As a bike shop owner, I'm not telling anyone that brings a crank in that they are safe to ride. At best, I'll tell them it passes the Shimano test but that's it. I can't tell them they are safe or won't break - the situation is outrageous.
I had two ultegra cranksets and both got replaced to brand new ultegra crankarm with 11 speed chainring. Actually pretty happy with the results. I will continue to buy from shimano or SRAM, whichever is cheaper.
The problem with the recall is that Shimano is being a d!Ck about it. They require the techs/bikeshops to diagnose and submit a report that they are not trained to do before any sort of warranty claim can be entertained. The issue has been reported as early as 2019 and have been denying warranty claims. To say there are a lot of angry Shimano cranks users is an underestatement
I had a hollow tech crank break. So when I took it in I was disqualified as I had put on a non OEM chain ring (absolute black). So, make sure you remove any non shimano chainrings.
I got two ultegra cranksets, 175mm is too long for me so I brought a used 170mm ultegra. I found out about the recall while searching how to replace cranksets. So I brought them both to my local bike shop, turns out both are showing signs of delamination and I got two new FC-08 cranksets from Shimano, R8100 crankarm+11 speed chainring. It took 11 days and my bike shop switched my cranksets from 175 to 170 for free. I am actually pretty happy with the results. I am in Canada.
I have a snapped crank story. Long time ago when I was younger and fitter, I had a cheapo beach cruiser which I rode somewhat ironically as my commuter. Hefty steel thing with those weird steel cranks that are one piece. The company I worked for had the idea of a group ride - a little tour where we would ride out into the Shropshire hills and stay overnight in a hostel then ride back. Because I was pretty fit and most of the other people were not I decided to do it on my old beach cruiser clunker - I guess i was flexing (foreshadowing term). Being a single speed this bike meant that I did a lot of the climbing out of the saddle, lots of heavy cranking at low cadence. On the way back, during a gentle climb I think I was out of the saddle the right crank snapped. The part of the crank where the pedal threaded in wasnt any thicker than the rest of the crank and right there is where it broke off. If you snap a crank when youre pushing it hard - you go down hard. My right knee took the fall and looked like corned beef. One of the group called his wife and they all waited around and scraped me off the road and put me in a car to take me to Shrewsbury Royal. I got some sort of novel new membrane stuck over me knee to help it heal - which was weird. It weeped and stunk like death and during one dressing change it made a nurse gag from the smell alone. Im not sure that dressing was good for it or not. I was also worried that they might try to put maggots in the wound as that was the new thing back then. Anyway I recovered from it and that bike never saw the light of day again.
I'll be honest, I want more overrated or underrated. And would be interesting to see it go afield of Cycling/ sport more often. Get a rouge one in there each week. I feel Jimmy's opinion on something like baked beans will be incredibly entertaining
PON have no ownership in the Volkswagen group, they are simply their Dutch distributor. So while they own an immense amount of stuff (particularily in cycling), they are also a big distributor/importer/partner of a lot of brands in the Netherlands😮
Last time I updated the cockpit I bought a ~$12 stem on Amazon to “road test” the new position. I rode it for a month before I bought the “good” stem and then rode that for ~1 year before I finally cut the steerer to length. You can’t rush these things 😊
Cyclocross is so much safer than road racing. London League used to be so much fun, but kids got in the way. Hoping to try a couple later in the season.
I agree, I mainly only listen to 3 podcasts, the Wan Show from LTT and Waveform from MKBHD which are both tech podcasts. And Distractibles from Markiplier, Bob and Wade, which is more random ramblings. I think I've got a 4th one on the list now.
Schrödinger’s Crank. Yeah that would make me nervous. I don’t have an affected model but I know for sure I wouldn’t feel any better if a mechanic said “yeah that looks fine.” My chain snapped while bombing a hill in heavy traffic and that was probably the scariest thing that ever happened to me while riding. I slammed forward onto the top tube and barely managed to stabilize myself and find a spot to cruise into.
Ford tried that with the Pinto when they knew it would explode if rear ended hard enough and some people were killed. Because of their gross negligence, the judge ended up making them pay more than the recall would have cost.
I have one tool bag ready to go for all my bikes. I switch it over quickly. It even has a packing list which is a google doc to make sure I have everything I need.
The Shimano full-recall cost analysis is not that simple. If Shimano has to suddenly supply millions of new cranksets, this comes at the expense of being able to equip new complete bikes, which is their core business. A full recall would be devastating.
Ha, yes, completely agree. The quick back of envelope risk/cost analysis done in this video is overly simplistic and incomplete at best. I'd imagine recall cost implications to be significant and non-trivial. Also, regarding the separate issue of a class action suit, the costs, if successful could very well include compensatory and possibly punitive damages and ultimately be quite high!
How can you guys not know who Andrew Feather is? He's pretty much become a GCN presenter at this point. Holds more KOMs than anyone in the world. Top ten time climbing Alpe d'Huez. Super light, super strong. By the way, I'll take Feather for $1 on that hill climb. If there's someone not in the pro peloton who can beat him, I haven't heard of him. On the issue of the cranks, I think that lawsuit is the only fair solution for everyone, myself and my wife included. I've already had a set of their Ultegra cranks snap in half on the drive side while I was on a climb, and I was hurt, although not badly. Shimano replaced that set, but they replaced it with another set on the list. So now I have 3 sets of Ultegra cranks that are on the list, and the wife and I are now expected to ride these cranks until they finally fail? It's one thing for me to get hurt, but if the wife's cranks break and she's hurt, there will be hell to pay, forget about any monetary compensation. Shimano just needs to pony up and replace all potentially defective cranks. Period, end of story.
Feather might have his work cut out on the Struggle because it’s not that steep. His out of the saddle riding style doesn’t suit the climb profile as well as previous years, so riders like Ed Laverack have an advantage, purely down to how they like to climb.
@@LukeGJPotter If you have a CZcams channel about cycling that's based in the UK, I would think you'd watch the other top British cycling channels if for no other reason than to keep an eye on the competition. It just makes good sense. And while I don't watch nearly all of GCN's videos, and I hate climbing, I do like watching Feather race up a climb.
Freaking bike lights. I think I have 2 headlights on my bike, one on my helmet, at least 4 I can think of in the drawer. the damn clips either break or on a bike that gets stolen. Guess what I was shopping for yesterday? Yep, more helmet mount headlights.
Love the show, keep it up!Regarding gearing. I have a specialized diverge with Shimano GRX 11 speed Di2. I swapped out the rear cassette for an aftermarket eThirteen 9-46. This required a free hub body change. I have a 1x38 on the front to get the right gear range I needed for steep dirt hills here in California. The 9 tooth cog helps me hang with my road buddies on pavement. My legs do give out eventually if they go at it too long 😅I’ve taken this bike with me all over the world and love the range. That said … I still love dialing in just that right gear on my road bike which is a 2x11 36/52 11-34. Climb anything, still go fast. For all the abuse my Gravel bike goes through, love the 1 by.
I've got two bikes - 1 road and 1 mountain - with a full seatpack on each. Mostly because of the different wheel sizes. So, no need to swap. But I've only got 1 pump. It clamps on the road frame, and goes into my camelback when I hit the MTB trails.
I also have.a huge pile of stems, and it was worth acquiring them to see what fits. And I might end up needing one from my collection for a future project. And I can pass them on to others.
The team name you were struggling to remember, Francis, is TDT Unibet. And their three-part CZcams series on taking part in this year's Tour of Britain is very entertaining..
I have a 2023 Trek FX2 with 35mm tires plus bullhorn handlebars and a 2000 Giant Cypress (hybrid) with 2 inch mt bike tires on it. I like to keep saddlebags with tools/parts for each plus a mini pump clipped to the frame on each bike. Just grab and go. The tubes are different sizes so two separate bags is easier and I won't forget to transfer the pump if there's always one with each bike.
2 bikes. 1 Sram, 1 Campy. 2 saddle bags, 2 sets of contents. 1 pump with a mount on each bike. 2 Head units: Bolt on the Campy race bike. Edge 840S on the Sram endurance bike (ADHX). And I have almost two extra of every possible component for Campy, with about 10 extra tires and CO2's and tubes I will never use since going to tubeless. So many tools I have trouble finding the right one.
Shimano have a lot to answer for with the Hollowtech II cranks breaking. They've known about this for over decade. The suit is going to change the way this is going to handle the situation. What's going to hurt Shimano is the suits based on injuries which occurred when their cranks failed. This can go over a billion dollars.
All my bikes have different size tires, so the tool kit varies. Example my fixie needs a wheel nut wrench, and the tubes on my gravel bike are huge. When I grab a bike, nutrition, lights and a Garmin are all I need to go!
I have spares on all the bikes in the family. But not the pump, we only have 3 small pumps and one track pump in the house. Just tried CX and it is awesome, to save my tech and maximum fun I went single speed.
Not sure about your prediction with Andrew Feather at the Hill Climb champs. He's absolutely flying at the moment and has just missed the Ventoux KOM by only 26 seconds. A one hour effort. It's going to be an amazing battle, can't wait to see your coverage. Great show as always 👏
Yeah stuff that goes in the saddle bag.... Tubes on one bike, tubeless the other and different sizes to boot. Only one pump too 😞. Then there's food and water bottles to sort out. Waterproofs too. Lights. GPS. Tyre pressures... Sometimes takes me half an hour to get out the door!
On multiple sets of tools: My fast/gravelbike has it's own set of tools but my two commuting bikes share a toolset since I can only ride one at the time and they use the same set of bags.However, I've heard collegues talk about their bikes and they seem to have one set of tools per bike.
I’m generally“one per bike” person when it comes to spares. I don’t want to have to make sure I have everything for a specific bike before a ride. And the kits are slightly different for each, like a gravellero pump for my gravel bike and tattico for the road bike. Although I have a local banger bike which has no spares, as I only use it for local trips where I have to leave the bike in public for a long time.
Absolutely have a saddle / bar bag for each bike. As Francis says, all stocked up with everything. Same for Garmin mounts, GoPro mounts, light mounts etc.
I'm not a powerful rider and I got out of the saddle on a short climb and snapped my chain and crashed. I tore my hip-flexor so bad I couldn't ride for several weeks and it was at least two years before any pain subsided. I can imagine what it would be like to have a crank break under a hard sprint. I've not got one of the Shimano cranks affected but have several friends who do. I don't think I would trust one going forwards even if the inspection got an OK. All of them bound to fail in the fullness of time.
On the saddle bags matter. I have 2 bikes, but they are a but different. One is a rigid 16 years old MTB with 26" wheels, used mostly in the city. The other is a 4 year old 29" hardtail MTB, used mostly on trails. Mostly, as sometimes I change their usage just for the fun of it. But I have two saddle bags and 2 mini pumps and one that you have missed - 2 water bottles 😉, .. and 2 rear non rechargeable lighs. Except for the different spares (obviously) both bags have the same things inside - tire leavers, multi tool (same model), tire glue and patches. Both bikes share the same rechargeable front lights. One for the day (very small - 25gram) that makes me seen, the other for night (220gram powerhouse) that makes me see high beam (for trails) and low beam (for city riding). Why you say. Well moving the saddlebag is not an option because of the different size spares and always changing everything else from one to another was a fuss. Pumps are not the same so different clamps makes them non interchangeable. Water bottles - that's the interesting part you say - the 29er can fit a bigger bottle for when I'm outside of the city (900ml vs 550ml).
I have three bikes I ride regularly - a mountain bike, a gravel bike and a road bike made out of bamboo. Each have their own saddle bag with spares in mainly because no bike is tubeless so I have the right size innertube in the right saddle bag to fit the bike. One of the bike is 10 speed, two are 11 speed so I also need a different quick link for the chain. Having a saddle bag on each bike means they are ready to use and I can just grab one and go.....
Fit first buy later is great if you happen to live in a place rich with options, as individual bike shops tend to be pretty limited with their ranges, especially with shoes. And with shoes specifically, I've found that most issues come after a good length of time in the saddle, either due to the duration of pressure or changes in the range of motion over terrain and throughout a ride. There's no good solution for that IMO. I think more bike brands should introduce satisfaction guarantees, or like Fizik do with their test saddles, or even schemes where you can try-before-you-buy for a small fee which is then deducted from the purchase price if you choose to buy them
You are not the only ones. I have a toolkit (mini tool, patches, tubes, etc.) and pump for each regularly ridden bike (4 with tools 6 with pumps because two vintage ones have matching frame pumps but I haven't dedicated a tool kit to them) And I was super pissed last week when I took one of the vintage ones out, grabbed a pack off another, only to get a flat and realize that the tube in that bag didn't fit. Grrrr. That's why one per. No thinking. Always there.
On the subject of seat pouches, I've got two summer bikes which both have 50mm wheels with the same size tyres, so I use two tubes with 80mm valves. I share the same, velcro attach, pouch between them. My winter bike has got shallow rims on 28mm tyres, so it has it's own pouch which is the push on bracket type. My gravel bike has shallow rims, but with 45mm tyres, so has it's own velcro attach pouch with suitable tubes. I used to only have one pouch between them, and had to keep changing the tubes in it, to suit the bike I was riding.(and didn't always get it correct).My co2 pump and multi tool etc. sits in the seat tube bottle holder, in a used water bottle, which also matches my drinks bottle. p.s. I use some small dishwashing sponges to stuff in the tool bottle, to prevent any rattle.
I’ve never supported a particular team; I support individual riders. Don’t care about UAE but love Pog. Same for Ineos and Thomas and Alpecin and MvdP.
I’ve been cycling for years now without a saddle bag. I just throw everything in my jersey pockets. I would never buy multiple mini pumps for that reason. They never go on my frame. Trying to find the right stem length I can definitely relate to, though.
Guys, shoes definitely. I went through 3 pairs before I settled on the two that I currently use. All 5 purchased on eBay and returned 3 of them no issues with refund. The worst part of it was the time wasted. The best is a pair of LG course hrs300 new without box for $11. Unbelievable and they are truly amazing. I did my first 50m road go and when I was done I didn't even notice I was wearing shoes at all. They advertise on LG that they mold to you feet and they were absolutely correct! A lucky gain for me. But I did waste my time and others in the process. And it was worth it
Great stuff folks. I had my ultegra crank checked out at my local Shimano authorised dealership; no delamination but told to keep an eye on it.😂 marvellous!
I am a bag fan,bumbag,bar bag or Camelback. Depending what i am riding i will swap kit around. Two pumps though. Big one in Camelback for MTB and smaller one with C02 in bumbag,barbag for gravel or road. Great episode as usual guys!
saddle bags and pumps etc on every bike ! , each of my 6 bikes has its own pump and saddle bag, as bikes vary I need to carry different size tubes etc, even though I'm tubeless mostly I carry a tube etc , have road bikes x 2 , gravel bikes , both 650b and 700c wheel sizes , fat bike with 4 inch tyres ,and my plus bike running 27.5 3 inch rubber ... just easier to have their own spares and bags etc attached .. keep the show going fab to view 😁
One set of spares per bike (3 bikes). Before I did this I (very occasionally) forgot to move the seat pack over. And, when I was moving one pack around, I had to remember that one bike needed a different inner tube size so I needed to remember to repack the seat pack for that bike. Which I forgot once to my perril!
andrew feather has some of the best long climb times in the world, GCN had him on for alp du zwift and he didnt beat his best time but was still like top 20 in the world on the segment. Also true about the triathlon in terms of it being outrageously expensive, I get some entrance fees being higher because of the cost to put on that style of event, but ironmans being almost 1k for an entrance fee is dumb. Then to be competitive on the bike you have to spend at the minimum a few thousand. Tri suits are 3-400 to get a good one...
You should do an episode on the different types of cycle races. WTF is Cyclo Cross and Sportives? One serviceable bike but 5 different ruck sacks with all the spares like pumps, mini-tools, tubes and puncture kits.
Another great show, boys. I was thinking about Francis' comment about getting seriously injured at a critical time (descending, etc.). Would you not say that a tire failure is the most common type of failure or issue that you face on a bike? Would that not mean that a tire failing would be arguably more common than even a crank that the manufacturer has deemed potentially hazardous? If a tire unseats from a rim, or if you have a blowout while going 40mph, you're done either way. Shines a different light on the question of whether or not you'd still ride a bike with a recalled crankset.
If the crank fails while your riding & you end up getting hit by a car it will cost Shimano boat loads of money. I have one bike effected by this recall. This bike has been on trainer since the recall. My local shop has checked the crank they mentioned it's okay to ride. It's time for Shimano to step up and replace all the cranksets effected by this recall. My other bike has a Praxis crank/bottom bracket no issues to date with shifting or reliability. This will be my fix before next season if Shimano doesn't get this sorted out.
I have 4 bikes, there are some things I buy for each bike as I have forgotten to bring things with me, so to eliminate that, I put them on each bike, looking at you lights. Other items, like my tubeless kit, I put in my pocket.
I have one of these cranks which hasn't been used in a couple of years due to some health issues meaning my cycling has been conservative to say the least. In 2020 I put my record power through it of 1600w and I'm definitely on the heavy side. IT hasn't failed but I was battling with a clicking noise at the time. Best get it checked.
My LBS said its worth having your crank checked even if you think there's no current issue, so that they can report back to Shimano that your serial number has been checked should there be an issue in the future.
Regarding Nathans Question: I ride both, a GRX on my Gravel Bike and a Rival eTap on my Roadbike. Yes, eTap feels a lot more effortless, but I just LOVE the GRX brakes. The way you are able to modulate power is great on decents. I feel much saver than on my Roadbike. Brakes there are fine as well, but not as sensitive as the GRX ones.
My crankset is on the recall list. First it took 4 months to find one with 165mm crank arms, then another month to get left side power meter. If there is an issue then I’ll just dump it and move to SRAM Rival
Very nice podcast with interesting themes. My comment on triathlon: I remember the good times in the early 80s when triathlon was still a young sport in Germany, which immediately excited me. For a little bit more than 10 years I practiced this fantastic sport. In 1996 I give up Triathlon, because even then this sport took on such a commercial direction that I no longer liked. And I agree with you completely. Nowadays, only the well-heeled can afford this sport. Nowadays I only ride road and gravel bikes. That also works with less money.
On the discussion about team names and jerseys (again in the UK though) I feel like saint piran have nailed it... Black with the Cornish tartan, very few sponsors on the kit, a very clean look.
I have matching tool rolls on each bike with tools specifically for each (road and gravel) and it is now so much easier to just grab the bike and go out for a ride
Feel humorously self-conscious with the discussion around a saddle bag per bike. I feel I have done the exact same exercise of "oh, I need one for this bike because I don't want to swap to the other bike..." to the point that I must have bike #+1 saddle bag. And then got a top tube bag that replaced all of them. Thank goodness I haven't bought multiple top tube bags and just swap that one ... though truth be told, I could fill several of them with much of the same bits.
Shimano's DuraAce and Ultegra customers are the most upset by the replacement plan. They are offering modified 12-speed cranks as replacements which are not cosmetically matched to the originals. I have an affected DuraAce crank that I've fitted with a matching Quark power meter. Shimano's has no satisfactory replacement.
I have some spares that go in a wallet for my back pocket (dynaplugs, CO2, etc) and a saddle bag on each bike with spares specific for the bike (inner tubes, levers, etc), My mini pump goes in my back pocket.
I keep separate spares and tools on each of my bikes but each set is different to reflect the bike it goes with and the useage or abuse it will get (road bike, hardtail mountain bike and electric cargo bike). Bikes are my only transport, so I tend to ride more than one bike per day on multiple trips, so I can't be bothered to have to think about what to take with me.
I’m not rich by any means, but I have my accessories indeed as per the number of bikes I have. Three saddle bags, three pumps, three multitools. Mostly also because my bikes use different tires. I’m just not wanting to change a wider inner tube in my saddle bag once I go for a cyclocross outing. Much easier having a saddle bag ready to go.
I have different saddlebags for different bikes. The reason is because I see the usefulness of different tubes, cartridges, plugs, and pumps for different tires, and I don't want to be out on the road and only realize then that I grabbed the wrong things for the bike I am riding.
Ooooh... one per bike... yes I have each bike set up as a complete unit, each has a pump and the appropriate emergency kit. I want to grab my bike for the day and ride without faffing around checking if I have the right stuff on it.
i have a shimano ultegra crank that is one that is a recall. the day after the news came out i took my bike to a trek bike shop and they inspected the crank but did not find anything wrong. they still shipped it back to shimano and 2 weeks later shimano told me that I would get a brand new crank. one week later they shipped the new crank to the bike shop and it is a done deal. total time was 3 weeks. i will say that when i was riding the old crank i would here a small creak. the bike is creak free and looks brand new.
I have two affected cranks on my bikes, and both look fine to me (I used to be a bike mechanic). I bought my bikes in Denver CO (very dry), but now I have them in Guizhou China (very humid/rainy), so I’m curious how long until I have the corrosion issues…
Different seat bag for each bike, obviously. Different bikes require different spares and tools-consider tube sizes, whether CO2 versus mini-pump is appropriate, etc.
1:40 Fun fact: I had a guy fly past me while i going up Great Dun Fell a couple of weeks ago and I had no idea who it was until someone commented on my video that it was Andrew Feather! ‘No chance’ I thought, until I checked his Strava. Turns out it was him! No wonder he beat me. 😂
I so feel you guys :D... I have already collection of handlebars and stems to fit my bikes and collection of saddle bags and mini pumps and tools. I have 4 full sets for each of my 3 bikes and one for my wife :D. It is getting out of the hand rather quick :). BTW I have couple other items to add to the collection... Saddles, sunglasses and helmets
Just du clarify, as of my knowledge Pon Holdings does not own the VW (with Audi, Seat), they do Selling, Service and more for those brands in some regions like the Netherlands. Actually VW own 49% of BMS one of Pon Holdings companys.
Only about 25% of people would actually take their cranks in. Most recalls have very small participation. Meanwhile, I can't find a shop that actually knows what the recall requires. And, yes, I think about it every time I ride my Ultegra bike.
I've never had an issue with mechanical grx clogging up in very clay mud. It's all internal and outer cable the whole way so don't see how any mud would effect it anymore than electronic. especially as sram in known for not dealing well in prolonged wet weather
Yeah, I have a set of spares for each bike. Not matching, though. The newest (nicer) set of spares and tools goes on the bike I ride the most, and the spares that were on that bike (which were previously the newest, nicer spares) go to the second bike I ride the most and the cycle continues (no pun intended). Trickle down economy for bike tools and spares.
Long time ago before suspension on mtb had friend who did cycle trails he could run rings round most cyclists and was very quick on motocross bike cycle trail so underated makes me sad good show Emily ❤
I've got a separate set of spares for each bike, makes everything a bit easier in my opinion. To be fair, I only have three bikes, so it's not as if I have 20 mini pumps.
I absolutely have a full set of spares for each bike. Usually it’s the same saddle bag as well but I have different bits specific to each bike (ie mech hanger) in the right one so I would be lost if I kept switching. Plus different size inner tubes. I actually think it would be an anomaly to not have a set per bike.
"I despise the swimming part of Triathlon" :) That's your Guardian Angel stepping in Jimmy, Bull sharks can transition from sea water to fresh in the blink of an eye ! 🦈
I've not been affected directly by the Shimano crank recall. Yet. It's not the need for the recall itself, but Shimano's response to it, which means I'll buy another brand of groupset next time.
Guys, have you seen a GCN video about the bike of Andrew Feather? I wouldn't call it a normal bike at all... Normal bikes tend to have bar tape for example, just saying...
The first year I watched the Tour de France, I saw the old Garmin Cervelo team win the TTT and I was enamored of their argyle kit. Now that they're EF, I am not as much into it without the argyle pattern. Sad.
I’m like you guys I have 3 bikes and all have their own tools etc so I’m not changing over things all the time. Pod cast are great keep up the great work
Hope it stops raining in the office so that my boy doesn't have to wear a rain jacket indoors.
As a bike shop owner, I'm not telling anyone that brings a crank in that they are safe to ride. At best, I'll tell them it passes the Shimano test but that's it. I can't tell them they are safe or won't break - the situation is outrageous.
I had two ultegra cranksets and both got replaced to brand new ultegra crankarm with 11 speed chainring. Actually pretty happy with the results.
I will continue to buy from shimano or SRAM, whichever is cheaper.
I enjoy the cuts to producer Emily's 'this is fine' face whilst Jimmy and Francis cause 10 hours worth of editing for a single pod
The problem with the recall is that Shimano is being a d!Ck about it. They require the techs/bikeshops to diagnose and submit a report that they are not trained to do before any sort of warranty claim can be entertained. The issue has been reported as early as 2019 and have been denying warranty claims. To say there are a lot of angry Shimano cranks users is an underestatement
I had a hollow tech crank break. So when I took it in I was disqualified as I had put on a non OEM chain ring (absolute black). So, make sure you remove any non shimano chainrings.
I got two ultegra cranksets, 175mm is too long for me so I brought a used 170mm ultegra. I found out about the recall while searching how to replace cranksets.
So I brought them both to my local bike shop, turns out both are showing signs of delamination and I got two new FC-08 cranksets from Shimano, R8100 crankarm+11 speed chainring. It took 11 days and my bike shop switched my cranksets from 175 to 170 for free. I am actually pretty happy with the results. I am in Canada.
I have a snapped crank story. Long time ago when I was younger and fitter, I had a cheapo beach cruiser which I rode somewhat ironically as my commuter. Hefty steel thing with those weird steel cranks that are one piece. The company I worked for had the idea of a group ride - a little tour where we would ride out into the Shropshire hills and stay overnight in a hostel then ride back. Because I was pretty fit and most of the other people were not I decided to do it on my old beach cruiser clunker - I guess i was flexing (foreshadowing term). Being a single speed this bike meant that I did a lot of the climbing out of the saddle, lots of heavy cranking at low cadence. On the way back, during a gentle climb I think I was out of the saddle the right crank snapped. The part of the crank where the pedal threaded in wasnt any thicker than the rest of the crank and right there is where it broke off. If you snap a crank when youre pushing it hard - you go down hard. My right knee took the fall and looked like corned beef. One of the group called his wife and they all waited around and scraped me off the road and put me in a car to take me to Shrewsbury Royal. I got some sort of novel new membrane stuck over me knee to help it heal - which was weird. It weeped and stunk like death and during one dressing change it made a nurse gag from the smell alone. Im not sure that dressing was good for it or not. I was also worried that they might try to put maggots in the wound as that was the new thing back then. Anyway I recovered from it and that bike never saw the light of day again.
I'll be honest, I want more overrated or underrated. And would be interesting to see it go afield of Cycling/ sport more often. Get a rouge one in there each week. I feel Jimmy's opinion on something like baked beans will be incredibly entertaining
PON have no ownership in the Volkswagen group, they are simply their Dutch distributor. So while they own an immense amount of stuff (particularily in cycling), they are also a big distributor/importer/partner of a lot of brands in the Netherlands😮
Last time I updated the cockpit I bought a ~$12 stem on Amazon to “road test” the new position. I rode it for a month before I bought the “good” stem and then rode that for ~1 year before I finally cut the steerer to length. You can’t rush these things 😊
Cyclocross is so much safer than road racing. London League used to be so much fun, but kids got in the way. Hoping to try a couple later in the season.
There’s something about this podcast that makes it utterly addictive. Please keep it up!
Emily...
that's abit weird don't you think@@ianbarkham5080
I agree, I mainly only listen to 3 podcasts, the Wan Show from LTT and Waveform from MKBHD which are both tech podcasts. And Distractibles from Markiplier, Bob and Wade, which is more random ramblings.
I think I've got a 4th one on the list now.
I agree to I have to listen to their POD it’s awesome
Emily - I'm loving the way you're editing & producing the podcast now.
Schrödinger’s Crank. Yeah that would make me nervous. I don’t have an affected model but I know for sure I wouldn’t feel any better if a mechanic said “yeah that looks fine.”
My chain snapped while bombing a hill in heavy traffic and that was probably the scariest thing that ever happened to me while riding. I slammed forward onto the top tube and barely managed to stabilize myself and find a spot to cruise into.
Ford tried that with the Pinto when they knew it would explode if rear ended hard enough and some people were killed. Because of their gross negligence, the judge ended up making them pay more than the recall would have cost.
I have one tool bag ready to go for all my bikes. I switch it over quickly. It even has a packing list which is a google doc to make sure I have everything I need.
The Shimano full-recall cost analysis is not that simple. If Shimano has to suddenly supply millions of new cranksets, this comes at the expense of being able to equip new complete bikes, which is their core business. A full recall would be devastating.
Ha, yes, completely agree. The quick back of envelope risk/cost analysis done in this video is overly simplistic and incomplete at best. I'd imagine recall cost implications to be significant and non-trivial. Also, regarding the separate issue of a class action suit, the costs, if successful could very well include compensatory and possibly punitive damages and ultimately be quite high!
How can you guys not know who Andrew Feather is? He's pretty much become a GCN presenter at this point. Holds more KOMs than anyone in the world. Top ten time climbing Alpe d'Huez. Super light, super strong. By the way, I'll take Feather for $1 on that hill climb. If there's someone not in the pro peloton who can beat him, I haven't heard of him.
On the issue of the cranks, I think that lawsuit is the only fair solution for everyone, myself and my wife included. I've already had a set of their Ultegra cranks snap in half on the drive side while I was on a climb, and I was hurt, although not badly. Shimano replaced that set, but they replaced it with another set on the list. So now I have 3 sets of Ultegra cranks that are on the list, and the wife and I are now expected to ride these cranks until they finally fail? It's one thing for me to get hurt, but if the wife's cranks break and she's hurt, there will be hell to pay, forget about any monetary compensation. Shimano just needs to pony up and replace all potentially defective cranks. Period, end of story.
Feather might have his work cut out on the Struggle because it’s not that steep. His out of the saddle riding style doesn’t suit the climb profile as well as previous years, so riders like Ed Laverack have an advantage, purely down to how they like to climb.
Perhaps people have moved away from watching GCN?
I just have GCN+ for the Races. I'd rarely watch the Documentaries.
@@LukeGJPotter If you have a CZcams channel about cycling that's based in the UK, I would think you'd watch the other top British cycling channels if for no other reason than to keep an eye on the competition. It just makes good sense. And while I don't watch nearly all of GCN's videos, and I hate climbing, I do like watching Feather race up a climb.
@@rob-c. You're probably right, but I'd still put my $1 down on Feather.
Freaking bike lights. I think I have 2 headlights on my bike, one on my helmet, at least 4 I can think of in the drawer. the damn clips either break or on a bike that gets stolen. Guess what I was shopping for yesterday? Yep, more helmet mount headlights.
Love the show, keep it up!Regarding gearing. I have a specialized diverge with Shimano GRX 11 speed Di2.
I swapped out the rear cassette for an aftermarket eThirteen 9-46. This required a free hub body change. I have a 1x38 on the front to get the right gear range I needed for steep dirt hills here in California. The 9 tooth cog helps me hang with my road buddies on pavement. My legs do give out eventually if they go at it too long 😅I’ve taken this bike with me all over the world and love the range. That said … I still love dialing in just that right gear on my road bike which is a 2x11 36/52 11-34. Climb anything, still go fast. For all the abuse my Gravel bike goes through, love the 1 by.
Intelligent, well-informed commentary from everyone involved; including the producer Emily. Well done.
I've got two bikes - 1 road and 1 mountain - with a full seatpack on each. Mostly because of the different wheel sizes. So, no need to swap. But I've only got 1 pump. It clamps on the road frame, and goes into my camelback when I hit the MTB trails.
I also have.a huge pile of stems, and it was worth acquiring them to see what fits. And I might end up needing one from my collection for a future project. And I can pass them on to others.
Set of spares on each bike. And most of my customers also have it like that (those with multiple bikes)
The team name you were struggling to remember, Francis, is TDT Unibet. And their three-part CZcams series on taking part in this year's Tour of Britain is very entertaining..
I have a 2023 Trek FX2 with 35mm tires plus bullhorn handlebars and a 2000 Giant Cypress (hybrid) with 2 inch mt bike tires on it. I like to keep saddlebags with tools/parts for each plus a mini pump clipped to the frame on each bike. Just grab and go. The tubes are different sizes so two separate bags is easier and I won't forget to transfer the pump if there's always one with each bike.
2 bikes. 1 Sram, 1 Campy.
2 saddle bags, 2 sets of contents.
1 pump with a mount on each bike.
2 Head units: Bolt on the Campy race bike. Edge 840S on the Sram endurance bike (ADHX).
And I have almost two extra of every possible component for Campy, with about 10 extra tires and CO2's and tubes I will never use since going to tubeless. So many tools I have trouble finding the right one.
Shimano have a lot to answer for with the Hollowtech II cranks breaking. They've known about this for over decade. The suit is going to change the way this is going to handle the situation.
What's going to hurt Shimano is the suits based on injuries which occurred when their cranks failed. This can go over a billion dollars.
Why change their manufacturing process.😕
All my bikes have different size tires, so the tool kit varies. Example my fixie needs a wheel nut wrench, and the tubes on my gravel bike are huge. When I grab a bike, nutrition, lights and a Garmin are all I need to go!
I have spares on all the bikes in the family. But not the pump, we only have 3 small pumps and one track pump in the house.
Just tried CX and it is awesome, to save my tech and maximum fun I went single speed.
Not sure about your prediction with Andrew Feather at the Hill Climb champs. He's absolutely flying at the moment and has just missed the Ventoux KOM by only 26 seconds. A one hour effort.
It's going to be an amazing battle, can't wait to see your coverage.
Great show as always 👏
Yeah stuff that goes in the saddle bag.... Tubes on one bike, tubeless the other and different sizes to boot. Only one pump too 😞. Then there's food and water bottles to sort out. Waterproofs too. Lights. GPS. Tyre pressures... Sometimes takes me half an hour to get out the door!
On multiple sets of tools: My fast/gravelbike has it's own set of tools but my two commuting bikes share a toolset since I can only ride one at the time and they use the same set of bags.However, I've heard collegues talk about their bikes and they seem to have one set of tools per bike.
I’m generally“one per bike” person when it comes to spares. I don’t want to have to make sure I have everything for a specific bike before a ride. And the kits are slightly different for each, like a gravellero pump for my gravel bike and tattico for the road bike.
Although I have a local banger bike which has no spares, as I only use it for local trips where I have to leave the bike in public for a long time.
Absolutely have a saddle / bar bag for each bike. As Francis says, all stocked up with everything. Same for Garmin mounts, GoPro mounts, light mounts etc.
I'm not a powerful rider and I got out of the saddle on a short climb and snapped my chain and crashed. I tore my hip-flexor so bad I couldn't ride for several weeks and it was at least two years before any pain subsided. I can imagine what it would be like to have a crank break under a hard sprint. I've not got one of the Shimano cranks affected but have several friends who do. I don't think I would trust one going forwards even if the inspection got an OK. All of them bound to fail in the fullness of time.
On the saddle bags matter. I have 2 bikes, but they are a but different. One is a rigid 16 years old MTB with 26" wheels, used mostly in the city. The other is a 4 year old 29" hardtail MTB, used mostly on trails. Mostly, as sometimes I change their usage just for the fun of it. But I have two saddle bags and 2 mini pumps and one that you have missed - 2 water bottles 😉, .. and 2 rear non rechargeable lighs.
Except for the different spares (obviously) both bags have the same things inside - tire leavers, multi tool (same model), tire glue and patches. Both bikes share the same rechargeable front lights. One for the day (very small - 25gram) that makes me seen, the other for night (220gram powerhouse) that makes me see high beam (for trails) and low beam (for city riding).
Why you say. Well moving the saddlebag is not an option because of the different size spares and always changing everything else from one to another was a fuss. Pumps are not the same so different clamps makes them non interchangeable. Water bottles - that's the interesting part you say - the 29er can fit a bigger bottle for when I'm outside of the city (900ml vs 550ml).
I have three bikes I ride regularly - a mountain bike, a gravel bike and a road bike made out of bamboo. Each have their own saddle bag with spares in mainly because no bike is tubeless so I have the right size innertube in the right saddle bag to fit the bike. One of the bike is 10 speed, two are 11 speed so I also need a different quick link for the chain. Having a saddle bag on each bike means they are ready to use and I can just grab one and go.....
Fit first buy later is great if you happen to live in a place rich with options, as individual bike shops tend to be pretty limited with their ranges, especially with shoes. And with shoes specifically, I've found that most issues come after a good length of time in the saddle, either due to the duration of pressure or changes in the range of motion over terrain and throughout a ride. There's no good solution for that IMO. I think more bike brands should introduce satisfaction guarantees, or like Fizik do with their test saddles, or even schemes where you can try-before-you-buy for a small fee which is then deducted from the purchase price if you choose to buy them
You are not the only ones. I have a toolkit (mini tool, patches, tubes, etc.) and pump for each regularly ridden bike (4 with tools 6 with pumps because two vintage ones have matching frame pumps but I haven't dedicated a tool kit to them) And I was super pissed last week when I took one of the vintage ones out, grabbed a pack off another, only to get a flat and realize that the tube in that bag didn't fit. Grrrr. That's why one per. No thinking. Always there.
On the subject of seat pouches, I've got two summer bikes which both have 50mm wheels with the same size tyres, so I use two tubes with 80mm valves. I share the same, velcro attach, pouch between them. My winter bike has got shallow rims on 28mm tyres, so it has it's own pouch which is the push on bracket type. My gravel bike has shallow rims, but with 45mm tyres, so has it's own velcro attach pouch with suitable tubes. I used to only have one pouch between them, and had to keep changing the tubes in it, to suit the bike I was riding.(and didn't always get it correct).My co2 pump and multi tool etc. sits in the seat tube bottle holder, in a used water bottle, which also matches my drinks bottle. p.s. I use some small dishwashing sponges to stuff in the tool bottle, to prevent any rattle.
I’ve never supported a particular team; I support individual riders. Don’t care about UAE but love Pog. Same for Ineos and Thomas and Alpecin and MvdP.
I’ve been cycling for years now without a saddle bag. I just throw everything in my jersey pockets. I would never buy multiple mini pumps for that reason. They never go on my frame. Trying to find the right stem length I can definitely relate to, though.
All my bikes have their own bags filled with the proper tools and spares specific to each bike and the same pump on all of them.
I have 6 bikes.
Guys, shoes definitely. I went through 3 pairs before I settled on the two that I currently use. All 5 purchased on eBay and returned 3 of them no issues with refund. The worst part of it was the time wasted. The best is a pair of LG course hrs300 new without box for $11. Unbelievable and they are truly amazing. I did my first 50m road go and when I was done I didn't even notice I was wearing shoes at all. They advertise on LG that they mold to you feet and they were absolutely correct! A lucky gain for me. But I did waste my time and others in the process. And it was worth it
Great stuff folks. I had my ultegra crank checked out at my local Shimano authorised dealership; no delamination but told to keep an eye on it.😂 marvellous!
I had multiple saddle bags, pumps, lights. Then when TPU tubes came along I switched to just putting everything in a pouch that goes in my pocket.
I am a bag fan,bumbag,bar bag or Camelback.
Depending what i am riding i will swap kit around.
Two pumps though.
Big one in Camelback for MTB and smaller one with C02 in bumbag,barbag for gravel or road.
Great episode as usual guys!
Guys, Andrew Feather well well known from GCN!
saddle bags and pumps etc on every bike ! , each of my 6 bikes has its own pump and saddle bag, as bikes vary I need to carry different size tubes etc, even though I'm tubeless mostly I carry a tube etc , have road bikes x 2 , gravel bikes , both 650b and 700c wheel sizes , fat bike with 4 inch tyres ,and my plus bike running 27.5 3 inch rubber ... just easier to have their own spares and bags etc attached .. keep the show going fab to view 😁
One set of spares per bike (3 bikes). Before I did this I (very occasionally) forgot to move the seat pack over. And, when I was moving one pack around, I had to remember that one bike needed a different inner tube size so I needed to remember to repack the seat pack for that bike. Which I forgot once to my perril!
andrew feather has some of the best long climb times in the world, GCN had him on for alp du zwift and he didnt beat his best time but was still like top 20 in the world on the segment. Also true about the triathlon in terms of it being outrageously expensive, I get some entrance fees being higher because of the cost to put on that style of event, but ironmans being almost 1k for an entrance fee is dumb. Then to be competitive on the bike you have to spend at the minimum a few thousand. Tri suits are 3-400 to get a good one...
You should do an episode on the different types of cycle races. WTF is Cyclo Cross and Sportives?
One serviceable bike but 5 different ruck sacks with all the spares like pumps, mini-tools, tubes and puncture kits.
Another great show, boys. I was thinking about Francis' comment about getting seriously injured at a critical time (descending, etc.). Would you not say that a tire failure is the most common type of failure or issue that you face on a bike? Would that not mean that a tire failing would be arguably more common than even a crank that the manufacturer has deemed potentially hazardous? If a tire unseats from a rim, or if you have a blowout while going 40mph, you're done either way. Shines a different light on the question of whether or not you'd still ride a bike with a recalled crankset.
If the crank fails while your riding & you end up getting hit by a car it will cost Shimano boat loads of money. I have one bike effected by this recall. This bike has been on trainer since the recall. My local shop has checked the crank they mentioned it's okay to ride. It's time for Shimano to step up and replace all the cranksets effected by this recall. My other bike has a Praxis crank/bottom bracket no issues to date with shifting or reliability. This will be my fix before next season if Shimano doesn't get this sorted out.
absolutely right on costing boatloads of money. Not just on the direct liability either - it would absolutely ruin their brand.
Set of spares for every bike. Bikepacking specific clothes, shoes and clothes specific for trainer and each bike. Etc.
I have 4 bikes, there are some things I buy for each bike as I have forgotten to bring things with me, so to eliminate that, I put them on each bike, looking at you lights. Other items, like my tubeless kit, I put in my pocket.
I have one of these cranks which hasn't been used in a couple of years due to some health issues meaning my cycling has been conservative to say the least. In 2020 I put my record power through it of 1600w and I'm definitely on the heavy side. IT hasn't failed but I was battling with a clicking noise at the time. Best get it checked.
My LBS said its worth having your crank checked even if you think there's no current issue, so that they can report back to Shimano that your serial number has been checked should there be an issue in the future.
When is Emily releasing the Blooper reel of all the edits?
On the 2 summer bikes & 2 winter bikes I have individual saddle bags & tools & inner tubes with different length valves due to rim depth.
Regarding Nathans Question: I ride both, a GRX on my Gravel Bike and a Rival eTap on my Roadbike. Yes, eTap feels a lot more effortless, but I just LOVE the GRX brakes. The way you are able to modulate power is great on decents. I feel much saver than on my Roadbike. Brakes there are fine as well, but not as sensitive as the GRX ones.
My crankset is on the recall list. First it took 4 months to find one with 165mm crank arms, then another month to get left side power meter. If there is an issue then I’ll just dump it and move to SRAM Rival
Very nice podcast with interesting themes. My comment on triathlon: I remember the good times in the early 80s when triathlon was still a young sport in Germany, which immediately excited me. For a little bit more than 10 years I practiced this fantastic sport. In 1996 I give up Triathlon, because even then this sport took on such a commercial direction that I no longer liked. And I agree with you completely. Nowadays, only the well-heeled can afford this sport. Nowadays I only ride road and gravel bikes. That also works with less money.
Cannondale absolutely sells rim brake bikes, they have three models on their US website as of today.
I do the same thing! All the same lights and accessories for all my bike. its actually quite dumb since my light has a quick release XD
On the discussion about team names and jerseys (again in the UK though) I feel like saint piran have nailed it... Black with the Cornish tartan, very few sponsors on the kit, a very clean look.
I have matching tool rolls on each bike with tools specifically for each (road and gravel) and it is now so much easier to just grab the bike and go out for a ride
Feel humorously self-conscious with the discussion around a saddle bag per bike. I feel I have done the exact same exercise of "oh, I need one for this bike because I don't want to swap to the other bike..." to the point that I must have bike #+1 saddle bag. And then got a top tube bag that replaced all of them. Thank goodness I haven't bought multiple top tube bags and just swap that one ... though truth be told, I could fill several of them with much of the same bits.
Love what you did there with Lisa-bike @ 22:31
Shimano's DuraAce and Ultegra customers are the most upset by the replacement plan. They are offering modified 12-speed cranks as replacements which are not cosmetically matched to the originals. I have an affected DuraAce crank that I've fitted with a matching Quark power meter. Shimano's has no satisfactory replacement.
I have some spares that go in a wallet for my back pocket (dynaplugs, CO2, etc) and a saddle bag on each bike with spares specific for the bike (inner tubes, levers, etc), My mini pump goes in my back pocket.
I keep separate spares and tools on each of my bikes but each set is different to reflect the bike it goes with and the useage or abuse it will get (road bike, hardtail mountain bike and electric cargo bike). Bikes are my only transport, so I tend to ride more than one bike per day on multiple trips, so I can't be bothered to have to think about what to take with me.
I’m not rich by any means, but I have my accessories indeed as per the number of bikes I have. Three saddle bags, three pumps, three multitools. Mostly also because my bikes use different tires. I’m just not wanting to change a wider inner tube in my saddle bag once I go for a cyclocross outing. Much easier having a saddle bag ready to go.
I have different saddlebags for different bikes. The reason is because I see the usefulness of different tubes, cartridges, plugs, and pumps for different tires, and I don't want to be out on the road and only realize then that I grabbed the wrong things for the bike I am riding.
Ooooh... one per bike... yes I have each bike set up as a complete unit, each has a pump and the appropriate emergency kit. I want to grab my bike for the day and ride without faffing around checking if I have the right stuff on it.
i have a shimano ultegra crank that is one that is a recall. the day after the news came out i took my bike to a trek bike shop and they inspected the crank but did not find anything wrong. they still shipped it back to shimano and 2 weeks later shimano told me that I would get a brand new crank. one week later they shipped the new crank to the bike shop and it is a done deal. total time was 3 weeks. i will say that when i was riding the old crank i would here a small creak. the bike is creak free and looks brand new.
3 Shimano Service Centres in Newcastle. My crank is with one of them!
I have two affected cranks on my bikes, and both look fine to me (I used to be a bike mechanic).
I bought my bikes in Denver CO (very dry), but now I have them in Guizhou China (very humid/rainy), so I’m curious how long until I have the corrosion issues…
Different seat bag for each bike, obviously. Different bikes require different spares and tools-consider tube sizes, whether CO2 versus mini-pump is appropriate, etc.
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Fun fact: I had a guy fly past me while i going up Great Dun Fell a couple of weeks ago and I had no idea who it was until someone commented on my video that it was Andrew Feather!
‘No chance’ I thought, until I checked his Strava. Turns out it was him! No wonder he beat me. 😂
I so feel you guys :D... I have already collection of handlebars and stems to fit my bikes and collection of saddle bags and mini pumps and tools. I have 4 full sets for each of my 3 bikes and one for my wife :D. It is getting out of the hand rather quick :). BTW I have couple other items to add to the collection... Saddles, sunglasses and helmets
Just du clarify, as of my knowledge Pon Holdings does not own the VW (with Audi, Seat), they do Selling, Service and more for those brands in some regions like the Netherlands. Actually VW own 49% of BMS one of Pon Holdings companys.
Only about 25% of people would actually take their cranks in. Most recalls have very small participation.
Meanwhile, I can't find a shop that actually knows what the recall requires. And, yes, I think about it every time I ride my Ultegra bike.
Great job jimmy on the math! Speaking as a commercial banker! Cheers! ❤❤❤ make my heart warm lol
Got loads of bike, each ready to go with full bottle/s added. Don't carry tools/pump with singlespeed but do with everything else.
one set of spares, changeable between bikes, now so quick it's like and F1 wheel change!
I'm as sorry as I can be in this, but you now are now officially on the show, Emily!
Wait.... ALLL hollowtech cranks??? Even sora ones? Would explain the creaking
I've never had an issue with mechanical grx clogging up in very clay mud. It's all internal and outer cable the whole way so don't see how any mud would effect it anymore than electronic. especially as sram in known for not dealing well in prolonged wet weather
Yeah, I have a set of spares for each bike. Not matching, though.
The newest (nicer) set of spares and tools goes on the bike I ride the most, and the spares that were on that bike (which were previously the newest, nicer spares) go to the second bike I ride the most and the cycle continues (no pun intended).
Trickle down economy for bike tools and spares.
Long time ago before suspension on mtb had friend who did cycle trails he could run rings round most cyclists and was very quick on motocross bike cycle trail so underated makes me sad good show Emily ❤
Tinkering is so much fun! I love it!
I've got a separate set of spares for each bike, makes everything a bit easier in my opinion. To be fair, I only have three bikes, so it's not as if I have 20 mini pumps.
I absolutely have a full set of spares for each bike. Usually it’s the same saddle bag as well but I have different bits specific to each bike (ie mech hanger) in the right one so I would be lost if I kept switching. Plus different size inner tubes. I actually think it would be an anomaly to not have a set per bike.
"I despise the swimming part of Triathlon" :)
That's your Guardian Angel stepping in Jimmy, Bull sharks can transition from sea water to fresh in the blink of an eye ! 🦈
I've not been affected directly by the Shimano crank recall. Yet. It's not the need for the recall itself, but Shimano's response to it, which means I'll buy another brand of groupset next time.
Guys, have you seen a GCN video about the bike of Andrew Feather? I wouldn't call it a normal bike at all... Normal bikes tend to have bar tape for example, just saying...
The first year I watched the Tour de France, I saw the old Garmin Cervelo team win the TTT and I was enamored of their argyle kit. Now that they're EF, I am not as much into it without the argyle pattern. Sad.
See you up the Struggle again (no 'heaviest bike' for me this year, not even considering entering as I'm slow lol)
I’m like you guys I have 3 bikes and all have their own tools etc so I’m not changing over things all the time. Pod cast are great keep up the great work
Get the cranks rayed first to see what it’s like then take it in for checking and see what happens.