Technics RS-B965 and Technics RS-AZ7 demo
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2016
- Technics RS-B965 vs Technics RS-AZ7
A sound capture card is on my shopping list so I can do these videos properly
In this test, I don't think there was much in it. If I recorded the same song with and without dbx, the 965 would blow it away - Věda a technologie
Both decks excellent! Well worth watching & listening! 🙂
They're both very nice, but the bass is better and more "solid" on the RS-AZ7.
All simple, Just Different Azimuth
both of them are incredible machines , az7 has newer technology but 965 it's more heavy weight built .................i choose 965 only because i like display more.....
A good deck has great meters. Can't beat the meters on the 965. They look like an after thought on the az7.
I like them both! They sound good to me! ☺🔊🔊
The 965 is an outstanding deck but wouldn't trash AZ-7 like some guys did. AZ-7 is a very good sounding deck. I just didn't find it as a great recording deck. Both are great and thanks for sharing them with us.
Technics my top favorite hi-fi audio - video brand
{ no hate for the other brands i also have Yamaha - Denon & Onkyo }
~~~~ MADE IN JAPAN THE MOST IMPORTANT NO MATTER THE BRAND ~~~~
~~~~ All of the 70s - 80s -& 90s Japanese brands are the best for me :-) ~~~~
i have a lot of Technics separates since 1988 - and 1997 the last buy as new !
only tape deck & stereo tuner was missing :-(
But i bought as used but like new from ebay stereo receiver st-gt350 this summer of 2018 and i'm waitting { from ebay again } for my deck rs-bx707 probobly next friday :-)
Anyway MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL PEOPLE :-)
@@Badassvidsz that's great. I prefer Technics in most cases as well. Lot's of respect to other brands and their products. You should make some videos of the stuff as well.
@@technics-n-thuiast8346
My Sony handycam HI8 video camera is badlly broken and i can't make videos for the time being at-least but i have in mind to buy another HI8 from ebay as used since i have a lot of HI8 tapes and yeah why not i will probobly make some videos of my stereo :-)
And my update finally i've received the deck rs-bx707 it's a fantastic machine i'm happy i bought it and of course it's >
Now with it i have full Technics tower all made in Japan except the CDp the SL-PS770A which is made in Germany it's since 1996 and still plays like new :-)
My regards dear Bojan and my best wishes for this new year to everyone thx for your reply .........................Nick from Greece :-)
Badassvidsz thank you. Best wishes to you too and enjoy your stereo.
@@Badassvidsz yes made in japan is standard quality products
They long long time clen play
Im happy to own both decks too. AZ7 is in my Main configuraton but i could never sell the 965
The RS-B 965 is the Best audio!!!!!!!!!!!!
Super
To compare 2 decks there must be some service first.
Both decks must be in perfect mechanical performance.
Both decks must be calibrated on factory specs values by service manual.
Both decks azimuth and speed must be aligned with the same reference tape and oscilloscope,wow/flutter meter etc.
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the 965 is the best and last high end deck made by Technics.The dbx alone makes it the winner.
technics rs-b100 is better
Też posiadam te dwa modele wielokrotnie je porównywałem rs-az7 wydaje się bardziej dynamiczy
Lepsza dynamika w az-7
Excelente 👍
i love AZ7
Ultimate Technics series decks in letters.
M; M280 similar to M95 but with dual capstans and dual pinch rollers as well as Sendust head over Ferrite head for better quality tapes capabilities.
B; B100 DBX with both disc and tape, amorphous head as well as with M280 bias and level calibrations.
BX; BX747, be sure to get the Japanese market deck as they are dual capstans. Full calibrations bias level equalizer with bias adjust.
AZ; AZ7 DCC tape head technology, amorphous-z head
I have a 965.After setting bias and level do I return knobs to center or leave them alone. I see nothing about this in the owner's manual.
清晰音樂好聽
Nice
Um do melhor 🔊 som que tem a technics antigos é maravilhoso não existe outro aparelho como ese
Technics matsushita number one.
the rsb 965is verry good but the az7 personely is better i have one and also az6 and nakamichi but i like the az7 greatings from belguim
Is it me or did the top deck sound better?
You used a tape recorded on B965 which gives B965 the advantage. How about tape recorded with AZ7? Where is B965 then?
use dbx when recording tapes to be played on the 605.It not only reduces tape hiss much better than dolby b or c but extends dynamic range to 110 db.
u dont need any noise reduction on metal tapes with a decent deck
if anything the NR can ruin the sound
I have two questions: 1. In which one was the song recorded? Was the head adjust in both decks to this record?
azimuth is the same
probably recorded on the 965 or an 828
AZ-7 is the end of an era, the common sound of this deck is dull, flat and grey, 965 is more better and + it has dual capstan, manual calibration and great dеsign
L'AZ7 suona da Dio, ha solo un wow & flutter da 0,07, che neanche un'autoradio di media qualità aveva! Se la rifacessero migliorando sensibilmente questo parametro, sarebbe una bomba totale!
AZ7 without Dolby plays fantasic sound. It's pity that hasn't double capstan mechanism. Piano, guitar sometimes sounds fatally
Si nota a volte il suono tremolante, causa wow & flutter di 0,07 contro l'altra mia Pioneer che invece ha 0,022, confermo il suono fantastico della AZ7 TECHNICS!
@@marianicolosi6770 I have KENWOOD KX-9050 after tuning, mechanism is fantastic. Double capstan is very important 😉
The RS-AZ7 does not need a second capstan roller due to the very high sensitivity of the new (at that time) amorphous head. The manufacturer abandoned it not because of savings, but because with this type of playback head there is no need for a second roller. There is no need to tighten the tape so much to the head.
@@witoldtosta4242 Mechanism RS AZ7 is not very good 😉
@@piotro9994 It is good enough to keep it play well. I wonder why do people still keep asking of lack of a dual capstan in this deck.
965!
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The RS-B 965 is the Best audio deck from Technics
I owned one this deck is beated a lot of Nackamichi
Ferenc Kovács thanks for comment - I am modifying it after xmas with ANT4066 will it be on par with a lot of high end decks then. I have a backup 965 now too I love them a lot
Technics Guy Well worth doing. I had ANT do this mod to my 965 along with Alps head upgrade and the sound is obviously clearer and better than stock.
VintageLynx hi there thanks, my deck is now modded with another video of it
Ferenc Kovács hmm you should to listen teac 's top models : )
I don`t hear any difference between them.
965 !!!
Если сравнить моменты в районе 0:48 и 3:00 - AZ играет детальней. Сравнивать лучше запись сделанную на каждой деке по отдельности.
И лучше в склейку и не захваченную микрофоном камеры.
It is not known on which device the record was
Also, ich denke der 7 er spielt leichfüssiger und hat mehr Bass und Räumlichkeit, der 965er ist aber im Hoch Ton Bereich und Auflösung irgendwie präziser bzw. akkurater, zumindest scheint es mir so. Das war der Audio Gerätetest über Smartphone,AAC oder was das für'n Codec is' und über 1€ 50 Kopfhörer von Hama.
The RS-B 965 is the Best deck!!! The RS-B 965 is much better!!!
First is better stereo!!
Actually AZ6 and AZ7 are Technics best recorders as they calibrate bias, level and eq whereas the other Technics only calibrate bias and level.
they do have a nice 3 stage calibration system (all-be-it very slow) but a modified rs-b965 is still miles better have a read about them on tapeheads forum
Technics Guy When playing, B965 beats AZ7
When recording, AZ7 beats B965
do you own an az7 and an ANT modified RS-B965 ??
Technics Guy No.
can't really comment like that then can you lol
The best deck from Technics is RS-M95. The KING deck.
Luan Hana agreed
Not sure how and why technics went so downhill
That not just for thechnics for all tape players .When CD come .that was end off all cassette players. But the time show as, a cassette players are sounding better . I love to tape decks sounds amazing .Thanks Technics Guy.
@Luan Hana: There are actually two Technics king decks and they are RS-M280 and RS-B100. Both are dual capstans over RS-M95 which is only a single capstans deck. Think of why Nakamichi and many manufacturers ultimate decks were dual capstans. :-)
@@zetecfiesta Wasn't just Technics, all brands started to invest in new technologies and production volume increase with underestimating the quality in both built and sound. Everything made past 1995-ish is mostly crap. Only stuff from Japan for Japanese market was still ok.
RS-B965 good sound superior...
AZ-7 brzmi jamnikowato - nic więcej przez neta nie powiem,
most important is quartz lock direct drive.ive studied tape magnetism and passed with the highest grades.
actually some belt driven decks are better than direct drive
so whats the difference between AZ7 and the AZ6 ? I have found a great deal on the AZ6.
transport is same, electronics are better quality in az7 and az7 has play direct. I doubt most people could tell difference in sound. I've seen az6's selling for £50 that's an amazing price tbh
thanks for reply.. only i have got interest in either the AZ6 or the BX808 fore the same price (£100)
Jonathan Bruce take the rs-bx808 , just make sure the head is not worn and you change the belt it's really easy. Then go on tape heads and perform the mods, search rsbx828)
Thanks very much for your reply . I'm building up myself a half-decent system comprising of some bits I've managed to get nearly new and some much older. My next purchase is a Marantz PM6006 Amp, and possibly the Technics SH-GE70. I already have a Marantz CD67SE, Tascam MD301mk2, Dali Zensor 1 Speakers and a Sansui Fr-d35 Record Player. I will also have my iMac 5k plugged into the Amp eventually. Once it is finished i will post a picture for you, if you're interested.
yeh send a pic sounds good
965+
Ez have you ever changed a amplifier capacitor on a Technics RS-B965 my deck has no sound at all the metres are really low the heads are clean like new any ideas?
DEVY406 check for broken solder joints and bad connections first
will the amplifier capacitor be on the same side where you plug the phono sockets are thanks
DEVY406 no mate it's marked playback eq on board you'll see where the smaller plug from head goes it probably won't even be a cap
so what you reckon it is then should I take the board out and look for bad solder joint
DEVY406 yeh or broken wire , also make sure head isn't open circuit but that is seriously unlikely
They sound very simmilar... but this way of recording its not the best to get the different audio output details each machine produce.
They are not the same, they wont sound the same thats for shure...
What matters is that they deserve to be with someone who understands them and takes care of them... they're in good hands 🙄
Thanks again mate!
paulo fix hi thanks for comment I also tried some pre recorded cassettes I have, the results were similar then but the music wasn't copy right free
I believe that both are really good decks but the rs-b9 sounded better and more superior.
Agreed.
Very nice deck recoded on a poor microphone. Why not plug it's output in to your computer's input so we can properly hear them sing.
Price....?
Are they available today to buy?
I sincerely hope that you can visit my stereo shop. I sincerely invite you and look forward to your reply.
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Tengo ambos deck
965 well better deck
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Easy as pie.Technics RS B 965 is superior and far far better...
И .еще я заметил. Что Когда записываешь на 747.705 или 701./ 965 не было/ то на AZ 7 .
Уровень записи за лазит на 0
Искажений нет .но люди обращают внимания. Что пишу
Как бы с перегрузом.ПОЧЕМУ ТАК ПРОИСХОДИТ
What's the 1st song?
blue monday
Thank you. Finanlly I find the music that I heard when I was a child but cannot remember the name now.
New Order: Blue Monday, also on THE WAVE 103 on GTA VCS.
Sound the same.
965 ..it best sound ..expanse sound ..az 7 ...fake sound ...discasting
No good comparsion:
1) You enabled "Play Direct" on the AZ7.
Play Direct sucks ! Record in Dolby C, activate Dolby C and play it again.
2) Do you know the history from your RZ7 ? Maybe some idiot used a Head Clean Device, and fucked up the Head, and now the Head is in bad condition.
I have a AZ7 in Top Condition and it sounds awesome.
Even Best decks need Dolby, not because of noise, but because of dynamic and bass precision, that's why even Studio Decks got Dolby S
I like the noisy, high, and reverb sound from "non dolby" too, but that's in the first moment, it's subjective.
But when i hear exactly and compare it to the Original from my Technics SL PS770D the Dolby C recording is way more like the original (and that's the Point for a good recording ! Not to change it to much) the HiHats, Bass Precision & deepness is without Dolby C, miles away from the SL PS770.
Take a Track like "Out of space" from Prodigy.
Record & Play it with Dolby C acivated, then try it without, there are worlds in precision between non Dolby and Dolby C.
Like i mention before, the Play Direct Function suck !
Make a comparsion, when both Decks use Dolby C, and upload the Original too.
Most PC Sound Cards sound like shit ! My SL PS 770D rapes my Asus Xonar DGX.
I have some calibrated and modified decks, I tell you what I will record a nice vinyl same track with and without dolby c just to test
Ok do that. I dont say the RS-B965 is worse or better as the RS AZ 7 but thrust me when i say, the RS AZ 7 sounds excellent with Type 2 & 4 Tapes (especially with TDK) and Dolby C.
Check out some fast drum'n'bass stuff, with many channels, deep bass and fast break beats.
Maybe the guy from the refurbish Service , did not know that he harm the Amorpheus Z Head if he try to demagnetize it ?
Did he change the Head vs a replacment head ?
Look, this guy here is some from this audiophile freaks (i think his sound equipment is in the 10-20k range)
www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=8817
and rate the RS AZ 7 very good.
And i can totaly agree with that guy.
The Sound is so good, that i record Flac stuff from my PC, and play it on my RS AZ7 xD
i serviced it my self
www.tapeheads.net/showpost.php?p=353057&postcount=1 enjoy
Według mnie to rs b965 gra lepiej i to się słyszy, 'Z' gra bardzo nie naturalnie (plastikowo)
Колонки бубнят
AZ7 по сравнению с B965, дешёвая игрушка, особенно если заглянуть во внутрь, хотя и со всеми опциями.
Sorry mate but the AZ7 is a pure joke in comparasion to any decent 3head deck.
Heads are mounted on PLASTIC and dont even retain azimuth! All gears are usually molten (if they re not , they will) Mechanism is a joke.
That thing was made to run 5-10 years MAX.
after 90s most deck manufacturers started cutting costs everywhere in design. You are absolutely right about that. And while pre 90s models the high quality was obvious they also had their flaws too. I know, 965 was made in 90/91 but it is the end of quality production. Still have RS-B765 (just one model below 965 - no dbx, single capstan and no cd direct but everything else the same). Still working but control switches playing up (hard to get to them) some transistors and resistors overheating the circuit board changing the colour around them. Only one belt for door operating motor and still in good condition but had to replace a cracked transport sprocket. On the other hand Sony TC-K777 I paid a lot for it in those days and after just a couple of years so much problems with mechanism. No spares available as easy as today and no CZcams videos to show you at least disassembly or repair... Friend of mine bought a cheap Sony TC-FX422R in 1985 and after a few years of using it he stopped and left it in his rack for a couple of years (went overseas to work). When he came back deck wouldn't spin. When we opened the cover the capstan and counter belts turned into black goo. Very hard job to clean the pulleys to replace the belts. After replacement deck was fine but a couple of years later the auto reverse was playing up. I think Sony made some excellent decks but being overengineered prone to mechanical faults.
My most abused and longest lasting deck was Technics RS-M245X with the wired remote control. It had amorphous alloy heads (AX) head and while people discuss what type of head last longest, I am telling everyone, I never noticed degradation on this Technics AX head and it did quite a mileage. Recordings were quite good too compared to competition brands in the same price range. However a regular cleaning was performed too.
So when you compare (even with flaws) the old decks and the post 90s models you are right, most post 90s models are just a joke. For more advanced available technology after 90s, if they kept the quality and stopped cutting the cost in production, we would have a real masterpieces today and most of them would be fully operational with a minimal maintenance. Instead we have an old broken "newer" boxes packed with features which dont work and mostly with the crap audio handling...
@@beograd07 I never found technics decks with good mechanics/built to last, maybe the very old rs m95 wich definetly looks built up to a certain quality standard, but the others like RS-B765/965 simply have too much plastic
Microswitches are also indeed most likely to fail on technics decks for some reason.
Belts turning to goo is common on pretty much all brands, no deck bought secound-hand even if it "spins", it shoulndn't have wear put on it untill it s been overhauled properly (re oiled, re greased, re adjusted etc)
the az7 is a piece of shit compared to the 965
Synthematix hahaha
hello...we suppose that because of the less good factory quality, the less buttons and electronic gimmicks on the az-7 but what counts is the playback and recording quality, not the weight nor the price or the look...but I kind of prefer he RS- B965 because of the mass of buttons and the big display...well I got manipulated in the 80's and 90's and still am...but I begin to listen to others opinions out of concrete trieouts.