Heliocentric QSC is THE SIDEARM for EVERY PLAYER
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- 0:00 - Heliocentric QSC Sidearm
1:23 - THE BEST sidearm for EVERY player
6:49 - HOW TO GET Heliocentric Sidearm
8:34 - Heliocentric QSC PERKS
10:58 - Heliocentric PvP GOD ROLL
15:28 - Heliocentric PvE GOD ROLL
I've loved #destiny2 lightweight sidearms for several years now, and they've finally given me an upgrade. I hope this helps inform you on WHY Heliocentric is so popular and what god rolls to look for yourself.
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Heads up, ignore the 3rd pvp god roll suggestion. Precision instrument settings were not correct, and heal kill / kill clip will still be the best roll for average to high skill players.
Precision is still the best choice for lower skill players as it’ll help your crits needed in a ton of situations!
Had to settle for precision since a kill clip roll wont drop, its not bad at all. Correction i do have one but my precision has more range, i like range lol
Only perk that is stronger on damage output then kc is sl it does 25% damage buff on guardian kills. Where as kc is 20% an you have to reload to proc where as sl is like rampage no need to reload just keep shooting. Kc is kill clip sl is sword logic.
@@ldysman420 you've got it backwards. KC is 25%, Sword Logic is 20% in PVP after a guardian kill (25% in PVE, it's x2 specifically that's nerfed).
Also, kinda odd to bring up Sword Logic as it only rolls on a select few guns. If we're looking at every perk in the sandbox, you have to look at Tricorn x2 for its 50%, or you could think about Onslaught or Cascade Point to increase RPM instead of damage.
***cries in dismantled moving target/precision instrument*** 😭
@@TheRealGotham totally understandable. I love my range on this thing too! Heal clip has become the make or break for me on it though. It helps SO much.
its really hard to get destiny videos popular because the top creators have a bit of a monopoly, but yours came recommended not long ago and quality was so good i subbed. outstanding legolflash!
Seriously thank you! That is an awesome encouragement. I’m glad the algo has been kind lately!
Love how you acknowledge weapon rolls shouldn't be pigeonholed and how it really comes down to preference, playstyle, and skill level. 🙌
Yeah! I wish I had the ability to go this deep for EVERY weapon. The accuracy adjusted TTK is always enlightening.
I want to thank you Lego for promoting critical thinking rather than “you should use this cuz I said so.” You provide the raw materials for each review and say “Let em cook!” Encouraging curiosity is always good in Destiny! 👌
Love this! Thank you! I was super interested in the data too, so awesome when feelings are confirmed by facts and we can put them all together to really understand it!
It's a perfect hot and cold pairing with Riptide.
amen brother i do concur wholeheartedly
29 upvotes?! You people and your riptide!
@@Legoleflash the one on the summoner video got up to 100.
Love the idea, too!
@@mitchamazingell1 OMG
Mate. Those slow-motion shots you throw in there are phenomenal. Keep it up.
Your content is unironically so good. Clean editing, precise and useful information and good structure. I'm always excited for a new video
Thank you!! These are all the points I try to hit well!
Why is that unironic?
I also agree btw.
Watching your channel grow is awesome because you put in so much effort into these videos. Like fr its crazy. I hope you pop off man, you deserve it
Appreciate this!!! If I can grow enough to actually have excuse to take a day off work, that’d be a dream!
I remember Anonymous Autumn being THE sidearm to use back in Forsaken. That thing could 3 tap people with Kill Clip, it was insane. Now we have a better version lol
I think a dedicated video going further into the intricacies of TTL values, diving into Accuracy Adjusted TTK, and debunking many players' mentality of always going for the Optimal TTK would be a very interesting watch from you Lego.
Keep up the good work! Great video as always ❤
Your video editing is a big reason why I watch. I love the information since the new update and I'm happy my favorite sidearm frame is shining. My Anonymous Autumn was great back in the day
Hey that’s awesome! I’m definitely having to keep raising that bar, but learning new things as I go as well! And I’m kicking myself for not getting in on anonymous autumn action!
great video, crazy good editing. Pure fun to watch - thx man.
You’re killing it with the videos Lego! Your enthusiasm makes me want to get on Destiny every time I finish one of your videos!
Love this!! The only bummer about making them is that I have to play the game LESS to edit 🤣
This gun carried me in my solo warlords run today. Started at like 500 kills on it and ended with 5.5k
Incredible!
Banger vid my dude.
Loved Anonymous Autumn (never got my god roll, but the one I used did have Rangfinder-KC on it). Settled on Rangefinder roll for the Farewell too, but took note of your shoutout when Xur/Banshee was selling the Moving Target-MultiKC roll and been using that since. Got a Perp Motion-AJ Helio and loved it, collected a few other rolls too and it's tough to say which I like most.
Can’t wait for you to grab a heal clip / kill clip then. It’s insane!
Awesome video as always!!
Detailed, simple explanation, gets my sub
Thanks for checking things out! Glad to have ya here!
Dude I just got finished farming master lost sectors for these and now you're making me feel like doing it again. I hope you're happy you lovely enabler you. 11:05 On lightweight Sidearms going above 40 Range is worthless and a poor optimization of stats because at 42 range you'll hit targets at 15.30m with 62 range which is the max possible on Helio you're hitting at 16.80m. The juice ain't worth the squeeze when these puppies kick like a mule. Investing in Stability is a better bet with a good focus on some range so you get better control, which is more important than range as these aren't Handcannons.
Ty for the in depth vid👍
Thank you for being here!!
This was a great video you deff earned a sub!
This was a super-helpful video with tons of actionable content. I had no idea there was a god roll Heliocentric sleeping in my vault. Thank you!!
Thank you for highlighting LW sidearms all these years! I joined in S15 and fell in love with spoiler alert of all things! Hoping for more cool gear in final shape! Now i just gotta try your rec'd helio pvp to match my pve! your vids rule! :D
Yes!! You’ll love it! And thank you!
Love these videos 🐐
Very informative.... Thanks!
nice work. just found you on youtube. liked and followed. also love this weapon.
Your videos are the best in the game on CZcams amazing work!
Great vid lego ❤
Thank you!!! 🙌
14:42 I have the exact same roll and just felt like it slapped. Always enjoy these vids for going into extremely good detail as to why these guns are worth investigating into, not just 'do it because'. Awesome stuff.
Love the vids!
You are cooking Lego! Has been my go to since it first dropped for me, putting in work with Pscars
that's awesome! Helio is a dream!
Hey! Thanks for thanking me, the new subscriber, in this vid! I do appreciate it, and im so glad I stumbled on your treasure trove of a channel. To more growth! 🥂
Hey welcome! thank you for being here! Glad to have ya and looking forward to all that’s to come!
Before this video I haven't seen a video of someone explaining this gun as well as you and actually convince me to try and get a good PVP and PVE god roll, hopefully even a multi-god roll weapon. If I can get a Full bore, accurized rounds, heal clip, kill clip, incandescent, and range master work then I would be very pleased. I have been a big fan of sidearms since the taken king I even main Dreg's Promise for crucible during Destiny 1. But since the launch of D2 most legendary sidearms just haven't seen worth it to me until this video.
Thank you for actually taking the time to properly explain why this gun is good and how to use it efficiently.
"I loved sidearms since Witch Queen."
Okay, Fusion Rifle and Sidearm lover? I knew there was a good reason to follow this champ.
Cheers for the video!
I’m glad you mentioned the recoil/zoom of this weapon. I have multiple god rolls of this, but I don’t like using it in PVP for that reason.
Joy seeing you get the love/support, much deserved and always appreciated! :)
I actually look forward to the long videos. When I saw it was 17 minutes, I grabbed some food and a drink to watch Destiny's best weapon deep diver.
So encouraging! Thank you for that!!!
why are you so damn good Lego; great video man
Making my night man! Thank you!
I've had a demo/incandescent since the day it dropped and used it non stop since 😁👍
That’s awesome! Gg!
I like the incandescent heal clip one, as they soften allot to be picked afterwards, for the heal clip.
Easy recoil, boosts mobility, offers heal clip and incandescent, kill clip too, quick swap potential, no need for counter balance as its so close, yeah.
yeah great videos and the perk breakdown by skill level is genius
This content is so high quality man
Appreciate it! I feel like I’m starting to try to outdo myself each vid, but that’s not such a bad thing!
Subbed very informative 👍
Glad to have you here! 😄
The helio reminds me of havoc pigeon. An Heal + Kill Clip is phenomenal.
Havoc Pidgeon was my my destiny 1 meta with badger CCL
the random incan heal clip heliocentric I got not even knowing it was hype and falling in love with it carrying me through most of the stuff I've been doing.
ah heliocentric. the perfect lightweight sidearm. i wish we had lightweight fusions. could you imagine the things we could pull off by just having +20 mobility while we ran a lightweight heliocentric + riptide combo?!
Omg you had me, and then… 🤣
Well they certainly has me to understand why I was wrecking with it in Iron banner. Thanks for explaining it to me.
I got one farming the Throne World today with heal clip and precision instrument. Verycool!
Yoooo!!! GG!
Fantastic weapon deep dive! Still hoping to find one with heal clip :D
I had a blast in a legendary lost sector using the heal clip incandescent roll! I paired it with riptide, apex predator, & assassin's cowl on my Solar Hunter! :D
Prior to the sandbox change I have a heliocentric with PM + KC and racked up 600+ kills in it. Now I'm working with HC + KC and god I can't be happier. Looking to refine the roll with better mag and barrel perks when I can farm, but I love this sidearm so much.
The Autumn was my favorite. The very first helio I had drop had rangefinder and kill clip with a range masterwork. I hardly ever take it off. Over 2000 crucible kills with it. Only had 3 others drop, but nothing with rolls better than that first one. I love sidearms. So much more fun and satisfying to use than shotguns imo.
Especially when you backpedal a shotgun ape and beam them while they try to melee you juuust out of range 😂
@@ShutchyerLips I second that they must be so completely demoralized after lmao
Just went flawless with the prophet adept keep away/kill clip and a heliocentric heal clip/kill clip. Sometimes not having that clutch special ammo can be felt pretty hard, but its generally so powerful its crazy
As always.Nice video
Thank you! Appreciate it!
Good stuff lego.
i ended up farming out a heal clip frenzy one, and it has saved my bacon so many times when playing on stasis this season
🙌🙌🙌 yessss, having heals on subclasses other than solar (and radiant this season) is just amazing
The production quality of these videos is amazing
Appreciate it! Each video I feel like I’m trying to outdo the others 😅😅
@@Legoleflash keep it up man, those transitions are so slick.
I got a demolitionist and incandescent roll for pve. I absolutely love it. I also have a heal clip and precision instrument as well.
Have several different God Rolls on this sidearm. I never liked sidearms, legendary & exotic, at all. Then I got this. Love it
Super cool to hear! Yeah this thing is LOADED
Also loved how you broke the “god roll” into different tiers depending on skill
Appreciate this too! I think it’s really helpful to acknowledge where everyone is at, and want to do more of that in the future!
I actually used the pve godroll (healing clip + incandecent) in iron banner yesterday and went compkelely berserk! Paired it with the Mida scout on my solar warlock
I first got my roll when season of the wiych came out, it was a pve roll of heal clip and incandescent, i just held onto to it and figured it will be good one day. Then i landed a precision instrument and enlightened roll, oh man did i just love it when i first used it in crucble. After that i grinded for it. Thankfully, this season i got a kill & heal clip roll with max range. However, my golden child is heal clip amd precision instrument.
Heal clip and incandescent with embers of benevolence when playing with other people. Demolitionist and incandescent when going solo. It absolutely slaughters. Especially this season with all the solar buffs, and the anti barrier is amazing for anything with a shield.
The pvp rolls time stamp is god tier , thank you
I got you! I know not everyone has time for a 17min deep dive 😅
Helio is so freaking good! I managed to get a 3/5 -- Heal Clip/Kill Clip/Accurized, but reload instead of range MW -- that is amazing. Got the same but with stability MW and find the reload is better since the thing feels like a laser regardless of the stability bump and the reload speed with HC/KC has won me several probably undeserved 2-on-1 and 3-on-1 that I, a mediocre pvp player at best, wouldn't have been able to pull off. Still farming for a range MW version but no such luck (not even close after several hours the other day on Drowned Wishes, lol). I might try a Precision Instrument on your recommendation, thank you.
Great breakdown, you have a new subscriber!
I got one early in the season with corkscrew, accuriesed, demo, AJ, with a reload MW and it is a beast in both PVE and PVP. Good ability regen and kill chaining with AJ. Has become on of my favorites to pull out this season, but I do worry about its usability after the artifact perks go away.
I CANT PUT IT DOWN THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS GEM
🙌🙌🙌
I need that spreadsheet... great video.
I've had a lot of interest in it so I'm going to work on updating the FULL Destiny Massive Breakdowns spreadsheet, as it's pretty outdated and will take some time, but would be valuable information.
Been using HC PI for most of the season and it's pretty cracked. Made me put down the ol' Drang.
It really is the best at getting that single kill, no denying it
Yeah i 1000% agree Heliocentric QSC is the best sidearm i have ever used..... Honestly i would take what i just said about Heliocentric and emphasise on that statement "Heliocentric QSC is the best sidearm in the history of the Destiny Franchise." 😁
Dang! Now that’s an endorsement!
@@Legoleflash Damn Straight lol
"Nobody hits every crit every time"
Except when i decide to play pvp, then everyone and anyone cant miss my head
LOL this comment, right here, this is the winner
great vid
I’ve got one with arrowhead break, accurized, rangefinder, precision instrument; and a range masterwork. I’ve only pulled it out as a PVE weapon for barrier champs. Will check it out in PVP and see how it treats me.
Great vid as always Lego! As another commenter said, sidearm for every controller player. It would have to take a lot for something to pry Senuna from my fingers.
When it came to lightweight sidearm my personal favorite was the keening I had a ranged roll with subsitants and snapshot then this heliocentric with all range and heals and kills and it came from a red bar in terminal overload about 3 weeks ago and I haven't done a terminal overload since 😂
That is so weird, I saw that Farewell roll and was like... that looks familiar... Turns out the only roll I have is the exact roll that you showed, same barrels, mag perks, masterwork, everything. Freaky!
Ha! That’s amazing!
I had a drop with Solar Damage Incandescent and perpetual motion and I love it!
I had my very first one drop, randomly, with HC/KC. It was towards the start of the season, so nobody even knew that it was any good. I just kept it because it was unique at the time 😅
Lord only knows how many of these things I've dismantled because I don't use sidearms.😅 I've got a heal clip/incandescent in my vault, but I know for sure I've dismantled at least three heal/kill clip rolls. Lol
Thank you for putting words to something I knew felt so great but couldn't pin point why.
Yeah! I honestly really wanted to know too and was what got me digging! There had to be something!
Very good video. It’s friendly and open minded to the weapon being good whether it is meta or not. I run Redback with Bite of the Fox and was after a new sidearm to pair with it for PvP and Helio has become my favourite pick. It has demo and adrenaline junkie or even incandescent if you want more PvP usage.
Helio has quickly rekindled my love for sidearms which waned as I became an auto rifle fan for the better part of Lightfall.
My only feedback is reigning back supporting range increasing picks in rolls for PvE. More often than not, range will be negligible in PvE. Having thousands of hours in the game and understanding the psychology of picking weapon rolls, partly thanks to Aegis’ video on the subject “What is an Endgame Godroll?”, I can confidently say an extra half a mater is not gonna do much while handling will make a difference for how fast you can get the gun out and actually start shooting or reload to make sure you are always firing. Stability would be there too but the discrepancy between headshot and body shot damage like you said is minimal and so stability is lesser priority compared to weapons with higher recoil or weapons that operate at far ranges.
Hey thank you! And, yes! I totally see your point on the other stats over range, I haven't found them to make as big a difference for me personally, but I can see how universally that handling and reload would be the play. Thank you for the feedback and I'll definitely think about all this!
Got a roll with heal clip and frenzy I love it so much
I've had one... it has Smallbore, Flared magwell, Heal Clip and Frenzy! There's also that Titan Helm Precious Scars!! I'm a mostly pure pve player.. who is smashing my head agaist a wall trying to get the Summons with Heal Slip and Onslaught...
Heal clip/frenzy on Helio has absolutely CARRIED me in solo dungeons.
SO powerful!
For you dawn chorus warlocks out there get a demolitionist/incandescent roll and abuse fusion grenade heat rises/phoenix dive with ember of empyrean, ashes, searing, and singeing to basically have some juicy ability uptime and perma resX2 in onslaught
No wonder i been maining mine with hc precision instrument, so smooth to use
I love your videos man, big big fan! I’ve been trying to match the lightweight sidearm skill ever since I first found you when you told us all about your race to the #1 spot in rumble! Confirmed a lot of things I was theorizing about with this one and it’s very validating for me and my competency in this game. Thanks again and keep up the great work!!!!
thank u mr lego
I got you! 😄
I have this in incandescent and demo on grenade builds for PVE and it’s nice
Got Chamber/Accurized/Demo/AJky/RangeMW. Love it.
I'm telling you right now: I have used Heliocentric for a long time in both gamemodes. I love it. One sidearm that tops it for me, however that I urge you to take a look at is Fioritura-59. My preferred roll is killing wind kill clip, but I use other rolls. It has an optimal 0.67 TTK, just like helio, but I find the faster fire rate to be so much better feeling. I rarely find myself having to reload in a 1v1, and once I start KW and kill clip, I never have to reload in a 1v1. It has a learning curve, but once you get the hang of rapid fire sidearms, you won't want to go back.
i run range mw, full bore, appended mag, range finder, precision instrument. and it is amazing. Slays for me in trials. the appended + backup mag gets to 20 rounds and makes double kills in trials happen often for me
Great sidearm!
I got mine a little over month ago with Heal clip/Kill clip. It is literally my favorite side of all time next to D1’s Iron Wreath. I got over 1100 kills on it.
My favorite D1 was Conviction II. Sidearms were so slept on in D1 PvE, little shotguns with range and great ammo economy.
I have one with incandescent and Heal Clip, my favorite PvE sidearm period.
I definitely want a heal clip incandescent roll for PvE.
But for PvP my mediocre roll of swift Verdict just feels good to me. I swear it has some kind of secret sauce that makes it feel amazing.
Amazing! You've convinced a fellow sidearm collector to hunt one down! I did want to ask, did you compare range stat vs range stat to Drang, or did you account for Drang's increased zoom? Either way, I'd still love to get this guy for the forgiveness and fun factor!
I got two: heal clip with incandescent for PvE and Moving Target Kill Clip for PvP (esp. trials).
Gotta farm an heal clip kill clip roll tough, that one eludes me so far.
I love them, especially on radiant hunter in PvP.
Happy Easter everyone!
only useful video out ther.. very good work.
I find if you have too much vertical recoil, changing your FOV a small amount sometimes helps mitigate that
Another fantastic video. Was farming Bay of Drowned Wishes for one when I got this notification. This is going to save some vault slots now that I know what I’m looking for.
Yeah I got to go through and delete about 20 as well! Haha, I tried out SO many. 😅