Zira obsessing over Scar and revenge for 6 minutes straight
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 18. 05. 2022
- Lion King 2 is so underrated man... I grew up with it and looking at it now, it has awesome messages throughout the film. Zira is also underrated af. I'll make a highlight video about her in the future đđœ
#lionking #zira #villians - Kråtké a kreslené filmy
Zira: Disney's first Yandere.
PLSS
Nah Tinkerbell is
Girl was ready to kill Wendy đ
she's like NOTICE ME SENPAI
@@thegodzillaboi2113 Literally
What does that mean
Itâs actually scary how Zira was that obsessed with Scar she would rather die than accept to join the pride
I also think being under Simba's leadership was a factor. She also wanted to be Queen, so being a simple pridelander wasn't enough for her. What a villan lmao!
@@atlantis329 yes, what a villain
Lion version of bellatrix lestrange
@@kaouther333 I SEE IT NOW
Said prideâs leader killed her mate, took everything she had and then casted her and her children into no manâs land to scrape by. If that wasnât bleak enough, she lost her son, Nuka in the middle of the movie and her adoptive son who she trained up for many years to take back their home turned on her. I think she was so clouded by grief and rage at that point that it made it impossible for her to think clearly.
I'd like to imagine Scar watching this happen 90 percent of the time and going "I have no idea what she's talking about."
ME TOO
Scar: âwho are you again?â
While canonically leering at Nala
@@sweetcinnamonpnchkin OH EW
Him next to Mufasa like: "...Ayo, she fuckin' crazy."
Scar: "Bitch I'm gay"
âI did nothing-â âEXACTLY.â
Why did I bust out laughing.
Lol.
Time ?
@@Hypolil 4:07
@@bricesicle Thanks
@@Hypolil No problem!
You could say he left a scar on her
nooođđ
come on man- đ
Listen here, you little sh-
đ I'm sorry but I laughed- â
Listen⊠itâs a good jokeâŠ
No cause imagine growing up in Zira's pride đ
Nahhhh
I rather die too
I feel bad for any lioness in her pride
LMAOOO
I don't have to imagine.
Can we talk about the contrast between Zira's death and Scar's death?
Scar died helpless desperately trying to convince the hyenas to not kill him and begging for his life with Simba before that, Zira was offered help yet she decided that killing herself was better than the mercy the people that killed Scar (in her mind) offered.
Scar's death occurs while everything is on fire, Zira dies in the water.
Scar died because of his betrayal, Zira died because she was too loyal.
Scar and Zira are, in a way, opposites from each other despite both being villains and their death's reflect that.
Zira did try to get back up at the last second, but it was too late due to her taking too long. She only realized at the last moment that she was going to get what she wanted. I maybe remembering it wrong.
@@Queen_Raven_ Well in the first version of her death, she died of suicide but it was to dark for a kids movie. So they left out the dialogue of this scene but kept the rest of the scene so I think she still did suicide.
Underrated observation
Wow
So they were PERFECT for each other. Nice.
holy shit, the things they cut out of the zira death scene, whoa holy fuck that added so much in just little nonverbal things, wow. just, wow
I have a few thoughts as to why they maybe wanted to scrub it away. First. It was basically her offing herself. This is a kids movie. They wanted to play it safe and not have the villain quite literally commit slip and slide. Another reason I think they had was that that âneverâ line sounded so creepy. It couldâve scared children. It sounded similar in tone to that clown in the brave little toaster that says âRunâ and I know that scared a lot of kids. And with Ziraâs deranged look while she says that line it wouldâve scared kids. But with this being said I do wish they had kept it. I mean. HAUNCHBACK EXISTS, and Disney made it just fine with all of the dark, DARK, shit in it. They can have the villain willfully let themselves perish. I mean they literally made the villain in Tarzan accidentally hang themself on a vine.
@@onyxtheowl24 I mean to be fair, we didnât see that Tarzan villain get hung and Frollo burning into a crisp (we see both of them fall, but not what happens when they get down or we just see the aftermath only slightly camouflaged), both were unintentional, while Zira chooses to die by her own claws and Kiara (who is probably in her mid teens if not late teens) literally watches her do just that. âSlip and slideâ would have been too much for kids to understand and WAY too much for parents to cope with seeing because itâs a serious topic and chances are that someone in that particular family possibly died they their own hand and the family got screw up emotionally from.
Honestly it isn't too surprising someone can end up like this.
This is why it's important you never put someone on a high pedestal, you have to think critically and openly. Zira was likely too influenced by her infatuation with him, and more then likey she believed propaganda he could have spread.
her personality traits dont make her the victim. once the suppossed victim harms others there should be empathy for her. she made herself the villain scar just influenced her she decided to willingly accept a weak Lion that was starving weak and flat like she is they look like crack heads.
Damaged people fall for others just as damaged, or even more so damaged than them. Don't know if it was Zira's case but she definitely reminds me of someone who projected herself onto Scar or pitied him so much that she fell into that infatuation.
@@user-wn3wv5bx5e Damn... This is so relatable. I think I'm f***ed...
Yeah it is like MAGA, people who live in North Korea, and the Nazis. People with a brain only focus on themselves and not put someone else on a high pedestal!!
I still believe Scar and Zira was mates of some sorts why else would she obsess over him? He overhunted and caused the pridelanders to starve and didn't care
well I've seen many comic writers takes on it, either they're mates, Scar is just highly manipulative, or in one, Zira is actually Scar's daughter and Scar kept manipulating and using the fact zira wanted just a little bit of attention from him against her, heck, Nuka's father in this comic, Scar killed him and his whole pride when Zira left to be with him because Scar showed her no love at all
Is he not in canon?
@@Deactivatedsorry nope, maybe at one point in canon, but by the time of Kovu they arent mates, as they didn't want Kovu and Kiara to be related, so while Nuka may be Zira and Scar's child, Vitani and Kovu are not
Maybe itâs like a Ted Bundy cult thing, sheâs attracted to the madness and had a kid with a lion that looked like Scar. Or they were mates, Scar got her pregnant, and died
Personally I also think it is almost certain that Zira and Scar were a couple at some point, or at least Zira was obsessively in love by the way she mentions him. Although since it's not entirely clear some people have other theories, like Zira could be Scar's daughter for example (that would also explain her extreme fanaticism and idealization).
Zira definitely runs a Scar stan forum on tumbler and her pride members are the users. And you know for a fact they be doxxing Simba and sending death treats to his (remaining) family
Thatâs my HC an I will die in this hill
@@hollyccomb4201 Bro, she'd be making Scar/Reader fanfics đ
Iâm taking this HC Iâm sorry itâs too good to ignore.
@@LenaHyena Zira never died. She just moved to AO3
â@@hollyccomb4201 to unite with her long lost sister to get revenge on Simba
I love how you kept the deleted scenes for this video, it really does add to her character
@Mari glad someone sees it
God. This deleted scene of her whispering "No. Never." is absolutely chilling. Wish they kept that part, really would have shown her obsession with Scar better. TLK2 is such a great movie there's not one character I dislike in there.
Also ironic how Kovu ended up becoming king, or more like being Simba's possible successor to become one, just not like how Zira would have wanted.
Well technically he wouldnt be king or Simba's heir per se since the lineage is through Kiara
Well kovu actually had a good heart but he was manipulated by Zira but I think that scar used to have good heart like simba which was destroyed by his father I think maybe đ€
I also noticed that when she fell it played the same music/sounds as when mufasa was thrown off the cliff by scar
Here's a fun idea.. what if the final version of Zira's death was Kiara's way of coping? She was traumatized by Zira willingly throwing herself off the cliff so she convinced herself it was just oh, she slipped and fell and I couldn't save her. It was an accident. Seems like something Kiara might do. And since she's the only one who saw it happen, the others just take her word for it and it's "canon".
U think too much, nah
this is my personal heeadcanon now!
That's so interesting, I like that take.
@@wheresmycoffee8230 Cuz they stole your coffee đ
You mean kiara ended up with denial about zira choose death ?
Zira was literally the only person who believed Scar was "ten times the king Mufasa was."
What a whiny baby
I never realized how super obssessed she was with Scar as a child like did he even know she existed? đ
he probably hung in that cave to avoid her crazy assđ
Scar did interact with her during his life (as Zira claimed that Scar taught her about the Roar of the Elders).
They have at least one child in common, this should serve as a confirmation of their ties in the past Xd
"This is gonna go perfectly."
Immediately cut to Nuka's death: "This did not go perfectly"
I'M SORRY THAT WAS SO FUNNY
That part had me rolling!!
Zira in another way is like one of those mothers who emotionally replace their spouse or partner with their child
Iâm pissing myself rn đđ
I actually wish they had kept in those first two deleted scenes. It would make Kovuâs actions make more empathetic, and actually show why he might feel attached to a literal dictator.
I also removes the incest concern because he isn't scar's son by blood
I really like Zira as a character, she's got a powerful presence and weight in the story. I do wish they explored her story more, like why was she so obsessed with Scar? Why did she end up in the outlands(yes I know that answered that in the Lion Guard but it was super vague). I feel like they could have redeemed her or just made her less evil so she wouldn't be a constant threat. In the movie they explore Simba's trauma, I feel like they could have done something similar with Zira. Like Scar manipulated her, which we know he's great at manipulation, so having a scene were she realizes everything Scar told her was a lie and seeing Scar for who he truly was, could've been a powerful one. Maybe after that she rejoins the Pridelands or she heads off on her own. But I still adored her character regardless, just would've loved to see more
As much I would love that as well, I think how it ended was important, you can't help everybody, sometimes others are simply too far gone, and sometimes we don't get to know all the answers and the full story, that's why her character is so intriguing, if we were to learn more about her though, that would be possibly exciting. ^^
Maybe we could have a separate movie dedicated to and ending with a good Zira.
I agree with this so much!! I wish she had more development and maybe even a chance to be redeemed.
While I second the other reply in this thread that "Not everyone can be redeemed because at the end of the day, it's THEIR choice" is a pretty important message, I do think it would be neat to explore her backstory.
Because yeah, now that you mention it, why WAS she so obsessed with Scar?
i like how even though she never got much screen time, her character motivations are so clear you could easily assume solid answers to these questions. mufasa already had a queen, but zira craved power. u can tell that she enjoyed the thought of being scars ruling partner and while she may have actually loved him, her love for his power is more blatant, explaining why she comes across so obsessive, being by scars side was probably the peak of her life in her eyes because itâs when she held the most social power. i wish they showed previous interactions between her and the rest of the pride before she became an outsider, if she got along with them or was more of a cynical outcast like scar too. i believe she left the pride solely because scar was killed and she no longer was queen, but her having strained relationships with the other female lions would be fun to explore. sheâs a cool character for sure, but overall her tragic ending is what gives her character so much meaning and importance, if anything iâd like content between her and scar, and to keep her dark demise the same. did he show affection towards her or was he callous? wish we could see how they interacted. while redemption is the path most people go down for their favorite villains, the thought of her being just as manipulative and power hungry as scar, making it understandable why she couldnât accept that scar would lie to her, because she believed that intellectualally they were on the same level, is far more impactful than her just being another victim of his. it gives her her own devious voice, and it makes her far more interesting if she connected with scar because theyâre so similar morally, than if she was just manipulated into being a female scar
Although her character is a little more obsessively than insane loyalty like I thought before, I can't help but have a soft spot for Zira
True Brotha I feel ya
same, i love her
Same
All four of you are simps for ZiraâŠ..nice
ur done
âScar and I were close... *very* close...â
...maâam this is a Disney Junior show
She knows what she likes. We know what she likes. There is no sugarcoating it.
She knows. She doesn't care.
@@timy.9512 She likes that âpride rockâ if you know what Iâm saying.
Long story short: Zira was Scars mate and Kovu was their son. Then Disney realized that would make Kovu and Kiaras love story very sweet home Alabama, so they changed it but left her obsession over her âleaderâ in.
it's funny how they realized that but never addressed how nala isn't related to simba when the only other adult males in the pride were simba's relatives
@@tiablue9106 it was confirmed by Disney to be some random male lion that we never see. I donât blame disney though since having only 2-3 male lions in a pride is realistic to how real life prides are
@@kevinnigins9488 that wouldnât make sense because alpha male lions kill the cubs that arenât theirs.
Kovu is scars adopted son
@@kaijukirby6424 the lions in The Lion King are supposed to behave like humans not actual lions (if they were trying to make them behave realistically Simba would have killed Nuka, Vitani and Kovu).
well, we must agree that what Zira wanted happened, Kovu becoming king, but it didn't happen the way she expected.
Zira was such a good villain, Iâm surprised how underrated she is honestly. She struck genuine unease in me when I was younger that not a lot of other villains could follow. Such a shame really
It's largely due to how abusive she was. It's "real" in that sense.
"HAND chosen by Scar to follow in his PAWprints"
When you look up âpsychological manipulating mothersâ you find a JPEG of Zira
Or Odalia
Mother gothel maybe?
Nobody:
Zira thirsting over a dead man:
Zira: I want his pride rock in me.
Since disney hates acknowledging their sequels I thought the lion guard was replacing lion king 2. I love that film and believe it's far better than the first film. So I was shocked seeing how much the show acknowledged lion king 2.
I don't forgive lion guard for it's mistakes of course but the constant respect for lion king 2 makes me less harsh on it than I would've been otherwise.
I stopped watching lion guard a long time ago so what exactly happens?
@@leandraleo281 The only few episodes of that show I watched lol, basically they gave a little story in between Lion King 2 beginning and end. Kion meets Nuka and Kovu AFTER the first confrontation between Simba and Zira in the movie. After an arc i didn't even watch where Kion grows, he comes back to see the aftermath after the ending of LK2, where Kovu is already accepted in the Pridelands.
It's the last two episodes of season 2 if you want to watch just those.
@@TDArulesclub4 And the last episode is potentially teen marriage and I feel so uncomfortable with that fact.
@@mysryuza I mean lions on average live 12-15 years. If we take it by 15 years, 1 year would be equal to about 4-5 in human years. Kion looked about 3-4 there so letâs say 17-20 in human years? A lot of people get married at that age
@@TDArulesclub4 Scar returns in the Lion Guard.
Zira: *Wants Kovu to become King to fulfill Scar's dying wish*
Also Zira: *Refuses to join the pridelands*
Kovu: *Married Kiara and becomes King*
Scar: ... You really committed suicide when you could've had what you wanted to begin with?
Zira: .....
Keep in mind that it's also not about gender but bloodstatus.Yes,Kovu becomes King but it doesn't matter since Kiara is the reigning Royaltys Offspring, therefore she will be the leader and Kovu is 'only' the leaders mate
No cuz Kovu's intention was to marry Kiara for Kiara.
Kovu will be king but not following Scarâs rule.
@@angiereyes7856 mhm so they got their wish for Scar's heir to be king but not how they wanted. But hey, happens irl sometimes too. kids taking over but not following their parents rule
I think is more about revenge, she wanted to kill Simba due to Scar's death, plus she still wanted to be Queen.
I like how exactly when she lets go it plays the sound that played when Scar grabbed Mufasaâs paws, ready to throw him.
Can't say I blame Zira; Scar is badass
It surprises me that zira is the only one obsessed with scar
@@camilaalmiron5588 even women in real life are obsessed with him and his Jeremy irons voice lol.
@@N.I.A23 right đđ
@@camilaalmiron5588 She was definitely the matriarch.
@@N.I.A23OF COURSE đ„
I love how menacing she is, how cunning and calculating. She is the perfect mate for Scar.
Woah, I had no idea there were so many deleted scenes. Too bad these never made the final cut, they're awesome! Here's to hoping they all get fan-animated eventually. And I love everything you mentioned throughout the video. Ngl, Zira is one of my favorite Disney characters in general due to the way she was written. She's a veyr interesting character when you think about it.
You're seriously reminding me to finally rewatch these. XD
And I gotta say, GOD I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT MY LULLABY! It might just be me, but I think that it's almost as well done as Be Prepared with it's execution and it's a very chilling sequence all around. They did amazingly with it.
Aww man, I forgot how amazing Suzanne Pleshette did as Zira. She was an incredibly talented woman.
Also poor fucking Nuka, he deserved better than pretty much being the comic relief untl he died. T_T
I am currently working on a comic book- itâs a Broadway musical adaptation of TLK2, with original songs and new scenes. One new thing I added to the big fight at the end was a final duel between Zira and Kovu, and Zira slips off the edge of the rim of the gorge. Kiara holds her hand out to help her, but she instead tries to attack Kiara, and when Kovu tries to get Kiara away, Zira loses her grip and falls to the water below. I thought it would be poetic to have Zira die because of an accident caused by the kid she tried to brainwash the hardest.
@@aericabison23 alright, this seems so epic!
I think some people have animated the deleted scenes, not all of them though. I have seen Ziraâs suicide and the Madness of King Scar. They were both really good! I wish we couldâve seen them in the actual movie. They probably removed them both because they werenât as âchild-friendlyâ as they wanted it to be.
@@aericabison23 Oh wow! Iâd love to see it! Will it be released any time soon?
@@sznsk still working on it; so far I have released the first half of Act 1. I havenât gotten to âMy Lullabyâ yet. You can check the videos out on my CZcams channel.
Bro ok, off topic, but I feel so validated knowing that I'm not the only one who enjoyed The Lion King and doesn't like The Lion Guard. Thank you đđđ
I deadass thought I was the only one too-
I get yall, season 1 and 2 are literally a child show but season 3 man, it gets dark fast.
I watched the whole damned thing because people were raving about the sToRy. Boy, was I disappointed when the "story" took two seasons to develop. The only episode I genuinely enjoyed was the one where Kion and Kiara go to some place with Nala and learn to appreciate each other. Other than that, I don't care that the hyraxes are trying to yeet themselves, I don't care that the zebras are stupid, I don't care about the roar, and I don't care about the tree of life (why the FUCK are there animals from across the globe?). Oh yeah, and I don't appreciate that Mufasa could have just zoom called Simba in the first movie but chose not to. I guess Simba "learning his lesson" after being traumatized was more important than saving his WIFE and subjects from suffering. Also screw Nuka I guess, because despite him having a VERY important role as the catalyst for Zira's pride breaking apart, they just... don't mention him at all in the last season. And no, I don't believe it's because of Andy Dick because they hired plenty of other people to voice characters with previously established voice actors. I think they just genuinely forgot. I guess to boil it down, TLG has major Teen Titans Go vibes regarding its quality compared to its predecessors.
@@Spinogrl2000 I agree sooo much. I personally also disliked how they made the characters, especially their personalities. For example: In the second movie, Kiara really doesn't like the idea of being a queen one day. She's also playful and a bit wild. And then in The Lion Guard, they chose to portray her as a complete opposite. She's full of herself, acts rather bumptious and serious and seems excited to be the next queen. Like what? The same with Simba. And Kion.. bro, I can't explain how much I dislike him. He's the same age as Simba was in the first half of the first movie, yet he acts like some friggin sergeant, who was trained the whole life to act certain way. His character is annyoing and unbelievable.
The villains miss the spice. I literally loved both Scar and Zira in the movies, but none of them has the same magic to them as they did in the original. The other villains, such as hyenas and jackals, have literally no motivation other than 'lol I'm evil'. It changes a bit when Scar appears, but until then, they're just boring. You would think you'd at least see some cool fights and stuff, but nope. The lion guard can handle anything, it doesn't matter if the fights are boring. And if all else fails, Kion just roars. How original /j.
To sum it up, I really can't find anything to like about the show.
Yaeh deadass it's still bugs me. It was a waste of time. Although some small parts I could say I enjoyed but most of The Lion Guard was bad.
5:20 and kiara even looks at her like: âwtf Iâm trying to help you ladyâ
You know what would've sealed the deal on how clinically insane Zira is? A god damn swan dive into the river instead of just falling.
Despite being the main antagonist of a direct to dvd Disney sequel, Zira is a far better villain than she has any right to be. The deleted scenes in particular give some very enlightening context.
Hard to believe Zira is the same voice actress as Yubaba from Spirited Away and Kobu's voice actor voicing Haku too
I find it really funny to imagine Zira is just like an obsessive fangirl. (also I'm pretty sure we're supposed to interpret it as Scar and Zira being a thing but I refuse because I could never accept/imagine Scar in any romantic/sexual relationship)
He probably was like "oh no not this lioness again đ"
but he wanted to mate with Nala, yâ know? That was in the original script
â@@kseniaixbalam2826He wanted to, yeah, but it was only out of lust for her pretty looks and the desire to have heirs as soon as possible rather than any genuine feelings of love. I personally don't think he could even feel anything resembling "love".
@@patronsaintofprocrastinationdamn, thatâs rlly sad đ bro cant feel emotions
I don't think Zira meets Scar when they were juveniles. I bet it was during his reign. She could had lost her former mate and father of her children (according to the diretor himself, any of her cubs were Scar's).
After the mate's death, perhaps murdered by a rogue lion that Zira don't accepted as new mate, she and her lionesses ran away. I think she was pregnant with Vitani and Kovu, and Nuka was a bit big cub. Then, they entered the pride-lands and meet Scar, he let them stay if they promes loyalty to him. As the time was going on, Zira come more and more close to Scar, eventually he turned her his queen (the diretor also confirmed that she was his queen). So, Simba returned and happened all the final fight, I bet that while that, Zira was givin birth to Vitani and Kovu in a nearby cave and her lionesses were hunting anywere. Even, I think that after Scar confess his crime to Simba and the lionesses of the pride and the hyenas come to his aid, he come see Zira and the newborns, then chose Kovu. After Scar left the cave, Simba saw him, chased him and they fight on the top of pride rock.
That's an interesting theory but Scar had lost his roar before the first Lion King movie, so if he were to teach her about it, it would've had to of been during his time as leader of his lion guard. So he would've been younger then
@@LenaHyena I see your point, but he could had explained it to her during the time i belive (and think it's more accurate) they meet eachother. I also belive that Zira, when arrived in pride-lands, was in the start of pregnancy of Vitani and Kovu, a lion gestation last three-four months, bearing that in mind, she and Scar had a lot of time to know eachother.
@@tiagoking1312 A good theory but I feel like she would've found it hard to believe without actually seeing it, plus I doubt Scar would've brought it up. But we can agree to disagree. I like that people have different theories about it đđœ
Kovu isn't the real son of Zira
@@cheyblake2475 Kovu isnât Scarâs son, that was confirmed in the second movie. Whether or not he was Ziraâs biological son, thatâs up for interpretation
I like to think deep down Zira knew that Scar wasn't as good as she said he was, but is essentially in denial. She seems more obsessed with this idea of Scar she created rather than the person he really was.
I don't care what anyone says zira's lullaby is đ«iconicđ«
the way Zira rejects Kiara from her rescue with a smile on her face leading to death is chilling
2:10
Scar in the next world: My child is being tortured...
Zira when she arrives in hell: Scar, finally, I am with y- HOLY SHIT! WHY IS MY SON BEING TORTURED!
Scar: Because this is hell. What did you expect?
As a child I knew that Zira was loyal Scar and would do anything to get revenge for him, but I didnât realize up until recently that she was just OBSESSED with him.
Itâs even more unsettling that she mentioned was destined to be his âqueenâ once he was kingâŠwhich is weird because Scar never once mentioned anything about her or other outlands lions when he took over. My theory is that when scar was exiled, itâs likely that he needed a way to survive the outlands so Scar uses his smarts and silver tongue to wormed his way into Ziraâs pack, filling their ears with lies of him being banished wrongfully and vows to take the Pridelands back as his own. He even manipulated and charmed Zira with false promises and even adopted Kovu to make things more convincing.
Once he was ready, he left the Pride behind with A false promise that he would return for them once he becomes King. Itâs also likely that he forgot about them during The whole duration of the movie.
Yo that last deleted scene sent chills down my spine too bad they didnât keep it but it wouldâve traumatized the kids.
Scar: You're not affiliated with me!
I wish they left the first parts of the vid in the movie because it gives Zira more character than what she was given
Seriously, if she had planned to attack pride rock sooner she would have met scar, a flaming fire demon manifestation of scar. But she was a damn fucking week, or less, late.
5:45, pretty sure if they kept that scene in alot of kids would be in terror at her face, and adults traumatized because they understand shit.
the look on her eyes when she says ever is just so creepy
Man she was deeply obsessed with someone who truly couldnât give a crap about her, thatâs how brainwashed she was.
@@friidrottskarlsson3878 yeah
@@mochi5512 scar isn't THAT heartless. I'm sure he gave a LITTLE bit of crap for her, even if it wasn't alot.
@@Enderwave22 he killed his own brother to sit on a funky rock, heâs that heartless
This woman could read the back of a cereal box and still make me questions my sexualitiy
IT'S A LIONđ
@@fyodorsliceeater5137 Your name, too? But yeah. Sod animations for this, too?
Bad choice of words...
She died.
Babeđđâ€ïž
4:55
Fun Fact:
Zira has been around since Taka was a cub.
Scarâs real name was confirmed to be Askari they probably knew each other since they were cubs hence Ziraâs line âScar and I were close, very close, he taught me all about the roar (which probably means he kept giving her information about the roar until he lost it)â
@@No-hd4cg
The other stories say that his name was Taka.
@@alyssagross5360 yeah but they arenât canon. Ford Riley (a writer for The Lion Guard) says his real name is Askari.
The lion guard really wasted a good opportunity to have Scar and Zira to have a conversation.
It's scary to think about that Simba could have easily went down the road zira went if it weren't for Timon and Pumbaa Rafiki! And Mufasa
The fact that this is literally most of Zira's screen time in the whole movie makes it better. Every scene she's in she's just a full on Scar simp đ
3:13 I totally had the hots for Kovu as a child esp this scene lol I was sooo obsessed with this movie I would watch it everyday đđ
He's a goddamn lion though-
Low-key I still do bro đ€Ł but not that scene because even as a kid I cringed
Bestialist
@@gazingth3horizon949 I missed the part where that is my problem
@@gazingth3horizon949 so, heâs still fine as fuck.
Honestly the scariest thing she does is when she says âNo⊠NeverâŠâ letâs go, and slowly drops into the water while staring at kiara with pure evil in her eyes. That scene still is creepy to me.
Zira was a female simp for Scar. Also that must have been traumatizing for Kiara when she was trying to save Zira, but she refused and let herself die to be with Scar. Especially when you put the deleted scene into the context of the movie.
i never knew that she chose to fall in the deleted scenes, they shouldâve kept that
In the movie, you can see that she's still smiling while falling.
Zira when she comes to hell: Hi Scar! Remember me?
Scar: *Suddenly feels uncomfortable*
I LOVE ZIRA SO MUCH YOU DONâT EVEN UNDERSTAND I LOVE YOU TOO WTF
oh, word??? đł
I mean- đ
@@thishuman1621 perhaps... đ¶
Maybe⊠đ€«
I can see the romantic chemistry here
4:03 Even looking like Scar and Zira's obsession with him, she hated Kovu for her son dying.
5:48 she didnât even squirm like how animals usually do when they fall. She really had no hesitation and no fear, thatâs how obsessed she was.
Ah I wish the creators would develop more Scar and Zira background. Theyâre such a power couple with really intense and interesting dynamic between each other đ€
We could've seen that in Lion Guard.
Find someone who will be as devoted to you as Zira is to Scar
Lol! I donât know why I found that part funny âThis plan is going to go perfectly! *Kovu betrays Zira, and Nuka dies because of that*âŠthis plan did not go perfectly.
It would be nice if they kept the concept in 1:03, having Zira telling her children they belong in the pride land too, since it is a dream of her she wants to fulfill for a better life. Not only cause of herself or Scar, (even though those two reasons are the most we get) but for her pack and cubs too since she seem to slightly care about them, I mean taking care of her pack is her responsibility and she mourned Nuka's death. It would be a nice touch knowing her wish came true in the end by keeping this scene or concept of it, not just the end Zira wanted it but as the good and true ending. W a happy ending for her cubs that were left. Since we later see in the movie's ending Kiara stands up telling that the other lions are lions too and should get to live in the pride lands aswell. That they belong here. There could have been a connection between those two scenes that actually would matter. Though if Zira was written slightly more merciless and had a motherly side (which she actually showed to care) she might would have get some empathy and therefor that scene would matter more, but obv that was not the intention at all since the movie wanted to portray her the way she is in the vid lol.
I hate how Zira gets so upset that Kovu unintentionally killed Nuka yet Scar ALSO killed his brother but on purpose. (Also Zira only realized that Nuka was worth something whenever he died.)
@@toaster1037 I guess that makes sense, but she poured her blood, sweat, and tears into training Kovu while ignoring Nuka and only acted like he was worth something to her when he died, which is kinda messed up.
@@toaster1037 True and she did point out that she liked the bad side of Scar multiple times throughout the movie, so I don't think she saw him as innocent
@@toaster1037 and, ironically, the one child she neglected the most ended up being the most loyal to her.
She cared about Nuka but it's obvious she didn't about Mufasa
@@AlfieTrevor4444 When did ever she care about Nuka? She neglected him his whole life! đ
5:49 wait wtf thatâs so much more dark than what we got in the movie holy shit
Yeah thats why it is delted movie Scene because its too creppy for childern
Zira: *Lives and breathes for Scar*
Scar: *SARABI WILL BE MY QUEEN*
Iâm already imagining Zira crying in a corner over not being chosen
This clears up my childhood question of why she was smiling when she fell, makes so much more sense with the deleted scene
2:10
Kovu be like: *(I would rather get discipline then seeing my mother like that)*
1:48 yes! THANK YOU! Finally! Somebody who agrees with me plus Simba is partly to blame because he threw Scar over the cliff where he knew the hyenas would be waiting and waiting for Scar and he just let them do the killing instead and let them do the dirty work so technically yes Zira was right
I'm not sure he knew the hyenas would be there because it was technically Scar that bitch smacked him into that spot. But he definitely saw him get mauled by the hyenas. Part of me feels like the hyenas would've eaten regardless if Simba came back or not because of how poor of a leader Scar was becoming. I agree with you to some extent tho
@@LenaHyena
Besides the fact that it was propably Simba who exiled her. You know.
@@saagabragi6938 Ya, that was confirmed
wait are we seriously blaming Simba now for the death of a dictator who had it coming? I love Scar because he is entertaining and funny but he's not the victim by any means
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 We're not calling Scar a victim. We're talking about how the situation looks through Ziraâs eyes. Obviously, *to her,* Simba is the one to blame for his death
Scar is the beauty and she's the beastđ„
What? đ€š
Lmao Imagine being Zira's cub and telling her I don't think Scar was that great and powerful đ
The movie made it seem like Zira was debating in her head to change and let the past go while hanging on for life, but was too late to admit it hence the screaming when she fell. But in actuality, the deleted scene shows that she wanted to die to be with Scar fell silently in contrast to Scar begging for life.
Zira's last words was actually haunting!
Zira: *widened eyes/whispering* "NO!" "NEVER!"
The music score gets me every time. I have shivers listening to it during Zira's struggle on the rocks before her death. It's so sad to see her go. She reminds me of my mother. Thank you so much for the psych analysis, it's been years since I've seen the movie. I know what I'm watching tonight!
But Zira has got to let things go and peace needs to restore.
I think thatâs extreamly creepy she smiled while hanging over a raging River about to die and said âNo⊠Never.â Really puts the emphasis that she choose death and hatred over her own life. But I agree they should have added it. Probably would have been the first time in animated movie history that a Villan smiled at death and welcomed there defeat right at THE LAST SECOND never choosing the higher rout.
Most villains freak out and realize the fault in there actions Even scar panicked as he died in the first movie but Zira naw that death was evil psycho
I honesty love how much of a powerful character she is. She was a leader of a good chunk of a pack of lionesses that lived in a dessert. With a son and 2 toddlers also to take care of nonetheless. Not only did she succeed in this, but her pack was demolishing the Pridelandors in that battle like they were their pray. Speak about her obsession however you want. She is a queen for this
What in my option makes her more dangeros then even Scar is the fact that, while Scar was great at manipulation but couldn't fight for the life of him, Zira is great in every aspect. She's a great strategist, a gaslighter and a great fighter. Don't even try to say "If Kiara and Kovu didn't come Simba would have killed her" SHE HIT HIM ONES AND ALMOST MADE HIM BECOME GRASS WITH HIS FATHER! Not to mention the briliant plan she made to weaken him only like a day before. To brag about her strainght some more, It took at last 5 OUTLANDERS ( I didn't count but It's somewhere there) to even injure him. He fought god knows how many of them at the same time and overpovered them. SHE ALMOST KNOCKED HIM OUT IN 1 HIT
I also like how as similiar he is to Scar she's also the polar opposite. I also like how they made her both, emotional and badass. Usually, especially with female characters we either get 1 or the other, so It's nice to see a well made female character.
I can forgive DIsney for all kinds of bullshit but I will never forgive them for makeing vitani betray her
5:49 That stare. It will haunt you and your following generations.
3:18 âStop inspecting his physique , you are his mother!â
I think itâs the fact he looks like Scar that is turning her on.
I canât blame her, heâs fine as fuck!
@@Dusk_Mightyena Kovu, seducing everyone since 1998.
*scar tries to cheat on Zira with Nala*
Zira:if it wasn't for Simba,Scar would be kingđ and I Zira would be queenđ!
Scar being in love with Nala is a deleted scene.
The diffrerence between zira and simba is that simba lost his father, while zira lost her mate, if scar even condsidered her as his mate and not just some brood mother for his cups, i dont think he ever talked about zira as if she was his mate in the lion guard, but i never watched the show so theres that.
Remember: If Scar was actually Kovu's father, Kovu and Simba would be cousins. That would be weird as hell.
Yes, It's crazy how she is obsessed,but the deleted scene would be so beautiful in movie.
My favorite scene has to be her extended death scene as Kiara tries to hold her hand. As the Joker said, it's at their last moments they show what they really are.
tbh? him âkillingâ nuka was the closest kovu ever got to being like scar, who actually did murder his own brother. even kovuâs attitude wasnt like scarâs because scar was conniving and manipulative, kovu had been serious and a bit mean.
It always gets me how Zira was ready to throw down with Simba in Lion King 2 the moment she saw him despite him being a bigger and more experienced fighter at that point. Even Scar didn't have that kind of confidence in his fighting skills.
Zira really gave him a scar on his eye by slashing across his cheek.âđ
Holy crap that "no...never" was chilling!
I like to imagine Scar didn't even notice Zira the entire time he was king and she just quietly obsessed. Like does he even know her _name?!_
Also I don't think Scar ever chose an heir, he was too wrapped up in himself. I think Zira kidnapped Kovu from some other pride b/c he looked like Scar.
At the end when zira was acting like scar I started laughing, but when she let go whit that crazy look I died!
Wow... Just, wow... I always thought something was off about Zira because she's so devoted to Scar, but she was never even mentioned in the first movie so her story always seemed a bit out of the blue. But these cut off scenes delivers so much more than what we had in the final cut...
Holy shit I never noticed Zira's grin as she was falling towards her death... I never realized how edgy disney made this movie đ
Me: she is very evil
Also me: WHAT AN ICON
Zira is just the start of fan girls and stan culture I swear-
Edit: Also something interesting to note, she died in a similar fashion to Mufasa, who was an indirect enemy to her (because of being Simba's father and thee lion who had the king title before Scar). That.. that is a lovely parallel. Instead of a murder committed by Scar it was death over her obsession with him.
"This will go perfectly"
Five seconds later:
"This did not go perfectly."
INCREDIBLE
I like her villain era actually
HELP IM ALREADY WHEEZING LOOKING AT THE THUMBNAIL-đ
also she's so obsessed with scar like every 2 seconds she goes "S C A R"
In TLK scar barely mentioned Zira--đđ
Honestly its so sweet for Zira to love Scar. It proves that even a broken man can be loved. This case lion. Scar was broken and it wasnt his fault. Zira also was but together they are one. This is love.â€
More like obsession if you ask me.