Testing the RM338: The 50 CAL Replacement with Unbelievably Light Recoil
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M2: "You can't do this to me... YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED!?" 😔
This ⬆️
No it's a compliment. This weapon wouldn't happen with everything the 50 did. It laid the ground work. It's a compliment to Browning
"Sure Grandpa, let's get you back to the armory."
@@andysmith5220 I didn't think of it that way. Good take brother!
This is real life, guns don't have brains with emotions
The masculine urge to mount this to the top of my stairs pointing at the front door is crazy rn.
Talley ho, lads
Just as the founding fathers intended
Just needs to be on a turret. May need to swing around to the living room window? Possibly the garage door? Master bedroom? Who knows?😂
@@wildcat8598 Build a rail system so you can transfer it to any fixed position in the house.
Wtf? Are you a PDF file?
As a former M60/M240 machine gunner, I am really impressed by this machine gun. Honestly, having a folding but stock is brilliant for anyone under 6ft humping a machine gun around. Thanks for showing this impressive weapon. Unfortunately, since this appears to perform so well, it is doubtful the US Military, especially the Army, will ever select this weapon.
I bet if they go cheap on the barrels and give that bad boy cheap ammo, it'll be military grade in no time.
The problem isn't that it performs so well, the problem is it probably costs more than competitors and also isn't made by Sig Sauer . . .
I know the military industrial complex and US military/government contracts & contractors have always had shady deals but the one with Sig might actually be the most blatant in recent times.
Hilarious
Not enough Generals own stock in the company to "win" the contract.
@@CommanderLongJohnit’s craaaazy. All the duty pistol issues and the XM7 is still…nowhere to be seen chambered in .277 furryf*cker or whatever they called it.
Honestly, getting a bit worried. Boeing, sig, every SINGLE vehicle made in this country.
Not a good look.
German Ex machinegunner here: When i was in the service, whenever we were allowed to hip-fire the mg3, we called it "Hollywood-Style", "Ami-Style" (ami for american) or simply Rambo-Style.So i had a good laugh at the Rambo-comment. But that shit was 7.62 ! Incredible that you can fire a round like this from the hip without doing a backflip. Still wouldn't wanna carry that shit for 10 hours.
It's crazy to me how much suppressors have become such a common thing. Soon it'll be weird to not have one on a fighting weapon
agreed sir
I find it so stupid that countries that have overwhelmingly strict gun laws treat suppressors like safety equipment. while in America they are seen as the magic tube that makes a gun completely silent.
@@connertomaterhater6691lol wierd schizo rant but okay
@@chocov5183 Is he wrong?
@@chocov5183Glowie
Engage targets out to 5400m…that’s almost 5.5km brings a new meaning to “go ahead and run, you’ll just die tired.”
You missed a call from Mr. Coriolis
@@glandhound accuracy by volume has entered the chat. :)
@@violenceandpoetry
"It's a machine gun!"
@@violenceandpoetryarea effect entered the chat.
CRACKCRACKCRACK
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bup bup bup
30% less moving parts than an M240 mean it's at least 30% more reliable than an M240 as the more moving parts create more chances of reliability problems. I'm impressed with this weapon. I wish it was available in Afghanistan it would have helped us a lot as the terrain was so difficult. It's great to be able to take that kind of firepower anywhere on foot without wheels. Great demo, thanks.
Statistically, yes. But every machine has a weakest point or highest vulnerability. It's how well those are mitigated. The 240 sets the bar pretty high, so even matching that would be impressive.
This gun looks like it would’ve been nice in Afghanistan
Not necessarily. That 30% could only be responsible for 5% of issues. It’s not 1-1 at all
As a former 240B gunner I think I'm in love. The new kids don't know how good they got it ;)
Dude spent more money on ammo during the first slow mo clip than most people spend at an entire range day.
Brought to you by the Sonoran Desert Institute.
Dude shot more money worth of ammo in this video than most people spend on guns and ammo combined in a year.
He spends more on these videos then I would spend on any woman no matter how good her head game is
He has sponsers, they give him the ammo for free.
Do you all know how sponsorships work??
“Raw Milk” Jones is making those 338s look like 5.56s.
Ummmm... actually, that's a .338 Norma magnum, and he's on TREN. Soo...
@@necrondl missed the joke and was a smartass, thats rough man
The RawMilk338
only the best raw milk
Seeing a lot of raw milk jokes recently has thumb hopped onto a cycle recently
This presents me with a difficult choice. I only have room left on my mancave wall for two Javelin missiles and one of those robot dogs with the mounted rifle, but I want one of these on display, too.
build a kennel for the robro
mount this behemoth on the robo...
That slow mo was epic. The music, everything.
Really want to know what that music was
Me too
“Weak rounds like .308 and .556”…..you made my AR and Sako cry at the same time man.
Like a roided up body builder hating on nattys lol
What cartridge is .556?
@@senseiptstop acting like a liberal.
Crybabies! 🫵😂
@@senseipt light-fifty necked-up? :p Use your imagination, mate! Since it's obviously impossible that this was a typo. :)
Perfect timing for this video, guys. For anyone who doesn't know, True Velocity just filed a lawsuit against Sig alleging the theft of trade secrets for the recoil mitigation technology used in this gun. This MG, and its internal recoil system, were initially developed by General Dynamics. You can actually see General Dynamics' name on the side plate at 0:20. The lead design engineer of this MG and its internal recoil system worked at GD for nearly 20 years. He then went to Sig in 2014. Just four years later, Sig had their own .338 belt-fed MG built and ready to enter into the US military competition. Now Sig is being sued for (allegedly) stealing the design of the recoil mitigation system used in their .338 MG.
Interesting
I hate sig already. Thank you for keeping the trend going!
The designer swapped over to sig. @bigk4026
Interesting. Maybe that’s partly why it seems like this MG has superior recoil mitigation when compared to the Sig.
remember never drop sig pistols xD
The ballistic gel test is three nightmares rolled into one package. Man, that's not a bad day when you're shot by one of those things, that's a whole extinction event!
Lol, totally. It was almost difficult to watch XD
You're gettin real good at these edits, Micah!
The way you say “ You ready buddy?” to Micah is endearing almost like your teaching one of your kids to ride a bike ❤
17:15 in a military context, the primary goal of a suppressor is eliminating muzzle flash, sound is really secondary to that at least in a military context. Operate at night and honestly, sound isn't what is going to give you away, but the muzzle flash is. Sound reverberates, and if you operate in a valley or on the mountains, the noise is going to sound like its coming from all directions, and in any suitably built up environemnt, or an ambush with more than one base of fire, the enemy is going to struggle to locate concealed firers from sound alone. Signature supression, and the signature that will allow the enemy to get rounds into your fleshy bits is a super bright flash accurately showing where your rifle is.
Good points.
Not having tinnitis would be nice
A suppressor changes the acoustics and the balance of the gun as well. It mitigates pressure waves so it does have an effect on accuracy (usually negative) but if it was REALLY well engineered...
In a military context, absolutely. I mean, you wouldn’t want muzzle flash, in a military context….militarily speaking…in a military context…
@@carpentryandguns6752 Militarily speaking of course. Muzzle flash bad, dying bad. Tube make gun quiet, less dead.... Militarily of course.
WOW, what recoil??? That was tame AF!!! Ease of barrel changes are are awesome!!!😯
Watched a lot of channels over the years and a lot of em kind of plateau but not garand thumb just keeps getting better
Really love that slow mo of the cases flying and the links coming apart.
*don’t read my name* 🌛
It literally blew the lungs out of his body
Light recoil or Garand thumb doesnt notice it with the "Milk" superpowers
At least he admits it🤣 most mfs are like “ UM NO IM ACTUALLY JUST EATING REALLY GOOD”
@@pablo4yu Oh he admitted it? I don't watch his stuff regularly but one day I noticed his face shape adjusted to that of Connor McGregor and the day after that he was suddenly huge.
@@angryzergling7832he made a joke about drinking lots of milk about a year ago and administrative results video he reiterated what he is taking in a few segments when micah made fun of him
@@angryzergling7832 i mean honestly who cares bruh good for him to stay in shape. Its not the 70s anymore where steroids make ur peen small and make u aggressive… the new stuff is actually good for you IN MODERATION!!! you have guys that are 50-60 with the body of a 30 year old and basically no side effects i mean some heart stuff but yk
Dude those slowmo shots into the ballistic gel blocks were GNARLY!!!!!
Sweet MG! Love the RM!
I love how the grip/trigger looks like it came off an early 2000’s brass eagle paintball gun 😂
That's what I was thinking, it looks like they took a standard lower and cut it and put a much bigger gun on top just for a trigger
How? Lol it's not a double trigger, and if you mean the old single-shot looking ones with the wood grips, the trigger guard on those is way smaller. The grip is an AR-style pistol grip, and the trigger guard on this gun is almost exactly the same as an MG42/MG3 German LMG. Closer to the MG3 because the MG3 is the modernized version of the MG42.
The little recoil is nutty
its actually insane. Couldn’t believe it
@@GarandThumb have you EVER found an LMG or any comparable recoil in an automatic?
A suppressor is like 70% effective as a muzzle brake in reducing felt recoil considering that SIG "allegedly" copied their recoil system lol.
for real, i think the m2 is super cool for the history, but to be honest its a pain in the ass compared to every other machine gun in the armory. squize the trigger and your sight pictures gone instantly, and even if it weren't, all you'd see smoke anyway. i'm glad were finally looking into modern options for replacement.
Facts @@bobsaggater3454, I think it will always serve a purpose though
Man that high speed of the .338 zipping through the gel is just mint, my guys. Really great.
I had the pleasure of dealing with Byron at Delta P years ago. I found him very knowledgeable and a man with a passion for what he does. Great guy. Super interesting ideas.
I can’t wait to get my hands on the parts kits in 50 years
ABSOLUTELY INSANE! that torso was EXPLODING with every hit! 😮
Holy cow, at 3:42 is the same intro theme as the Word War 2 CZcams channel. Nice touch
The slow-mo gel-shot music is pretty sweet. Adds a ton of drama to the moment.
"recoil mitigation" is a funny way of saying "I drink White monster before breakfast"
I mean I do.
for* breakfast
@@codysmith6617 if god didnt want me to drink them, then Why do they fit perfectly into my webbings magazine pouch.
The choice and editing of music in the ballistic gel section was really well done.
It was a tad loud though compared to the rest of the video.
Agreed I'd like the source of the music.
Damnnnnnnnn.....I do not want to get hit by 338!!! That was violent. Also great dad advice, I actually needed that reminder today! Great job guys, video was awesome as always!
brother this would have been perfect for my last deployment. My gunners couldnt hit $hit with the 50 and actually had some "over penetration issues" but the 240 just didnt have the stopping power we wanted running the streets in the trucks.
Best looking .338 so far. Beautiful design, but the cherry on top is the recoil mitigation hands down must have.
Agreed. It kinda looks like a yoked out 240
It's the suppressor that took out most of the recoil, sig didn't have a suppressor wacked on it.
That round is extremely violent, and I am all for it! Another awesome episode.
Can't wait to see more tests and maybe get my hands on one myself!
The colour is really good in this video
Great work all round guys!
The colors in this video made me feel like I needed to drink a liter and start force hydrating from there.
aimbotting with the .50 goes crazy
*don’t read my name* 🌛
12.7 x 99 go BRRRRRRTTT
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture_too bad i did
COME ON MAN REAL TAWK, he was aimbotting - wings
@@thebadlander3608.50 bmg is better than 12.7
The torch has been passed to a new generation.
sig btfo once again. can whoever is on their payroll in the top brass retire already so we can get some good things in the military?
Literally that “press in” for the barrel change is “priceless”.
I like the rate of fire, fast enough to do some area denial, but slow enough to not lose accuracy. The interrupted thread barrel change system seems pretty cool, too. Direct fire with that thing against the torso made me think "LOAC violation"!
338 is a great choice for military use, but people need to stop acting like it's going to replace anti-material rounds. .50 bmg and up are different animals for different uses.
It just depends on what other tools are available. Maybe we'll see a focus on guns for anti-personnel and small cheap rockets/drones for anti-material purposes.
this looks like it has the balistics to chew through most lightly armored vehicles the US employs itself (HMMV, JLTV, possibly the weaker bits on the bradley, and stryker/LAV) the ma deuce will definitely still serve it's own purpose but i can see this being mounted on more combat vehicles and infinitely more at the platoon, squad etc... level, an ambush with 3 of these properly set up would be terrifying against a battalion's worth of troops, and at range, with accuracy, the 240B and 249 just cant do that.
240b surgeon here! Im jealous of that gun! No more worrying about trigger sear and the run away.
Why do you call yourself a surgeon
@@jason200912you might as well need to be one with the atrocities they go through on the field
@@nean9894 does the 240b break constantly
The 2nd shot on the ballistics gel was pretty impressive. Pretty impressive.
One of few weapon platforms that is truly game changing. Amazing weapon system, so cool.
Goddamn man... the slo mo of the guy behind cover is so violent lol. That very first round was more than enough even after ripping through concrete.
I appreciate the drip in this video dad, truly a camo of friendship and back hugs
That round was devastating on that zombie torso wow and the range too.
The second round into the torso 😳😳 what a powerhouse of a round wow
Love the editing as always. The music drops at the right place are always perfect
All the cool kids know where to go at noon (EST) on a Sunday!
*don’t read my name* 🌛
It's 9 here on the west coast. Just right lol
…EDT
We’re Never too old and You mean 5:15 pm UTC. 🤣😂🤣
@@MyCoolFish I stand corrected, but I'm sure we can all agree that daylight savings time needs to not be a thing anymore, amirite?
The best design I have seen in a long time. I am curious as to how the recoil mitigation system works. I was in from 1972 to 1975 (Army), then from 1998 to 2015 (Navy & Marine Corps). So I was well versed on the M240 and the M60, which I preferred over the 240. The reason being, it had a spring and buffer, like the M16/M4, which greatly mitigated the recoil in the same way. This is the reason it is used by certain units, like the Seals, and it is used, not as a crew serve weapon, but by a lone operator.
I've never seen a gun I want so much before.
I was in love with my 240b while I was deployed, but this is just...beautiful.
The sound music and editing on this video is phenomenal. You guys keep getting better.
music name?
My god that machine gun is beautiful.Its like sniping in Battlefield 4 with a machine gun but IRL.
very entertaining plus good information, thank you.
23:27 seeing the trigger pull really shows how much force that recoil mitigation has to counter the recoil. Really awesome tech!
holy smokes that how it works, I was trying my best to guess how they managed such light recoil lol
Balistic torsos in wood chipper video when
Full body feet first
Strange way to say pedophiles
@@cokinator100ify 100%
@@cokinator100ifyI'm in on this, fellas!
13:05
@ 7:48
Controlled walking fire from a 3 mile effective M/HMG
Outstanding.
Damn, this is cool. I wish it was around when I was hauling around the M240B...20 years ago.
There's more weapon movement from the whipping around of the ammo belt than there is from the firing itself. Impressive.
M2 is immortal and will not be replaced anytime soon
Right? this thing a toy compared to the M2.
@@SoloRenegadey’know that’s not really a negative when you can carry it around and not the .50.
The weight difference between the two is too big to ignore
Just like the 1911 lol
@@ronaldmcreagann6343 proving my point, this will never replace the .50, it will replace the M240.
Personally, I'd take the Ohio Ordnance Reaper over this thing, but not to replace the M2, I'd still have the M2 as well.
Loved your range day video that you just did with admin. Hope to see more like it. Just showed yall goofin
''Redbone - Come and Get Your Love'' on background its just perfect!!
Looks like a stamped metal upper...Can't wait for the flats to hit market ;)
Lately, you guys have been making the best videos and showcasing more interesting weapons than anyone else on CZcams. Thanks a lot!
Great Dad Advice at the end there! Also, WANT! Especially after seeing that damage to Gary!
The recoil is ridiculous..let alone seeing y’all walk and fire…WOW.
After seeing the hits on the ballistic dummy it really puts into perspective how powerful this is. More damage than the 12g slugs at 600 rpm with almost no vertical/horizontal recoil.
I love this channel! Thank you for all the information and laughs!
My new EDC
Good choice my man 🤙
Will it fit in my CC holster? Answer plz.
I was thinking this would make a good truck gun.
This video right is the epitome of a review. 5 stars given
Honestly as a former m249 and m240B gunner, this thing looks next level. Love the fixed picatinny rail and the folding stock. Just about the only thing i'd change is the backwards barrel handle. On the m249 and m240 they face to the rear which is really handy when you want to change barrels from behind the gun. Other than that it looks awesome!
Perfect timing. I was right on the edge of buying one or two and this review has tip the scale for me. Order placed.
excuse me??? you bought one or TWO of these RM338 LMGs ?!?!?!? WHAT... THATS POSSIBLE?!?!
AND WHY TWO!?!?!
@@SafeSpaceGaming1hey, everyone needs a friend!
@@bluecaptainIT 🤣🤣🤣
@@bluecaptainIT, or two
These videos remind me of those 00s History Channel shows where they showed off stuff like Dragon Skin armor and the 6.8 SPC round
We really screwed up in not adopting the 6.8.
Future weapons
This seems so much better than the Sig 338 in every way, especially recoil-wise. I think this will have a hard uphill battle against the Sig, especially with the M240 being replaced with the Sig XM250, which has a similar manual of arms, but I wish RM the best of luck.
For barrel change they should make the lead in on the piston longer than the barrel so you're not lining up both at the same time, would make it much less fiddle under pressure or where you need to keep low and can't get above the barrel to fiddle about.
The visceral shots on Uncle Gary(me too) were what I expected but more than I hoped for. Crazy good footage. Thank you for sharing.
That's insane. Loving the new round. That ballistic dummy gave a new meaning to blowing your back out
Great work!
I love the test with the cinder block cover. Stop the frame at 13:30 and see the 10 inch hole blown out the back. Reminds me of target practice with 338. After going through a bale of hay and a 9 inch log(weather worn), it hit a young tree about 2 inches in diameter and completely severed it. I wish I had video. The top of the tree landed vertically on the ground and slowly leaned and fell over. It was nearly like a slow-motion picture-perfect moment. With the RM338 imagine what it would do to cover with alternating rounds of armor piercing rounds loaded in the belt. I would love to see that on tougher cover.
I have an idea for a new video. An EXPENSIVE idea. A very expensive idea. One that would require even a big gun channel like yours to ask the manufacturers for loaners.
Because my idea is simple: which "Tier 1" AR-15 is the best? Is it the Sig MCX Spear LT, X2 ARX light fighter, V seven sovereign, LMT R20, LWRCI IC-A5, KAC KS-1, Blackout Defense Quantum DTL, BG Defense Type A, H&K MR223, or maybe even the PWS Mk1 mod 2 Or Radian Model 1? That is quite possibly the most pricy comparison video, but one that should happen, as most of us could afford only one of those in a lifetime. So we better make the best and most informed choice possible.
You could onestly include the nasty ice and mud testing. But none of us mere peasants could afford to do this test.
Noveske?
MCX Spear isn’t really an AR
i say he does a video on the knock off "mcx's" like the jakl, Fm15, brn 180.. i think im forgetting a few
@@thebadlander3608 close enough to warrant the comparison. Quite a few of those rifles are piston operated and thus somewhat of an AR-18, yet many keep the buffer tube, so not completely AR-18.
I like this ..as someone who used the M2 and the 240 in country..this looks awesome.. light package with superior fire ..cant argue esp no head spacing bullshit I like it
You really upped you slow motion scenes perfectly timed music to the bullet impact
That round on gel was gnarly
The editing is awesome in all these videos. Give the editor a raise man.
Isn't Micah also the editor?
Yes, Micah edits the videos
Good lord!
That 3rd round on the dummy was insane!!
1st and 2nd were crazy, too.
i wasnt ready, that was incredibly violent.
Go Micha! Redeemed. Rock on gents. Sweet rig.🤘🇺🇸
That is sick!? Awesome!! 🤘
GODDAMNIT SNORIN DESERTED INDIGENOUS WHERE'S MY CHARLIE
Currently grounded for pooping in the house
The M4 and M2 will be in service long after we are gone.
I've never seen Mr. Garands tattoos before, wild.
the back tracks for this video are dope
Thanks guys for the upload always killer never filler 👍
On a no repeat Sunday. All the hits.
I doubt the M2 will ever go away BUT I can see a .338 tsking over a lot of general purpose heavy machineguns uses.
This video got me all bricked up! Music goes hard AF!
Absolutely AWESOME!!!!