What humans call Overkill | HFY | A short Sci-Fi Story
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"Patterson, you see that mountain range?"
"Yes sir!"
"I don't wanna see it anymore."
"Understood, sir!"
Made me laugh 😊
"Patterson, fire a warning shot!"
"Sir this is 700 megatons worth of explosives "
"Bah potato potato fire it Patterson!"
"If brute force isn't working, you're not using enough brute force."
Yep! "Just get a bigger hammer."
"The answer... is a gun. And if that don't work... use more gun." - TF2 Engineer
Good old Maxim 34.
If you’re leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun.
There's never enough dakka! 😂
Issac taught you well
Just remember, in 40k, a 19mm selfpropelled armor piercing bullet that explodes after impact for deep damage isn't seen as overkill, it's just another bullet.
If you are talking about a bolt round, they are way bigger than 19mm. Somewhere between 50mm and 80mm depending on source.
And the Imperial Guard, that consists of untold billions of soldiers, wields as standard a weapon, that in one shot can remove a human arm.
That is called a flaslight...
@@emceedoctorb3022You're thinking of caliber, 50cal is 12.7mm, 20mm is auto Cannon round and 80mm would be an artillery shell
Shows up with a laser gun that can easily melt through a thin layer of metal
“Oh yea btw that’s just the base standard of weapons, some people even call it a fuckin’ flashlight”
@@rapson158 No I’m not. An Adeptus Astartes Godwyn pattern boltgun is 75mm, not sure on the calibre of the newer Primaris bolt weapons. Boltguns used by unaugmented Imperium troops such as the Adeptus Astartes is smaller. I’ve been in to 40K since 1993.
I would 100% fully expect humans to attempt something like weaponizing a Quasar. Sounds EXACTLY like us..."The fire is coming from gamma quadrant, sir!" "Roger, removing gamma quadrant"
Bring forth the cosmic eraser
Humans are like the paperclip optimizer. Just that instead of paperclip, human has been optimizing the pointy stick. That weaponized Quasar was just a pointy stick that a K-level III human civilization would wield.
Can't have a plague spread through that quadrant if you delete that quadrant.
Thats so true because I have heard about Quasers years ago and found them quite fascinating. Then I realized if earth were ever on the wrong end of one of its beams it would be curtains for us. Then I started thinking of ways to weaponize the thing through some kind of wormhole tech to direct it at enemy planets lol our capacity for destructive technology is unmatched. The first thing all the scientists thought about after realising that nuclear fission reactions were possible was to build an atomic bomb
Where is the human's new weapon
Galaxy-5461A, sir
Where in it?
No, Galaxy-5461A IS the weapon
"What's Overkill?"
"When we get Creative"
"When you leave us alone with our own thoughts long enough, shit gets wild real quick"
It’s when we have a plan - and say “let’s just wing this simply for shits and giggles and see what happens .”
Humanity in a Nutshell: “Sometimes it’s entirely necessary to kill a fly with a sledgehammer”
“A fly in my house?! I’ll burn it to the ground!”
big fly
I onced used a dyson sphere to cook toast.
That will show them
"Bullets won't pierce that armor"
"Use bigger bullets then"
"Fucking genius"
"We are so smart"
-Humans inventing the rocket launcher
This is a great comment!
“If brute force doesn’t work, you aren’t using enough of it.” - Non-Canon Kratos.
Sorry but that would be artillery
.50 bmg with depleted uranium go brrrrr
I thought rockets worked by using a shaped charge to create a superheated molten metal penetrator...
One species' overkill is another's reasonable margin of safety.
Wait until the alien admiral tries to explain "collateral damage" to his young officers.
I believe the term would be "proportional response". 😹❤
I believe the term would be "proportional response". 😹❤
Both can make mistakes, though.
The human mind arrives at absolutes rather quickly. What I mean by that is: our perception of threat has an upper limit that is rather easily reached. Once thst happens, a perceived threat is regarded as absolute, and the response is accordingly.
“What?…What’s considered overkill?
Human: (grinning) “The Emperor protects”
*ultra marines break down the door* "PURGE THE XENOOOOOOOS!!!!"
That's not just overkill, that's BARBARIC overkill.
Blood Raven: DIE SCUM! NO MERCY! FOR THE EMPEROR! ÀAAAAAAAH!
I think in this case it would be "the Marine Corps protects" that is some straight up USMC shit if I have ever seen it. Semper Fi .... Mother Fucker.
wait until a single custodian shows up.
I remember the perfect comment for this:
"Contact. The enemy is over there."
"Roger. Removing 'over there'."
"Nothings bullet-proof if you shoot it enough times."
Remind me of the definition of bear-proof trashbin. It has to survive for 1 hour.
Bullet proof is basically the same, if it can sustain enough bullets it's considered bullet proof.
Sometimes you just need to use the spicy playdoh.
In the US army, nothing bullet proof, the correct term is bullet resistant.
Humanity: "We are your protectors now, resistance will only make us protect you harder. We will end you, but we will feel bad because you guys were cute. :("
"We are here to save you, do not resist. You can thank us later."
"Fat John shall penetrate you be, IF you resist.'
Just like the terminator was taught on how to treat humanity .
- Yes, my fellow alien races! We have come to save you!
- Hooray, it's the humans!
- From yourselves!
- ...Oh, no, it's the humans...
"You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it."
Ok, Sovereign.
@@Darkinu2 lel reapers are still salty
Lol, that’s not even light bombardment yet. Any Stellaris player worth his salt would tell you that that barely even constitutes as a bombardment.
What would count as light bombardment and heavy bombardment tho😅😂🤣
@@best271043 Light bombardment is nothing short of the planet being cracked in two. Normal bombardment is nothing short of a fine power. Heavy bombardment is a fine powder in a one-system radius.
@@keulron2290the second one is light bombardment the third one normal bombardmend it called heavy bombardment when the adjacent systems are removed by collateral damage all of this can be put under one word a proportional response
@RedAnarchyTurtel
“Sorry, I can’t hear you over all this proportionality!”
@@OR56 then turn on your coms
Aliens: 'Unthinkable. Unimaginable. Massive overkill.'
Humans: 'On our world, we just call it tuesday.'
"Human... my translator shows that a tuesday comes every 7 standard days... that can't be right."
"It is."
"Oh god."
I can appreciate this having learnt from Halo and the Flood, specifically the start of the Human Forerunner war. Extreme threats require proportional responses.
To any who don't understand the level of a threat, any response can seem extreme.
In context a man with a knife will get talked down and might catch a beanbag. A man with a nuke will eat a missile.
What do you mean by a beanbag? I googled it and didnt get a clarifying result
Some shotguns are capable of shooting beanbags at lessened velocities in order to stun and/or disable, like rubber bullets
And even then, the bean bag is quite capable of shattering bone if it hits in the wrong place at close enough range, deaths are not unheard of.
yeah, proportional responses occur when humanity adopts America's thought process, lol
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@@Edmar_Fecler They also have beanbag _grenade launchers_ now. Same use as beanbag shotguns, but a lot more force behind them.
If Violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it. - Maxim 6
Violence isn't the answer, it's the question and the answer is YES
@@user-eq9xs5fz9uViolence is the answer, the answer when diplomacy and justice failed.
Is that a fellow schlock mercenary fan i spot?? :)
@callumprice1710 I miss that comic. But given how he literally went 20 years without missing an update, the guy deserves his rest.
You ever read the John Ringo tie in books? It's not the same, but they are pretty interesting.
@@awesomemccoolname7111 i still quote that comic. Its great, and I will probably buy some of the full volumes eventually.
I haven't read the ringo ones though.
"And for the love of everything you hold dear, do NOT. TOUCH. THEIR BOATS."
Typical Stellaris Human Empire
Considering the disease is called the scourge...
@@dominiklehn2866colossus?
“It is an undeniable, and may I say fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable.”
― Dr. Leonard Church
In the US Army, there is no such thing as "over-kill". There is prepared or defeat. Nothing more, nothing less.
You ever wonder why USA has never won a war?
No such thing as overkill, only Open Fire and Reloading
@@CaelDorman Ahh, Maxim 37. :D
And "if it ain't secured with lag bolts or rivets, it has your name on it."
Unless the media reports on it, then you get all the bleeding hearts yapping about things they know nothing about
Overkill is underrated.
Overkill is rated " E " for everyone.
Underrated and underutilized
"What I'm telling you is: don't bring a cruiser to a quasar fight" LMFAO MY SIDES WERE WARPED OFF BY A HYPERGATE
I remember hearing it somewhere as a kid: “Overkill is underrated.”
From a militaristic point of view, that’s one of the most human things I’ve ever heard in my life, and I can appreciate that.
Aliens- Who would turn a Quasar into a gun?
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS- What was that? You know... let me get back to you, I need to write a grant proposal...
Wiping out an entire star cluster to kill a disease that’s just another day in the office for us humans XD
That or a galaxy...I would choose the star cluster as well
Then there’s the Scourge. If that’s anything like the Flood… yeah. Fire the quazars. Make it, and everything around it, less than dust.
Star Wars shows what happens when humans mess with humans .
First order - FIRE the cannon!
I say this as an American in my 40s who has loved SF all my life: this feels like an American wrote it. "We're great, we're nice--FAFO still applies." That's like our moral ideal sometimes, isn't it?
"walk softly, carry a big stick."
aint much bigger a stick than a freakin quazar super death laser😂😅
yea i have noticed that alot with these scifi story's from reddit its just. "America but in space" while going to suck off the human race's "superiority and violence" and how amazing we are compared to all other fictional races lmao. its definitely a lot less interesting then most other sci-fi stuff i have read.
Yup, American in my 20s, and so long as we can remain courteous, kind, willing to compromise, and uphold our laws and morals even when we might not like the result, then all will be good.
Idealism backed by the strength to defend itself, and the wisdom to avoid using it whenever possible.
Let's return to being the arsenal of democracy; we don't need to do everything ourselves, but we can certainly ensure all those who wish to live with life, liberty, and happiness have all the training and ordinance they need to do so.
That's our exact moral ideal. Remember that our Navy was founded for the explicit purpose of hunting pirates to the outcry of the US public saying "pay a million in defense, not one cent in tribute". FAFO is our credo
@@canisarcaniThe quote is from Theodore Roosevelt. The “Teddy” Bear. Small correction, It’s “Speak softly, and carry a big stick.” Referring to how he liked to foreign policy; be kind, but don’t hesitate to use gunboats.
i like that one "don't bring a Crusier to Quazar Fight."
"You murdered quadrillions of people!"
"To save quintillions."
Honestly, this is a very standard threat brief. If you don't leave feeling that the universe can end on the whims of a mad man, then the guy giving the brief failed.
Curiosity might kill the cat but i would love to be a fly on the wall for the presidential threat brief
@@tomtexas4897 I don't want to live unaware of why the world is the particular type of horrible it is these days, but neither do I want to develop probably multiple self destructive coping mechanisms. The civilian's dilemma. I think I'd rather know, though, at least then I could understand what needs to be done.
@@IronianKnightKnowledge is power and secrets are weapons.
@@vukkulvar9769 That is true, and frankly I'd like less weapons in the hands of my government. Power doesn't matter to me in a vacuum, but if it's the difference between safety and danger I'll take what I can.
Overkill is better than under dead.
Glad to see humanity is an endgame crisis
After fighting the Flood in Halo, utilizing a quasar to fight a deep space species-ending plague sounds extremely reasonable
Then a human walks in the room with a big grin on his face.
*panic *
"Oh hey! Is that from last week or was that the op from last month?"
*Panicked silence*
"I bought some donuts for all!"
“Whatcha working on?”
“Surprise, um, birthday present, um, for the humans.”
“Aw, how sweet! Brought you a lil’ neutron star. Wanna see?”
@trygveplaustrum4634 reminds me of another short story here on the app. Humans just joined the Galactic community and some of our students were part of a transfer system.
Raiders came in and tried to tranq a human student. It was basically cocaine instead so... yea aliens learned how fucking batshit dangerous we are when hyped on drugs and adrenaline
@@joshuasitzema9920 Pls give me da link pls.
So it's just applied Maxim 37. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload.
Fire ineffective, Requesting Support
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IIt's only a war crime if you lose
It's never a war crime the first time.
cant be illegal if i just made it up
said any Canadian ever
I think the author of this story took ALOT of inspiration from Halo and Star Wars
The glassing part was defenaly taken from halo 3
This feels more like a normal human empire in Stellaris tbh lol
And the US army too. OTAN "surgical strikes".
@@abbysaito5348 running gigastructural engineering mod for QSO (quasi stellar obliterator)
Yavon-5 pretty sus ngl
Good ol' Quasi Stellar Obliterator
Based and Inperium pilled. Always remember, the Baneblade is a *light scout vehicle*
Absolutely no such thing as overkill only open fire and reloading
There's 2 more: "I need a bigger gun" and "I need more guns".
@@Christobanistan It's not wasting ammo .. it's just the affirmations that the target is not dead yet.
A man of culture I see
Alien: I have an army
Humanity: We have a galaxy killing superlaser
Reminds me of a story where this little runt of a critter (basically a space gnome) stares down a massive crab monster. When the pirates that he saved from the monster demanded to know why one of the dread crustaceans was afraid of a little runt like him, he explained:
"When they began the conquest of our system, we told them to back off. In retaliation for our 'insolence', they captured a merchant cruiser and ate everyone onboard alive, while broadcasting the... meal. They did this to put us in our place.
The next day, we blew up their most densely populated star with a solar lance. They LISTEN to us now."
@@leyruaThis reminds me of one of my favorite lines: Aliens laughed when they first heard that humans had rules for war. They stopped laughing when they learned what humans do without them.
Dont piss off the humans, wise course of thought.
The bombardment was so trivial it was a foot note under a foot note
Yea that sounds about right 😂😂
I doesn't remember the source, but i heard once this line:
"If something really worth to do it, then it's impossible to overdoing it!"
Meaning, if it's something, they deem necessery, then they do it in a way, that not just stops the current problem, but prevent even the slightest chances in the future as well...
I love “it’s not the great band galaxy”
You already know, this isn’t the Milky Way, humanity has other galaxies, and they don’t mind jumping around
It would be cool that the Milky Way is the only galaxy without life beyond human
So humanity just never had to struggle against another species to get control, so it easily became a type 2 ahead of everyone else, then by the time it could jump across galaxies, every other civilization was merely a type 1.5
Enough for humanity to show compassion and respect, but not enough to even be a bump for the humans to cross over
It's funny that the term "The whole Nine Yards" is used to describe the lengths humanity will go to in pursuit of their goals. Considering that phrase grew to popularity after both worlds wars, where Vickers machine gun ammunition came in 6 and then 9 yard long belts. Giving the whole Nine Yards was just unloading the entire belt. Very human 😂
love the ending statement "in short dont piss the humans off" lol
Interesting story. As for overkill, who decides if something is overkill?🤔 Seems to me that the loser probably does. In a conflict there are usually two possible outcomes: win, or lose. When dealing with violent aggressors it's better that they lose and you win. Achieving this sometimes requires extreme measures, but the cost of losing to the violently aggressive enemy can be too high a price to pay, necessitating extreme measures to win.😲
Schlock Mercenary: "If it leaves scorch marks, you need a bigger gun!"
Sounds like a briefing to police officers on how they are to deal with the public.
Overkill can be decided by the victor as well when doing the math afterward on how much force/resources was needed vs how much was actually used. For example if I used an rpg to kill an annoying fly vs using a flyswatter I’d say it was an overkill move even though in both scenarios I was the victor.
Overkill is defined as wasteful overconsumption of munitions.
Also liberal empathetic types who know nothing about these kind of things and would rather let more people die than killing a couple extra to ensure a plague or mad man cannot further their destruction
"Overkill is underrated". -- Some human General
"Overkill? There's no better type o' kill!" -Some human military researcher in the past, present, and future, probably.
There is no such thing as overkill
that is right if the first shots kills the target then it won't feel the other 999,999 shots
The PC version of Overkill is Oversolved.
Only Open fire and Reloading
The only thing missing from the set up in these stories is that aliens are probably every bit as bad as us.
You do realize that's the point, right? The genre is called "Humanity, Fuck Yeah" for a reason.
HFY is Humans being space Orks
surely, just in smaller scale
"I feel I must remind you that it is an undeniable, and may I say a fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable."
- Dr. Leonard Church
“Maxim 37:
There is no "overkill."
There is only "open fire" and "reload."
-The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries”
― Howard Tayler
That is an admirable and rational strategy. I think it will last about 10000 years.
Another story about aliens fricking around and finding out
I cannot stop cackling at the final line of this video.
The "dont piss the humans off" is probably the most acurated phrase said here
Threaten us, insult us...we can take it in stride. Touch our boats? Game over for you.
I love these stories, many remind me of the possible aftermath of Alan Dean Foster's "A Call To Arms" series.
This “most infamous picture in history” they describe makes me wanna see it.
We don't modify genetics, we modify ballistics, and it is amazing.
Y'know nature's little arms race? Some people call it evolution. Yeah ever since one of us discovered sharp sticks that arms race stopped applying to us.
Overkill is just over calculating the need of force did you want it done then the job got done!!! what did you want us to half ass it! 😂
Guys I brought a planet buster to a fist fight I think I am underprepared.
As one of them, like the rest of the commenters here(assuming...) I'd like to believe that humanity has SLIGHTLY more standards than this when it comes to overkill, although unfortunately, I could see us all too easily losing those standards if we became a multi-galactic civilization. On a completely random note, does anyone here think the phrase "sir, there is a multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder."(from star trek) will become a popular thing to reference once day-to-day life looks like like the show the quote originated from? lasty, I'm pretty sure by "multi-legged creature" Spock meant tarantula. Who here agrees with that?
To be fair, if the Scourge is anything like the Flood or Necromorphs, then yeah. I’d probably fire the quazar.
You are being rescued.... Please do not resist
i'd love to see these in published in a book of short stories!
Also, as a child, i used to love checking out age appropriate sci-fi books from the local library.
If we’re talking at a galactic scale I consider total annihilation of an entire species is overkill (except in certain circumstances)
The Geneva Checklist comes to mind.
Batarians
Boglodytes and Xenomorphs come to mind....
@@Jedidiah_Martin_2 Any Xenomorph hive planet I find is getting glassed from orbit!
@@coltonwilliams4153 That _is_ the only way to be sure 👍
This is the best story i've listened to yet.
Wade is the perfect example of HFY to the extreme in modern scifi
This story feels like average sci-fi meeting the 40k
i like that they did not just make the humans bloodthristy and crazy, but gave an explanation. a race that overs that large of a section of the universe would look at the small things that were listed as minor, because to them they would be, it would be like if bunnies were became sentitnet, and when we were asked to come in an remove a group of predators to them, we would probably not be polite about it, we would anhinliate them, because to us they are both so much lesser, but one is definitly more valuable than the other. its an interesting take on HFY.
Always double tap, it's not overkill, it's insurance.
Overkill is when you've run out of ammo.
Maxim 37: "There is no 'overkill'. there is just 'open fire' and 'I need to reload.'"
Thinking big, big.
Nay; big, big, big!
Now make it even bigger, much, much bigger.
We are the the most benevolent allies you will ever have, and we have no enemies.
When a species spends the majority of its entire history waging war on itself, you better expect they know exactly what they're doing when it comes to letting slip the dogs of war and stacking bodies.
Imagen, usually a species like humanity kills itself before the travel beyond their solar system. But unfortunately for the universe, we somehow plot armored our asses out of self destruction and now make it the problem for every other galactic civilization
its not overkill for aliens, its *ULTRAKILL*
M-M-M-MONSTER KILL-Kill-kill
"Admiral the hot squid aliens are in danger in the andromeda galaxy!"
" WHAT, SEND THE ENTIRE ARMY"
Thank you 💙💚❤️ for all your effort & the time you put in when uploading this. It is really truly appreciated 🙏
Yep yep yep, always the last words during these mettings. In one way or another, those meetings end with, "Don't piss off the humans!" But after all the pictures they've seen can it be understood why the warning is given?
This is gona make me look this up, but I remember a story of a naval vessel I think taking small arms fire or was supporting something else on land, and the captain basically said "you see that hill over there?" "Yes, captain." "I don't want to" and shelled it until it was leveled. I want to say it was a U.S. ship but I honestly don't remember any more than that. Gona look it up now lol
Can't edit on my phone fore whatever reason so I'll reply to my own comment, the ship was U.S.S. Wisconsin
@@thethievesdomain8360 Temper, temper.
If you don't want to find out, then don't fuck around. It's that simple.
You see, we don't use the quasar laser to destroy things, we make our cats chase it, if we wanted to use it as a weapon, we would need at least 200 of them
Light bombardment? Shit thats just another Tuesday
Make the rubble bounce until it self-levels.
This was incredible to stumble upon accidentally!
I love this story! The ai narrator did a great job!
Overkill? Nah, we're not going in half-assed. We're making sure we get the job done thoroughly.
Humans will call something overkill once it reaches the point of redundancy. Like glassing a planet then quarantining it.
Great story! Overkill? Hold my beer!
Patterson! fire a warning shot.
sir, this is a grenade launcher...
potato, tomato. fire it Patterson.
"No such thing as overkill. Just open fire and reload."
Dont bring a cruiser to a quasar fight. Lol im dead.😂
Hearing cruiser bombarding a location aided by volunteers makes me think helldivers lol
Managed Democracy.
Take Back Control of Freedom with Gentle Touch of Iron Fist.
Galactic Last Line of Offense.
If we had the means, most people would respond with a flametrower to a tiny spider the size of a baby nail and desinfect the whole house just in case. That wouldn't be considerate overkill but being cautious. Better safe than sorry.
As a species we are so oblivious that we even have to create laws to not be too overkill. Imagine an alien learning about human history. Ghengis Khan, colonialism, WW1 &2, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Gaza. 😂 the emperor indeed protects.
And don’t forget: “we are the government, we are here to help you.”.
Or when absolutely ,positively , needs be must, kill something, beyond even a Marvel Super Hero movie, ability to RESURRECT!!!!!
the human mind: anything can be turned into a weapon
Those last two minutes of the video were extremely accurate. 😈