The Weigh In - Top 10 MOST Durable FPV Frames Of 2024 || Episode 2
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Frames tested:
1. FlyFishRC Volador - pyrodrone.com/products/flyfis...
2. ImpulseRC Apex Evo - www.getfpv.com/impulserc-apex...
3. Vannystyle - www.getfpv.com/vanover-vannys...
Here’s what I fly:
4. Team Maniacs Oily Rig - www.teammaniacs.com/product-p...
5. Ummagawd Demibot - ummagawd.com/products/botgrin...
6. iFlight AOS 5 V5 - www.getfpv.com/aos-rc-v5-fram...
7. Rotor Riot TANQ 2 - rotorriot.com/products/tanq-2...
8. Supa Fly Syncmode V2 - supaflyfpv.com/product/syncmode/
9. Five33 Flip Switch - flyfive33.com/collections/fli...
10. Pirate Punch - www.myfpvstore.com/quadcopter...
What I fly:
DJI O3 Air Unit - www.getfpv.com/dji-o3-air-uni...
DJI O3 replacement parts -
Camera module - www.getfpv.com/dji-o3-air-uni...
Antenna - www.getfpv.com/dji-o3-air-uni...
Air Unit - www.getfpv.com/dji-o3-air-uni...
Motors 2407 - www.getfpv.com/lumenier-zip-v...
Motors 2207.5 - www.getfpv.com/lumenier-zip-v...
Kiss rig:
ESC - www.getfpv.com/fettec-45a-3-6...
FC - store.kiss-ultra.com/en-us/pr...
ESC - www.getfpv.com/hobbywing-xrot...
Props - www.getfpv.com/t-motor-t5143s...
Lipo - www.getfpv.com/thunder-power-...
Goggles V2 - www.getfpv.com/dji-fpv-goggle...
Goggle V2 foam - www.getfpv.com/iflight-sponge...
Goggle V2 antennas - www.getfpv.com/lumenier-axii-...
Goggle strap - www.getfpv.com/ethix-goggle-s...
Goggle lipo - www.getfpv.com/tattu-r-line-v...
Goggle 2’s - www.getfpv.com/dji-goggles-2....
X-Lite Pro Controller - www.getfpv.com/frsky-x-lite-p...
ImmersionRC Ghost link - www.getfpv.com/immersionrc-gh...
Control antenna - www.getfpv.com/vas-diamond-rp...
Ethix hat - www.getfpv.com/ethix-snapback...
Ethix hoodie - www.getfpv.com/ethix-hoodie.h...
0:00 - intro
00:18 - SupaFly Syncmode V2
06:32 - FlyFishRC Volador
08:48 - ImpulseRC Apex Evo
09:38 - Vannystyle Vanny V2
10:42 - iFlight AOS 5 V5
11:34 - Ummagawd Demibot
12:32 - Team Maniacs Oily Rig
13:08 - Rotor Riot TANQ
14:48 - FAA Remote ID
16:13 - Battery Straps
16:44 - By The Numbers Weights
Hi Phantom! Really glad to see our frame among contenders and thank you for the complements about CNC and engineering along with some assembly difficulty feedback. I will make sure to communicate this with our guys.
I'll make a video tutorial, for free, if you send me a frame. Even if its just to borrow.
You’re very welcome. Really like the frame, I can tell you put some serious time into designing it. Bardwell actually recommended I put it in the lineup. Can’t wait to see the results! Thank you very much for watching and commenting.
Love my vx5
Quite difficult to put each frame through the same set of impacts but I do appreciate the real world testing because you cannot easily simulate the impact + rotation after impact of the structure on the bench. Ultimately, the survivability of the frame is related to how it dissipates the energy since we seldom crash in a dead stop. On another note, I'm quite perplexed at how a typical price for a 5" frames these days before tax and shipping is ~$90. I just released the 8mm Glide which generally targets high strength for it's low 115g weight but not specifically strength first. I would be interested to add it to this bunch but holy moly do you have a ton of work ahead of you... I'm intrigued and wish you the energy to keep going. Few realize how much work is involved with all this. It does seem like it'll be a very interesting content stream. Happy to introduce you to various sources to have components donated for the purpose of these videos in order to save on the cost you'll endure too. I'm sure many still think CZcams pays real money but it's really just a few pennies unfortunately. There's no bias in accepting free parts from manufacturers. You can badmouth whatever you like and they almost never care. I've done it for years but I also recognize when something is actually good.
Wow! Humbled @Kabab! I’ll certainly take you up on that offer because you’re 100% correct. It’s something I’ve always longed for in the community and could never find it so I figured, I’ll just do it for the community so it’s data others can benefit from including me. However, it’s going to be crazy time consuming and expensive. I’ll definitely take you up on that offer including adding yours to the bunch.
@@PhantomFPV I'm happy to send you some of my motors but I can't really afford like 50 motors. I would expect you would need 50 or maybe even more. If someone was paying to do this, at least we make a point to sell the bells as easily as we sell the motor itself but no matter what it's going to be expensive. I'll contact a couple people and see what I can get for you
@@Kabab that’s huge! I actually have on hand a large stash, but won’t say no. Be glad to give you all the prop ups too. Really grateful for your offer…thank you!
115g! I struggle to get my frames under 130g. I have a couple of frames I'm currently working on that I'd love to shed some weight. The frame already has your motors on it, if you wouldn't mind giving any feedback lol. So far, I'm impressed. Even after a couple of concrete walls, the motors still spin smoothly.
@@michaelwilson3946 much of it comes from experience of just dealing with loads of designs over years. The rest comes from a sort of intuition on how something will break and how you're using the carbon fiber material. There is a very pronounced grain to carbon fiber. Best to use it in ways to take advantage of that grain
My gosh if I had 200g to make a 5" frame it would have monstrous strength. I just looked at my 8mm Glide design and if I made the main plates 3mm thick it would only add 14g to the structure and bring the total weight to only 129g. I had no idea people were designing 200g frames. You really have your work cut out for you to get any of these to actually break. I would assume you'll likely demolish motors and cameras at a far higher pace than you will frames. At least go one frame at a time. When the frame breaks, just scoot the build over to the next frame. Replace busted parts along the way. This way you can also get a noise profile for each frame as you go because it's the exact same build from one to the next. This is often what I do when I test frames but I don't destroy anything. It's literally the same exact build lifted and plopped onto the next iteration of the design or even across designs. Super high strength is just not on my radar at all. High reliability is #1 to me followed by quality of life.
Yeah and on the other end of the spectrum the quadmula split mini comes in at 91 grams and I compare them to og apex in strength all day long.
Thanks so much for all that feedback @Kabab! Really appreciate you stopping by. I’m planning to test exactly as you’ve outlined. I also believe reliability over durability but this particular test is focused purely on frame durability. I already know my electronics are the most reliable in the biz😊😜 Hope you stick around for the other shows. Thanks so much!!!
@@PhantomFPV you have a video where you list components you prefer ?
I'm a simple man. I see Phantom's video - I hit like. Kind regards.
I love it!!! Thank you!
If you think that UK frame got to you fast, you should see Quadmula's shipping with DHL. I've ordered 6 frames from them, in Taiwan, and a few spare parts packages. Probably 9 or 10 total orders. They arrive in 2 or 3 business days every time! Not the most durable ever, but they are reasonably durable and they fly amazingly well! Great series, I'm really enjoying it!
Dang! Yeah, that’s come up a lot. They weren’t in stock or I’d have one. Maybe if you bought 5 instead of 6 I’d have one to test…hahahaha! Thanks so much.
Tip for the Syncmode, with O3 remember to print the "Forward" cam adapter so (if you fly Wide 4:3 like me) you won't have any prop in view, at least with 4934, with 5.1" you may still see the tips. You may not mind the props, but the less you have the better is for the audience😁. Also, if you want to save some weight, like me, don't print the Air Unit TPU, I prefer to attach it with double-sided tape and a zip tie (it holds really well). With Titanium screws I'm at 610ish Gr with GNB LIHV1100Mah and I run the Bando boots with motor protections. I look forward to hearing your take on this comparison, great idea!
Syncmode V2 at 192g...says 130g on the product page..lol.
Yeah I'm going to be the guy that points this out every episode..hahaha.
The most anticipated fpv series of 2024! Get it, bro! 💥🔥
Wooo!!! Haha. We’ll see once I get it assembled. It’ll be a little lighter because of all the extra hardware and things. Thanks so much!
I can’t wait for the durability testing!! TanQ all day durability all day
It’s right around the corner big dog! Stay fly.
This should be on Netflix so I can binge watch the whole series!
Haha! Awe yeah! I'mma ping you...need to get locked back in.
You should definitely add the Quadmula to the comparison
100% flies better then the other frames he's doing and takes the same abuse
Couldn’t find it in stock or would’ve certainly been in this series. Thanks y’all!!!
My dawg Heck yeah . Awesome video and great info on the frames. I’ll be getting my frame one day I’ll send it to ya for review homie🔥🤘🏻🚀
This is the most anticipated video series I've waited for ever. I definitely don't think you could do the wrestling voice the whole time but that part was definitely my favorite hahahah😂 keep at it bro I can't wait to see you bash these things
I do concur💯🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌
Hahaha!! Man, in both your honors Imma try!!! Thanks bros! Hope you both are doing well.
Glad to see you locking and loading again
Dang Dad! Not sure how I missed ya. Thank you and love y'all
Awesome video Phantom. Looking forward to the next one!
Thanks so much! I am too! Can’t wait to bring it to ya.
Hey Phantom the really tough frame I told you about at rapbage is this one: Bando V2 By MeeKaaH from Fusion Frame.
Thanks for doing this series!
UFC commentary it up 👊👊😎😂🤘🤘🤘
Haha! Just had to.
Excellent man! Thank you for this. 👍
So excited you got the flip switch....I just got one and you'll be suprised how light and durable it is!!! I'm liking that supafly syncmode 2....I think these are super cool videos bro....very educational for those choosing a frame!!!! Phantom for president 😂
Let's go!!! I can't wait!!
Yes sa!!! It’s getting started! Thanks so much Will!
Dude good call on the syncmode. I just got mine to California last week and the thing is a beeeauty.
Hell yeah Pirat Punch!
If you're going to continue doing this into and past May.. and you will be at rampage, I might have some extra frames to contribute to this.
Excited for this series! This is how you review frames. Others take note
Great video bro definitely enjoying the content.
Humbled and thank you! Hope you have a great weekend. Stay fly!
Thanks man for your work. Your a legend pilot and this video series is banger
Humbled and thank YOU! It’s about to turn up!
@@PhantomFPV Looking forward to it 👍
Sick episode bro. Glad you picked up the sync mode. Been looking at those frames.
Thanks RadBeard. Hope that other gear is holding up. Appreciate ya good buddy!
@@PhantomFPV by far the best flyers I have! Mucho appreciation on the rid module also something is better than nothing when you have to follow rules even though they are wrong.
Yer boiii this is heating up and loving the build up 🎤. Noticed the skids weren’t on the Apex in case you we’re including those on that frame bud? If any one’s gonna put them through their paces it’s gonna be you for sure
Love me some Phantom uploads man🤘❤
And I love you too! Thanks so much!
Awesome Bromie 🤙🏼
We getting some Chris!!! Thanks buddy.
love and appreciate so much your hardworks and all the money you have been spend to gave us for this review...wish all the best for you sir...
This is an awesome series. I fly the Demibot and flipswitch and curious to see what you think of em and how they stack up to the other frames. Please do some dive gaps as a test!!
I definitely plan too! Glad you’re digging. Thanks so much Deathdezine!
Syncmode is great, punch is a beast
We gonna find out. Thanks so much!
@@PhantomFPV no thank you sir
Nice initiative bro ! Can't wait to know the results!
If you have a few minutes to look at some other frames, in France we hace really nice designs like the Fusion F212 V2 or the Kraken geom Meteck .
(You're gonna end up testing 70+ frames 😆)
You’re very welcome! Haha! I think you’re right. I just might do that but know I won’t gettem all. Thanks so much my friend!
Personally really dig durability & flight characteristics of Hook V2 only downside for me is to fit the 03 with a 30 x 30 stack gotta flip 03 45 degrees, so u then only get access to usb port to get footy, sd slot is blocked by stand-off. U also wanna bind 03 before install or else u can’t get to bind button. ✌️volador II vx5 is pretty solid frame to bash also. Wouldn’t mind trying me a Vanny pro one day when they in stock
Finally some real world testing! Looking forward to this! I do wish you would weigh all the frames barebone like the Vanny V2, without tpu and battery strap. Even without the battery pad😊 But I don't expect you to rip off the battery pad for new weighing😉
Great job on the weigh in brother. Check out tinyleds for the best and cheapest straps. They have the best buckle that is completely solid and the Kevlar is top notch. I run the 250's they are the best I've found so far.
Imma look into those. Appreciate you DP. I’m hyped on bashing these things up. Thanks brotha man!
10 is a large testing sample but I was interested in the RVS Mopax. Looks super durable
May next time you do a durability test
I’ll look into that frame. 12 now haha. Thanks so much!
I have loved the sync mode cuz i usually use his presets but was afraid of the shipping situation so i never got one, glad to hear it went so well! I just got my first Triton cuz they are on sale and am super impressed with it! I think its design is a little more simple then an apex but is probably a little tougher, but it was on sale for $50 so i got one!
That flyfish frame is the hardest frame I’ve ever built. I broke an arm like the 3rd time I flew it. I didn’t even fix it.
Dang! Man I hope so. It’s crazy complicated haha. Appreciate ya Nappy!
Dang I have the og v1 dc 5 crashed a bunch not a flinch
Vegas bookies need to get in on this action 👍👍🇺🇸
Side note for Pirat frames, not a fan of torx screws so swapped em out for countersunk hexs
🔥🔥🔥
FLY MORE… REPAIR LESS… TanQ ;)
Good video. Keep em coming. :)
Haha! Love it! I'm confident you're frame is going to be in the top...it's a beast! Thanks buddy.
Nice dude, but missing the Quadmula frame
Yeah I want him to review the split mini
Yep, said it in other replies haha. Out of stock or we’d send it. @StR8KiLLA_FPV just for you I’ll do a separate test once they’re available again. Thanks!
@@PhantomFPV ups... don't see this... but looking forward to the next test.....
@phantomfpv you didn't have to add the flipswitch man. I would have sent you mine. I hope you didn't message me and I missed it. But I appreciate you taking the interest and time.
All good! I try to please the masses as best I can. Happy to do it and glad I got it. Let's see how they stack up now. Thanks so much Kenny!
No RID needed in NZ yet bro
Come for a thrash over here!!
Lucky you man! Yeah, pretty sure it’s here to stay in the US. I hope you’re well! Thanks P!
@@PhantomFPV Yeaa for now bro, looks like it could be a couple years away.
can’t wait for the rest of the series broski!
Maybe just one more lucky 11 the FPV Cycle Glide 8 just came out and it’s like 60 bucks or less I just got mine and I’d love to see you test it.
Yep, thinking this event will carry on beyond 10 haha. Thanks so much!
@@PhantomFPV yeah man for sure, thank you!! I think the whole community is very excited to see what you come up with… and that’s exactly what this is, it’s an event! ✌️
No dmr bandoslayer?
I missed that one. Can’t gettem all. Maybe next run. Thanks so much for the advice and support!
Bro try the quadmula split mini or split full size, the split mini comes in at 91 grams and takes all the same hits and more then the other frames mentioned.... just as durable and 100 grams less which means it also flies better then the rest with 1 bolt arm swaps and fits any vtx on the market. People need to stop sleeping on quadmula seriously
I tried to buy them but weren’t in stock anywhere. That’s mostly why I chose the frames I did. I’ll talk about it next installment. I’m also thinking about extending this to a larger test. Thanks big dawg!
@@PhantomFPV you gunna be at rampage this year homie? If so I got you with one
@@StR8KiLLA_FPV yes sa! Hope to see you there. We’ll work it out. Thanks man.
@@PhantomFPV I'm working the flight lines again so I'll Def see ya there bro and you won't be able to miss me or my quads out there this year lmao 🤣
@@StR8KiLLA_FPV hahaha! I’ll come find you. Looking forward to it bro! 🦄🦄🦄🔥🔥🔥
$90 dollars damn we can't get that down to ten bucks
Haha! I wish. About went broke doing this series. Thanks so much!
When do we say enough and stand our ground 🤔 class g should be fair game. Remote ID only in controlled airspace. We take a mile and give them an inch🤙for once
Yeah, I wish it were that easy. Our Gov is pretty powerful lol. I ain’t messing with that, not worth it. Thanks big dog! We’re still gonna find ways to send it.
Wheres the new lumenier Johnny frame?
Not a frame I’d consider basher but would be happy to add it to future tests. Fully understand others on my list aren’t either but have boasted as “strongest”, “durable” etc. Thanks so much!
This is good shit mofo! 🤘
Big dog! Thanks so much!
Flip switch in there ?
Nice my toughest frames are flyfish Volador flipswitch and source one v3
Sure is!
Don’t have the Source 1 but the V5 is stout!
@@PhantomFPV oh really nice I thought I heard differently. May have to pick one up once my v3 finally gives out. Either the frame for the HW stack I had in it for 3 years now lol
@@PhantomFPV can't wait for the testing series
Fix "weight in". More people might appreciate without a typo.
Haha! Geez. Not sure how I overlooked that. Thank you!