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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
  • Time Consuming Ep #78 deals with the beloved Shakti !
    This Indian fusion band, led by John McLaughlin and Zakir Hussain are a pinnacle of musical excellence, fusion, jazz, Hindustani and Carnatic music and are simply phenomenal.
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    Intro by Sharon Renold (@sharonrenold on Instagram) and myself
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Komentáře • 70

  • @arta2867
    @arta2867 Před měsícem +96

    Choking from depression, laying on a couch crying, a rythm analysis of my favorite band since I was 8 years old made me smile. thank you. ❤

    • @ryancurtin9256
      @ryancurtin9256 Před měsícem +14

      Keep up hope. Things will get better

    • @_rlb
      @_rlb Před měsícem +4

      Take care ❤

    • @VinceViglione
      @VinceViglione Před měsícem +3

      Been there, exactly there. May your situation change soon, friend.

    • @artonion420
      @artonion420 Před měsícem +2

      This too shall pass

    • @YogevGabay
      @YogevGabay  Před 13 dny +3

      Oh man, I know the feeling.
      The only thing I can say is, this will pass. Even when it seems like there's no exit, there is.
      Hang in there!

  • @kwichmann2777
    @kwichmann2777 Před měsícem +33

    With both 40 and 30 being divisible by 5, I was almost disappointed no quintuplets showed up. Almost. Mostly, I was relieved!

    • @pendiculator
      @pendiculator Před měsícem +2

      Yogev was so close to making it happen with the transition at 0:48 ;)

  • @krthkh
    @krthkh Před měsícem +19

    I seriously thought when did meshuggah win a Grammy, dayumn

  • @jamesclawson9243
    @jamesclawson9243 Před měsícem +21

    Discovered Shakti within the last year after Sungazer played Vital Transformation by Mahavishnu Orchestra on their tour with Plini last year. John McLaughlin is a nutty genius. I'll have to look into the others in this band

  • @lepermessia4
    @lepermessia4 Před měsícem +6

    this is very good explanation and example of metric modulation. thnx!

  • @GuilhermeCarvalhoComposer
    @GuilhermeCarvalhoComposer Před měsícem +1

    I love metric modulations and this is just a phenomenal example of it. Great video!

  • @robbledot7290
    @robbledot7290 Před měsícem +7

    Yogev! Much love brother

  • @DrTacoPHD665
    @DrTacoPHD665 Před měsícem +7

    Shakti was the group that got me into carnatic music, and non-western music in general. Forced me to rethink a ton of stuff. I'm so happy this is a topic for one of your videos!
    And I have to mention Yogev's time playing in the Berklee Indian and World Music ensembles. I knew you from Distorted Harmony but seeing you play in those groups exposed me to a lot more stuff to appreciate.

    • @YogevGabay
      @YogevGabay  Před 13 dny

      Oh man thanks so much !
      I'm always happy to hear people who know Distorted, I miss that band !

  • @marksoftime
    @marksoftime Před měsícem +3

    Wow. This is genuinely impressive

  • @ThatBeTheQuestion
    @ThatBeTheQuestion Před měsícem +3

    I love how this is definitely NOT a Meshuggah song but you still use the card board 8 string guitar. 😂

  • @ayandey137
    @ayandey137 Před měsícem +1

    I really enjoy the Mahavishnu Orchestra, John was so ahead of his time, he really made a perfect bridge between weatern and Indian music

  • @thebritishtable7816
    @thebritishtable7816 Před 28 dny +1

    man, youre the best! you made me discover gojira and opeth! my two favorite bands! thank you man

  • @stoshu9584
    @stoshu9584 Před měsícem +2

    Awesome video as always :) thank you for all of the work you put into these! Would love to see you break down another Car Bomb track if it ever tickles your fancy. Or maybe a Pound track?

    • @YogevGabay
      @YogevGabay  Před 13 dny +1

      I did one car bomb episode, but I definitely need to do another yes !

  • @VV-KanjiraKidMusic
    @VV-KanjiraKidMusic Před měsícem +1

    Awesome work, great analysis! This composition is in a carnatic tala Khanda Ekam

  • @Duvstep910
    @Duvstep910 Před měsícem +1

    The same thing that made me fall in love with tool

  • @mglickman13
    @mglickman13 Před měsícem +1

    Congrats Yogev! ☺

  • @wietzejohanneskrikke1910
    @wietzejohanneskrikke1910 Před měsícem +1

    Very enjoyable and informative. Thank you for all the hard work and making it look/sound easy.

  • @melissagariepy1320
    @melissagariepy1320 Před měsícem

    Such meticulous and inspired work you do, thank you!!! This was the most surprising and entertaining course. I’m used to your deconstructions of metal song beats but this genre and your body double playing the tabla are wild!

  • @VinceViglione
    @VinceViglione Před měsícem +2

    What an incredible piece/band/video. Thank you as always!

  • @linnstr8609
    @linnstr8609 Před měsícem

    Thanks Yogev for all the wonderful work you have done. As a guitarist, your videos have made me realize the world of rhythm can be just as complex, diverse, and fascinating as the melodic/harmonic world.

  • @Mezurashii5
    @Mezurashii5 Před měsícem +1

    The fun thing about metric modulation is being able to hear it, and I really can't in this case.

  • @astrolopitekos
    @astrolopitekos Před měsícem

    “Let’s just go get food” ahahahahah 👌

  • @cornontherobmusic1687
    @cornontherobmusic1687 Před měsícem +2

    Any thoughts on a tesseract episode? (You should definitely do it!!! Natural disaster has some devious time changes)

    • @stcmattb
      @stcmattb Před měsícem

      The ending of their song "Exile" still blows my mind too

    • @YogevGabay
      @YogevGabay  Před 13 dny +1

      Yes yes I should do !

  • @rohithyourboat
    @rohithyourboat Před měsícem

    this video is very good

  • @MattKeenanMusic
    @MattKeenanMusic Před měsícem

    insane. inspiring!

  • @mmmmsoup1964
    @mmmmsoup1964 Před měsícem +4

    While we're on the topic of complicated Grammy-winning songs, I feel like The Alien should be mentioned. (Even though I'm really pissed that after years of making awesome music, they get the Grammy for such a mediocre song)

  • @enijize1234
    @enijize1234 Před měsícem

    I was expecting some Quincy Jones produced tune, you hoodwinked us ringing in John McLaughlin

  • @dyllanusher1379
    @dyllanusher1379 Před měsícem

    You da man yogev 🙏

  • @mosthatedminnesotan
    @mosthatedminnesotan Před měsícem +4

    The listener dictates nothing, and thats the beautiful part about it. If the tempo was meant to be unchanged, which I would argue was the intent, the listener just gets to enjoy the ride they get put on!

  • @markdisanzo3796
    @markdisanzo3796 Před měsícem +2

    It is impossible for me to hear the intro as anything other than 7-7-6, with a 4-tuple over the 6 count. Beat is at 192. Sorry man, 5/4 is a big ask.

    • @nomnom112
      @nomnom112 Před měsícem +1

      The thing is, these are Indian classical rhythms and the time signature is a Western concept. So this whole exercise is quite a stretch.

  • @A.B.H_da-goat
    @A.B.H_da-goat Před měsícem +1

    איזה הרכב אגדות אחד אחד

  • @smaz9
    @smaz9 Před měsícem

    If Shakti and John McLaughin can win a Grammy with an insane rhythm like that, anyone can

    • @ayandey137
      @ayandey137 Před měsícem +1

      I'm really not sure if your comment is positive or negative about Shakti 😂

    • @smaz9
      @smaz9 Před měsícem +1

      @@ayandey137 Positive, obviously
      Love those guys!

  • @faselblaDer3te
    @faselblaDer3te Před měsícem

    Who decides the tempo? The recording engineer, that's who!

  • @pauldavisthefirst
    @pauldavisthefirst Před měsícem +2

    Yogev, as you know I love your videos (and your music). But I'm a little mystified why you decided to analyse a piece using Carnatic rythmic structures by using western concepts instead of looking at it from the perspective of Carnatic talas. Of course, you can do that, but it's not likely that the musicians themselves are approaching it from a "time signature + tempor" perspective ....

    • @viraajgupta6047
      @viraajgupta6047 Před měsícem

      maybe to simplify it for western audiences watching his vids

    • @YogevGabay
      @YogevGabay  Před 13 dny +1

      Great question !
      I grew up as a western musician and I'm very comfortable with it's boundaries. And while yes, usually I'll make a big deal about analyzing music with the wrong "tools", I feel like in this instance they still overlap nicely.
      Did you feel anything I said was wrong or misleading ?

  • @aprilcox871
    @aprilcox871 Před měsícem

    For me it's a calculated tempo change, I'm not sure I'd be able to accurately play the change myself, it would be more of an estimate!

  • @ozspierer4732
    @ozspierer4732 Před měsícem

    אחלה יוגב

  • @Levaerrr
    @Levaerrr Před měsícem

    I was waiting "Clockworks" by meshuggah :(

    • @YogevGabay
      @YogevGabay  Před 13 dny

      czcams.com/video/YwrSvpjdK-w/video.html
      Boom !

  • @progrockplaylists
    @progrockplaylists Před měsícem +1

    8:42 this is the moment when i realised i didnt get anything that was said in this video. this simply cant be 5

  • @TheMagicCuber
    @TheMagicCuber Před měsícem

    Oooooo fun

  • @Feverdream7777
    @Feverdream7777 Před měsícem

    I wanted to take a moment to express my deep appreciation for your exceptional teaching. Your ability to break down such a highly complex and dynamically changing rhythmic structure was truly remarkable.
    Although I found myself grappling to understand even the first level of the intricacies you presented, I was profoundly impressed by your mastery and depth of understanding across multiple layers of complexity. Your passion and dedication to the subject were evident, and it inspired me to continue exploring and learning, even when the material feels challenging.
    Thank you for making such an effort to share your knowledge and for making complex concepts more accessible to learners like me. Your work is not only enlightening but also incredibly motivating.
    -ChatGPT

  • @hoey2323
    @hoey2323 Před měsícem +1

    well, michael bolton won a grammy, so i'm not sure they really mean that much

  • @Armakk
    @Armakk Před měsícem +2

    NGL was kinda frustrated w this video...
    1:20… you never play the full section, you keep breaking it up to count, and then when you do play the 7+3 together you count over it. We never get to hear the relationship of the 7 to the 3, which is key since the 3 is all downbeats. Let us soak in the full cycle before you superimpose on top on it. (as for the 5/4, I hear it as 14/8-14/8-12/8 with a duplet-triplet dynamic).
    2:35… I hear this as 8/8+7/8, with the highest note being the downbeat. At 3:30 you count it in double-time, uncomfortable tempo, no numbers or rhythms to be seen on screen.
    4:45… Describing metric modulation verbally is a wild choice considering this is THE absolute #1 channel for visual metaphors of rhythm. I understand it already but could not follow the explanation (yeah I'm a visual learner).
    In the end I'm unconvinced this is a 5/4... I'm hearing it at half the tempo you describe, in a slinkier groove that suits the awesome music, and 40 can be subdivided like a million ways, so I prefer to choose a time sig that describes the music not just counts it. I dunno, love this channel, this one kinda lost me, felt like a rough draft.

  • @stefan86wtf
    @stefan86wtf Před měsícem

    4/4 fuck sake