Multimach Is A MONSTER And The "Max Range" Roll Isn't What You Think
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- Always a place in my heart for Multimach. To this day it's still relevant. In this review, I go over why you want it. I highly encourage you to get it. We lost some perks, but they brought it back near perfect and in a lot of ways better. I see a lot of information about this SMG out there, but I wan to set some things straight. It's a rare one. Get rolls.
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This thing is still brutal. The rolls I went over... try them. I think you'll see that. Thank you for watching!
doesn't Adjudicator have kinetic tremors? How do we feel about that.
@arjunbaweja7755 13 zoom slower ttk, slightly more range. Tremors in pvp is hit based, won't proc on adjudicator. Pve, sure
I see, that explains why this weapon is so unique!
Since this can be enhanced later on, that means that tremors will happen sooner. Paired with dynamic happening sooner as well, I can see why this is so valued.
So is this replacing your Showrunner with Kenetic Tremors? Or is it a toss up?
Both 900 RPM Lightweight Frame.
Both can roll DSR/ Kenetic Tremors.
Showrunner has Nadir Focus, 13 Zoom.
Multimach has Skulking Wolf, 15 Zoom, 1 extra range, 3 extra stability and 10 extra handling.
If Iron Banner isn't your gig, a Showrunner from Witch Engrams might be a viable substitute.
8:57 as soon as i died i knew i was getting put in the youtube video
Could be worse. I faced lemur twice in a row in trials and people started recognizing me throughout the night
I'd be honored lmao
lol i watched it and was like that poor titan XD
Well……….u died 😎
22 matches in on Banner and haven’t gotten a single new weapon to drop.
Just turn in your engrams at Saladin until you get a drop.
I’m 30 engrams deep, too
Yeah even the quest line broke and didn’t give a drop smh now it’s gone so I can’t even do it no drops and it takes like 20 matches for one drop and then it’s 5 engrams for a focus drop smh 🤦♂️ that’s only if it’s unlocked 🔓 and dropped already
@@SonicVibe it's only 1 engram and some glimmer for a focus drop once you get it.
@@trowabarton222 maybe after the first 5 it drops cost but none say one except old stuff ya missed
Once thing I wanna shout out is not to sleep on Attrition Orbs + Kinetic Tremors in PvE. Big damage and orb generation just for keeping on an enemy, no kill necessary!
can not believe more people are not giving attrition orbs more love, it is amazing
On smgs attrition orbs is nuts. Not so much on some other stuff.
This is the roll I was after. Me and a buddy got it and went and tried it out. Orbs everywhere. Constant healing and surges. Kinetic tremors killing everything. Super fun roll and definitely makes this smg best in slot in my mind .
How many bullets does it take to drop an orb and how many orbs can I drop from one mag?
@@ToxiiicGaming It takes 25 or so bullets for the orb to spawn, but that is sped up by the kinetic tremor. The tremor counts as hits, too. Realistically, you will drop one orb and proc kinetic tremors once per mag. Really fun gun
This is why I love your review. You approach the problem space with open mind and find creative solution when there’s potential. I was farming KT for PvE and now I might try that out in PvP as well.
ye exactly, you can always rely on coolguy to find outside of the box rolls or uses for perks and still have it be something anyone can use
Very well said.
You're so right on the 15 zoom part. For a long time, I couldn't figure out why some SMGs just didn't click for me. I then realized that all the ones I succeed with have 15 zoom or 14 with rangefinder! Multimach out of the box feels just as nice as Submission to me as a result vs something like The Showrunner with 13 or 13 with RF I can't hit anything with.
Very excited to get a good roll with Target Lock so I can maintain the best ttk against high resil guardians.
I also prefer consistency with my lightweight SMGs over kill chaining like Kill Clip since they kill so fast anyways, so Target Lock makes the most sense for me.
Got an offer letter for a new job today making way more money and working better hours, cannot WAIT to start grinding D2 again, specifically pvp ❤❤❤
Awesome man, congratulations!
Congratssss. Love to see the bros winning!!!
Go get it king
Here's a 🍪
Glad someone got the dub these days. I've been turned down like a bajillion times
Another bonus to using Kinetic Tremors in PvP is that everyone's gonna be a bit slow getting out of the way of it since they're not used to seeing it.
people dont understand how its basically just harder, but more reward, explosive payload.
I got hit by it in an IB match earlier, was like…WTF, in PvP…guess that’s a thing😅
@@arjunbaweja7755not similar at all
@@arjunbaweja7755 just bc it makes an explosion doesn't mean its explosive payload bruv, its like saying dragonfly its like explosive payload
@@joako3733 they serve the same purpose of basically standardizing some of your damage across all ranges.
Every other reviewer just went Ermahgaaaad full bore accurized, dogwater iron reach. Literal bots. Thank you for actually taking the time to see what really works. Best guy around
Full bore with iron reach and zero stability. So stupid. At least go small bore, accurized range masterwork or hammer forged, accurized, stability masterwork if you're dead set on iron reach. I tried one with 18 stab and it felt horrible. Dynamic sway with kill clip feels great.
I was telling my clan not to do Iron Reach. It's a 10 point stat penalty for the gun. NEVER go below 20 stability, it's literally a handicap as you end up taking *more* flinch.
U realize ur calling saywalla a bot right? He loves iron reach, but ya know it’s not like he’s one of the best PvP players alive or anything😂😂👌
Well I sniped him in the face last time I saw him so clearly I'm superior
Just cuz people recommend a perk you don’t personally like doesn’t make them bots or dog water at the game. You sound extremely egotistical lol.
Under over/Kt. Got it. Plus we can enhance this next season which will mean we’re doing even more damage with UO and taking less bullets to proc KT.
Unfortunately, I don’t think the weapon is gonna be future proof with that role. Im still going to get TL
Can we switch up the barrels in the future?
@@JosePlays_ No. Bungie said only the Perks from Columns 3 and 4 can be enhanced.
Thsnks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...👊
I e been watching your videos for a pretty long time and it helps a lot the way you explain the in depth of these weapons. I APPRECIATE what you do. Awesome job. Much thanks
dude your videos are so good, I have watched so many weapon videos but something about the way you go through things and explaining your reasoning really sits well with me, thank you, you are definitely one of the best out there.
You were swift getting this one out! I appreciate it, I really do value your opinion especially on weapons where the “god roll” isn’t always so cut and dry
never would i expect to think kinetic tremmors to look broken on an smg or any gun in pvp till i saw what you did to that titan at 8:56
Best part is the enhanced version makes it take less shots, so as soon as it’s enhanceable it’s might even get kills in 13 shots instead of 14 (although that wouldn't affect optimal TTK as you’d have to wait that half second for the explosion to proc anyway)
@@swarthygiant1463are they going to let us enhance these at some point? I haven’t been following closely these last few months.
@@HollowPoint503 Yup! Once TFS drops, a handful of weapons like Multimach and Tusk of the Boar, this year's Guardian Game weapons, the new Trials and Nightfall weapons, and the refreshed Prophecy weapons are all going to be enhanceable.
showrunner can do it but it's recoil and zoom isn't as great
@@swarthygiant1463 Not necessarily. You need to wait half a second for the 2nd explosion but the first explosion happens on the moment of activation. So it should definitely drop TTK.
The updates from Coolguy are so thorough and well communicated. You are amazing Coolguy.
I was on the receiving end of the kinetic tremors roll a few times today when I matched you on Vostok lol. Good games out there and thank you for the awesome content as always!
I have your exact roll Coolguy except with a range MW. I've had it since season of the chosen. My no. 1 most used weapon in pvp. It's hung out through so many zoom nerfs and is still a beast. I feel like I have a gem here. Love the review
As always, I was waiting on this video. I have that killing wind, kill clip roll from a few years ago but I have a roll I am testing out now with Underover and Kinetic tremors. It’s doing pretty good.
Bro love your content amazing as always the grind is on cheers
I Love your videos my friend. Glad to see you are doing well. My thoughts and prayers have been with you.
I missed these awesome videos! Best Destiny 2 Weapons Analyst out!
Everytime I watch one of your videos, it really has me thinking more outside the box. appreciate you and what you do CoolGuy!
A funny conversation during IB yesterday while my wife was playing on my account:
Edit: @5:32 that’s my wife 😂
Edit 2: @5:50 too 😂
My wife: this guy keeps killing me! Ugh
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My wife: Cool guy keeps killing me!
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My wife: that guy 👉 mynameiscoolguy
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Hahahaha that's hilarious 😂 at least you kept letting her play. Show her some of his vids, and be like "this is who was killing you "
@@gramdalfthewhite already did LOL. She was embarrassed and I told her “well it’s on my account, not yours.”
@@PastorJummp classic. Lol it put y'all on the map 😆
Thanks for the quick turnaround on the review - I’ve only sharded a couple. But today Im going to cut down the stash of old unusable multimachs I’d stashed to make space in the vault.
This was super interesting. I have full bore / ricochet / dynamic sway / kinetic tremors / nadir focus on my Showrunner. Would love to see a comparison test at some point. Thanks for sharing this review!
Correction... Hammer forged vs. Full bore
Love your weapon reviews! Definitely my favorite d2 videos to watch.
Huh. I got REALLY lucky as my first Multimach was the exact roll I wanted for PvE... Under-Over and Kinetic Tremors. It's for endgame activities so my kinetic weapon can do the tremors thing, and also get some nice bonus damage against shielded enemies. Pretty interesting you end up talking about that exact roll here, for PvP :p
I definitely see the application though. I hadn't really thought about the effectiveness of Tremors letting you fight outside your range, having those few extra shots actually have some kind of benefit tied to them. That's pretty cool. Lookin' forward to trying this out in IB later!
Thanks cool guy! Definitely going for a tremor roll now
Wow I never would have thought to use that perk in PvP. Thank you!
Got one on my first match, rangefinder , kinetic tremors, I suck at pvp but I found it pretty hilarious procing kinetic tremors to people, it's helping me to play more aggressive so it's a win win.
Got an under over / kill clip roll and it’s nasty.
Also have a dynamic sway/ kinetic tremors roll I assumed would be my pve roll but after watching this I’m gonna have to take it for a spin
Thanks for the return review!
I'm happy with my accurized rounds, dynamic sway reduction, and tape the trigger roll.
Hell yeah the weapon dropped yesterday and you already got a 10+ video on it keep up the hard work
im a diehard lightweight smg fan, submission from vow is my most used pvp gun followed by out of bounds. wasnt around for the first multimach so over the moon to have a chance to get it
One of the things that made the older Multimach so good was it rolled scopes in column one, rather than barrels. So, you could increase its base 1.3x Zoom to 1.5x Zoom with a particular scope. Bringing back the new Multimach with base 1.5x Zoom, plus the benefits of whatever barrel you choose, is awesome. This archetype is very demanding for hitting almost all headshots to reach optimal TTK, and that extra Zoom helps a lot.
ive never been so happy with one of your videos. i have both of these highlighted rolls already so I don't have to go back in there! 🥳
My first drop was rangefinder/frenzy with accurized rounds and range mw. Used it for two games and was very impressed. Frenzy is up almost always and it just feels good. Was pretty worried Bungje was going to tank this one but very nice return to form with some cool new perks.
I have that same old role you have but with tactical mag instead of accurized rounds. It is great indeed.
Everyone keeps saying to stay away from attrition orbs but i actually want to try it out on this gun in particular. With this archetype i imagine it to be an orb printing machine in pve!
Awesome review, will try out kinetic tremors for sure🙌🏼
coming form the true vanguard review to this is wild
Love your videos!!! I HAVE NOT gotten this to drop yet. almost 15 pieces of armor and a few of the GL but NOT this!
Cool guy and TV, the only guys who don't overhype stuff. Respect.
got my godroll with smallbore, accurized, UO & KC w range mw and it's been great
Luckily I unlocked this gun early. Great information. It changes what I am looking for. Time to grind
I rolled one with 80 handling 53 stability 29 range, under over, kinetic tremors. It's an absolute terror to barricade overshield titans and anyone chilling near them
Im glad i was right about UO and KT. That roll caught my eye for PvE as a workhorse primary, but I didn't think about it for PVP
I've got that under/over and kinetic tremors role and it feels so good no matter where I take it.
I just got one. Going to try it tomorrow
my final engram focus was a smallbore, tac mag, under over and tremors with a range mw. range at 46 and 50 stab. My best range one (64 range) has rangefinder and kill clip
Range finder with make range kill clip is what I’m looking for. The extra accuracy and assist fall of with range finder is so good. I’m positive I can handle the lower stability.
Very first one I got to drop was Dynamic Sway / Kinetic Tremors. Unfortunately, no range in barrels or magazine but I might just try it out to see if I like the combo.
I love my OG Multimach with kill clip and threat detector.
Love the review CoolGuy. I hope you're doing well.
You have yet to lead me astray. I hunted down a Corkscrew, accurized, dynamic, kinetic tremors, range mw last IB and it feels incredible and even better fully enhanced. I don't even like smgs but this, I like this.
Got under over And KT. Really excited to give it a go in the current sandbox and have an SMG that’s designed to do something different compared to my other options m
Had no idea. Thanks!
Cool guy you literally have the same og roll I have for multi Mac except instead of accurized I have tactical mag and a range master work. I was hurt I didn't get the accurized rounds 😢 back then
THAT HELPED A LOT TNX,BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT
Glad I still have the Kw/Kc roll with model 8 you showed. Honestly imo clears the new multimach
Thanks for the Video. I did get the GL, and focused and settled on a slice + bait and switch (kept a few more) but curious to try with with Bait and Switch APEX. I have not yet dropped an SMG, but have only played about a dozen matches. I will be looking out for over-under which before the sandbox changes I would immediately trash and therefore don't have many weapons with it. hoping for a over under KC but would be happy with kinetic tremors!
just dropped one from a match with moving target + kinetic tremors, hammer forged and range MW.- steady rounds in the 2nd column. not bad
got an over under + kinetic tremors now too, I am going to run with this one to give smg a try.
Guy, you are so Cool
I trigger Kinetic Tremors often with this gun
Just so everyone’s aware, a 14 bullet TTK on this puts it at 0.867 seconds. In other words: about on par with a 140 hand cannon hitting all their precision shots. Kinetic Tremors is sort of a backstop to damage falloff and hitting body shots.
I got so lucky. I had 4 IB engrams left over from last time IB came around. I cashed them in and the 4th dropped not only Multimach, but dynamic sway / kinetic tremors. Unfortunately I only got small bore as the only additional range help.
Got my hunter deleted few months ago with my multimach on it. Model 8, accurize, dynamic sway, iron grip and range MW. I need to get one back😢
Highly recommend checking out Attrition Orbs with Kinetic Tremors for PVE. Makes this thing an orb making machine.
great video as always
I still have an old roll with KW/KC too. It goes to 75 range when the perk is up. Might have to dust it off while I'm grinding for a new one.
Dang it. I was not going to play Iron Banner at all this week and now I want this SMG with a roll similar to the one in the video.
Get started. It’s a hella grind
I wonder about maybe using under over/kinetic tremors as a rift breaker
I love that killing wind kill clip roll with that sight. I tried the reprised version and just didn’t feel the same
I have a 16 zoom escape velocity and man that thing feels good too
Really need to get a solid roll on this. I wish the drop rate was a tad higher!
I got an over under / kinetic tremors and I like it in pve but never thought to try it in pvp.
What is the barrel & mag you suggest. I watched twice but didn't catch it
Got an old multimach with dynamicsway and killclip, imma cry if i dont get a new roll witg them
I got the under over KC roll with small bore accurized and a handling masterwork. I am super happy I kept it going to give it a shot. Think that’s enough of a range bump for that roll?
2:36 this right here got me thinking. What if they changed elements to combat each other in a balance sort of way. Imagine radiant makes you immune to being frozen while it's active.
Yeah so I watched this right before doing some focusing and the only good roll I got was DSR + Kinetic Tremors and after taking it for a spin...I am so pleasantly surprised. There are definitely a lot of kills that I wouldn't have gotten with any other roll of this weapon; a lot of people are getting back into cover before you can finish kills, and so many times they just got blasted in cover from the tremors going off. So yeah 10/10 would recommend, thanks for the idea CoolGuy!
Plus in TFS we can enhance it which means less rounds needed to proc it!
You should try out this roll: polygoniol rifling, accurized, rangefinder, iron reach, range MW
Ha I got both rolls you said to get dynamic sway and kinetic tremors and then under over with kill clip
Hey coolguy! Can you do a breakdown of gutshot straight in the new sandbox?
I got one with over under AND Kinetic Tremors. Is that a good combo?
Genuinely can't wait to get Attrition Orbs with Kinetic Tremors. Clears PvE. I got the Ikelos roll for PvP, which I can't wait to enhance.
I wanna try an attrition orbs frenzy roll, might be really good for orb generation in PvE
what about the prolonged engagement with milti kill clip and killing wind??
God was with me last night I got a dynamic sway target lock multi first match it dropped and turned in engram from game as well and got the strand wave frame envious swashbuckler not to bad
I was just thinking about hard light can you make a video on it pls
I would absolutely love to get a few rolls of multimach to replace my old rolls... if only they dropped more often from the end of matches and if I could just get this stupid tusk of the boar with envious chain and/or slideways chain. Once I get that then I am focusing on multimach. But I am still in love with my pizzicato with fragile focus and rangefinder. Even after the nerf its still stupid good.
I got a roll with under over + kinetic tremors, I was just gonna use it for pve but I might try it out in PvP now lol
Is it worth grinding for if I have a max range QuickDraw/Kill Clip one from S13?
An under over, kill clip roll dropped for me and I really noticed how it performed against titans. And I was thinking of your theory about kinetic tremors. People seem to underrate that perk for pvp and think it's a pve perk. I still need to get a version with kinetic tremors.
Got a almost max range moving target, iron reach, hammer forged, accurized, range masterwork and it feels like shit because of the stability. Will definitely try to go after your recommendations.
My exact roll is under over and kill clip the first kill all I cold say was damn
Even though I'm on mnk, I want to try the dynamic sway and tap the trigger. I know people tell me to get iron reach but, I want to try it in pvp and pve. I still need good stability.
It took me 83 IB matches (with turning in engrams in between) to get the Tusk to drop so I could start focusing
So happy I don't delete it rolls. I have one with under over 😅
I’m a console player I got yesterday one multimach I have barrels smallbore full bore accurized rounds dynamic sway tap the trigger and masterwork range is it good for controller players?
Personally, what I'm curious about is enhanced Kinetic Tremors on it, once we can upgrade it. I wonder how many bullets it would take to proc it then. It could possibly only be a bullet less, but in a duel that one bullet can mean everything.
I have been tearing up trials with a DSR/Kinetic Tremors roll on Showrunner for a while. This one is even better in every way. People have been sleeping on that combo for a while.
The sad thing is, I don't think any of the modern rolls actually compete with the old KW\KC roll in terms of raw power. Still, It's nice to have more options.