Ending the Moon Wars: A Case for Calculations | Sh. Dr. Yasir Qadhi
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- In this monumental video, Sh. Dr. Yasir Qadhi delivers a powerful fiqh discussion on ending moon sighting disputes and paving the way for calculations based start to Ramadan and Eid.
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Presentation details: May 4, 2019 @ Memphis Islamic Center
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Thank you Yasir Qadhi for bringing nuance to islamic topics. May Allah reward you and your family
Funny, folks with no or limited knowledge but with a CZcams account are calling Shaykh's opinion incorrect.
For me, 46:15 onwards (till 50:40), completely answers/explains the key Hadith that is at the root of this dispute, putting the issue at rest. MashaAllah wa Alhumdulillah. May Allah Reward each and every sincere heart at the both sides of the issue. Ameen.
Asalam Walikum May Allah Azzawajal reward & Bless each & everyone & grant you all mercy & paradise & acceptance of all your Duas & goodness in this blessed month of Ramadan & May it continues on Aameen Aameen Aameen Rabil Alameen🤲🏼💦
In Turkey calculations are used... alhamdulillah ❤
You said right...unity is more important.
Jazak allah for your enlightment
may allah bless you! barak allahu feek, jazak allahu khayr shaykh.. this lecture is such a blessing for the ummah! ♥️
Jazakallahu khair
Alhamdulillah 💜
In the past communities stayed so far from each other that if one community had to sight the moon and had to relay it to another, it would take a few days to get there so it made sense at the time to define a community as those people who lived together in a single town. Today we live in a global community and we should be celebrating Eid as a single ummah, unified. How is it that people are on Arafah on the day of Arafah and yet other people will only fast the day after in another place in the world taking that day as the day of Arafah. Does it make sense that people are looking for Laylatul Qadr on the odd nights and so some people will be looking for it on the wrong nights or is laylatul Qadr actually 2 nights. We are still sighting the moon but as a global ummah, instead of being divided on the matter. I stay in the UAE but I am from South Africa and I still have my old classmates in a whatsapp group and every year I will celebrate Eid and then the next day, when they will be wishing each other Eid mubarak while my Eid is over and as a result I feel ousted or not a part of the celebrations. How are we supposed to be a unified ummah when we can't even celebrate Eid together.
Assalamualaykum.Ramdan Mubarak
Salaam Brother. In Singapore it has been calculations for years.
Yes, maybe he does not know?
www.muis.gov.sg/
If you do not start moon wars there is no need to end them either....
@mo ali audhibillah... Allah has chosen us lunar calendar... And we should be pleased with whatever Allah has decided. And shouldn't question his decision at all brother.
Salam alaykum Dr Qadhi, I truly appreciate this talk. This issue has always weighed heavily on my mind since I was a young person growing up in Nigeria. I believe one of the strongest reasons for the calculation case is to have a unifying Islamic calendar. I am quite sure that even in the Muslim countries their Islamic calendars cannot tally all year round between each country once their is difference in the End of Shaa ban and start/end of Ramadhan from one country to the other. I believe this ties into your unification argument but not just to North America but across the Muslim world in general. Definitely accept the default but it helps to solidify Fiqh if each countries council adopts calculation as a means to unify muslims across the world.
Absolutely agree with u my friend, I just hope that Muslims will get this
first
Sheikh plz explain... Is the day starting from fajar r magrib ?
From maghrib
The proof of the case for calculations and /or keeping Eid with Makkah is to be found in the hadeeth of Leila dul Qadr. Our beloved prophet SAW said that Leila dul Qadr will be found on the uneven nights in the last 10 days of Ramadan and we have a fulsome description of the conditions of this night. Therefore if the ulamah and the ummah find Leila dul Qadr on an even night ( as happened this year in Cape Town when they didn't spot the moon on Sunday night at the beginning of Ramadan , we started fasting on Tuesday. But Leila dul Qadr was on Friday night making it the 26th night. If we had started fasting on the Monday when the moon was old enough by calculation then Leila dul Qadr / Friday night would have been on the 27th. Making the Hadeeth pertinent. Given this logic, it is my summation that my beloved brothers and sisters in Islam will find the calculation is more correct than the moon sighting. 🤗
Why can’t we just follow what the prophet SAW did. Lets not think of ourselves superior bc we have a little more knowledge. Stop referring to our past scholars as living in “medieval Islam “
We've tried. No one can agree on one thing. In America, who picks the authority to see the moon? Which madhab to they represent? He saw it with a telescope so his sighting doesn't count. He saw it from the mountain top so his sighting doesn't count, I am celebrating eid tomorrow because in my madhab, sighting using optical aides is allowed, me neighbor is fasting tomorrow because his madhab doesn't allow optical aides. So on and so forth.
sammu sad. My Allah unite us in sa Allah
I respect Dr. Yasir Qadhi but I don’t agree with this argument for calculations. May Allah bless him and those who are going with this. I this will exacerbate the the crisis of knowledge within the American Muslim community.
As is, the majority of Muslims are unaware of the hijri months, which year it is, which months are sacred, etc. As is, the majority of Muslims, regardless of their opinions, cannot determine the Qiblah, a prayer time or a month without an app, a calculation, a compass or being given a direction by someone knowledgeable.
This talk is a clear indication that the leadership does not have any plan to teach the Muslims any of these things.
Learning how to do such things will not make you a faqeeh or a Mufti. It would raise literacy and connection to Islam and nature. For the sake of convenience and continuing business as usual minor opinions would be applied and knowledge is not taught.
Also there are organizations that sight the moon for every month. I personally seek out the moon along with several organizations every month for several years. So it is not that no one does it. Those that do it are marginalized as if they are ignorant.
MashaAllah. Ramadan Mubarak.
As-Salaamu Alaykum,
Hum, his results are calling for adjusting the months. With Allah there are 12 months and one can not replace one with another as the Arabs did to suit their desires for war or peace. This argument destroys numerous sunna. Only Allah controls time. It appears as though he seeks to follow the Jews who used to use the Hilal for their months, but wanted to unify themselves and fix their days because a lunar calendar shifts throughout the year. Follow the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the best of the Ummah (may Allah be pleased with them. Beware of one who stands to disagree with Ibn Abbas on this matter. There are numerous issues on this matter that he addressed as Amir of Midinah.
You can't mix apples and oranges by using the prayer times as an argument. Even those are based on the Sun's movement and fajr time in New York is not fajr time in places east and west of New York.
Many of these people making this argument have little experience in actually sighting the hilal throughout the year and hence have little understanding of how sacred the cycle is that Allah has set forth for the moon and how consistent it is. There are hadith for nearly every instance of question concerning the hilal. How many have we read and how many ayats concerning it have we read or do we just jump on a band wagon of expediency like the Jews did. This is shameful indeed.
I speak as one who has practiced sighting the Hilal monthly since 1982 in different cities around the world and a witness to the consistency of what the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, the month is 29 or 30 days.
If that is your opinion then no one blames you. But you have no right to accuse someone so blatantly.
brother, we can now calculate the moon precisely. its about 29.5xxxx days per month. Prophet muhmmad said in hadith that muslims were ignorant with regards to the falak/astronomy knowledge at that time hence no choice other than physical moon sighting. But today, sciemce can even calculate precisely when will be our next solar or moon eclipses in the future as all the planet/moon in this universe are moving in constant, balanced and precised movement along their respective path/orbit. this is injunction with the verse in the Quran of surah ar Rahman verse 5: "The sun and the moon [move] by precise calculation,"
i wonder why the ulama' are all sticking to the old method
Alhaamdul Allah! Stay close to those who follow Qur'an and Sunnah And avoid innovation! (Bid'a) such as Yasir Qadhi is promoting! Ramadan Mubarak! Tomorrow will be EID! Insha Allah ta ala Azwajl.
You know what, people like said are holding the Muslims back, thanks people like Yasir Qadi, we are looking forward, but stay consistent and stay away from cars and flights, and stick with Sunna i.e horse and camel for transportation, when technology allows when the moon is born, you wanna go outside and for a moon, one word man,
backwards
@@affarokurz1486 LOL. Foolishness and Jahaliya are the times when people like you blindly follow people who are claimed to be scholars. Where in Qur'an or ahadeeths did Nabi Muhammad saaws and the companions speak of observation of an astronomical Hilal? Tell me? The prophetic visions of Nabi Muhammad saaws warned us of people like you and Yasir Qadhi (Qazi correctly pronounced) in the last days trying to change the Sunnah of Allah ta ala Azwajl. Before you make your self sound more foolish search the Qur'an and ahadeeths for the meaning of bid'a. I have studied for years with Muhadiths and various ulimah. I am a scientist by profession so again I challenge you and Yasir Qadhi to produce daleel for sighting an astronomical Hilal. Otherwise you support bid'a and all who support bid'a will see the outcome of the Hellfire as their destination!
I didn't listen to the clip yet, so maybe he addressed this concern. But isn't looking for the moon part of the sunnah and experience? The sabab isn't the moon being there, the sabab is sighting the moon.
It's not like prayer times. With prayer times, the sabab is the sun reaching its location, and looking for the sun is not part of the process.
Update : I watched the video, and I disagree with yasir qadhi. He compares moon sighting to calculating Salah, and that is ignoring the difference between the sabab. "When you witness" is mentioned in the Quran for moon sighting. That is not mentioned for Salah, for Salah, when the sun sets, we pray, not when we "witness," the sunset.
Nowadays mankind uses modern technology for sightings of celestial objects. For moon worshipers like you the information we give you should be very helpful: where does the quran say that sightings have to be done with the naked eye?
Also you can watch internet, you are ignoring the world as it is today, partly that is. You use internet to look at everything but not for sightings of the moon?
I witness your confusion right now, live on internet
worfoz looking for the moon is part of ritual, and I consider it a part of the process.
When we ask people, "how are you?". It has no practical value. Or we tell our loved ones, "be careful.". It's simply a gesture to show that we care.
Why do people still use candles on birthday cakes? Don't those barbarians know we have electricity now?
We do plenty of things simply for the moral value. I can also use technology to recite the Quran for me. It would be more efficient and accurate. does mean I should stop reciting myself?
So whoever among you sights (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadaan), he must observe sawm (fast) that month…” [al-Baqarah 2:185]
Moon sighting brings excitement to the event. "Was the moon sighted? Yes, it's Ramadan! Hey guys, the moon was sighted." It's what makes Ramadan and eid unique and exciting.
I can disregard all that if I didn't believe it was sunnah. I listened carefully to yasir qadhi, and I think he made a poor case by comparing it to the prayer times. Determining the times of the prayer is simply a means to an end, and it's not the same as looking for the moon, which is part of the process.
Sheikh Yasir Qadhi explicitly addresses this and says that looking at the moon is a tool and not an act of worship in of itself
Shahab Mushtaq yes, and it was a false comparison to say it was the same as the prayer times and straightening the rows. Sighting the moon is part of the process. Sighting the sunset is not part of the process.
In usul ul-fiqh, they call it the "sabab.". The sabab of Maghreb prayer is the sun set. The sabab of eid is sighting the moon, not if the moon is there.
He said himself that ibn taymiyah disagreed. Read ibn taymiyahs explanation.
@@alijawad87able So how do you know the sun has set if you don't sight it?
Eating breakfast sehur 1 hour before Fajr is ridiculous!
As Sallam Alaikum . Your science about the sun and the moon is incorrect. However the Quran explained it to perfection.
There isn't 12 months when they found the total days of a year it was 365.5 days thank you for your time
You will be foolish to follow his argument of calculations!!! Wake up Muslims!
I have great respect for Shaikh Qadhi but I must say one thing. He surely has not evaluated and fully understood the Fiqh Council's method before doing this presentation. I watched full video up to the Q&A and I say this with certainty. He clearly contradicted himself. I am very much engaged on this matter for many years and have full knowledge of calculations, scientific issues, visibility curves etc. from local and global perspectives. FCNA could have done a better job if they really wanted to resolve the issue and implement scientific method which also satisfied the Shariah requirement. They failed and Qadhi saheb is unaware! I dare to challenge him for an open or closed dialogue on this matter. His choice.
Did Nabi Muhammad (saaws) and the companions use calculations for a new moon or did they observe Hilal using their eye sight? Very simple question folks! SMH In the Holy Quran Allah Says: “he who obeys the messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah.” In another place Allah commands Muslims as “O’ people if you love Allah then follow My messenger, Allah will love you and forgive your sins and Allah is forgiving and merciful”. These and other similar verses of Quran proves that our success as a Muslim here and after is only in following the path of our beloved prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).
A question for you smartie did the prophet a car or a camel, so for that reason why are using cars then, did you even listens to the talk?
@@affarokurz1486 the question is, why Did you listen to the talk? Stay with Qur'an and Sunnah of Allah ta ala Azwajl and remain rightly guided. Stay away from bid'a. If you attend Salaat ul Jumuah then you will know that all bid'a is from Shaytan and all adoption of bid'a leads to the Hellfire. Period!
بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
The knowledge of time and the knowledge of the occurrence of any affairs in the universe are sacred and secret that none knows about them but Allah (Azzawajal) only. There are many Ayah in the noble Koran and many authentic Hadith explicitly indicating and referring to this delegate subject. Any doubt or denial of these facts are Koofar. There are many wisdom about the Islamic calendar being based on the moon sighting rather than scientific calculations. The following are a few that I would like to bring to your attention.
1) Every events are based on uncertainty. The only definite certainty is Allah (Azzawajal) himself. To go out for moon sighting implements uncertainty about the following day being the beginning of the new month.
2) To go out for moon sighting is an act of discipline and an act of looking for the sings and communication with Allah (Azzawajal). This has been mentioned explicitly in Koran. This is an act of worshiping Allah (Azzawajal). This act is similar to making Tahajud salaat at that time.
3) To go out for moon sighting is one of the tradition and the teaching of Rasullah that every believer must obey and follow. Any deviation from the teaching of Muhammad (PBUH) is hypocrisy.
As far as the simple arithmetic calculations are concern, there were much better mathematicians at the time of Rasulluah than we have today. However, the calendar was not set based on calculation but based on lunar sighting as I have reasoned above about its wisdom.
In short, there are many wisdom for seeking signs of moon in determining the beginning or the end of a month. To follow calculation and announce the beginning or the end of Ramadan months ahead is outside the teaching and the practice of Raullah. It is Bedah that gradually lead to many other Bedah to follow.
There are two moths of continuous fasting as a penalty for missing one single day of Ramadan without a valid excuse. Honoring and observing that penalty may still not replace that single missing day of fasting. Your excuses of following calculation is not according to the teaching of Rasul and may not be accepted by Allah (Azzawjal). So fear Allah and his severing chastisement and punishment and do not deviate from the teaching of Rasullah
When you encounter a doubtful matter always take the benefit of the doubt and take the one with much more certainty. In the case of moon sighting one must follow the tradition of Allah’s Rasule, where there is no doubt.
Recommended Solution,
Every Masjid should have a committee of three or more volunteers designated for moon sighting. They can have some simple binoculars and going out at the end of every month seeking for the moon appearance. By doing so they are trained and experience where in the horizon to look for moon. In case the sky is cloudy on that day in some community, it may not be in the next one. So if moon has been sighted by in one location we must all agree to accept it. Also, in case moon could not be sighted then the beginning of the Ramadan can be delayed one day. This is the tradition and the teaching of Rasullah.
BEWARE:
ISNA, the Cobra Poison Snake of North America, is behind all these Fitnah, Turmoils, Bidah, and Innovations. The organization, along with their puppet stooges, at different mosques in US, are actively trying to insert Graduate Changes in Principles in the Islamic sharia. ISNA is a nest of Israeli Mossad.
The knowledge of time and the knowledge of the occurrence of any affairs in the universe are sacred and secret that none knows about them but Allah
thank god I am not a muhamedan: no knowledge is a secret for me, no scholar or cleric can forbid me to do science and investigate nature and universe
It's really sad that in 2019, even here ion internet, people are expressing and spreading these kind of ideas
and you are right, there are many reason fro you muhamedans to avoid science, knowledge and truth: alla knows best and alla is the creator of everything, you all MUST believe
but you use our internet because we know better, we created it and by doing that we proved your alla wrong.
Yes, the people you insult by calling them kufar, they are the best of all people, the most knowing, the most truthful and the smartest
that is why you are here on our internet to imitate us
because you know that our knowledge of cosmology is far better than yours.
Doh!? Are you for real? Stop making a mockery of Islam.
@@Pratibhinbh I will if you stop mocking the bible, the prophets, Jesus and Christianity.
Do we have a deal?
In the meantime, enjoy internet of free speech, here you can freely discuss whatever you believe, under OUR protection because we love free speech and human rights
now read surah 5:51, alla hates you
but we like to see you imitate us, using our creations.
@@worfoz Dear,. My reply was directed towards Mr. Ali Umar who seems quite passionate of imposing a 7th century custom on today's Muslims and then tries to justify it by the weight of God. Hence making a mockery of Islam. Peace!
@@Pratibhinbh Oh, my bad, I am not Mr. Ali Umar but Google must be drunk again, she gave me a notification, silly Google.
You know what would be cool? Why not simply pray Fajr at 10am and Esha at 11 am then Dhuhr at 12:30pm and Asr at 5 pm and make Maghrib the night prayer before bedtime! Makes sense to change Sunnah because science allows us to calculate better sleep time and less stress on the human body! Astaghfir Allah Azeem.
The current prayer times are already based on calculations, not on the visual sightings on the sun.
@@quran1012 The prayer times for which country, city or town are you referring to akhi? We still look at the length of our shadows to calculate and estimate the time for Salaat. Takes about 30 seconds to do. We (our community) don't need computer calculations or software like young Muslims who have no knowledge of this Sunnah. Insha Allah you should try it out sometime and see how easy it is to learn. More reliable than an app.
What's so complicated about going outside and seeing the moon? All of this bid'a of computer calculations! even Yasir Qadhi is talking about calculations. Shaytan is very busy with Yasir Qadhi. Astaghfir Allah Azeem!
What's wrong with riding horses, and camels, this bid'a of cars and flights, astaqhfir Allah azeem
The proof of the case for calculations and /or keeping Eid with Makkah is to be found in the hadeeth of Leila dul Qadr. Our beloved prophet SAW said that Leila dul Qadr will be found on the uneven nights in the last 10 days of Ramadan and we have a fulsome description of the conditions of this night. Therefore if the ulamah and the ummah find Leila dul Qadr on an even night ( as happened this year in Cape Town when they didn't spot the moon on Sunday night at the beginning of Ramadan , we started fasting on Tuesday. But Leila dul Qadr was on Friday night the 26th night. If we had started fasting on the Monday when the moon was old enough by calculation then Leila dul Qadr / Friday night would have been on the 27th. Making the Hadeeth pertinent. Given this logic, it is my summation that the calculation is more correct than the moon sighting. 🤗
Affaro kurz 😂