Quick demo of my Technics RS-B965 with dbx noise reduction Audio is from the CZcams audio library Watch video to the end to see pictures of inside the deck
Very few tape decks have dbx built in (other than Tascam 4-track units). I found an external dbx encoder/decoder at a thrift store last weekend, and I plan to try it out with some recordings soon. Liked and subscribed.
Hello, yes, a top product from Technics. I have the AZ 7 and the BX 606 (without drive belt) from Technics + JVC TD V 562 and Pioneer CT WM 77r, the 8050 from Kenwood is also there. 3 HiFi systems connected to 3 digital Dolby Atmos amplifiers. The sound is really great. Best wishes
That's an awesome deck. Dolby DBX is awesome in a way that you can play the tapes in a non-Dolby tape decks. Tapes recorded in Dolby B or Dolby C must be played in that format. Playing tapes in a non-Dolby decks will sound metallic similar to MP3 sound. Dolby S is also not bad. Tapes recorded in Dolby S format still sound well in non-Dolby decoded decks. I never use Dolby B or C for that reason. Dolby DBX and Dolby S are the only formats I use. Another thing is, if you record tapes louder, 2-3 bars past the normal level, you can use the Dolby feature increasing the levels of sound quality. Remember, it's not the tape that hisses, rather the stereo or deck itself hisses and the hiss gets recorded unto a cassette. You can see for yourself by blocking the sensors, and with no tape loaded in the deck, press play, and you will hear the same hissing noise with no tape in the deck. It upsets me when people say it's the "tape" hiss, when in reality it's not. I've been proving it to so many people, and some people still say "tape" hiss, instead of deck hiss. Try it for yourself, you'll find out the truth.
DBX works too harsh and too rigid . You have listen more carefully , then you'll find that Dolby B sounds the best . Everything you do to eliminate tape hiss damages the original dynamic of the source .. When this deck cane out , I was very disappointed in Technics . It doesn't even have a cassette backlight , I mean come on .. for the topmodel . The sound of the mechanical part is also an abomination . It doesn't even have a cammotor for engaging the heads onto the cassette . When you press play some severe blows can be heard , just like some cheap entry level decks.. What a difference compared to the decks from late seventies.. Those were awesome . This one's a joke ..
Always hated DBX recordings.The pumping and breathing were inherent to that system no matter how you calibrated it.Dplby C and at the end the fantastic Dolby S for me
I love dbx but you have to encode your recordings in dbx to truly benefit. This makes encoded tapes sound awful in non dbx decks. Dolby isn't the same in this regard. But overall, dbx is a great idea that works on vinyl (if the record is dbx) and of course reel to reel which I've used many times.
you are not recording loud enough when using dbx.8db with normal and chrome tapes...12 with metal.dbx not only eliminates noise,but extends dynamic range to 110 db.
dbx lowers the noise floor and increases the headroom. So yes, you could say it gives you better dynamics and better signal-to-noise level. Depending on the music I record and tape i use, I would turn it on/off on my RS-B965 when recording. I'll post more videos of recording with it for everyone to watch :)
Tape noise? Even though it's not the tape that makes noise, that noise does get recorded unto the tape eventually if you don't record them properly. Try playing a brand new blank tape, you might hear some noise that the tape deck itself produces, then remove the tape and press play, you will hear the same exact noise without a tape in the deck. Bottom line is that it's not the tapes that hiss rather the tape deck itself hisses. How many times do I have to explain it to people.
Przy nagrywaniu w systemie DBX powinieneś ustawić poziom nagrywania +10 / +12 db. W przeciwnym razie słyszalny będzie efekt "pompowania" dźwięku. To wynika ze specyfikacji systemy DBX. Nie bój się nie będzie zniekształceń a znacząco poprawi to jakość dźwięku. ;)
Hey mate, not sure if you check your video anymore, I have the same model but it stopped detecting metal and chrome cassettes, when the door is open and I move my finger inside, I can feel the nobs on the top and when I press them, the metal and chrome LED light up, have you ever opened this unit before, I've had Denon over past 3 decades and this is my first Technics which I bought it 2nd hand about 20 yrs ago. Thanks.
Finally am getting a 965.I found the owners manual online and I find it strange that you record dbx at much lower levels on this deck than my 905.5 db on the 965 8 db on the 905..with normal and chrome tape.
forget the dbx, get the thing serviced and upgraded and get a wow and flutter test tape. I have seen a few 965's now with high wow and flutter due to the supply capstan worn out
What can you say about the dynamic noise reduction system? In the Soviet vehicles it was business as usual. Also called "Mayak". Question - it has something to do with dbc? The same Dolby D.
so you;re saying with dolby HX Pro alone is not good enough?.. i thought with HX Pro, dbx, dolby b,c is no more need ? can you confirm with testing? will HX Pro alone replace dolby b, c for CD quality?. you should use type II tape to hear the different.. i',m not sure noise reduction are not required in metal tape.. will i able to hear the different?
stationed in Korea i would record a album in dbx id swear it sounded better than the record a D C Technics amp a pair of 901s i think north korea coud hear it my 1st sgt would say
dbx is awesome, but you better have everything right about your machines calibration settings or it is just bad. Worse than Dolby and that is bad enough. Otherwise yeah. The most powerful Noise Reduction made.
Got my 965 yesterday. It was extremely dirty so I cleaned it the best I could.This morning when I hit play it would play a couple of seconds then shut off.Also the transport is making a squeaky noise and it ate a maxell ur tape.Also last night when recording the dbx shut off by itself.Any thoughts?
This is unfortunately an example of why i don't recommend 965's dbx issue my guess is dirty switches in push buttons. you will need to un-solder all 20 or so micro switches and replace with new chewing tapes - dirty pinch rollers, bad belt, or something misaligned ? squeaking noise - transport needs rebuild/clean/service there is some 965 pics here, www.flickr.com/photos/155449224@N04 and here www.tapeheads.net/showpost.php?p=718495&postcount=91 you need a m300 alignment gauge or replica to properly align and set up the transport (see pics) you need a proper wow and flutter test tape to make sure supply capstan or bush isn't worn out. trust me these decks can be a real pain in the ass. BTW are you in the UK?
No in the US. The tape I made saturday morning before all the issues sounds amazing on my 905.Not only play but ff and rew quit wotking as well.like I said whoever had it never cleaned or lubed anything.Why can't the buttons be cleaned with deoxit?
you can clean them with deoxit and a few months later your issues will come back.. join tapeheads forums there are a lot of members from US in there. you need to send to your deck to a qualified experienced technician - there is a few in US on tapeheads - Good luck flic.kr/p/ZN4FmQ flic.kr/p/ZL4XrS change every microswitch
Miałem ten model kilka lat , na metalowych Tdk MA XG zapis z CD był nie do odróżnienia ale nie wiem czy to mój tylko egzemplarz ale często zgniatał taśmy i potem go sprzedałem.
Ktoś musiał kręcić w ustawieniach głowicy albo prowadnicy taśmy, ja ustawiłem mojego na oryginalnej kasecie i wszystko jest ok, ale poprzednio ten deck grał w dyskotece w roku 91 i ustawienia głowicy zmieniło się do każdej kasety
Była to fabryczna przypadłość tego modelu. Mam ten sprzęt od nowości. Też zgniatał taśmy. Po wizycie w serwisie Panasonic w Krakowie , krótko po zakupie, skończyło się zgniatanie taśm. Wymiana wadliwej części była za darmo. Gra do tej pory bez zarzutu.
my 965 is going bonkers! Every key i press, shows wrong display text and function. For example: When i press "play" the deck opens the cassette bay, or the record function is active.
in that case you need to clean (with contact cleaner) or ideally replace all the microswitches behind every push button this is a common fault its best to de solder and replace, if you clean it and leave it a few months it will just do it again also while soldering iron is out fix all cracked and dry solder joints on every board, also a common issue
top model, last edition? ps i grow up with t decks. i will give u intro for next video. 1. show difference in calibration of normal, chrome and metal cassette. with the finger inside of deck you can active auto filters. tell the people that normal cassettes have less high tone... and they are not good. that chrome cassette has more of high tones. show them that tdk cassette has extra ordinary dynamic sound recording. show them when you recording with the Dolby you are boosting high tones. When you playing you are filtering with the reason of filtering the friction noise. C has more wide range than B. MPX filter is used for recording from FM only. Timer on... in case you are not on set and electricity goes off. Deck will play automatically when electricity is back. Or on the time you want. ah those days. best d
D. Tupaic hi there thank you for the comment. Technics made a lot really great decks, a few well known ones are RS-M95 , RS-B100, RS-B965 and finally RS-AZ7. They are the most desirable. I have just got an AZ7 too will try make a video this weekend
It will be pleasure to see it. I wish you can compare t amplifier distortions with other sound amplifiers. i do bet that t aa class amplifier is still no 1 amplifier on the world by quality
D. Tupaic I think the class AA are great for distortion levels, and I like the sound of my 909s but a lot of hifi forums don't rate technics amps too greatly. I have had Yamaha, Arcam, Cambridge audio and Sony, I think the technics is just fine
maybe they are right. but NON of them showed proper testing or knows what is inside.. aa tech is made my technics only. it is not just about distortion, it is also about low noise too. magazine bla bla talks
I don't read magazines for reasons like that, they are all paid by manufacturers to say its good, and it annoys me when they use words for describing images to describe sound, such as colourful
I've been in love with this model since 1992 !!!
i have a pair of em from the PX in 1984 99.99 ea & no tax
Just received one I purchased via ebay. Can’t wait to use it 🎉🎉
One of the best ever made!
Great video, many thanks !
Най добрия дек на всички времена
Very few tape decks have dbx built in (other than Tascam 4-track units). I found an external dbx encoder/decoder at a thrift store last weekend, and I plan to try it out with some recordings soon. Liked and subscribed.
I love dbx and that is one reason I wanted this deck.
Hello, yes, a top product from Technics. I have the AZ 7 and the BX 606 (without drive belt) from Technics + JVC TD V 562 and Pioneer CT WM 77r, the 8050 from Kenwood is also there. 3 HiFi systems connected to 3 digital Dolby Atmos amplifiers. The sound is really great. Best wishes
Love tapes still. Have 3 decks, one a reel to reel Sony 1977 and is great!
Very nice
That's an awesome deck. Dolby DBX is awesome in a way that you can play the tapes in a non-Dolby tape decks. Tapes recorded in Dolby B or Dolby C must be played in that format. Playing tapes in a non-Dolby decks will sound metallic similar to MP3 sound. Dolby S is also not bad. Tapes recorded in Dolby S format still sound well in non-Dolby decoded decks. I never use Dolby B or C for that reason. Dolby DBX and Dolby S are the only formats I use. Another thing is, if you record tapes louder, 2-3 bars past the normal level, you can use the Dolby feature increasing the levels of sound quality. Remember, it's not the tape that hisses, rather the stereo or deck itself hisses and the hiss gets recorded unto a cassette. You can see for yourself by blocking the sensors, and with no tape loaded in the deck, press play, and you will hear the same hissing noise with no tape in the deck. It upsets me when people say it's the "tape" hiss, when in reality it's not. I've been proving it to so many people, and some people still say "tape" hiss, instead of deck hiss. Try it for yourself, you'll find out the truth.
DBX works too harsh and too rigid . You have listen more carefully , then you'll find that Dolby B sounds the best . Everything you do to eliminate tape hiss damages the original dynamic of the source .. When this deck cane out , I was very disappointed in Technics . It doesn't even have a cassette backlight , I mean come on .. for the topmodel . The sound of the mechanical part is also an abomination . It doesn't even have a cammotor for engaging the heads onto the cassette . When you press play some severe blows can be heard , just like some cheap entry level decks.. What a difference compared to the decks from late seventies.. Those were awesome . This one's a joke ..
I have a TEAC A550-RX deck with DBX built 1979.
It has 80dB S/N, decks with dolby C took another decade to reach this.
Always hated DBX recordings.The pumping and breathing were inherent to that system no matter how you calibrated it.Dplby C and at the end the fantastic Dolby S for me
I love dbx but you have to encode your recordings in dbx to truly benefit. This makes encoded tapes sound awful in non dbx decks. Dolby isn't the same in this regard.
But overall, dbx is a great idea that works on vinyl (if the record is dbx) and of course reel to reel which I've used many times.
Is that a Maxell UR tape or Sony tape made by Maxell? Or TDK tape that's also made by Maxell?, the way blank tapes are made and sold nowadays.
will upgrade from RS BX 404 to this one.
you are not recording loud enough when using dbx.8db with normal and chrome tapes...12 with metal.dbx not only eliminates noise,but extends dynamic range to 110 db.
i don't use dbx on metal or chrome tape, my rs-b965 has been modified and don't need it
That's... More dynamic range than a CD. Damn.
dbx lowers the noise floor and increases the headroom. So yes, you could say it gives you better dynamics and better signal-to-noise level. Depending on the music I record and tape i use, I would turn it on/off on my RS-B965 when recording. I'll post more videos of recording with it for everyone to watch :)
very cool
Tape noise? Even though it's not the tape that makes noise, that noise does get recorded unto the tape eventually if you don't record them properly. Try playing a brand new blank tape, you might hear some noise that the tape deck itself produces, then remove the tape and press play, you will hear the same exact noise without a tape in the deck. Bottom line is that it's not the tapes that hiss rather the tape deck itself hisses. How many times do I have to explain it to people.
Love this deck can you tell me hows good is this deck, I am thinking to get one or should i consider other deck...!!
Przy nagrywaniu w systemie DBX powinieneś ustawić poziom nagrywania +10 / +12 db. W przeciwnym razie słyszalny będzie efekt "pompowania" dźwięku. To wynika ze specyfikacji systemy DBX. Nie bój się nie będzie zniekształceń a znacząco poprawi to jakość dźwięku. ;)
great advise thanks
Hey mate, not sure if you check your video anymore, I have the same model but it stopped detecting metal and chrome cassettes, when the door is open and I move my finger inside, I can feel the nobs on the top and when I press them, the metal and chrome LED light up, have you ever opened this unit before, I've had Denon over past 3 decades and this is my first Technics which I bought it 2nd hand about 20 yrs ago. Thanks.
I got this b965 for £5 is this a good deal ?
fajna maszyna :-)
Finally am getting a 965.I found the owners manual online and I find it strange that you record dbx at much lower levels on this deck than my 905.5 db on the 965 8 db on the 905..with normal and chrome tape.
forget the dbx, get the thing serviced and upgraded and get a wow and flutter test tape.
I have seen a few 965's now with high wow and flutter due to the supply capstan worn out
What can you say about the dynamic noise reduction system? In the Soviet vehicles it was business as usual. Also called "Mayak". Question - it has something to do with dbc? The same Dolby D.
Yeah! dbx rules !!!
Only if you like pumping and breathing
so after setting bias and level you do not return knobs to center position?
so you;re saying with dolby HX Pro alone is not good enough?.. i thought with HX Pro, dbx, dolby b,c is no more need ? can you confirm with testing? will HX Pro alone replace dolby b, c for CD quality?. you should use type II tape to hear the different.. i',m not sure noise reduction are not required in metal tape.. will i able to hear the different?
Technics RS -B 965 deck , gostaria de saber o valor do deck Célio de Guarulhos
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hi, which frequency used deck for calibrate the tapes? (rec and bias)
Any considerable improvements from the 905 ?
miles better once modified
What excactlly do you mean modified i mean modify what parts ?
Thx for any reply :-)
stationed in Korea i would record a album in dbx id swear it sounded better than the record a D C Technics amp a pair of 901s i think north korea coud hear it my 1st sgt would say
I want to buy it
👍👍👍super !
dbx is awesome, but you better have everything right about your machines calibration settings or it is just bad. Worse than Dolby and that is bad enough. Otherwise yeah. The most powerful Noise Reduction made.
Got my 965 yesterday. It was extremely dirty so I cleaned it the best I could.This morning when I hit play it would play a couple of seconds then shut off.Also the transport is making a squeaky noise and it ate a maxell ur tape.Also last night when recording the dbx shut off by itself.Any thoughts?
This is unfortunately an example of why i don't recommend 965's
dbx issue my guess is dirty switches in push buttons. you will need to un-solder all 20 or so micro switches and replace with new
chewing tapes - dirty pinch rollers, bad belt, or something misaligned ?
squeaking noise - transport needs rebuild/clean/service
there is some 965 pics here, www.flickr.com/photos/155449224@N04
and here www.tapeheads.net/showpost.php?p=718495&postcount=91
you need a m300 alignment gauge or replica to properly align and set up the transport (see pics)
you need a proper wow and flutter test tape to make sure supply capstan or bush isn't worn out.
trust me these decks can be a real pain in the ass. BTW are you in the UK?
No in the US. The tape I made saturday morning before all the issues sounds amazing on my 905.Not only play but ff and rew quit wotking as well.like I said whoever had it never cleaned or lubed anything.Why can't the buttons be cleaned with deoxit?
you can clean them with deoxit and a few months later your issues will come back.. join tapeheads forums there are a lot of members from US in there. you need to send to your deck to a qualified experienced technician - there is a few in US on tapeheads - Good luck
flic.kr/p/ZN4FmQ
flic.kr/p/ZL4XrS
change every microswitch
thanks..I am a member but everyone is so booked up.I will take it to my dealer..they have a good repair shop.
Show the Speakers also
Miałem ten model kilka lat , na metalowych Tdk MA XG zapis z CD był nie do odróżnienia ale nie wiem czy to mój tylko egzemplarz ale często zgniatał taśmy i potem go sprzedałem.
Musiało coś być nie tak, mój ani jednej taśmy nie zjadł
Ktoś musiał kręcić w ustawieniach głowicy albo prowadnicy taśmy, ja ustawiłem mojego na oryginalnej kasecie i wszystko jest ok, ale poprzednio ten deck grał w dyskotece w roku 91 i ustawienia głowicy zmieniło się do każdej kasety
Była to fabryczna przypadłość tego modelu. Mam ten sprzęt od nowości. Też zgniatał taśmy. Po wizycie w serwisie Panasonic w Krakowie , krótko po zakupie, skończyło się zgniatanie taśm. Wymiana wadliwej części była za darmo. Gra do tej pory bez zarzutu.
my 965 is going bonkers! Every key i press, shows wrong display text and function.
For example: When i press "play" the deck opens the cassette bay, or the record function is active.
in that case you need to clean (with contact cleaner) or ideally replace all the microswitches behind every push button this is a common fault
its best to de solder and replace, if you clean it and leave it a few months it will just do it again
also while soldering iron is out fix all cracked and dry solder joints on every board, also a common issue
Thank you very much for the answer!
If you don't need dbx why do you have it turned on?
lghaze42 demoing bro
top model, last edition? ps i grow up with t decks. i will give u intro for next video. 1. show difference in calibration of normal, chrome and metal cassette. with the finger inside of deck you can active auto filters. tell the people that normal cassettes have less high tone... and they are not good. that chrome cassette has more of high tones. show them that tdk cassette has extra ordinary dynamic sound recording. show them when you recording with the Dolby you are boosting high tones. When you playing you are filtering with the reason of filtering the friction noise. C has more wide range than B. MPX filter is used for recording from FM only. Timer on... in case you are not on set and electricity goes off. Deck will play automatically when electricity is back. Or on the time you want. ah those days. best d
D. Tupaic hi there thank you for the comment. Technics made a lot really great decks, a few well known ones are RS-M95 , RS-B100, RS-B965 and finally RS-AZ7. They are the most desirable. I have just got an AZ7 too will try make a video this weekend
It will be pleasure to see it. I wish you can compare t amplifier distortions with other sound amplifiers. i do bet that t aa class amplifier is still no 1 amplifier on the world by quality
D. Tupaic I think the class AA are great for distortion levels, and I like the sound of my 909s but a lot of hifi forums don't rate technics amps too greatly. I have had Yamaha, Arcam, Cambridge audio and Sony, I think the technics is just fine
maybe they are right. but NON of them showed proper testing or knows what is inside.. aa tech is made my technics only. it is not just about distortion, it is also about low noise too. magazine bla bla talks
I don't read magazines for reasons like that, they are all paid by manufacturers to say its good, and it annoys me when they use words for describing images to describe sound, such as colourful
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Man ! all you need is a JVC gold reel to reel metal cassette!
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