Greenhouse or polytunnel, pros and cons for propagation and growing

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  • čas přidán 5. 12. 2018
  • Which grows best plants, which is best for heat-loving plants, which suffers less pests, and which offers value for money.
    I compare my wooden greenhouse (2013) and older (2002) polytunnel.
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    Videography at Homeacres 16th October 2018 by David Adams, editing by him also.
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Komentáře • 377

  • @DANIEL-ls5ku
    @DANIEL-ls5ku Před 5 lety +31

    I swear I though I'm watching a TV gardening show, very well presented.

  • @luckychicav7981
    @luckychicav7981 Před 5 lety +43

    Polytunnel is practical and more affordable, but that greenhouse of yours is so Beautiful!! Thank you for the pros and cons of both, much appreciated!

  • @gardeningindalmatia3434
    @gardeningindalmatia3434 Před 5 lety +4

    You are such a inspiration Charles! You are one of the people who inspired us (2 young guys from Croatia) to start our own composting and no-dig market gardening practices here in sunny Dalmatia. We just posted first video just to get a hang of it and will make sure to post more on no dig market gardening, making compost, keeping chickens and much more.. Cheers everyone!

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +2

      Lovely to hear and well done, that sounds so worthwhile.
      I had Croatian tv here in October 2017 and they made a film about no dig, said it's popular in Croatia - Vrtlarica.

    • @gardeningindalmatia3434
      @gardeningindalmatia3434 Před 5 lety +2

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig Nice! I saw Vrtlarica episodes, they are very nicely made and filled with broad content regarding gardening in general.

  • @wwsuwannee7993
    @wwsuwannee7993 Před 5 lety +42

    Keeping several 55 gallon drums painted black and filled with water to absorb the small light in winter, really helped on the tunnel I had once. They would radiate back the heat at night and made a difference.

    • @JNYC-gb1pp
      @JNYC-gb1pp Před 4 lety +1

      why do people paint them instead of just getting a black one? Does paint introduce unwanted chemicals into the water and then into your plant bed?

    • @matthewfarrell317
      @matthewfarrell317 Před 4 lety +7

      @@JNYC-gb1pp Generally its cost, you can get food-grade barrels/drums for really cheap, but they are usually blue (at least the ones near me). You paint them black on the outside and you can store heat from the sun, as black absorbs more of the energy. The water never touches the paint so no issue. Also if you use water-based paint generally they are non-toxic.
      If you fear chemicals then I can't help you on that one.

    • @user-tp7uq1cn4v
      @user-tp7uq1cn4v Před 3 lety +9

      In Southern Siberia, where we live, the vegetation period is less than 6 months, and greenhouses and poly-tunnels are a must to grow any vegs. So we always use water barrels inside.

    • @user-tp7uq1cn4v
      @user-tp7uq1cn4v Před 3 lety +8

      We also build smaller cold-frames right on plant beds, and heat them with water-bottles until the threat of night-frosts is over.

  • @OriginalRaveParty
    @OriginalRaveParty Před 5 lety +48

    I'm really happy to see that you're almost at 100,000 subscribers, and right before Christmas.
    A few months into 2019 you should receive a new addition for your office wall. A silver play button from CZcams.
    Well deserved, for being the best gardening channel on CZcams :)

  • @Serendipity_Strawberry_Farm

    Sending you my love as you go through this final journey with your dear mum. She is loved and in your care and that is the most important thing for her and for you. She will enjoy that delicious looking pot roast too xx

  • @williamvillar7134
    @williamvillar7134 Před 3 lety +4

    I'm new to poly tunnel and greenhouse gardening. I've always wanted one, so my wife found a poly tunnel kit we couldn't turn down but it is massive. Still wrapping my head around all of this but I'm in a better place than I was before now that I have it. Always a joy to watch your videos, Charles!

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 3 lety +2

      That sounds very exciting William, and a steep learning curve, which will also I am sure give you some lovely results.

  • @TonyCSmith
    @TonyCSmith Před 5 lety +74

    Hey Charles just want to say a massive thank you for bringing your NO Dig to us all and showing how it works. It so works! Thank you. All your time and effort are so appreciated. You have inspired me to document my No Dig efforts on CZcams with my own channel!. Keep doing what you are doing... thank you so much. Tony

    • @amyhenry2307
      @amyhenry2307 Před 5 lety +2

      Tony C Smith Hi tony ! Been following your videos too ! Love what your doing keep up the good work 👍🏼

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +5

      Thanks and well done Tony

    • @JNYC-gb1pp
      @JNYC-gb1pp Před 4 lety +1

      Chiropractors don't like no dig; terrible for their business.

  • @pawelmatus
    @pawelmatus Před 5 lety +23

    The man, the legend, Charles Dowding.

  • @tannenbaum3444
    @tannenbaum3444 Před 5 lety +3

    Just a quick comment about ventilation and the gap on top of the tunnel....here in Minnesota USA, last week our temperature has been -55F with the windchill(-53C) with -29F (-34C) real temperature, growing in an unheated tunnel here in the winter is virtually impossible, let alone having an air gap for ventilation, that is pretty much normal for us in January here kn MN. It would require double layer of plastic cover, then an enclosure inside, and a cover over the crop, to possibly, maybe, grow a cool season crop. This just a quick update on what other gardeners are confronted with in other parts of the world....love your channel and enjoy watching all the individual details of your presentations.

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +2

      Thanks for the info tennenbaum, wow what a difference and a challenge.

    • @tannenbaum3444
      @tannenbaum3444 Před 5 lety

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig thank you for your kind reply...we're still experiencing temperatures in the single digits (F) at night with -25 F windchills, and we have about 4 ft. of snow on the ground, and mountains of it left and right of the driveway to our house. Luckily we have a heavy duty snow plow which blows it up and away very efficiently. We will plant out end of May, (Memorial Day), as the soil isn't warm enough until then, and we still get freezes in May. Your videos showing indoor seed starting are helpful and I use your sowing techniques, then everything goes under racks with growlights until they can be hardened off and planted. Planning this process is important, so we ard ready to plant out as soon as possible, because we have a relatively short growing season. We can see our first frost middle to end of September and from there the cycle gets colder and colder until the next year about this time. I do plan to install a greenhouse this spring...hoping I can extend the growing season a little bit longer and starting sooner in Spring.
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  • @LauraTeAhoWhite
    @LauraTeAhoWhite Před 5 lety +11

    I'm a fan of green houses, I've worked with Poly Tunnels in the past on a commercial farm. The draw back of Poly Tunnels is that they're prone to collapsing in areas that have regular high winds or snowfall. Yes greenhouses are more expensive, but they last longer and are far easier to maintain.

    • @dave4728
      @dave4728 Před 5 lety +1

      Not always. I have a Greenhouse and Polly tunnel. My Polly is 6 years old now and has had no damage whatsoever, whilst in that same timescale I've had a aluminium and glass greenhouse that lost 30% of its panels in 3 years so was replaced with an aluminium and polycarbonate one which blew away the first winter and now a aluminium and poly one that's been especially designed for high wind areas which has sill had the door and a window blown off (the window got so smashed up that its now unusable). I also find keeping the poly tunnel clean a lot easier than the greenhouse

    • @JoshStobart
      @JoshStobart Před 5 lety +5

      @@dave4728 you should build your greenhouse 1 meter down with a geothermal system and windbreaks that are far enough away to avoid casting shade on your greenhouse. That way you should reduce the damage you'll take from high winds. To negate the loss of light from building the greenhouse deeper than the soil level, you'll need a northern wall that reflects light back down onto the beds.
      I feel your pain though, I am in an area where 130k/ph storms are basically a yearly occurrence now and there isn't much land or forest to protect us from the more regular 80kph or more winds that tend to really make growing and owning any kind of building difficult. We will be reinforcing our greenhouse when we build it with more wind-resistant materials.
      There's a guy in Alliance, Nebraska that does the geothermal greenhouse really well if you want to look into it. there's a youtube video of it. He grows citrus in an area where it reaches -40C

  • @ximono
    @ximono Před rokem +2

    I think it may be the wood that holds in the heat overnight, rather than the glass. Not only is wood a good insulator, it's also good at absorbing/storing heat and releasing it over night.

  • @patricialumpkin2204
    @patricialumpkin2204 Před 5 lety +4

    Gush I was going to say tomatoes in December, ah ok this vid was made in October. My poly tunnels are full of lettuces and chinese cabbages. Juste finished eating our last melon (old variety, boule d'or) this week, it was juicy and sweet, amazing, I shall grow a lot more next year. Many many thanks I always loved gardening but with your method I love it even more. Love and light

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +1

      Lovely to hear from you Patricia and Joyeux Noel with many lettuce leaves!

  • @adus123
    @adus123 Před 5 lety +4

    I built my polytunnel using 40mm plastic waste pipe a wooden frame all way round its about 4.5m wide by 6m the 40mm plastic waste pipe makes the hops fixed to the wooden frame. this is my 3rd generation of polytunnel. The last 2 I buried the plastic but found it hard to get a consistent good tension on the plastic. So this time i made a baserail that I can tension myself from inside. The plastic starts a foot of the ground and used black woven weed membrane buried in to the soil to help it breathe a little bit better. with to doors either end. o and I wrapped all the wooden posts in shrinkwrap parcel wrap below ground to prevent rotting. It all works very will cost about £400 about 3 years ago.

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +2

      You are a craftsman Adrian

    • @alph8654
      @alph8654 Před 5 lety

      Here in the U.S.A. i have 2 poly tunnels. I and many others that have polytunnels use z channel and wiggle wire to hold our plastic in place. You screw the z channel to the wood or metal and then stretch your plastic a few inches below the z channel and then put the wiggle wire in the z channel and it holds the plastic in place. I grow in Tennessee, which is upper south east U. S. It can get pretty warm here in the summer. My sides go up about 4 ft before curving to the other side. Using the Z channel and wiggle wire i can take the plastic down on each side and also a opening about 10 ft wide and 7 ft high on each end. Then i can grow tomatoes, eggplant, peppers and other warm weather crops in it. Put the plastic back on late fall and grow spinach, lettuce, beets carrots, etc in the fall and winter and early spring. It is not hard to take down the plastic and put back up. Does not take a lot of time either. I do not know if you have access to anything like that in the UK. One polytunnel is 16x34 and the other is 24x 48. I really do like them very much. Here is a link to where you can take a look at it if interested or curious. www.buildmyowngreenhouse.com/wigglewirepolylock.aspx

  • @paulsaxby7579
    @paulsaxby7579 Před 5 lety +11

    I've just bought my first ever polytunnel, thanks to your wonderful advice when Alison and I came on your course in September. I can't wait to get started with it.

  • @rd4469
    @rd4469 Před 5 lety +3

    CONGRATULATIONS on reaching 101k subscribers just 6 days after you released this video!!!
    Well deserved.

  • @przybyla420
    @przybyla420 Před 3 lety +1

    I paused this video at 7:34, came back a minute later and suddenly realized how the hanging gardens of Babylon must have worked. Nice tomatoes vines!

  • @gratituderanch9406
    @gratituderanch9406 Před 5 lety +4

    We cover our 8 x 3 raised beds with hoop houses, basically Minnie Polly tunnels. Make sure you get the better quality PVC pipe as it can snap. And we find that for cold hardy plants the hoop houses don’t prevent Frost, but they help warm enough that a lot of our plants over winter and we can harvest throughout the winter, and get a Headstart in spring

  • @jacolynsorchids1361948friends

    All that natural good food, must help with all the energy! you have Your channel is an education to even us older gardeners, wish I found it sooner

  • @GrownToCook
    @GrownToCook Před 5 lety +7

    Great overview, Charles! We eventually settled on a greenhouse with aluminium frame (we're not allowed to put in a foundation on our plot). It’s our second winter having a greenhouse and already we’re making a much better use of the space. But there’s always room for improvement, so thank you for all the inspiration!

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +1

      Nice to hear that Vera and well done.
      No foundation is better for the soil!

  • @TheAncientBiker
    @TheAncientBiker Před 5 lety +3

    I've started with an allotment first time this year in March and find your videos so helpful including this one - thank you.

  • @TAMSTERMAN
    @TAMSTERMAN Před 2 lety

    Really appreciate your openness about the costs of the structures says a lot about yourself and your values.. I’m sure if I met you face to face you’d tell me your bank balance as I would tell you mine.. anyone watching who wouldn’t / can’t POSSIBLY has too much…………….

  • @alph8654
    @alph8654 Před 5 lety +3

    Hi Charles - Thanks for your many informative videos. I am in my second season of no dis and love it. Here in the U.S.A. i have 2 poly tunnels. I and many others that have polytunnels use z channel and wiggle wire to hold our plastic in place. You screw the z channel to the wood or metal and then stretch your plastic a few inches below the z channel and then put the wiggle wire in the z channel and it holds the plastic in place. I grow in Tennessee, which is upper south east U. S. It can get pretty warm here in the summer. My sides go up about 4 ft before curving to the other side. Using the Z channel and wiggle wire i can take the plastic down on each side and also a opening about 10 ft wide and 7 ft high on each end. Then i can grow tomatoes, eggplant, peppers and other warm weather crops in it. Put the plastic back on late fall and grow spinach, lettuce, beets carrots, etc in the fall and winter and early spring. It is not hard to take down the plastic and put back up. Does not take a lot of time either. I do not know if you have access to anything like that in the UK. One polytunnel is 16x34 and the other is 24x 48. I really do like them very much. Here is a link to where you can take a look at it if interested or curious. www.buildmyowngreenhouse.com/wigglewirepolylock.aspx

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety

      Alan I am grateful for your comment, and your crops sound amazing.
      I had somehow not heard of wiggle wire and it looks really good, I have found it's available in the UK www.northernpolytunnels.co.uk/w-wire-wiggle-wire-polythene-fixing-system.html

  • @timwherry
    @timwherry Před 5 lety +4

    Hey Charles. Nice comparisons. I passed on your no dig home and garden book to one of the local park rangers. He seems really enthused about your work now. Just doing my bit to get word out! 👍

  • @petara6065
    @petara6065 Před 5 lety +10

    Thank you for this great information it is well needed! We have a polytunnel too. On one side the door is always open, but on the other side there is no opening. The last years we had quite an issue with spider mites. Now that I have seen your video, I wonder if the lack of ventilation made it extra comfortable for the mites....I think we will put an opening in the opposite side of the door as you have it in your polytunnel as well. Petra

  • @kymvalleygardensdesign5350
    @kymvalleygardensdesign5350 Před 5 měsíci

    I now have a lot of lettuce seedlings to prick out before they get too leggy, they germinate surprisingly easily even in a cold frame. (which has occasionally reached over 70 in the first week of March) 😀

  • @randomness8819
    @randomness8819 Před 2 lety +1

    The best comparative out there and I've watched so many ppl explain! Yet, now I truly and finally understand. Thank you Sir Charles.

  • @robhaan6245
    @robhaan6245 Před 5 lety +3

    I am planning on building a green house/ high tunnel in the spring, thanks for the talking about the differences.

  • @homesteading
    @homesteading Před 5 lety +9

    Great video and good comparison - as always! My greenhouse is somewhat of a hybrid between the two - permanent metal structure with vertical walls, but polythene cover. An essential part of the garden in a cooler climate.

    • @przybyla420
      @przybyla420 Před 3 lety

      Not really essential, but damn handy.

    • @przybyla420
      @przybyla420 Před 3 lety

      Essential for the cool temperate market gardener perhaps.

  • @hallonsylt6729
    @hallonsylt6729 Před 2 lety +1

    I can't really deside what to choose, so I will probably build me something in betwen! (Wooden framed polytunnel with straight walls 6' high). 6' * 24'.
    But not this year! That will have to wait another year. This year I will build some hotbeds / seedbeds, just to get ahead on next season.

  • @sajadahmed1269
    @sajadahmed1269 Před 5 lety +3

    Hi Charles .i have a pollytumnal 10ft/6ft .i was going to change it and get greenhouse but after watching your video i think i will keep my pollytumnal. Thank you for the good information.

  • @MyFamilyGarden
    @MyFamilyGarden Před 5 lety +5

    Great informative video, good explanation of the pros and cons.
    I built a greenhouse out of a wooden frame but used polycarbonate instead of glass I've got the problem you mentioned regarding footballs flying about.
    Always enjoy watching!

  • @dianeirvine1384
    @dianeirvine1384 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks Charles for your videos I have watched many over a couple of years now. I always learn a lot and apply much of the information into my own garden, along with a few other people that I think have the same weather patterns to us in the most southern part of New Zealand, here in Invercargill.Keep up the good work, always enjoy the content, thank you so much.

  • @atroutflycrazy8057
    @atroutflycrazy8057 Před rokem

    Your wooden glasshouse is a really beautiful structure to look at and be in charles and is a lifetime job , polytunnels are very affordable and def do the job.
    With being in a trade i was able to build my own this year with wood frame and polycarb sheet .

  • @JoshStobart
    @JoshStobart Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you Charles, your enthusiasm for gardening is infectious and inspiring. We are starting our first garden next year in Canada and while some things you talk about just aren't possible in our climate, we're happy to hear about new ideas and concepts to keep us thinking critically about our unique problems.
    Plus as a brit myself, your very quintessentially british manner reminds me of home. Thank you and we look forward to seeing what new ideas strike you in the future!

  • @mirandaf2112
    @mirandaf2112 Před 5 lety +4

    I've been wanting to add a greenhouse structure to my garden. Thank you for sharing the differences between yours.

  • @charlie123866
    @charlie123866 Před 5 lety +2

    you can use a diesel or gas heater to add co2 and bring up the winter temps..and you should add a large solar fan.

  • @HolmesHobbies
    @HolmesHobbies Před 2 lety

    We reskinned a hoop shed in poly and simply threw ropes over in between the hoops. Rope is connected to ground anchors and wiggle track on the ends to hold poly on the edge. Has been working great all year despite heavy storms!

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 2 lety

      I like the improvisation, hope that in winter wind the rope is not abrasive on the plastic. Or I imagine you could remove it until spring.

  • @whatdidyouthinkwouldhappen1203

    Hi Charles. Thank you for the tour of your tunnel and greenhouse. We use hog panels and poly pipe to build tunnels, I also have a greenhouse, both have their different uses. I have not done winter gardening before, for some reason I shy away from it. I might give it a try next year. Thank you again for the info. Have a great day.

  • @lorraineg8134
    @lorraineg8134 Před 5 lety +3

    Great share Charles, enjoy your calm approach to your viddos( still reminding me of Sir David Attenborough ) Great info sharing, thankyou.

  • @avsvasudha9687
    @avsvasudha9687 Před 5 lety +4

    U much better than our professor's

  • @stevecolwill9761
    @stevecolwill9761 Před 5 lety +2

    Another great video, Charles. I currently have winter salads, spring onions, elephant garlic and broad beans in my polytunnel.

  • @laurarowland7926
    @laurarowland7926 Před 3 lety

    I love the hoop house that my husband made..it's small but the plants love it..it's made with fencing,rebar,& greenhouse film..got greenhouse film on Amazon..he had to put windows in it..temp got up to 100F..stays around 80F..holds up well to wind because it's behind old truck..film not buried..thankyou for showing your structures 👍🙏✝️

  • @MargaretWalkerCellist
    @MargaretWalkerCellist Před 3 lety +1

    White tape would be a MUST in the Arizona desert, where outside temps get up to 115+. Love all your setups, Charles. Carry on!

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 3 lety

      Good point Margaret and I hope you are all ok in that crazy heat

    • @MargaretWalkerCellist
      @MargaretWalkerCellist Před 3 lety

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig It IS crazy, Charles, especially when for the past 2 years we've had tremendous DROUGHT, but it did rain well 2 nights ago, and the new polycarbonate roof on my 2x4-built greenhouse yields the clearest drinking water, overnight I reaped 64 gallons on it in SECONDS as it poured off my rooves: 16x12 and 12x12 greenhouses, both with polycarbonate roofing, which is GREAT! For shade I put woodscrews inside of them through cotton painter's drop cloths, and that lets sunlight through and never rots...never getting wet either. Arizona had NO MONSOONS in our area last year at all. The Western US is under serious drought and you ought to see Hoover Dam, lowest EVER, in my lifetime! I still do always enjoy your videos! I sort of envy your rainfall altogether! My banana plants are growing speedily, and if they make it through next Winter, I will plant them outside next Spring so they can bloom into fruiting....for 2022. I shall add that I bought cloth screens for my door openings in summer that keep insects out - I had a huge infestation of wasps coming and going in and out so I had to buy these screens held closed by magnets. In Winter the solid door can close while the screens are installed on the inside of the jams. I just walk through them as the magnets close them behind me. Perfect for a greenhouse and cheap to buy on Amazon or elsewhere.

  • @hisroyalblueness
    @hisroyalblueness Před 2 lety

    Lovely video, it really helped my thinking on the topic, thank you.
    As a retired lighting engineer, I’ve got a little tip for you in small return; You will marginally increase the efficiency of your timber greenhouse if you paint the internal timber white. This will reduce the amount of light energy absorbed as heat by the timber frame and reflect that light to provide additional illumination to your plants.
    This will be even more beneficial in winter, when the sun resides at a lower incidence and there is less direct light through the planes and more light hitting the sides of the timber roof and frame components.
    Matt white is more efficient than gloss as it provides better diffusion (which is poorly understood as people seem to presume that anything shiny is best).

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 2 lety +1

      Many thanks!
      On the other hand, I do like the look of the wood! Interesting about matt rather than gloss, I would not have thought.

    • @hisroyalblueness
      @hisroyalblueness Před 2 lety

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig I’m absolutely delighted to be able to impart a little bit of what I know, to a man who has taught me so much down the years 👍
      Gloss finishes introduce hot spots and cold spots and a Matt finish provides an even distribution of reflected light.
      White is the most efficient colour as it reflects the full spectrum, of course. Black absorbs all of the spectrum and, for this purpose, green is no better than black because green absorbs all parts of the spectrum except those that your plants can’t absorb (as plants act similarly, absorbing all parts of the spectrum and similarly reflecting green).

  • @nickuk911
    @nickuk911 Před 5 lety +1

    Im just starting ut this year growing my own veg, had enough of supermarket rubbish, quite jealous of your yields, i know i have a lot to learn but am watching lots of videos to help with the learning process and am hoping for some success this year !

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety

      Well done Nick I am sure you will enjoy worthwhile harvests and notice the fine flavours. Plus feel healthier for the great microbes.

  • @vanessaeden8174
    @vanessaeden8174 Před 3 lety +1

    My grandmother had a sun lounge made of cedar wood and I remember the wood had a lovely smell. I expect your greenhouse has too.

  • @cheshirehomestead3574
    @cheshirehomestead3574 Před 5 lety +2

    Yes i have a polytunnel. Great video

  • @StaceyHerewegrowagain
    @StaceyHerewegrowagain Před 5 lety +3

    Great video! Thank you so much! I need a greenhouse so badly, growing as much as I do here in fl. During the summer can be a huge struggle with fungal and pest diseases. We are unable to grow things like squash, cucumbers and big leaf plants here, which really stinks..lol. this cedar one is beautiful, but I think I'll stick with the cheaper ones, at least for now. lol always such a pleasure watching you! I feel at peace now🤗

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +1

      Many thanks Stacey, hope you fid a good greenhouse!

    • @StaceyHerewegrowagain
      @StaceyHerewegrowagain Před 5 lety +1

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig thank you so much! I would probably invest in 2, one for homesteading our own food and the other I want to use so I can move foward with my non-profit organization and my future business plans🤗 I sure can't wait!

    • @Gigi-fv9ky
      @Gigi-fv9ky Před 5 lety

      What part of FL? I grew up on a farm in the panhandle and squash, cukes, etc. grow like weeds in that area. I have never had one, but would think a greenhouse would increase the chance of fungal disease in a hot, humid climate. If you are in South Florida, you might have better luck with squash, etc., in the non--summer months? Good luck!
      ETA. I googled this and maybe it will be helpful. Another very good resource is your county extension agent. gardeningsolutions.ifas.ufl.edu/plants/edibles/vegetables/summer-squash.html

  • @MargaretWalkerCellist
    @MargaretWalkerCellist Před 3 lety

    Excellent, Charles, to hear the comparison of the two types! Here in the NW Arizona desert I've built a wood-framed permanent green house with polycarbonate roof and sides with double-paned house windows for the northside and east and west sides to let heat out, also a large 4x7 front door that is solid wood, able to open all day for summer ventilation. But like many greenhouses, they're soon TOO SMALL!, so I plan on attaching a smaller one to the west side where the yard wooden fence (redwood) can act as the westside while the eastdide wall it already the existing greenhouse, so all I have to build is the front and back, north and south walls, with doors in each...all same materials, with rain gutters for collecting water off the polycarbonate, which last rain was crystal clean, great-tasting, cold water collected in a bin, drinkable immediately! I just need more space for propagating seedlings over the coldest winter months. It's GREAT to have your expertise, when deciding what materials to use for each purpose. Because of the high winds 4x year as the seasons blow in and out, I shall avoid the hoop-style house altogether, opting for the wood structure since the golfer moved OUT of the NEIGHBORHOOD, finally! LOL!

  • @gardeningandgoldfish2287
    @gardeningandgoldfish2287 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for the tips. Still can't decide.

  • @LondonTreeSurgeons-Camden
    @LondonTreeSurgeons-Camden Před 5 lety +11

    Charles encouraging us to dig, was not expecting that! Interesting comparison of wood with glass and poytunnel, I guess aluminium is a compromise between the two? Great video as always, thanks.

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +2

      Yes aluminium would be better for growing

    • @LondonTreeSurgeons-Camden
      @LondonTreeSurgeons-Camden Před 5 lety +3

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig Thanks, I guess that with glass and a thinner frame it would be the most efficient but would have a larger cost to consider compared with polytunnel. You have got us all thinking about the most efficient method.

    • @0skar9193
      @0skar9193 Před 5 lety +2

      We opted for both. In fact we have 3 aluminium 2x 6x8ff & 1x 10x6ft greenhouses and a polytunnel 10x20ft. I had chance of wooden but after Charles explained about the lower light levels and the obvious cost, aluminium was a no brainer. I had reservations about digging a trench for the polythene, but I think the small amount of disturbance for 5-8 years polythene life is a good balance. Polytunnel does have the slight disadvantage of weather damage, snow and wind. But greenhouses are not immune. Best thing I have found with greenhouses is to use a "foundation" of timber - I use 8x2" ground contact treated or wrapped in DPM. Great for levelling and gives about 6" extra height... we cannot have brick based greenhouses on our allotment site... this is my cheeky workaround ;)

    • @LondonTreeSurgeons-Camden
      @LondonTreeSurgeons-Camden Před 5 lety +2

      @@0skar9193 I like your cheeky workaround! And like you I would have no worries about a bit of digging for years of polytunnel life. I think the balance is a cheaper poytunnel or more expensive aluminium, the wood is probably third choice because of the cost and the thicker frames blocking the light. From your experience what would you choose ?

    • @jefvanparijs7143
      @jefvanparijs7143 Před 5 lety +1

      The greenhouse is indeed beautiful as it is but in regard to the light, if the wood was painted white, would that increase the light in the greenhouse? I guess the difference with aluminium will not be so big anymore.

  • @HealthyLifeFarm
    @HealthyLifeFarm Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for this video! I purchased both, but I think I'll put up the polytunnel first due to lack of time and my greenhouse needs a concrete foundation before I install it. Love your videos.

  • @hisroyalblueness
    @hisroyalblueness Před 2 lety

    Fantastic information delivered impeccably, as usual, thank you.
    However, one thing to mention is that toughened glass is actually less tough than ordinary glass. The toughening process is a heat treatment that locks stress into the glass so that, if it breaks, it breaks into small fragments rather than big sharp pieces. It’s a safety feature and should be used wherever there’s any risk of breakage.
    If you want truly tougher glass then using thicker plate in the answer. If you want safe glass use ‘toughened’ glass and if you want both then use thicker toughened glass 😊 And thank you again for all the good work you do👍

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much for this clarification. I think that my greenhouse does have thick, toughened glass because it is really solid. I see your point though about how it breaks, when it breaks!

  • @TheMag625
    @TheMag625 Před 5 lety +2

    Your greenhouse is so beautiful

  • @markusr.4343
    @markusr.4343 Před 5 lety +3

    Very good job!! Thank you very much for information, hi from, Bavaria, south Germany,

  • @paulmorgan6269
    @paulmorgan6269 Před rokem

    Great video Charles, a nice laid back easy to listen to video. Cheers.

  • @TheEnduringGardener
    @TheEnduringGardener Před 5 lety +4

    I would encourage you to treat a cedar greenhouse once a year if you want to maximise the life of it. Great video as usual...

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety

      Thanks; others say that is unnecessary...

    • @TheEnduringGardener
      @TheEnduringGardener Před 5 lety +3

      Charles Dowding - my cedar greenhouse is around ten years old and it’s starting to go at the corners near the base, I’ve never treated it either.

  • @MrEye4get
    @MrEye4get Před 3 lety +1

    Personally, I prefer the the look of the Greenhouse! The design and style adds much to the values of the property, if maintained. The polytunnel is easily removed if not used or needed.

  • @denisestone8491
    @denisestone8491 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you for the great comparison! I was just thinking of this last week. I decided on a poly tunnel but might rethink if I can find a small metal greenhouse structure. Thanks again for your help.

  • @keiheaherakiwi1611
    @keiheaherakiwi1611 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you Mr Dowding

  • @Tabby318
    @Tabby318 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much. I've been thinking about buying a greenhouse and I have been pointed every which way. Somewhere in the back of my mind I knew I had heard you talking about greenhouses. Now I know what I am getting (what I always secretly wanted) - a greenhouse made with safety glass. I no longer have a large area and a greenhouse would be fun; if my tomatoes succeed I'll be delighted. If it goes wrong, then it goes wrong - but oh I look forward to giving it a go!

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 3 lety +1

      This sounds great Teresa

    • @Tabby318
      @Tabby318 Před 3 lety

      @@CharlesDowding1nodig Thank you. Your videos are the subjects of many conversations!

  • @WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS
    @WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks Charles, Iv not decided if I want a Polly Tunnel or a green house. I don't grow anything after Octobor because the low sun gets blocked by trees.

  • @Vintage70s
    @Vintage70s Před 5 lety +2

    Great video. Thanks for your teaching, work, and knowledge.

  • @ianwynne5483
    @ianwynne5483 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice comparison, thanks for this one.

  • @paramasivamsamanna1307

    Sir, Mr. Charels Dowdind are you an actor, if not You should have been. You have beautifully explained, the one rustic greenhouse Ceder structure and the one cheaper and popular Ploy sheet greenhouse, the Tomatoes are an excellent comparison, both tomatoes, and the eggplant hanging from the roof looks like Christmas tree ornaments. Eggplants and tomatoes are excellent companions, Eggplant Italian cooking is popular in the western world but the eggplant Cooked in spices and tomatoes east Indian way, that is a good one, no meat no cheese, still good over the rice Thanks and Wishes to you Paramasivam

  • @DigwellGreenfingers
    @DigwellGreenfingers Před 5 lety +4

    Surprised me about getting frost in the polytunnel Charles! Not that I have one (No structures allowed on our allotments.
    Keep up the good work.
    Steve

    • @stephkrunic3884
      @stephkrunic3884 Před 5 lety

      We don't even get frost AT ALL (35° S and near the sea) so it was certainly a surprise to hear the poly tunnel at Homeacres frosts! Very different climates make for delightfully different gardens! Thank you Charles for sharing.

  • @DiegoLopez-gt8ik
    @DiegoLopez-gt8ik Před 5 lety +2

    I reckon the heat resistant white tapes on the hoops of the polytunnel are for more southern climates like texas

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 Před 5 lety +3

    We would love to have a beautiful greenhouse like yours. But for now we have a 18 by 66 polytunnel. We do have all the materials to create a 30 by 100 polytunnel next spring. Its the only way to grow for us.

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety

      I would be happy with that, loads of growing space, hope it goes well for you.

  • @greatprovider8198
    @greatprovider8198 Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I love the no dig.

  • @cantalibre4708
    @cantalibre4708 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you Charles.

  • @kamilfrancoolczak
    @kamilfrancoolczak Před 5 lety +1

    The light in the poly tunnel is more dispersed,rather then straight like in the glass structures

  • @urbanrat84
    @urbanrat84 Před 5 lety +1

    Invaluable information, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience!

  • @veradejong9437
    @veradejong9437 Před 3 lety

    This is again a great information . I"ve been listening very carefully Charles☺

  • @flowergrowersmith449
    @flowergrowersmith449 Před 5 lety +1

    You could possibly paint your timber white on the inside of the greenhouse - it might help with light reflection??! Wouldn't look as nice though I guess!!

  • @stephencoleman3578
    @stephencoleman3578 Před 5 lety

    Greenhouses are also used in the humid tropics. Often the sides are screens instead of poly. Heavy rains can pommel seedlings and cause water logging of the soil. In addition greenhouses keep out the bugs. Shade cloth can be placed over the poly because sunlight can get very intense and within hours kill all the salads.

  • @gballotmentvlogs6400
    @gballotmentvlogs6400 Před 5 lety +1

    Looking really good can’t wait to see what you bring to the table next year. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas, regards Gary & Ben

  • @cowboyyoga
    @cowboyyoga Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you Charles... enjoyed listening to you! )))

  • @oddopops1327
    @oddopops1327 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent video! 😊

  • @eadjh98
    @eadjh98 Před 5 lety +2

    Just love watching your videos Charles, there’s always plenty to take on board! That’s why with your knowledge you raking I. The subscribers, keep up the good work and look forward to your next video, happy Christmas to you all at “Home acres”

  • @julianachandler2975
    @julianachandler2975 Před 3 lety +1

    Some good information. Thanks

  • @Stu-Vino
    @Stu-Vino Před 3 lety

    What a well-made, brilliantly explained video! Thanks so much.

  • @MicaRayan
    @MicaRayan Před 4 lety

    Happy to see your video❤ this is exactly what I need! I love gardening

  • @rebeccajosteelman563
    @rebeccajosteelman563 Před 5 lety +2

    Wonderful, thank you for that comprehensive overview of both :-)xo

  • @yushikuang7877
    @yushikuang7877 Před 4 lety

    What you called poly-tunnel, we have plenty in Montreal (Canada). It city use and we are far from the rural region. We called Tempo as is the main manufacturer name. We use it as a car shelter to protect them from the snow. Will save you time each morning to not have to shovel the snow. On my street, every single house have a single size or a double size (for two cars). At spring, we have to disassembly it..the city will not allow to keep it the whole summer. In automn, i spend a whole weekend to build it with my husband. A lot of work, but less shovel works during winter. As it’s very common, you can find them from 250Cnd for a single car to 1200cnd for a custom double size.

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 4 lety

      Ah this sounds funny to me but I see the sense of it.
      I wonder if you had much snow this past winter as it has been warmer everywhere it seems.

  • @stevendowden2579
    @stevendowden2579 Před 5 lety +2

    cracking video once again well done

  • @goodcat9088
    @goodcat9088 Před 5 lety +1

    Roll on February start off the chillies growing

  • @soniarose1387
    @soniarose1387 Před 5 lety +1

    Very useful and interesting video, thanks! 🙏

  • @jerricroft937
    @jerricroft937 Před 5 lety +1

    I continue to watch and rewatch you and a few others and always go away learning a thing or two. I struggled with taking out tomatoes this fall to plant greens for winter. I see the answer in you hoop house, I was not pruning my tomatoes up high enough to allow light to reach the ground. Lesson learned. Thank you good man, or is it good on you mate?, ( a phrase I heard in Hobart Tasmania)

  • @blustardave
    @blustardave Před 5 lety

    Hello Charles. I am a new subscriber, but have heard of you through the gardening grapevine, so to speak. Interesting video. It's good to see someone putting a polytunnel up properly by digging a trench..:) Anyway, I remember being in my grandads allotment when I was a bairn and his greenhouse, as was most greenhouses back then , was built on a brick base. Over the years I have found that bricks will retain the heat from the sun for up to 70% of the night. My granda's greenhouse had 2 leek trenches made from bricks attached to the outside wall/base of the greenhouse.

  • @cchurch5037
    @cchurch5037 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for another great video Charles - wonder if you saw Curtis Stone greenhouse - same issue with light so he painted it all white - amazing improvement.

    • @CharlesDowding1nodig
      @CharlesDowding1nodig  Před 5 lety +1

      How funny, thanks, I could not bear to do that however! (I like the natural look of wood)

  • @dogmandoug1715
    @dogmandoug1715 Před 5 lety +9

    Encouraging me to Dig? Sir I don’t have a spade 😂.

  • @strenuousbobbykushner
    @strenuousbobbykushner Před 5 lety +3

    Charles, I shared this video on tweeter 😊😊

  • @benjybasable
    @benjybasable Před 3 lety

    This is an impressive video, in terms of presentation, filming and content. Well done, I'm now a subscriber and will be watching for tips on my new allotment.

  • @suttonsplash14
    @suttonsplash14 Před 5 lety +2

    thanks for the tips!

  • @aminguyen8065
    @aminguyen8065 Před 5 lety +1

    Wow wonderful I like it Thank you about your video.Have a great day💐👍🌺😀✈️

  • @TikangaMaara
    @TikangaMaara Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you Charles

  • @therevelation19
    @therevelation19 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice. I live at latitude 51,7333, so I hope, I can adapt a lot of Your hints. ;D

  • @craigkeller
    @craigkeller Před 5 lety +1

    Great videos! Thank you!

  • @welshbusser
    @welshbusser Před 4 lety +1

    It’s no dig in the Polytunnel as well, I was thinking about using a raised bed in the Polytunnel I just had (just got to level the ground when it stops raining) I think I won’t bother now