTransport I've witnessed it.
7:35 The line10 of Basel/ Switzerland is 26 km long - urban and interurban - and even international because one stop is in France 🇫🇷.
I always watch Melbourne tram videos to see if I can spot one of our ex-Mulhouse “Bumblebee” C2 Trams in the white and green livery…
Greetings from France 🇫🇷
If you really think the distance between those 2 stops on 96 is long, go see the Bucharest Metro. Nice vid btw
distances between metro stops will always be much longer
Always entertaining for a country person.
It's ALWAYS the case when you want to get on the other line YOU just MISS the departing tram only by seconds.
10:24 I’ve got another interesting 109 route fact: it’s the only tram route in Melbourne that crosses the Yarra River twice
I was going to add a fun fact about my local tram route, the 82 - that it's the only route that doesn't touch the CBD.
But then I checked the tram network map, and discovered that the 78 also doesn't touch the CBD. So I've learned another thing, and the Wiki entry for route 78 confirms it.
One of only two routes that don't cross the CBD is still a fun fact, in my opinion.
8:30 This is also odd because it is the closest tram connection to Ascot Vale station and runs down the main road which doesn’t even have a bus route on it.
2:10 I have seen route 12 trams use that section only when they are not running the whole route during disruptions or special events.
My friend who worked at the old South Melbourne depot told me he used it to park the tram while he went to the pizza shop
amazing video, so cool to hear all these facts, one thing, wouldnt anzac station be the newest tram stop since domain interchange was removed, the park st stop was built, then that was removed then anzac station was built?
sort of? I'd consider it an upgraded version of the Domain Interchange tram stop, since its at the same location
Great video! It would be cool to learn about how they name each route, there's no obvious logic to it.
there used to be many more routes but most were just short workings of longer routes. As the city grew these shorter routes were used less and less until being officially dropped entirely in 2014 and replaced with the a/d system where short workings and diversions are labeled as 58a, 64a, 3a, etc, and trams returning back to the depot are labeled 86d, 16d, etc
Makes me sad that every other city ripped up its tram system :-(.
And now various cities around the world are slowly putting them back!
I haven’t used public transport in Melbourne in 4 years. I cycle everywhere that is close and drive it’s way to far. Then again I’m the type of person who rather walk for 1 hour than take a 18m tram ride.
The airport rail link I believe will take out the need for the 901bus
You should do a video on why the route numbers are what they are 😀 I’m curious 🧐
there used to be many more routes but most were just short workings of longer routes. As the city grew these shorter routes were used less and less until being officially dropped entirely in 2014 and replaced with the a/d system where short workings and diversions are labeled as 58a, 64a, 3a, etc, and trams returning back to the depot are labeled 86d, 16d, etc
Hey qazzy love your vidroe t5om bede
This was fun. Thanks. But please, flip your selfie footage so all the signs aren't back-to-front and it doesn't look like Melburnians don't know which side of the road to drive on.
Route 72 also has 2 Toorak Road stops, but it never reaches High Street like 16.
I believe the tram drivers' toilet for the Route 72 terminus is in the motel adjacent to the terminus, accessed from the car park off Cotham Road - a bit of a hike from the terminus itself.
thats interesting
Aw man, I hate having numerical gaps… and there are so many missing routes!
They all used to exist though, I don't think we ever just straight-up skipped over any numbers.
@2.05 a bit wrong here , when an 86 can't go down High st Northcote they need to divert over this hub and head towards the city via St Georges rd.Been on a 86 a few times when this happened.
The 67 terminus used to be a single track till they took the points out at the end of glenhuntly road.
Huh, the light rail section is actually quite pretty. Maybe I need to change my opinion on light rail lol
It's because it was a train line.
linguistics and tram enjoyer here: qazzy have you lived your whole life in australia / are your parents from overseas? sorry for the weird q but i'm looking for research candidates into a specific australian accent!
lived my whole life in australia. one parent is AU other is NZ
1) does the new parkville platform stop in route 19 now count as the newest stop or a rebuilt stop?
2) I believe the MCG stop on route 70 is the only stop with a lift as you were in the area
(And I would take any passenger data from the 82 with a grain of salt!)
1. rebuilt stop
2. that's cool, I didn't notice it
We need the 109 tram song ;D
Love
ok
Was this video a school project or a passion?.. Nice vid btw..
passion
I think the route 58 tram will go back on to domain road given the new rails turning onto that road around Anzac station
i doubt it, it would mean route 58 trams couldn't interchange with st kilda road trams as they cant stop at anzac station
The reason why route 109 has those far stops is because it used to be a train line in the past
i know!
67 isn't a small suburban St, it's the main way to get from Glen Huntly Road to Koornang Rd, two of the busiest roads in the area.
Don't see how you can measure tram stats, when the trams can't even record the numbers.
trams can and do record passenger numbers! They record whoch tram you catch, which route you catch it on, and are able to tell which stop you got on at
@@QazzyTransportas you said in the video the longest distance between tram stop is 750m, there isnt an accurate way for a mobile myki reader to record exact stop destinations
@@74_pelicans if they can track what stop the tram is at, they can track stop patronage
U have to include the 109 montague st bridge
(1:52) is NOT a "platform" but actually a tram ramp, used the unload trams from semis
not talking about the ramp, im talking about the platform in the foreground
stop 35 on the 48 route has a stop labeled with 48 and 24 which is weird
bro how is ur accent australian, american and british all at the same time 🫨
In regards to the Mills/Danks section that is "Never used" this isn't true. Occasionally it is used as a shunt for trams running late, so that rather than going all the way to the terminus, they can regain some time. The points in the shunt of that section are very unique as they only have a single blade, rather than the regular 2.
Source: I work as a Tram Driver for Southbank, Part time, Covering Routes 12, 30 and 96
You see his editing at the end 😂 10:52
not sure where you made the assumption that its common for the end of most routes to connect to other parts of the network... the 1,11, 19, 58, 59, 86 all terminate at the end of line without any continuation of track!! so not sure where that assumption came from.
i meant that most routes that do end at a connection to the rest of the network, have a short track stub that connect its terminus with that part of the network
I thought the TTC 501 was longer, at 24km.
what's that?
@@QazzyTransport A streetcar line in Toronto.
@@itechcircle9410 seems to me that there's no trams that run the full length?
@@QazzyTransport You must be right. I think it changed since I last looked.
4:42 wait a minute! You're actually a cute boy this whole time?!
ok
How come there are so many gaps in the numbers of the lines?
there used to be more routes that were short working of longer routes (eg 95 would be a route 96 tram that terminates early) these fell out of use over time and were replaced entirely in 2014 with the a/d system, so you can find trams like 12a, 48d, etc
Why would you pop up a picture blocking the tram on the curve!?!?
i wasn't blocking the trams in any photo, which one are you talking about?
@@QazzyTransport0:40 great for tram spotting!
Aren't you discounting loading gauge with your route 78 fact?
standard gauge vlocities run on the same gauge as the tram network
@@QazzyTransport Loading gauge is different to gauge as in width.
He did a face reveal😮
this is the 2nd video ive shown my face lol
@@QazzyTransport oh
Why is there no Tram Route 2 and 4?
those are not the only numbers that are skipped
@@QazzyTransport i know, but do you know why?
@@DwDiablo3 route 67 used to be route 4 but was renumbered as part of a network overhaul years ago, which included the renumbering of quite a few routes. I don't think route 2 has ever existed, and if it did then it probably wasn't documented or those documents have been lost to time
Bro forgot route 95!
doesn't exist
95 doesn't exist anymore, it was abolished years ago when they were simplifying the network and getting rid of peak-hour-only routes
Here’s some: it is stipulated by law that every 109 tram must have at least junky, and every 86 an aggressive lunatic on board.