Why Pros Use Camerupt in Gen 3 OU.
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- Pokemon Gen 3 Competitive Singles is a great format where unique strategies always seem to pop up in tournaments. Camerupt is terrible in almost every Generation, but in Gen 3 it's Fire/Ground typing provides valuable immunities to Electric and Burn, while also being Neutral to Ice and Grass, unlike any other Ground type. This unique set of traits means Camerupt is an excellent check to Zapdos, Jolteon and Gengar, and provides Offensive pressure too thanks to Fire/Grass coverage and Explosion.
I am not talking about Mega Camerupt, rather, I'm talking about regular Camerupt. Mega-Camerupt isn't involved.
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And also this Camerupt team by Callous himself:
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Camarupt needs a 3rd stage evolution, what do you think of turning him from a slow mixed attacker into a special atacker with a lot more special def and hp, and make him hella slow with trick room, or give him a signature move, Ekrixi/Pele pele (greek/hawaiian for eruption) a ground type special move when used after the opponent attacks, and if that attack can knock out Camerupt+ it lets you survive the blow with 1 hp, its hidden effect gives your explosion a priority level lower than extreme speed, plus lowers your opponent's def just like the good old days.
Great Neck would never work for Iron Mugulis. I'm sorry but this is pure conjecture and I won't believe it. He is a pillar of our community, sticking out his Great Neck for all those in need.
Perhaps not willingly, when hostages are involved however…
That's because Iron Mugulis is helding hostage Great Neck's good acquaintance, *Great Head*
He once used his extensive throat, his gigantic jugular, his wondrous windpipe, to act as a whistleblower even! Hes the hero we truly deserve!
He hid a recording device within his neckscarf hair
@@massimilianodelrosso5495”great head” 😭
Yes, that is how you should think. Do not worry about Great Neck, and do not observe them, whatever they are up to, it is all in the service of Iron Mug- the greater good, yes.
One thing I really like about ADV OU is that LITERALLY EVERYTHING has a niche, please make more videos like this and your “weirdest strategies”video, they’re so fun to watch
Nearly every pokemon with a unique skill set is has a niche.
Metapod’s niche?
No
Yeah, I feel that way too. It's really nice to see it and I feel like it's such a shame that as things have progressed gamefreak have simply let some older mons fall by the wayside and become invalidated by newer inclusions. I personally love Lanturn, and that Lanturn has a niche in ADV OU, but i can't lie the existence of Rotom-W does basically mean Lanturn has nothing going for it in OU anymore.
@@jwpppr lantern would have been wonderful in Gen9 as a dondozo counter.
I'm so used to Tera saving so many things I half expected you to say "but it can change its typing to water, thanks to Terastillization" even though it's about gen 3 😂
I hear you lmao too funny 😅
Camerupt also switches into Moltres very nicely. Moltres typically runs Fire & Grass coverage alongside Will-o-Wisp, none of which do all that much to Camerupt. Hitting Salamence and Flygon on the switch with HP Ice is also a lot of fun.
I tend to like toxic or hp grass myself. Sure you can just explode on the water types, but I just like it as an option ^-^
I don't see how camerupt threatens moltres outside of toxic or boom. How much does camerupt take from fireblast? I'd assume it's around a 30%
@@hiei49 That depends heavily on its EV spread, but Camerupt can run Rock Slide if you really need a Moltres answer.
@@SkorpTS Oh, i forgot about rock slide. I was thinking on hp rock lol
@@hiei49 HP Rock is 100% accurate though and still physical in Gen 3. Something to consider but 90% is still quite reliable.
Where is our Camerupt paradox form Iron Furnace ?
Blazikens paradox form, Great Cock.
Iron fornuce would be a steel/fire type id prob be UU but could still be used in OU
Iron furnace from nomifactory!!!!!!!!!!!!
The box around Great Neck having the poorly drawn bump on top sent me into a spiral
Also it's head being out of sight next to iron mugulis lol
I would also like to point out Camerupt's front sprite in gen 3 makes them look smug as hell. Like they know your team isn't prepared for a Camerupt and they're takening advantage of it
Camerupt is a victim of the type-based physical/special designation from gen 3. It could have been given better bulk in place of 100 attack, but it needed to have similar attacking stats to make use of its fire and ground stab. Obviously camerupt has other weaknesses, but this is one that stands out to me as being more of a game design problem.
While it is unfortunate, I'm not 100% sure that the type-based split was a bad thing.
Your gen 3 niche videos are some of my favorite you put out :)
While I have never played Gen 3 OU, you have given me an immense appreciation for it through your content. thank u jimothy
Please discuss the newly discovered future paradox Pokemon iron deficieny, apparently it’s been wreaking havoc recently 😱
Im slightly confused can you use different language? Wreaking Havoc is the new Entei form.
holy shit this made me laugh
Damn Terrakion fell off
One thing that you missed is that Camerupt also switches into Lickitung very nicely, as long as Lickitung isn’t running surf! Being able to check such a meta defining threat gives Camerupt a really useful role in OU!
I love how Great Neck deforms the bordering box around it at 1:13 lol
i love listening to jimothycool talk about gen3 ou, a format that he really loves. his joy comes through the videos!!! great work brother!
It’s funny, because in Gen 7 OU Mega Camerupt is quite good as an anti-meta pick thanks to that Fire/Ground typing’s unique defensive traits as well.
It’s a good check to many Tapu Koko and Mega Mawile variants and a lot of Magearna variants, and can even pressure other defensive mons like Mantine with Nature Power in Electric Terrain. It obviously faces tons of competition because it takes up your Mega slot and it isn’t extraordinarily bulky, but that weird typing has some *serious* merit to it.
I have 2 video ideas that at least im curious to hear
1) Dedicated rain teams in adv ou (not just ttar removal to set up rain dance for resets)
2) Viability of digglet/trapinch teams
2) Would be a Little Cup or NU topic. Dugtrio is weak as is and a big investment of a team slot; Digglet compounds the weaknesses while not offering enough in return---in theory, at least. Trapinch is frail and slower than even Blissey.
1) Extremely underexplored, almost a non-existent team archetype. Most people stop at just Rain Dance Kingdra. I made one myself and I can tell you they are definitely viable, but it requires less brainpower to just load up a sand team instead.
Camerupt is extremely underrated. It's an incredible in-game fire type in the Hoenn games, strong against the Elite 4, and stomps most of Steven's team.
In Gen IV, Camerupt gained the ability solid rock, giving it a bit more leeway against opposing ground types. When your competition is the excellent Hippowdon, Gliscor, Swampert, Mamoswine, and Heatran, Camerupt couldn't hope to compete. It's mega only doubled down on its weaknesses while boosting its offense.
Mega Camerupt at least goes really hard in trick room teams. Not the best mega by any means, but it's a good niche, especially in VGC.
@@limon16025Megarupt is good on trick room. It’s weaknesses to surf, EQ, and neutrality to rock slide make it a rather difficult Pokémon to keep on the field. Torkoal is a bit better thanks to its better distributed bulk, ability to provide sun support to weaken water moves, and providing similar utility in yawn and lava plume.
@@limon16025 Mega Camel even had a niche outside of Trick Room as an offensive SR setter/wallbreaker in gen 7. Tapu Koko was everywhere and Camel is one of the few things that could take its STAB combo, be immune to Volt Switch, and threaten whatever they switched into. Pairing it with Bulu for Terrain recovery and reducing opposing EQ damage was good, too.
Obviously, Heatran could do similar things more consistently but Camel was more fun and the wallbreaking was much better since both Fire Blast and Earth Power are STAB and Sheer Force boosted.
Absolutely love this thing, been trying to make it work in gen 9 VGC but as of yet it's not quite happening
Try the torkoal meme. Fast "after you" user that lets max spa camerupt use eruption before everyone on the field. Get free forfeits.
@@sylvael2889 this is actually a great idea lool
now that's a camel
“Risk-free progress making moves” is a really good way of describing the later gens, and as a newgens player trying to learn oldgens I’ve found that one of the biggest challenges to adapt to is how to make progress without them
Even just playing lower tiers where you can't use H-Samurott with the funny spikes move feels like playing an old gen
Just use yama lmao
Okay, seriously, this team has me tempted to try gen 3. Looks so sick.
Great neck peaking out of the box is divine
I’m holding out hope that future paradox form of Cobalion, Iron Brian, will rise to oppose the likes of Great Neck and Iron Mugulis
Iron Brian has me creasing 😂
ima big fan of camerupt myself, didnt know it was any good in a tier, cool to hear.
Love this video on the world's favorite volcano camel.
I've been playing some ADV ubers at your reccomendation and the victreebell groudon sample team on the forums is so much fun to play. SD victreebell ohkoing legendaries is a thing of beauty
hidden power is certainly a move of all time
Thank you very much for the mention of Callous Invitational. As a casual viewer of competitive pokemon Gen 3 OU is my favorite tier but i really only know BKC and his discussion videos over the tier. Very happy to have found thsi channel!!
I’ve heard that there is a town named after the new paradox raikou on Long Island. It’s very close to the photo of them with the one and only iron mugulis.
I like when Camerupt said: "It's Camel time" and used his camel qualites to defeat Zapdos
*Camelin'time
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Man, this is so cool! I was playing SV Monotype Fire, and was thinking of running Camerupt, but it was just struggling to hard to be useful…
But man, I think I might go back to ADV OU. It just looks so much more diverse and interesting. Thanks for making these videos!
Great Neck being cut off standing with Iron Mugulis is too good
I’m sure people would love DPP UU too… that is one of the most beautiful tiers out there… u could run almost any random set and it would do something
Great Neck is crazy 😂😭
Time for some Camerupt gaming on the ladder
Not exactly a niche pick, but I have tried out a funky Skarmory set with toxic, protect, fly, and either spikes or counter and it’s been pretty funny to rack up a lot of residual damage quickly with the bird
Great video but you forgot to mention one of Camerupt’s most valuable assets, a nice shiny form.
Zapdos: WHY CAN'T I BEAT YOU???
Camerupt: IDK man, maybe skill issue?
I can’t believe that IRON MUGULIS is so conniving that even the new paradoxes aren’t safe
I love these videos on niche Pokémon thriving in different meta games. Keep ‘em coming!
Love your gen 3 OU videos. keep it up and see you on the ladder. ❤
Thank you for the pokepaste Mr. Cool. Finally trying this format and its super fun!
Porygon2 was the epitome of "No, you're trapped here with ME"
Gen III OU and Gen IV UU are the tiers where it seems like everything can be viable.
I can't wait to get more Great Neck deep lore
Your series on gen 3 has made me try it and I have to say I've enjoyed it so far :3
Love it! Love the coverage of Gen 3! Was my favourite generationn and I always had a soft spot for Camerupt. I'm so happy to hear it has a niche in Gen 3 OU! Would love it if you covered Golurk as well, another favourite of mine. Used it in Gen 6 as a sweeper with Iron Fist, didn't care if it was good xD
Camerupt is the only pokemon in history that used magma armor succesfully; prevented the freenzing from ice punch and ice beam. This is specially useful against gengar, making sure it doesn't freeze on switch
I wish I could like this video twice just because I was already going to like it but I want to like it again for the use of the Deus Ex screenshot
I’ve always said if Camerupt had decent bulk, it’d be a majorly spelt on threat. Its Mega was fairly scary.
Gotta love the deus ex references
Great neck becoming a meme this quickly is excellent 😂
I got into Gen 3 OU because of your videos and i've been only using the Callous Camerupt team and i love it but i switched the first mon from metagross to gyarados
i just got to 1400 Elo and i had a lot of fun on my way here
i never got past 1400 elo on any format but who knows maybe this is the one
(i totally won't drop to 1200 yet again)
I want to see Camerupt in Gen 1’s water paint style
Your voice is so soothing
would love to see some ADV LC content since it's on RoA rotation this month :3
I love Great Neck
He's my scrunklo, my little bimblo
Fire ground is actually an underrated type.Yeah Ik that 4x weaknesses to water & 2x weakness to Ground is pretty bad.But it also has some good resistances like fire,fairy,steel,poison,bug & an immunity to electric.
Looks at Primal Groudon and checks out HAHA
I love this. I used to play RSE in like 2006. I think my team was Starmie (Timid with 216 Spe to out speed and KO Gengar) / Skarmory / Dusclops / Salamence and I can't remember the rest 😢
Camerupt is so cool. Ive always been a big fan but when i started getting interested in competitive i was disappointed to see how underwhelming it is in many metagames. Im glad to see it be a viable if niche choice here
Ohhhhhhh, it’s “Callous Invitational.” I’m new here and this entire time I’ve been watching the ADV Revival commentary videos I thought LRXC has been saying “Kalos Invitational.”
I wasn’t really sure what Kalos had to do with ADV, but I went with it.
Could you do a vid on how WAILORD has a niche in ADV OU?
I probably will at some point!
Wailord doesn't have any cheerleaders unlike Camerupt, so there's no real advocacy to draw upon. Which isn't to say it's useless. Whirlpool Self-Destruct, for example.
I would love to see a Compilation of the controversy surrounding Iron Mugulus
gotta respect gen 3 for being the best balanced generation in the history of pokemon
Good video! I'll show it to my camperupt once he gets back from the water park he's going to with friends
I paused this video halfway through to play gen 3 OU for the first time ever and it is a really fun tier so far, but a lot of people must have had the same idea because very team I ran into had a camerupt and none of them used it well
It is fun but it's also hard to be good at it. Jimothy makes it sound easier and more diverse than it actually is.
All the innovation only happens by the few truly talented builders who come to the tier. Most people are significantly less cerebral and run the same tired stuff everyone does.
another banger from Jimothy Bool
im here for great neck
Yeah my favorites are also the same Pokémon I used ingame for emerald. In Swampert, Magneton, Salamance and Breeloom. I also like Flygon but i feel he’s always been slighted compared to other dragons
I used Mega Camerupt actually to great success back in Gen 7 NatDex. Love that mon ever since. It's Fire Blast/Earth Power/HP Ice combo along with Ancientpower/Rock Tomb (to slap Volcarona) was nearly impossible to switch in.
The Iron Mugulis lore 🍺 continues...
The original Primal Groodon
Heracross and starmie is an adv core I use often, since heracross is the best against defense and starmie against offense, so they work nicely. Camerupt is an anchor I use with them a lot to stop zapdos or jolteon from auto beating these tams without having to double up on grounds with swampert and flygon or run blissey which doesn't work on the more offensive team.
I love Camerupt. Not only is he a camel with volcanoes instead of the bumps, but the designers even gave him ring targets on the sides, like at a festival game. My headcannon is that the volcanoes explode if you perfectly hit one of the rings🎉
Porygon2 said: no u
The funny thing is that I remember Gen 3 OU as being that tier where Suicune just steam rolled because all of its weaknesses were more or less neutralized by calm mind and it really only got walled by water absorb Pokémon and even then ice beam usually could KO those eventually. Not a lot can just tank +6 special moves. I know some sets ran only surf/calm mind/sleep talk/rest but I also know that I was playing the tier when Gen 4 was just about to come out. So things definitely changed since then.
It is a comfort food type tier. I get why people love it, but, I just always ended up getting one move read incorrect and losing because of it. It’s too bad I don’t care much for discord. It’s be cool to get back into these older metas. Most of my friends I made during the hay day of gen 3/4 have moved on from Pokémon and I have also moved on due to losing interest when gen 8 decided to show how little Gamefreak and the Pokémon company care about the franchise. I almost think they should just go back to 2D but do everything hand drawn. Animate stuff like they did in gen 5/like how a lot of gatcha games animate characters. It can’t look any worse than what they’ve given us recently. I know Gen 9 is an improvement, but, the visuals just look like they’re not up to par with what the rest of the switch is putting out. If they were an actual indie team I’d be impressed. But they aren’t.
Suicune is still the cheapest Pokemon in the tier with few real checks, but it's not impossible to beat or even extremely common.
It's because Gen3OU is one of the hardest and most skill-intensive metagames of all time. It's not really for everyone in the sense that the difficulty can easily become a filter.
Thanks to the videos of guys like Jimothy and BKC, Gen3OU has seen a surge of interest this year that has led to it becoming the consistently most played old gen OU prior to Gen7OU's ladder. So it's currently on and popping---would be a decent time to get back into it.
Nooo, Raging Bolt. Don't team up with that mug!
Raging Bolt ? i only know Great Neck
@@AI-DreigonGPT alias, maybe?
Camerupt is also D1 rank in DPP which is higher than many OU/ UUBL Pokémon like Shaymin, Heracross, Cresselia, Tentacruel, Weavile, Smeargle, Crobat, Dusknoir, and Snorlax
Gotta love when an off-meta thing is good because it's not the meta and people aren't equipped to handle it.
One of my favorite pokemon in gen 3 OU is lanturn, i really enjoy running it and it is one of my favorite pokemon
Raging bolt is going to sue the pants off of you for misnaming him great neck with old money's lawyers.
Everybody gangsta until Zapdos runs HP Water to check Camerupt
But then it loses to Flygon and Swampert which are the main targets for HP Ice and HP Grass and more common.
Great neck is already an Agency classic
(mega) camerupt has the typing to switch into magearna, resisting fairy and steel plus blocking volt switch
Can u cover some gen3 random battles strategies/pokemon variants?
Interesting, it appears Camerupt's 4x weakness to water is not holding him back. His weakness to Ground attacks is hurting his OU prospects.
In the wise words of Theasiancp3:
"The fact that Camerupt isn't at the very least E tier is an absolute joke.
Hilarious that back in 2014-2016, people were considering Camerupt as a B/C tier pokemon and now it's somehow F tier below BLAZIKEN. Tells me that the bottom of this tier list is a joke.
I've used Camerupt for over 1500 games and have reached 1600 ELO while beating plenty of 1650+ ELO people in the past. The fact that it's not taken seriously is hilarious.
Explosion, ability to switch onto Gengar, takes neutral damage from BOTH HP's (ice and grass), combination of Earthquake/FB, etc.
The fact that it's below something like Blaziken is even more of a joke."
Both Blaziken and Camerupt never got S-grade teams that prove definitively they aren't memes. Theorycrafting is nice and all but Practice in Gen3OU is more brutal than people imagine.
Anyway yes I've read this on the forum.
I love Camels! Camels are awesome!
Iron Bryan is going to end up being the Hero we dont want but need. Curse you Iron Mugulis
one time I tried using lunatone with cosmic power and button pass.(only lunatone and solrock have this combination).
iit can be fun when it works, but usually it doesn't.
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0:17 isn't Flareon a better source of heat cauz of his floof
Camerupt is so cool, but it has similar issues to Snorlax. You have to make every turn count with good prediction. It’s so damn slow that you can’t outspeed fast Swampert and Tyranitar so you have to catch them on the switch or you can get forced out. It’s not strong enough to OHKO most Swampert with HP Grass or 2HKO Blissey with Earthquake. It’s not bulky enough to tank neutral hits repeatedly. It can’t fit HP Grass/HP Ice/Toxic/Explosion all in one set. When used well, it really makes you feel like you’ve outplayed your opponent though.
All of that is why Camerupt is in fact a meme and the video is (valid) wishful thinking.
It has to really serve some purpose, such as the great example of allowing Gyarados to run.
Why Pros Use Mightyena in Gen 3 OU
i liked the video Jimothy. Pls tell me the Iron Mugulis is under control.. pls..
Camerupt, Magneton _and_ Porygon2, _all_ in the _same team?_
It's like this team was custom made for me.
@1:26 🤣
Hi, what are the specific evs and moveset for that Callous's team, please?
"Somehow viable" give my boy some respect 💀