Composing Twelve-Tone Music - Implications of Tonality in Serialism

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • How to approach constructing a note row that also incorporates a sense of tonality. The music composition lesson explores how to build in some implication of a key within a twelve-tone serial piece and explains how to achieve a successful note row that combines diatonic triads with chromaticism.
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    0:00 - Introduction to implications of tonality
    1:32 - Key centres within an atonal piece
    5:15 - Overusing diatonic triads when constructing a row
    7:56 - Example of a more chromatic row and tonal implication
    12:45 - Conclusion
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Komentáře • 30

  • @MusicMattersGB
    @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem

    Composing Twelve-Tone Music - Get the rest of this course here!
    www.mmcourses.co.uk/p/composing-twelve-tone-music-course/

  • @jayducharme
    @jayducharme Před rokem +7

    I wish I had seen this years ago. I was asked to write a soundtrack to a short film, and the director insisted he wanted no discernible melody and no harmony. It was the most difficult project I ever worked on, because I gravitate toward tonal music. Asking me not to do the thing I always do made it really challenging, but fortunately he was happy with the result. I even convinced him to let me bring some tonality in at the end of the piece to give it a sense of finality. 😊

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem +6

      I’m glad it worked out well.

    • @coreylapinas1000
      @coreylapinas1000 Před 11 měsíci

      I don't see how this would help. Schoenberg is rife with identifiable themes. Meanwhile you'd have trouble finding something in Reger that you'll walk away humming.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před 11 měsíci

      😀

  • @SquidKing
    @SquidKing Před rokem +4

    just been listening to Berg’s violin concerto - very topical 😁

  • @abagatelle
    @abagatelle Před rokem +4

    Too complicated for me Gareth. I have to learn enough about normal tonal techniques first. And then there's modes! So I'll bookmark this and come back to it in a few years time.

  • @ghazaleatefy2644
    @ghazaleatefy2644 Před rokem

    This video helps me alot. Thank you so much🌷

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem

      A pleasure. You can find the complete course at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @martinbennett2228
    @martinbennett2228 Před rokem +2

    Liszt's tone row in his Faust symphony is built on four descending augmented chords (I do not know of an earlier example of a tone row in a composition). I suppose he uses a kind of chromatic whole tone harmony. Does this contradict Krenek?
    Perhaps it depends how the tone row is used. If used as a theme (which is what I think you are describing), both of your rows have possibilities (though I think both would be improved if they started on a B). I would guess that contrapuntal serial harmony might favour the second tone row, but much would depend on the rhythm (in the first row Ab F Db could be a triplet to give a tonality that wanders around C, G and D, - major and minor).
    Thank you for a tempting taster for the rest of your course.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem +1

      The whole area of tonal/ atonal implication is a fascinating dimension of the topic.

  • @AtomizedSound
    @AtomizedSound Před rokem

    I’ve always been fascinated by twelve-tone or serialism music from composers such as Schoenberg. I feel it’s the precipice of western music that bridges on some eastern music cultures too, but I’ve always found it difficult to get into. Having a video that really dives in to it and all aspects would be helpful to get into the atonal aspect

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem

      We have a whole course on it at www.mmcourses.co.uk

  • @TheDilshanM
    @TheDilshanM Před rokem

    Great!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem +1

      The whole course is here. www.mmcourses.co.uk/p/composing-twelve-tone-music-course

  • @evelyneduval6441
    @evelyneduval6441 Před rokem +1

    Very interesting, thanks for this video!
    I tried to write an atonal piece some time ago, inspired by a later of your videos on the topic. But I soon got desperate about it, due to my inaptitude to create a melody with the limited row...

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem +2

      You can always be more flexible with a shorter row that doesn’t use all 12 notes

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem

      You can always be more flexible with a shorter row that doesn’t use all 12 notes

  • @freddecker2407
    @freddecker2407 Před rokem

    Would you ever use a row that is less than 12 tones? Could you use a 4 or 5 tone row for a short segment in an otherwise tonal piece, for example?

  • @albertsiltal2600
    @albertsiltal2600 Před rokem

    WOW.

  • @argusfleibeit1165
    @argusfleibeit1165 Před rokem

    What is the danger? Your audience may walk out, while a couple of them want to punch you in the nose. Several students may have nervous breakdowns, and at least one will drop out of school to follow the Grateful Dead on tour.

  • @canman5060
    @canman5060 Před rokem

    Arnold Schoenberg.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před rokem +1

      He’s the founder

    • @coreylapinas1000
      @coreylapinas1000 Před 11 měsíci

      @@MusicMattersGB technically Josef Matthias Hauer is. But he created more or less pleasant music with tone rows and viewed dodecaphony as some sort of mystical language.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Před 11 měsíci

      Okay but Schoenberg is the true founder of The Second Viennese School.