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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • Cool projects are rare. Here I found one I want to show to you. An off-grid personal communicator. It includes a lot of new technologies: ESP32, Smartphones, LoRa, BLE, GPS, Mesh, and as you see, 3D printing. And it solves a problem that could be seen as a human right: Personal SMS style communication everywhere in the world, without the need for any infrastructure, and without mass surveillance. In addition, it shows the location of all your friends in your group on a map on your Smartphone. Everything open source, of course. How cool is that? Even "Sexycyborg" Naomi Wu likes it.
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  • @bigclivedotcom
    @bigclivedotcom Před 4 lety +968

    I must admit, I'm quite taken by this concept.

    • @templebrown7179
      @templebrown7179 Před 4 lety +60

      Looks like Clive is also a subscriber of the man with the Swiss accent.

    • @BloodBlight
      @BloodBlight Před 4 lety +14

      I had thought about something like this when I first saw LORA on this channel, glad to see someone is way ahead of me!!! I am curious if the "relays" can work without being paired to a phone. I assume so. They could even be powered/recharged by solar or other sources...

    • @khester
      @khester Před 4 lety +6

      @@BloodBlight yes to all of that

    • @s4vila
      @s4vila Před 4 lety +3

      @bigclivedotcom same. If it advances to so that messages propagate instantly it could make for an interesting cueing system for shows or backstage coms. You should be able to easily link messages to a relay of some sort to power an LED or something similar.

    • @dicktonyboy
      @dicktonyboy Před 4 lety +6

      @@templebrown7179 It's THE place to be. Trouble is I'm old enough to say "Be there or be square" :(

  • @jasonvoorhees895
    @jasonvoorhees895 Před 3 lety +457

    Years ago, I thought "There's gotta be a way to invent a cell phone that doesn't use service providers, does its own transmitting and receiving, and the more people in an area that had them, the better they would work. If ONLY I knew SQUAT about electronics...."

    • @2bczar4u
      @2bczar4u Před 3 lety +21

      There was a Tv series a few years back where people were always watched and analysed by a computer linked to all cameras and phones. It sent messages to this person about saving certain people. When the competing bad computer was launched, good guys had to use this type of network to communicate. Since LOS was required nodes were set on the rooftops. Might have been this tech that fueled this idea. I thought how handy this would be in a surveillance state.

    • @eternalillusion
      @eternalillusion Před 3 lety +26

      @@2bczar4u The idea is fundamental enough in of itself that surely many people have had it long before it started to get traction. I thought of a similar approach to a distributed internet when i was in middle school. Ideas are only as good as the resources available to implement them.

    • @mikabreto
      @mikabreto Před 3 lety +3

      The HBO show Silicon Valley had the company pivot into distributed internet in the fifth season. These memes are out there, they just need traction. This project helps like snow tires in the traction arena.

    • @PowderMill
      @PowderMill Před 3 lety +15

      2bczar4u PERSON OF INTEREST! Great show but it would never be allowed on the new SJW /Far Left networks.

    • @2bczar4u
      @2bczar4u Před 3 lety +5

      @@PowderMill yeah, they would probably flip the story. Everything good would be bad and the bad guys would be justified. Fekken idiots destroy everything.

  • @maytronix7201
    @maytronix7201 Před 3 lety +259

    I feel like I walked into the wrong classroom but I'm too embarrassed to leave

    • @robertwells3797
      @robertwells3797 Před 3 lety +6

      Haha I'm with you, no clue how I ended up here

    • @AndreasDelleske
      @AndreasDelleske Před 3 lety +7

      FBI is already on the way :-)

    • @fatrambo73
      @fatrambo73 Před 3 lety +3

      lol same it all sounds cool but i have no idea way above my head

    • @garyh4458
      @garyh4458 Před 3 lety +3

      LOL. I have done that before in college.

    • @pistonwristpin1
      @pistonwristpin1 Před 3 lety +4

      Yep, I walked into the wrong classroom, but didn’t know school taught stuff like that, so I’m stayin’.

  • @davidlong9046
    @davidlong9046 Před 3 lety +262

    This is needed now more then ever. Perfect timing!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +23

      Thank you!

    • @davidlong9046
      @davidlong9046 Před 3 lety +4

      @@smokingcrab2290 Indeed it does. Calling to the eithar in perfection , time and necessity.

    • @davidlong9046
      @davidlong9046 Před 3 lety +3

      @@AndreasSpiess welcome

    • @alanacartes3382
      @alanacartes3382 Před 3 lety +10

      Look into the new administration's push to criminalize independent/unofficial broadcasting.
      I was puzzled when I first heard about it.
      I am TAKEN ABACK that there appears, as per usual as of late - NO pushback that I have seen.
      If anyone is aware of any efforts to actually INFORM ppl, please reply.
      I am disheartened with the pained awareness most seem to have something impacting and diminishing their attention span(s) (almost like that MIB neuralizer?)
      I would like to SHARE with concerned ppl with large channels in an effort to steer the support of even just many if not most of those subscribers.

    • @filthyfrankblack4067
      @filthyfrankblack4067 Před 3 lety +1

      Glad you finally on board.. Please spread the work.

  • @Meshtastic
    @Meshtastic Před 2 lety +53

    Thanks for this amazing video. A lot of people learned about Meshtastic because of you. You rock!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety +10

      Thank you! I see taht it also got traction in the HAM radio community. I just started a second channel in this field and probably I will cover the project again. Particularly the more enhanced functions to build networks .

    • @wherami
      @wherami Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@AndreasSpiess yes thank you for promoting this. Its something thats been needed for a long time. decades ago we theorized this in seattle and implemented some variations of this in our local neighborhoods but things have really progressed now.

  • @Jackknife-TV
    @Jackknife-TV Před 3 lety +49

    Wow this is perfect timing for what's going on in the US right now

    • @the_luminary
      @the_luminary Před 3 lety +9

      I think that's why were here right now

    • @Ed19601
      @Ed19601 Před 3 lety +11

      Not just usa

    • @lumberjackdreamer6267
      @lumberjackdreamer6267 Před 3 lety

      What is this thing you say is “going on”??

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac Před 2 lety

      @@lumberjackdreamer6267Just the same ole treason and sedition

  • @SteveRichfield
    @SteveRichfield Před 3 lety +45

    Japan has a Constitutional ban on military secrets - so you should be able to operate a very broad band relatively powerful HF CDM, which would be undetectable, and even if detected - it would still be legal - in Japan. From there, despite laws, people would export these units to more repressive countries - like the U.S. Once there are a few thousand of these units operating around the world, the genie would be out of the bottle and secure secret communication would be possible - which would be enough to topple repressive governments who don't clean up their act. THIS could change our world for the better. Keep up the good work.

    • @leapfrog4561
      @leapfrog4561 Před 3 lety +8

      Another thing I admire about japan is that the government seems to respect their constitution. The reason they didn’t shut down businesses and lock down is because the prime minister recognized that according the their constitution the government does not have the power to tell people what to do.

    • @salty_armorer4027
      @salty_armorer4027 Před 3 lety +3

      Got any links for me to read up on this???

    • @whatscookingresearch
      @whatscookingresearch Před 8 měsíci

      The need is to operate without any government. They are all repressive

  • @eek0212
    @eek0212 Před 3 lety +230

    i think people in hongkong will be really appreciate this little device

    • @Graeme_Lastname
      @Graeme_Lastname Před 3 lety +1

      And if you get caught?

    • @AshGreen359
      @AshGreen359 Před 3 lety +10

      Soon proper in the US will too

    • @parishna4882
      @parishna4882 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Graeme_Lastname they chop your hands off and tell you to tie your own shoe laces?

    • @Phelan666
      @Phelan666 Před 3 lety +13

      People in America need it way, way more.

    • @FedoraSpunk
      @FedoraSpunk Před 3 lety +2

      @First Munch no, I'd make something else

  • @martyewise
    @martyewise Před 4 lety +28

    Very nice project that uses several different technologies of interest. Thanks!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +2

      You bet! That is why it is one of my favorites.

  • @unknownstuntman4166
    @unknownstuntman4166 Před 3 lety +20

    If only the mere mortals like me could just buy this online already made.
    Then talk to other people who also own one, then big brother can’t keep snooping

  • @PurohitAnkit
    @PurohitAnkit Před 3 lety +9

    Dear Andreas. Thank you for the time and effort you put in your videos to educate us on the topic. Looking forward to seeing more from you :D

  • @BerndSchmitt-Martinique
    @BerndSchmitt-Martinique Před 3 lety +4

    The way you are preparing stuff and communicate it is absolutely phantastic. Greetings from Germany and keep on motivating your community.

  • @easemailboxes
    @easemailboxes Před 3 lety +4

    Im new to this space and want to thank you for such a clear and concise introduction. Thanks also for Disaster radio, amazing project. Your work is fascinating. Im ready to take the next step. Thanks.

  • @jimmyfio
    @jimmyfio Před 4 lety +5

    You know you are changing the world with every video. God bless you!

  • @dougbas3980
    @dougbas3980 Před 3 měsíci

    I am just starting now. 3 years after this video, so anxious to see all Anfeas's newer videos on Meshtastic.😎

  • @everready19373
    @everready19373 Před 3 lety +10

    These need to be mass produced NOW!!

    • @SquidCena
      @SquidCena Před 3 lety

      If it was, they would be tackled by censorship and privacy as always. Has to be made in secret or all the big corporations will literally try to stop it at all costs.

    • @davagain
      @davagain Před 3 lety

      In China?

  • @PyroChimp75
    @PyroChimp75 Před 4 lety +227

    Downloaded this video before it mysteriously disappears ;)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +88

      Good concept. And post it to a peer-to-peer network ;-)

    • @Electronieks
      @Electronieks Před 4 lety +1

      @@AndreasSpiess tpb ? ok

    • @AkraiLulerz
      @AkraiLulerz Před 4 lety +5

      like peertube

    • @awaisahmadsiddiqi6505
      @awaisahmadsiddiqi6505 Před 4 lety +1

      @@AkraiLulerz does something like this exist?

    • @Adnub
      @Adnub Před 4 lety +17

      @@AndreasSpiess You should upload your videos to LBRY as well. They have an option to automatically import your videos as you upload them here. Dave from EEVblog is already using it and I watch all his videos that way.

  • @RoelvanWanrooy
    @RoelvanWanrooy Před 3 lety +23

    Thanks for using and linking my 3D case! I always watch your interesting videos. Keep up the good work! 👍

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you for your cute little case! I like it.

  • @avejst
    @avejst Před 4 lety +2

    Great walkthrough/project as always 👍
    Thanks for sharing 👍😀

  • @cedricbillingsley3960
    @cedricbillingsley3960 Před 3 lety +2

    Your ideas are the yummiest!! Keep cooking them up!

  • @tonytschanz5642
    @tonytschanz5642 Před 4 lety +4

    What a GreaTastic Posting! Thank you Andreas ... and I am a (worse) Swiss Accent Fellow despite having lived away from my home country for many decades by now ;-)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you. Meanwhile it is my trade mark ;-)

  • @sharpbends
    @sharpbends Před 4 lety +12

    Cool project, I wrote a similar application just for fun when I got a pair of T-Beams (also securely) communicating with Android - over 3km range in my brief testing. The The T-beam is ideal for this mesh group communications task.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Maybe you join their project? The still need some help...

    • @khester
      @khester Před 4 lety +2

      Oh yes we would love the help and it is super fun/friendly

    • @tsclly2377
      @tsclly2377 Před 3 lety +1

      www.amazon.com/TTGO-T-Beam-868Mhz-Bluetooth-Battery/dp/B07DGF3S22

  • @qkb3128
    @qkb3128 Před rokem +1

    Just a note to you I love your recaps enjoy really listening to you do you seem to really know what you’re talking about thank you so much I just subscribed today.

  • @serta5727
    @serta5727 Před 4 lety +2

    Awesome, thanks a lot. People from the Philippines will need this a lot in the next years.

  • @muctop17
    @muctop17 Před 4 lety +14

    Just flashed it! Due to earlier videos of you, I do have TTGO T-beam and other LORA-modules in stock. Thank you! This sunday project is salved

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +2

      Great! So you are a tester now...

    • @muctop17
      @muctop17 Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Not so fast OM! I have the T-beam and my Wifi-Lora-32 up and running, but my other toys are too old, I think: a Nexus 7 tablet and a S5neo, I stole from my wife. The Android app ist not runnig smooth on these. I can´t setup/alter a channel. Bluetooth is unstable and so on. I never bought a smartphone or mobile myself, always use old ones I found in the trashbin of my children. There is no manual how to setup/use the app?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      You probably have to ask Kevin for that. I do not know all the details and prerequisites.

    • @khester
      @khester Před 4 lety +4

      Some old bluetooth implementations were pretty buggy. Try rebooting the phone, then pair the device in android settings/bluetooth then launch the app. If you have further problems just post in meshtastic.discourse.group/ and we'll help.

    • @muctop17
      @muctop17 Před 4 lety

      @@khester Thank you ! That helped, connecting, but I can´t correct Group setup because the lock symbol does not open ! Could not click it open!?

  • @NiHaoMike64
    @NiHaoMike64 Před 4 lety +42

    Perhaps a good future project to add to it would be a Raspberry Pi Zero W attached to one or more LoRa modules to allow interconnecting LoRa mesh networks with Tor or I2P?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +13

      You are welcome to contribute to the project. They have a collaborative room

    • @k98killer
      @k98killer Před 2 lety +2

      I am working on a new network protocol specification that includes encrypted tunnels as a core feature. The basic idea is to use latency measurements between hosts to derive addresses in several dimensions using basic gradient descent. The first node in a network becomes the origin, and every new node calculates and self-assigns an address encoding coordinates after gaining latency attestations from neighbors; all other nodes can then verify the address very quickly using the latency attestations.
      One of the benefits to this coordinates-as-address system is that routing becomes a matter of forwarding to the neighbor who has the lowest distance from the target address. How to make that an efficient look up is something I have yet to formalize, but I have outlined other things, like gaining guest address leases from hosts, bridging between networks, neighborhood gossip protocol, anti-spam policies, etc.

  • @unclerico4644
    @unclerico4644 Před 3 lety +2

    This is a really dope project! Thanks for sharing and I get a kick out of the miniature hand lol

  • @EverydayRoadster
    @EverydayRoadster Před 4 lety +1

    Great, I started looking into LoRa mesh, this is a valuable hook for research.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Very good. And maybe you can even enhance it?

  • @engineeringadventures1229

    Almost exactly what I was looking for for. Thanks!

  • @GUVWAF
    @GUVWAF Před 4 lety +10

    This project sounds perfect for when hiking in remote areas where cellular coverage is limited (or when you turn mobile data off to save battery). It would be great to see each others' location and negotiate on e.g. lunch time. As you say, a lot of interesting technologies are combined, so it sounds as a very interesting project to work on! Thank you for this nice explanation.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +4

      I think you are right on the spot with the usage...

  • @redbaron9029
    @redbaron9029 Před 3 lety +1

    This is just the beginning I can see voice followed by video calls facilitation along this mesh network. It might be another revolution in communication.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +1

      I do not think so. Because of its limitations it will only cover a niche.

    • @MR-nl8xr
      @MR-nl8xr Před 3 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess what would it take to get it there?
      Would it even make sense to get it there?
      If so, would it the material or resource to do that outweigh it's current advantages?

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 Před 2 lety

      @@MR-nl8xr Wifi links to all of your neighbors you'd care to communicate with. Hook up using the same equipment WISPs use. (Point-to-point wifi links.) We were already there years ago. But first you'd need neighbors that want to go through all of that trouble and expense just for a "maybe". (Because you could just chat with them over the internet while that's up and running.) T-BEAM is a ~$35 "maybe" if you just buy one node. Setting up your own wifi-neighbors-infrastructure could get into the thousands of dollars / sky is the limit. (Not saying it wouldn't be cool. Do it!)

  • @sonofabippi
    @sonofabippi Před 3 lety +1

    The tiny white-gloved hand was a nice... ...touch.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you. It has quite a few fans on this channel ;-)

  • @jdueheue
    @jdueheue Před 3 lety +3

    That’s perfect for our cruise ship holidays. The problem there is that WiFi and lte are incredibly expensive on ships, so normally it’s not easy to communicate on a 350m long ship :-) Lora should even work in such a steel-y environment.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      Very good idea. Would be worthwhile to check how the steel influences the range. I have not "cruise plans" for the moment :-(

  • @mewintle
    @mewintle Před 4 lety +3

    I haven’t built any LORA projects yet (I have a long queue of projects) but I’ve loved learning about it from you in so many videos. The content is always so practical and concise. I’m amazed how you manage to fit so much into a short video without sounding rushed. Just perfect. Thank you.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you for your nice words. It probably takes a little longer on my side to save you some time. One man spends a little more and thousands can save a few minutes. That is what I strive for.

  • @GrandpasPlace
    @GrandpasPlace Před 2 lety +2

    I got a couple of these for christmas and came back to rewatch some of your lora videos. They have improved the meshtastic firmware a lot. You can now connect them to your wifi and have them put messages (encrypted) into an MQTT server that is then picked up by all nodes using the mqtt server with the same channel name/key over the internet and rebroadcast. Basically, I could set up a node here in Texas connected to an MQTT server, you could set up a node in Sweden connected to the same MQTT server both with the same channel names/keys and I could send a message from my phone that you get delivered to your phone. All encrypted via the mesh network and sent over the internet.
    Out of the box with the stock antenna it gets good range. From a shelf in my house to the other one being on the dashboard of my car, I got 1km. Bet if I install a high gain antenna and put it on a mast I can get much further.
    Thanks for the great videos.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 2 lety

      Good to know. I did not follow the project. But this is good news!

  •  Před 3 lety +2

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  • @kevin.whouse2269
    @kevin.whouse2269 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm very interested I'm so tied of being spied on everything you do on these smart phones is recorded and I mean everything. This technology is in our TV's too so this is so interesting I would love to see this product grow into a great private communication device
    Great Idea 👍👏

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      Thank you!

    • @anthonygato407
      @anthonygato407 Před 2 lety

      not only is everything accounted for recorded but the behavior is also being inferred to extract some future behavior. you cant just do something. you do something and its applied to all knowledge of psychological data and discoveries to label the mind state, personality type, health, ect ect ...

  • @justintothetruth
    @justintothetruth Před 3 lety +4

    Pretty much all tech started for military use.
    So I’m excited. I think this is going to be very handy. For who? 😬 we’ll see

    • @ShawnJonesHellion
      @ShawnJonesHellion Před 2 lety +1

      your comment makes me think telepathy is probably the better route to choose. not sure if electronics are a crutch to the magic or a trap.

  • @markiprekmarikitangoprek6242

    thanks Andreas , this is what I've been looking for in my project

  • @LarryKapp1
    @LarryKapp1 Před 4 lety +3

    Thanks for another great video ! No other way I would be able to keep up with all these things.

  • @rednassie1101
    @rednassie1101 Před 3 lety +5

    I cannot stress how excited I am right now

  • @guatagel2454
    @guatagel2454 Před 4 lety +5

    Thank you! This is exactly what I need!

  • @4Da_Tech
    @4Da_Tech Před 3 lety +1

    So, i build this exact seyup back on older equipment. I like what you did here. Look into microwave power transmission for overcoming battery /power issues

  • @ericon.7015
    @ericon.7015 Před 4 lety

    Cool project.
    One thing we have to have in mind is that there are people that will use that solution for the good and also there are people unfortunately use it for bad things. But was always like since we began to be technological species.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +1

      Similar as with knifes and these days, even lorries :-(

  • @MrFreakRick
    @MrFreakRick Před 3 lety +9

    read about this back it in 1998... "Hands of this book"...

    • @Mizzimo
      @Mizzimo Před 3 lety

      I can't find "Hands of this book"

  • @Auxrad39
    @Auxrad39 Před 4 lety +3

    Again a great Video , some of the members of our maker space have been talking about setting something like this up:) thank you for your effort and time Andreas

  • @santorcuato
    @santorcuato Před 4 lety +2

    Really interesting as usual. For me it seems a little bit rare to send GPS position for something "underground", but for a "private" use it sounds better. A lot to learn about... Thanks!

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I am no „underground“ specialist ;-)

    • @santorcuato
      @santorcuato Před 4 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Sure!!!

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 Před 2 lety

      Nothing wrong with using GPS (a received signal) and sharing with others that you are in encrypted communication with. There is a thing called being too paranoid restricting usability.

  • @gianlucagatti4576
    @gianlucagatti4576 Před 2 lety

    Nice subject!
    Thanks for your video.

  • @drmocm
    @drmocm Před 4 lety +9

    Damn you, now I have to go look for my T-Beams and flash them. :)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +2

      And the whole Sunday is gone ;-) P.S. Look at the version oaf the T-Beams. I had to order new ones. They had a first version which is very different. (version 0.7)

  • @devrim-oguz
    @devrim-oguz Před 4 lety +3

    That's like something I had in my mind for years. Thanks for sharing!

  • @fullsolutionslab
    @fullsolutionslab Před 3 lety

    Yeahhhhhh!!! Our Andreas rocks!! :) Thanks a lot for sharing your experience and knowledge with us. You are realy awesome!! :)

  • @Gabirell
    @Gabirell Před 4 lety +2

    That's fantastic! Would love to try it...

  • @Nerd2Ninja
    @Nerd2Ninja Před 3 lety +22

    I've been in the decentralized community for a while. AtHoc networking is unreliable for the reasons you mentioned but also because lag increases with every hop regardless of distance. GoTenna mesh sought to solve this problem by allowing certain users to act as gateways and then its a matter of connecting gateways. The privacy issue is meant to be solved with encryption, but the low throughput of radio frequency usually encourages non complicated text data only.
    Althea mesh is more of a WiFi router and extender linking project and the mix of these two schools of thought (pocket radio and WiFi linked gateways) may be the best solution to a decentralized trust less network for we'll say protesters as an example.

    • @jeffthompson2464
      @jeffthompson2464 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, protesters AND patriots !!

    • @Nerd2Ninja
      @Nerd2Ninja Před 3 lety +1

      @@jeffthompson2464 You're getting me excited

    • @parishna4882
      @parishna4882 Před 3 lety +4

      @@jeffthompson2464 Patriots will know what they're doing. protestors will just yell at the sky and hope.

    • @salty_armorer4027
      @salty_armorer4027 Před 3 lety +2

      @@parishna4882 I share in your sentiment, but I learned the hard way that you underestimate your enemy at your own peril. By their very nature these far left ideologies require gullible people with the intelligence to be able to understand the doctrine and boil it down to a simpler, more easily digested form for those with average to below average intelligence.

    • @parishna4882
      @parishna4882 Před 3 lety

      @@salty_armorer4027 They basify everything down to a nursery rhyme. I understand this. Kindergarten is where it should begin. by time they reach adulthood, a spanking should no longer be required. Just the fun it was always meant to be.

  • @garwoodgerdes5585
    @garwoodgerdes5585 Před 3 lety +4

    That little hand hoovering over that smart phone had me sooooo confused!!!! Especially when I noticed the big hand holding the phone! WHAT is going on here lol, then my brain caught up.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +5

      It was my little helper. He, of course, also has a little hand ;-)

    • @vocalpatriot
      @vocalpatriot Před 3 lety

      the same thing happened to me!

  • @chadf6900
    @chadf6900 Před 3 lety

    Very well done. I appreciate your video formats

  • @tomtray6277
    @tomtray6277 Před 3 lety

    I've been searching my entire for this type of video. Thanks for the video and the way explain things

  • @MGKday
    @MGKday Před 3 lety +34

    i've been dreaming about this kind of exact solution for years, even thought at some point on getting a radio amateur license ! now i see that...amazing ! my main concern would be the range....basically if no one is in my area, then it's bad luck...

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +9

      As a HAM you have more opportunities, of course...

    • @cryptixdaemon7236
      @cryptixdaemon7236 Před 3 lety +1

      It's making use of existing infrastructure, running as a layer on top of existing smart phones in the surrounding area. So this will not work where there are no other smart phones in the area.

    • @jeffthompson2464
      @jeffthompson2464 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cryptixdaemon7236
      Yeah but realistically, where on this planet are there no cellphones ??

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +3

      The Smartphone uses Bluetooth to connect to the T-Beam. The T-Beams connect using LoRa. No infrastructure needed.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +2

      You can connect a keyboard to the t-beam

  • @zachjohnson818
    @zachjohnson818 Před 3 lety +8

    Love how he says, "it's a no brainer".
    I have a respectably high, IQ and this is definitely a big brain project. Very interesting, especially since it's a stem discipline in which I am not very well educated.
    I also have a comms project in the back of my head that I have pondered on how to execute a few times over the years.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      You are right. The whole project is not simple.

  • @JohnAllen-st1ll
    @JohnAllen-st1ll Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent...!! What an awesome project...

  • @douglasdavidmisascamacho3431

    Man this should be at the end of this decade one of the top techs of the century.

  • @lawrencecole6527
    @lawrencecole6527 Před 3 lety +4

    Cool projects ARE rare hahaha
    this is one gem =D thank you!

  • @pandarojodronero2919
    @pandarojodronero2919 Před 4 lety +18

    it would be interesting to connect the device to a home Wi-Fi router to share the features with any phone connected to your home network.
    this could also be an useful technology in case of riot/revolutions, natural disasters, solar flares, zombie apocalypse, etc

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +4

      These devices can be used for many different scenarios, you are right.

    • @AwesomeCopper
      @AwesomeCopper Před 2 lety

      problem with the solar flare scenario, is unless you build a faraday casing (and at that it must be well built around the chipset only and not the antenna; may interfere with the transmission range overall), the chipset will most likely be destroyed from the EM burst.

    • @DaveSmith-cp5kj
      @DaveSmith-cp5kj Před 2 lety

      I do not consider this technology to be very secure. I would not treat it as an impregnable communication platform for conflicts, only an alternative when the normal telecommunication grid goes down.

  • @julyseng5653
    @julyseng5653 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for enlightenment that we have this technology.

  • @Gandalf-490
    @Gandalf-490 Před 4 lety +2

    You are amazing. I love your videos. I wish you all the best and I am waiting for next videos :)

  • @RTmadnesstoo
    @RTmadnesstoo Před 4 lety +5

    Interesting! They are available on Amazon with the display attached.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +2

      Yes, I know. Also on the other platforms. But you have to solder the displays yourself. Mine came unsoldered.

    • @RTmadnesstoo
      @RTmadnesstoo Před 4 lety +3

      @@AndreasSpiess With all the shutdowns it takes months now to get items from Banggood or Aliexpress but only a week or so from Amazon

    • @arashfaryami
      @arashfaryami Před 3 lety

      I go in now but are o ii it in a while ini

  • @DonPavardenis
    @DonPavardenis Před 4 lety +33

    Bitcoin, now this peer to peer communication device I can finally feel how world is changing :)

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety +20

      Even as a Swiss I like to talk and not only to pay ;-)

    • @gorovitz
      @gorovitz Před 4 lety

      Hmm, we can use this mesh network to transfer bitcoins.

    • @foxbox2879
      @foxbox2879 Před 3 lety

      This seems more open to Sybil attacks than Bitcoin. With 2mb blocks we have radio. Can already send/receive emails over such..

  • @jackass315
    @jackass315 Před 3 lety

    ive been following this idea for a while , with increased density and efficiancy i can see this even turning into a potential floating free internet reminiscent of ham radio fascinating stuff

  • @GlennHamblin
    @GlennHamblin Před 4 lety

    Pretty darn cool. Already thinking of a cross town mesh.

  • @doctordilanka
    @doctordilanka Před 3 lety +4

    Andreas sounds like a young Werner Herzog LMFAO - great video my friend

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +2

      We all speak a germanic language as a base. Arnold Schwarzenegger too...

  • @juangonzalez9848
    @juangonzalez9848 Před 3 lety +164

    “No mass surveillance” followed by “you can see all your friends on a map” are kind of mutually exclusive no?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +44

      No. If you see them does not mean others see them, too.

    • @juangonzalez9848
      @juangonzalez9848 Před 3 lety +40

      Andreas Spiess
      Social engineering, get into friend group of people with this tech. Be able to see all friends. Boom, surveillance. Just saying it’s a vulnerability. If it’s possible, someone will find a way to do it.

    • @raymondbiskner6885
      @raymondbiskner6885 Před 3 lety +48

      @@juangonzalez9848 1. Good luck being an outsider and getting into an inner circle of people paranoid enough to have literally built their own comms network.
      2. By that logic, better not make any friends at all, lest they learn where you live due to a misguided moment of establishing a movie night at your house.

    • @jeffthompson2464
      @jeffthompson2464 Před 3 lety +20

      @@raymondbiskner6885
      There are ways to get into ANY group.
      Ask the cartels how they do it...

    • @juangonzalez9848
      @juangonzalez9848 Před 3 lety +34

      Raymond Biskner
      If it exists, it can be found. If it can be found, it can be infiltrated. Multiple alphabet soup agencies exist to spy on everything that exists. Poor opsec to have it broadcast your location to anyone ever. There is no need for any of my friends to know where I am at any given time. I don’t even have find my iPhone on in the vague hope that it would be harder for someone to track me. When my boss showed me how he could see where his son, daughter, and wife were at any time I reconsidered why I need a smartphone. For now I still have it, but I sure don’t take it everywhere anymore. Now I keep a flip phone to make calls when I want to go incognito. Battery out and simple pay as you go plan. I love the idea of untraceable and uncrackable technology, but then y’all go and put a “here is all of your friends on a map” function like opsec doesn’t exist.

  • @automationtechnologyclub
    @automationtechnologyclub Před 4 lety +1

    This project has been on my list of cool projects for a while now - I placed an ordered over 3 months ago for a couple of the T-Beam boards, and still waiting. There are a number of these type of projects out there.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      I liked this one because its integration into Smartphones... And it is maintained.

  • @poclab
    @poclab Před 3 lety

    I had the same idea a year ago, great to see that smb implementing all that stuff to life, so cool.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      Now it is easier for you...

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 Před 2 lety

      You probably have slightly different ideas that exactly what Meshtastic is doing. (Everyone does.) This is where open source is great! Do those ideas and share!

  • @RedMageGaming
    @RedMageGaming Před 4 lety +17

    I've been looking for something similar to this for my cyberdeck build.

  • @jedimasternoob
    @jedimasternoob Před 3 lety +60

    this could easily be used during war time with proper encryptions.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +26

      I assume they have better (and more expensive) devices.

    • @jedimasternoob
      @jedimasternoob Před 3 lety +25

      @@AndreasSpiess of course they do!! While I was in(radio op/maintainer) they had radio arrays that made this look like smacking two sticks together. I am saying on a large, low budget scale, these could easily be used by gorilla fighters to keep a semblance of organization. I would be surprised if these weren't completely outlawed in the states if the gov couldn't easily find a way to break said encryption.

    • @_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_
      @_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_ Před 3 lety +13

      Joshua Williams While it will be easily decrypted by feds if they wanted too you would just have to go back to using code words for things. I’ve used radio SOP’s on un-encrypted frequencies that would take people a long time to decrypt. One paper on each end, for example: Resupply = AX21, Pick up point= AX45 etc. only need to encrypt key words and words that has essential meaning to the message. Group words in the same category together for easy decryption/encryption.

    • @_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_
      @_R_E_D_A_C_T_E_D_ Před 3 lety +4

      Joshua Williams I’m rambling a bit but I’m sure you catch what I’m putting out :). Have used this method of encryption when being forced to use un-encrypted nets such as civilian radios or phones

    • @PatrickKQ4HBD
      @PatrickKQ4HBD Před 3 lety +3

      This is USA specific, but I imagine that it applies to many other countries too. I heard recently via another YT channel that ANY type of code words or encryption are illegal on ALL publicly available radio bands. Laws are tricky.

  • @PhG1961
    @PhG1961 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome ! Really interesting and worth experimenting !

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      For many of us it is probably more an experiment than a real usage.

  • @1974charrua
    @1974charrua Před 3 lety +2

    Intresting project , i can see how huge transmitting distance and unlimitted power supply can easily be added to this device .

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      Unfortunately, it will not be legal if you do so.

  • @the_luminary
    @the_luminary Před 3 lety +11

    Seriously though, we need more of these kinds of technology more than ever before with all these censorship going on. Its about time we decentralize our need from the megalithic telecom industry. Who agrees?

    • @sophiesmith5922
      @sophiesmith5922 Před 2 lety

      but no one sensors your text messages to and from family and friends, which is all this does. Good to not be spied on by Apple/Google/Amazon, but you have to disconnect all Google apps etc or use different OS not android or ios

    • @the_luminary
      @the_luminary Před 2 lety

      @@sophiesmith5922 hm. Right. Well do u have an alternative?

  • @Suicidekings_
    @Suicidekings_ Před 3 lety +5

    I'd imagine you could hard wire this into a home or vehicles power source to allow for direct communications.

  • @victortorres2080
    @victortorres2080 Před 4 lety +1

    Friend, very good video, first-rate information, thanks for sharing.

  • @silverian
    @silverian Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for interesting LoRa news!

  • @user-yw9yz3sp2k
    @user-yw9yz3sp2k Před 4 lety +3

    Hello Andreas. I'm watching from a long time to your videos and I enjoy your professional styles . Especially because I'm a professional board design engineer with a lot of experience and I'm working and designing complex pcb boards. I don't have the opportunity to write to you in order to express my admiration but now I have a question so I used the opportunity to say you how much I like your channel.
    So now the question. I like the idea of the project from this video and also I know the M5stack project. They have there a Lora stack and ESP32. And now they have a new kit, M5stack faces that look very close to a communication device. So from what I understand will be now problem to make the Lora mesh communication with a M5stack faces and added Lora stack. So what you think about this idea ? If you think it can be possible maybe you can do a video about what to order and how to assemble and program a device like that. What you think about it?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      The Meshtastic projects supports several architectures (this is easy with PlatformIO). So you for sure you have to define the pins used for the LoRa module and maybe change the LCD, if M5stack uses a different one. But it should not be a huge task. All LoRa modulesw seem to be supported.
      For the moment I do not plan another video about tis project.

  • @the_hwyman
    @the_hwyman Před 3 lety +40

    It would be cool to integrate this with ATAK.

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +6

      Maybe you join their project team?

    • @BriceHughes
      @BriceHughes Před 3 lety +14

      Now that ATAK is open source, I'm trying to do just that.

    • @lewerim
      @lewerim Před 3 lety

      Yeees!

    • @Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise
      @Lord_RavnFar_Tannerwise Před 3 lety +6

      They guys on github that created the "freetak" server are working on that and attempting to build it into their server code to be compatible!

  • @paulussantosowidjaja93

    Wow! Will this be our self-reliance kind of BlockChain electronic decentralized communication? Great, we are going to be like those fellow ETs! God bless this project.

  • @ThermalWorld_
    @ThermalWorld_ Před 3 lety

    Andres you highlighted the project I had been thinking about for some time. thanks for showing the project everything is simplified now. in this way you can encrypt the texts of the sms before sending "obviously exchanging the encryption code in the hand with the person you want to communicate" for much more extreme security. Even if someone puts their noses on the network, they still cannot know what is written in the text message

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety

      The key is part of the group name.

    • @ThermalWorld_
      @ThermalWorld_ Před 3 lety

      @@AndreasSpiess Sorry Andreas you are right, I misunderstood what I meant. I meant to use an app in addition to encrypt the text in Wirlpool, Serpent, encryption before sending it in the dedicated App in mesh communication. That's why I said to exchange the key at hand to avoid the transmission of the key in the network mesh. Such a technique is also used in Walkie-talkie radios with text messages. Basically the generated strings of the encrypted text are sent as a normal message. if a stranger looked at the message he would only see strange strings that make no sense

  • @IndianaDundee
    @IndianaDundee Před 3 lety +3

    Where can I find a “plug and play” version? One I can buy and use, no assembly required?

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +3

      I heard that TTGO sells a version with firmware. But I think it is not a product like a Smartphone which just works.

  • @btkramer
    @btkramer Před 3 lety +4

    I still don't understand how these work underground :)

  • @darkmatter5310
    @darkmatter5310 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic, well explained, love concept.

  • @Breakthematrix78
    @Breakthematrix78 Před 3 lety

    I wish I understand stool all the nuts and bolts. The idea is brilliant! Keep up the innovation I would love to see this Takeover

  • @TeamRosengarten
    @TeamRosengarten Před 3 lety +7

    I wish I saw this Video, before I created something similar then this… I also created a mesh implementation, which has the same Features, but it runs on an Arduino Nano...

    • @achromatic.771
      @achromatic.771 Před 3 lety +1

      Oh, interesting, is the code uploaded somewhere?

    • @TeamRosengarten
      @TeamRosengarten Před 3 lety

      Search Facebook for TR - Link... I have an OTA installer for esp32's... The code itself is not public...

  • @surviveandstrive6436
    @surviveandstrive6436 Před 3 lety +23

    The fact that they be were made in silly con valley is concerning.

    • @thorc.f1947
      @thorc.f1947 Před 3 lety +2

      The source code is open and there are a lot of options for hardware. So where is the concern?

  • @YigalBZ
    @YigalBZ Před 4 lety +2

    Great video, very educating. I hope to see the NRF video soon.

  • @deplorablesecuritydevices

    Thanks for the detailed information!

  • @velwheel3135
    @velwheel3135 Před 3 lety +10

    If Sexycyborge is interested is the CCP also involved?

  • @Morcego538
    @Morcego538 Před 3 lety +10

    "No mass surveillance" but you need to use your smartphone...

    • @miguelburgueno4891
      @miguelburgueno4891 Před 3 lety +2

      ...exactly. I don´t like "smartphones". They are "too smart", IMHO... ;)

    • @screwthishi5thing
      @screwthishi5thing Před 3 lety +2

      It can be a disconnected bricked phone. It only works as message input and output because it has a keyboard...

    • @salty_armorer4027
      @salty_armorer4027 Před 3 lety

      @@screwthishi5thing How does that work?

    • @screwthishi5thing
      @screwthishi5thing Před 3 lety +1

      @@salty_armorer4027 how would someone track you if you're not connected to a regular cellular network? They couldn't. You'd only be using your phone as a terminal for the mesh.

    • @salty_armorer4027
      @salty_armorer4027 Před 3 lety

      @@screwthishi5thing I'm under the impression that a bricked phone can't do anything except 911 calls, so how do you get the app required for proper function downloaded onto to a bricked phone?

  • @nagaprasadprakash828
    @nagaprasadprakash828 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting In fact might be the right solution for certain Industries !!

  • @sgsudhir_
    @sgsudhir_ Před 4 lety +2

    Hmm Informative one. Thanks for sharing

  • @Calccis
    @Calccis Před 3 lety +4

    Do you need to share your location with this?
    "Hard to track"

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 3 lety +3

      No

    • @parishna4882
      @parishna4882 Před 3 lety

      as far as i could tell, if you don't have your gps on, the device defaults to it's own location. It only shares your absolute location if you intend it to?
      I could be wrong though....

    • @KJ-xt3yu
      @KJ-xt3yu Před 3 lety

      In the configs you can also look into changing the hardware utilization...i mean you own the hardware, why not do some debugging and test it and let us know ;)

  • @D.E.Middleton
    @D.E.Middleton Před 3 lety

    That’s just how I would do it.
    Nice work.

  • @dbagnis
    @dbagnis Před rokem

    Amazing Video!!!...Thank you very much!!..

  • @HelmutTschemernjak
    @HelmutTschemernjak Před 4 lety

    Another board option, our new Turtle LoRa Board uses an STM32L4 being able to run up to 10 years on AAA batteries. This would qualify for something like this.
    Now the interesting part, we at RadioShuttle.de (new business organisation applied last month) working on a LoRa messenger. It is based on the Turtle board with a buzzer and gets connected to a Smartphone via an OTG cable. This allows pretty much private peer to peer messenger chat communication. The LoRa board works stand alone and beeps when a message for you or a group broadcasts arrives. We are looking for more than month of uptime for the messenger boards, once something arrives, connect your smartphone as a user interface device for the messenger (no WLAN, LTE, BLE, can work in airplane mode).
    The idea is, that this allows emergency communication, when nothing else works e.g. outage, areas with no coverage, etc.
    Great video like always, thank you
    Regards from Arduino Hannover & www.radioshuttle.de
    Helmut
    PS: The legal part of this topic is some more complex, I heard that the US arrested an Canadien company owner because he build a truly private Android phone with encryption. My opinion is that we should have a right of privacy, which is given by law, however the governments like to ensure that they can spy everyone (without court orders).

    • @AndreasSpiess
      @AndreasSpiess  Před 4 lety

      Great! OTG was also discussed for this video. It saves the need for BLE but maybe is a little uncomfortable for use I also think there are two use cases: One for short events where speed is more important than battery life. And another where your focus is where long standby times are more important.
      BTW: I like the idea of a "buzzer".