WHICH TRAITOR PRIMARCH NEXT? WHO DO YOU WANT TO RETURN?
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- Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're asking Which Traitor Primarch you WANT to return next?
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Lorgar as that would also give an arc to bring back Corvus Corax for the loyalists.
Great idea!
Perty coming back would be epic
He’s definitely my pick, however it will probably be Fulgrim.
Perty yesh!
I want to see Perturabo come back at the head of a whole iron warriors empire, possibly allied with Vashtor and the Dark Mechanicum to make a sort of Drukari esque triple threat faction. Bonus points if Fabulous bill is in on the action. I can just imagine them recreating the trick where some iron warriors kidnapped a tyranid bioship, inflicted it with the Obliterator virus, mind slaved it and fly it around like a normal ship, and redoing that on an idustrial scale to farm ships by baiting tyranids into their terriroty. I think having a faction with these 4 groups together would make a very impressively varied and interesting faction. Would also be an interesting way to have a faction that is chaos but not just chaos undivided, but chaos specifically not aligned with any of the 4 major gods all forming a coalition.
Perty is too OP. He's got to come in later.
I want him to come back and be like, hey guys I worked out my trauma and now I focus building nice birdhouses
Fulgrim with a potential loyalist fulgrim perfect clone as well. This would take advantage of and wrap up some dropped plot points previously thrown out there. It also completes the quartet of the god aligned Legions.
Clonegrim was a one and done side story. Even the author is baffled why people like you keep bringing it up. That plotline is dead.
@@MiniatureMasterClass It is an obvious plot hook with a pure Fulgrim capable of redeeming his Legion or causing a civil war/confronting his Daemonic self just sitting in stasis somewhere.
Guilliman, for example, was a waiting plot point for decades while SITTING IN STASIS.
The Angel remains a plot point despite being quite dead thanks to the Sanguinor and his angry ghost self aboard the Vengeful Spirit.
We have MULTIPLE Primarchs ready to return with less to go on.
Even Ol' Headless gets an honorable mention due to being a fiery vengeance effigy summoned by the Emperor once in the Webway.
Please no. The primarch clones are some of the lamest plots in the history 40k
Seeing the alpha legion pop up and Alpharius or Omegon telling the lion or Rowboat “I lived bitch” and then disappearing again would be awesome
Both the lion and robute wake up and both find a note pinned inches above their heads, it just has a picture of a hydra and 'I am Alpharius'
It's going to be fulgrim. He's needed to complete the chaos gods and the noise marines are so far out of date it's not funny.
Having said that... my wish is for Omegon, leading an upgraded Primaris hoard. Made from the gene seed tech stolen from the Ravenguard that the Emperor gave them to rebuild rapidly after Istavan wiped them out. But also utilising the Primaris tech stolen from or frankly made by Cawl with Alpharius gene seed but gone wild.
It would be a great way to balance the scales between chaos and the hundreds of loyalist models we've got. Most of the law says the Chaos warbands are using HH tech... this gives them an opportunity to have a modern legion with new or even more advanced tech (it's the Alpha Legion after all) than the imperial marines.
Also... I think a plastic, true scale, scaled Alpharius/Omegon model could be the best Primarch sculpt 😅 In the meantime I will continue to field my "Omega Ghosts" Primaris army using either Guilliman or the Lion's rules as a standin for my FW Alpharius 😂🤣😂
Hydra Dominatus. 🙂
@@JD86Vintagethe noise marines are 100% fit for duty.
Read the book 36th book of the Horus heresy and the first book of the Fabious bile trilogy.
@@silent_stalker3687 riiiiight. Last I checked the EC existed as a marine playing a guitar, a weapons sprue and a aspiring champion upgrade kit. Which, if I'm not mistaken, are both coming up on their 20th anniversaries 🙄🙄🙄
Compare that to the other three gods of chaos who (now) each have their own codex, troops, elites, champions and oh yeah, a plastic daemon Primarch each. They might be fit for purpose, but it's going to be them that gets an army update/Primarch next. They're the only one of the four chaos god armies left to do, it's happening and my guess would be they're the next chaos legion done. It would be a bit like doing dark angels, space Wolves and then leaving blood angels alone. Sure it might take a while, but you know they're getting the update before the white scars.
I kinda want Pertarabo to show up
Lorgar. I think him vs Guilliman would again would be awesome.
He doesn't dare leave his house. Corvus is still looking
Lorgar is weak
Lorgar would be very interesting with Guilliman’s current crises of faith. Also, it would be very interesting to see his reaction to the Ecclesiarchy and the awakening of the God-Emperor.
I can imagine lorgar returning and causing an ecclesiastical schism with his return. Perhaps he shoes up worshiping the emporer, but as a member of the chaos pantheon instead of the God of humanity.
There is a lot room for character growth for Lorgar too. How would he handle his humiliation at Monarchia with the reality of a divine Emperor?
I WAS RIGHT I WAS RIGHT I WAS RIGHT DAD IS A GOD!!!
TBF we dunnot Know how much Lorgar already knows. There is a short story about 30k where he is outraged that there still is a cult in the emperors name spreading. But it also gave him much to ponder on he said, Likely one of many reasons he went to meditate in his Cathedral. Then we also don't know just How isolated he was in his cathedral. Was he really just sitting 10k+ years sitting in there meditating? did Warp time dilation make it feel for him maybe just like a couple months? In addition he is a demon primarch, does he really feel the passing of time? Does he have special WB attendants that brought him reports of the outside world? did he let his mind wander the warp in meditation and observed the univerese? Hard to say. However I doubt he is oblivious to what has been going on with the Universe at large.,
Perturabo. I like the idea of him still being mortal but more machine than man. Have him just carve out his own empire and wage war on anybody who challenges him.
Well he's a demon prince. Maybe if he swears loyalty to Vasshtor?
A big ass primarch dreadnaut with the chaos sorcery like vashtor has would be so ducking dope
If Vashtorr achieves his goal of becoming a God I think we can kiss goodbye to any chance of Perty remaining human / mortal (if the story of his ascension as Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided was false), so to me that's one more reason root for the failure of whatever Vashtorr and Abaddon are planning.
@@sond.lollipop8919Perty like Horus had Arificer Cataphractii Terminator Armor. The very best, top shelf, I would say due to their size they needed it tailored and probably ran a Contemptor Dreadnought engine or a similar one from the time like Leviathan or Doredeo(?).
I wrote above that Perturabo had an AI system in his suit connected to his brain and he had some Men of Iron robot bodyguards. So I thought it would be cool if the AI and his suit are the Daemon Prince and he's just symbiotically on life support while his AI took one for the team.
Daemon Primarch Fulgrim VS Clone Fulgrim!
Want: Alpharius
Most probably: Fulgrim with Emperor's Children codex
tbh both need to happen asap
truer words...never spoken
Who says Alpharius isn't already back
@@lukkaredwolf3534 He never left....muahagaaaaahhaaaa
@@lincolnosiris3665 I've been a proponent of the theory that Gorilla-man is actually Alpharius, just doing a long term con.
@@lukkaredwolf3534 Meh...my money is on Cypher. He strikes me as just a tad too skillful an astartes. Even one that is 10k yrs. old. It fits the picture quite nicely.
I honestly think having Omegon come back but have him as the template for the Primaris would be a nice twist and would give some interesting story ideas.
That would just validate Gabriel Seth from the flesh tearers
I believe the quote from Seth is that Girlyman is trying to make everyone smurfs but in red or gray armour. I can see tho how it can validate his words.
@@zarektheinsane6656 in a round about way if omegon shows up and the primaris turn on everyone
You realise the video says traitor primarce
@@fighterphoenix5789 are you implying oemgon is loyal?
Well Fulgrim is the next logical one with a Slaanesh release
I want one of the non-aligned Traiter Primarchs to return next - Lorgar, Perturabo or Alpharius. But I feel pretty confident it'll be Fulgrim.
I'll be honest, I'm dying to have Perturabo back. The two short stories in the limited edition Storm of Iron novel were a massive thrill. I feel like GW themselves greatly underestimate his appeal and popularity. Fulgrim would be great to have too, but I feel he's about half as dangerous to the Imperium. Maybe that's why he's rumored to be coming beforehand.
For the survey: Lorgar! Vulcan is cool, but Lorgar has so much to dive into. From philosophy to tinfoil theories, the guy is a treasure trove of lore.
Id love to see the curve ball of Curze trapped in the crown.
I’d love him to have a redemption arc.
Alpharius should come back next. Hes not dead, hes Alpharius, he made the writer believe he was dead in order to pull the most megamind brain move in 40k.
Rogal Dorn pulled off the most MegaGrind brain move on Alpharius, though!
It would be cool to find out that alpharius or omegon were actually the secret head of the inquisition following in there uncles footsteps as they were seemingly raised to
I want to see lorgar return. The chaos gods really need a true believer out there
Most likely to be Fulgrim with the eventual EC revamp/release
I’d like to see Perty make a return, but honestly I doubt any of the undivided primarchs will pop up again. Especially Lorgar, because if he returns, Corax isn’t far behind
Why not? You have much of a story for a future edition right there with Lorgar and Corax.
For Primarch week, Lorgar. Not because I like him that much but because he’s such a pivotal character. Him coming back to face off Guilliman would be highly entertaining but Perturabo coming back would make a really interesting story. As for a full new codex and range, I could go with either Fulgrim or Perturabo with the Iron Warriors getting a bit of an edge. I have no ideas what a Word Bearers legion would even look like so might be fun just to see what GW comes up with but, yeah, Iron Warriors but just barely.
I like Logar. He was always a very interesting character to me.
Also, Perturabo would be awsome
It’s never going to happen but imagine if perty or whoever get announced, the models ship, you open the box and it’s alpharius!
In the lore, I'd love to see Omegon in a novel just for the toe-curling WTF of it all.
On the table, Perturabo would be my preference. Fulgrim/EC would be interesting (especially if we got a new noise marine). Lorgar would be fine, but we can already field mixed CSM/Daemons lists so it wouldn't be terribly exciting. Perty, though? Give me IW dread sculpts, daemon engines, and a giant mechanized monster for Perty, juuuust take my money.
Fulgrim has been hinted at already being un the galaxy, causing a lot of things. Alpharius never left, Lorgar would be interesting since it means he was able to leave his prison/tower. Pertrabo is making things that go boom so he is too busy.
I'm with Perturabo! Tying in with Vashtor makes a ton of sense and it would be a great excuse for GW to add more depths to the character.
Fulgrim is a given. I am as far from chaos fan as one can get, but Emperor's Chiuldren need some shiny new models. I wonder what They could get?
-Deamon Primarch Fulgrim
-new Lucius (would preffer perma death for him :P )
-Noise Marines
-fancy Terminators
-Lear allies (not likely, but super fun)
-sonic Hellbrute/other sonic deamon engine
-dedicated cultis unit
I'd like to Omegon brought into the setting but in a subtle way. Maybe a few in person meetings with Guilliman. And as readers get to see him poking about being the scenes sometimes, while in lore it's just like a few Inquisitors and maybe G-man investigating him. A suitable and sneaky way for him as opposed to the rest of the demon Primarchs at the head of their legions.
And for a model I think something like the Celistant Prime from AoS would be cool. In lore when he deploys with any Stormhost his armor changes to the color of that stormhost, so players can paint him as and use him with any host. Be a cool way to have a big Alpha legion-y marine that blends into any popular or obscure warband you might play.
Other then that, Perturabo would be cool.
Have Omegon come back but have him as side story of Perty come back, maybe have him helping the king in yellow (Valdor) but instrumental in helping Perty winning something without him knowing…hod I’d love the fan base melting over that.
With the Nids in ascendance Perty coming back would be baller. One of the only things that could possibly withstand the Devourer is the wall of iron, bullets, and hate that would be a reborn 4th Legion.
I would prefer to see Perturabo return, but he would probably be a cataclysmic return. He is bred for war and war alone. He is a brilliant strategist and would certainly bring great ruin upon the foes of Chaos. That being said, I feel like he will return if Chaos starts being beaten. He seems like a character used to turn the tide.
Fulgrim (if I recall) has already been rumored to be at work in the galaxy. His appearance seems more like a "when" than the others. He will probably show up some time around Dorn returning since they had a rivalry.
Perturabo would probably be the biggest pain because of how he always hard carries the traitor forces when he's involved.
Lorgar seems most likely though given the themes of faith and doubt.
ALPHARIUS AND OMEGON!!!!
Alpharius showing up with the uncorrupted Raptor gene seeded warriors to match up with the new Primaris would be fun
Fulgrim WILL be the next Traitor Primarch to come to the forefront/tabletop. It’s obvious from a Doylist perspective; he’s the last of the four, Noise Marine upgrades are from 2002, the Lucius model is not just old but fugly, and they just made a new animation to show off how cool the Emperor’s Children can be.
Beyond Fulgrim though? It has to be Perturabo. Out of all the Traitor Primarchs of Chaos Undivided, he is the most popular by far. Not to mention that his lore ties into both the setting and other legions far more directly than any of the others, aside for Lorgar. What other traitor Primarch is known for their eternal beef with one Loyalist Primarch while wielding the weapon of a completely different Loyalist? Plus he represents the heavily armored niche that’s currently very absent from the CSM range.
Speaking of Lorgar, while he and his legion are super interesting (if awful as people) and are key to the setting, I see their direct involvement more near the end if not the very last Traitor Primarch.
As for my personal pick, there’s one question I’ve had recently that I haven’t found an answer for: does anyone know where Konrad Curze’s body is? Or what state it’s in? Or if a powerful Daemon (like Belakor, finally give the guy something in the setting) could just perform a ritual on it and make it fit for possession?
bro slayed 2 primarchs basically, wolf lord "not to be underestimated"
Lorgar has the most potential for story-telling, imho. As the "biggest" devotee of the Chaos Gods, he's best placed to really escalate ALL conflicts into the stratosphere, by corrupting entire regions and fighting against the "divinity" of the Emperor - c'mon the added story of him fighting against his own book would be great! He's also the last Primarch that could/should be redeemed - as it would very much need the Emperor to show him his absolute folly of believing in Gods, which would also need the Emperor to show how he really REALLY isn't one, which can only happen right at the very end (which we'll never get to!!). Finally, his own goals & Abaddon's do not align, and as such although his Words and daemons pose a huge threat to the Imperium, he also creates a large rift within the Chaos forces that Abaddon will have to fight to maintain control of.
All of these points could be dipped in and out in future story-telling, with rifts, splinter groups, internal & external conflict... He just adds that much potential.
Lorgar may not be the strongest Primarch, but by 'eck he does a lot for story-telling!
I want to see Lorgar return. His conflict with Guilleman is in a similar tier as with Fulgrim so we can explore how that aspect of their relationship will affect the galaxy in the modern era, and the potential nonsense that could come from whatever he learned/gained from his 10,000 years of isolation and meditation could add even more weight to the already heavy stakes that exist in the setting.
It will also be a great way to Segway into another loyalist primarch return, with Corvus Corax. Him or The Khan are next up in that regard imo, so having a narrative where Lorgar and Guilleman confront eachother in a big way, while The Lion either seeks out or is approached by the New form of Corax, who’s on the hunt for Lorgar personally. He could come in and save the lion from a particularly spicy chaos or Tyranid threat and make a silent return to the fold, which could then jostle other traitor primarchs who may have still be content to watch into feeling the need to intervene themselves given how dangerous Corax now likely is and Just how important Lorgars return will inevitably be.
I’m going out on a bit of a wild tangent here, but I’ll say that Lorgar is my pick to be next. At the climax of the Plague Wars, a secret, damning piece of evidence ends up in the hands of a remembrancer that could really mess up Guilliman’s mojo. Moreover we learn of the Anchorite, who has shed blood for the first time in ten thousand years. What better force to exploit religious division than Lorgar?
But instead of Lorgar being fighting against Corvus, I want him to fight Perty.
Perty has aided Vastorr in getting his hands on the Key. It is secure, and they are hunting for the weapon. Are the other members of the Pantheon willing to add a fifth member to their ranks? I think not.
Word Bearers vs Iron Warriors as the loyalists fight one another over relevations 10,000 years in the making. Now that would be fun.
I don't believe Alpharius is dead. I think it is classic GW for Alpharius to be alive.
Honestly I'm surprised people are serious when they say they think he's dead. I'm like... I guess you're not super familiar with the glorious Alpha Legion and their inscrutable ways.
(That sounded meaner than I meant it to, it's supposed to be a good natured jibe)
I’m all about Lorgar, one of the few. My very first warhammer book was the first heretic. I was hooked.
6:21 oooh Medrengard getting assaulted by tyranids? Damn let’s see what he’s built in terms of defense for ten thousand years
Perty is my absolute favourite primarch and I'd love to him back, non demonic, just more mechanised, he would have such a cool army too, but I think we all know fulgrim will be back next
Want? I'm mostly indifferent. I mainly play Space Wolves, sometimes T'au, and sometimes Grey Knights. But for my friends that I play with, Fulgrim. And to me Fulgrim makes the most sense. He's out there in the story already and Chaos doesn't have a dedicated Slaanesh faction yet. Story wise? I think Lorgar would be the most interesting, but I don't really know what he'd bring to the table top that would make things change up.
Funny you should ask this , they just revealed a new Fulgrim Transformed model! Although it's for the Heresy era it could still be used in the 40K setting too.
Lorgar cause it will make gilliman, the lion and the inquisition issues come a head
Fulgrim is definitely most likely but I think perturabo would be much more interesting with the ongoing vashtor plot line and the possible arrival of the dark mech in 10th there’s a lot of territory to cover with him also a revamp of the iron warriors could involve a lot of new demon engines witch would be cool.
Omegon has been cosplaying as Cypher for the past couple thousand years, no return necessary! Though, having Cypher reclaim the pale spear would be epic. Would be fun with lots of alpha legion banannigans!
It should be noted that there is still the rumor that Doom Eagles are made from Emperors Children loyalists. With Doom Eagles being the original name of the 3rd Legion at the start of Great Crusade. Especially after OG Raylor, Fulgrum may find surviving loyalist Emperors Children (even if just their gene-seed) an afront to his perfect 'betrayal'.
I love how literally everybody’s giving a different answer, really speaks volumes to how well the writers have done at making each of the primarchs feel engaging and complex as characters.
Personally I want lorgar back the most, however I don’t think we’re ready for him… I’d like a bigger build up. So perturabo just saying f you to everyone else would be really cool. That or omegon shenanigans
Angron but properly written. In other words, the Third Punic War gets to end differently.
Lorgar. It would be insane to see a Lorgar/E interaction like we got between E, Roubte, and Mortarion in Godblight. Im sure poppa E has a few choice words for Lorgar.
Lore wise, it's pointing towards Fulgrim. Only chaos entity not being represented by a Primarch currently. Lorgar has to be last imho. Perturabo can get retconned and come back unchanged after and that would be awesome.
I fully believe Omegon is the actual Alphius
Curze could be in the soul stone in the crown. It would be easy to write that anytime.
I love the thought of Perty coming back. I personally think it'd be cooler to not be an ascended daemon primarch too. If Perty was interred in a body suit of armour akin to a dreadnought but shaped as a Primarch. And I'd love it if he had his bodyguard looking just like him and that Perty does battle with his bodyguards being mentally linked to his mind kinda like in tbe heresy. A bit of Alpha legion shenanigans but lethal by a seige masters mastery. Playing as the practical and proverbial game of chess that is 40k in the grim dark universe.
I think Omegon has already been active in the lore.
Cypher!
I think we should get Fulgrim and the revamped emperors children legion, but after that I think there should be special rules made to allow you to make lore compliant army list for the other four legions.
I want Lorgar. Just because I also wanna see Corax for the loyalists the most too. And if Lorgar returns the Corax will be hot on his heels. Perty would be cool also to see how the "long war" is getting along and could offer some cool stories. Omegon would offer some cool stories as well but since they write the alpha legion so weird and you never really get to know what's going on with them it's probably better he stays in the shadows
They’ve commissioned new molds for Emperor’s Children models. It’s going to be Fulgrim.
Crackpot theory: The Pale Spear once reassembled will have the soul of the twins inside. So whenever a legionary wields the weapon, they "become" Alpharius
I'd most ike too see Perturabo just to see what he looks like if he's simply become a daemon Primarch or has become a hulking cybernetic monstrosity to try and extend his slowly dying body.
But....
What I'd really and truly like to see is for the daemon Fulgrim to return and shortly before/after Clonegrim is either released or escapes from Trazyn's museum and returns to the Imperium were he encounters his brother Guilliman. Guilliman is of course very pissed because he still salty about whole having his throat slashed open thing and thinks that this some sort of trick or plot but he or possibly the Lion see's that this new Fulgrim is completely uncorrupted by chaos and eventually is given a new chapter made from his geneseed christened the Son's of the Phoenix to command while also being closely monitored by the Adeptus Custodes if he shows signs of betrayal again. You could literally have Good Fulgrim vs evil Fulgrim which would just be insane. I mean if the Lion is out there in Imperium Nihilus accepting the Fallen Angels back as risen Angels in direct contrast to the Dark Angels hunt and destroy all fallen agenda It might not even be that far fetched I think. I mean probably yeah but I can dream.
I just want GW to openly and officially acknowledge the proto-primarch! Like, he some how shows up and Girly Man and Lion's Johnson has to team up to take out a brother they didn't know existed!
Perty partnered with Vashtoor would be awesome but I want the duel between Lorgar and Corax the most
I think who i want back most depends on how they are used. I really want to see the G-man bash Logar around. I would love to see Alpharias/Omegan do something amazingly cool- but thst would be super difficult to pull off. Pertarobo...I would like it if he did something, maybe take over as Chaos Warmaster for awhile. Give Chaos some fresh blood leadership.
Omegon by far. Thanks for the great videos, man.
Fulgrim first as the model is already made using part of a trygon.
Next Perturabo, as a giant dreadnought/onliterator.
Fulgrim is next ! And his Emperor's Children. If I had to guess after Fulgrim then I would say Lorgar or Perterabo
I’d like to see the traitors come back the Terra in order to persuade the loyalist to assist them in cleansing a Tyranid threat in the Warp
Traitors pulling themselves from corruption to unite under a common threat would be a 0.0000001% chance of likely hood, but would still be a cool plot
What if Perturabos Armor is what became the Daemon Prince? We know he had some obscure/heretical AI system for targeting and battlefield analysis. He had his android cyborg robot bodyguards too... Legitimate Men Of Iron!
So since we know how Perturabo is about Chaos/ being someones slave, we know that he was dying and Vashtorr and Daemon Engines are part of the lore. So because Perty needed life support but didn't want to go full daemon I say his AI controlled artificer Cataphractii Terminator armor is a Daemon Prince.
Even if he is a Daemon Prince and only took that deal to survive maybe Vashtorr can transfer the daemonic power from him to his armor after going for a swim in that 'Furnace of Forever Tortured Souls' or w/e its called.
After World Eaters they *need* a huge Iron Warriors update. Iron Warriors are classic late 90s and 2000s 40k. That would be awesome.
Omegon, but bring him back as full loyalist. With the Emperor giving Guiliman and Dark Angel dude the only ones that know he's loyal. So it changes nothing but have it look like the imperium is slowly beating back chaos, which leads to Fulgrim or Perty coming back. Last to come back should be Lorgar, who ends up finding out that Omegon is loyal and outs him back to being accepted by the loyalists. You still get the gist of the alpha legion until Lorgar comes back 20 years down the road. They can be played as loyalist or chaos. They'd be the most interesting faction as a new player to try out some chaos rules or imp rules.
Want: Curze - He'd bring a rogue element into the battlefield. They are against the Emperor, but not entirely Pro-Chaos. It would also be fun to see that maybe Curze had Ferrus locked up and had been torturing him for 10k years. Essentially everyone is scared of Curze and he could have new prophecies to declare.
Likely: It'll be Lorgar. He is the most boring of all the Primarchs and will likely have some really odd mechanics to shake up the Chaos Armies Codex.
Honestly, the traitor primarch I want to return and the one I think actually will return are one and the same: Fulgrim. It seems fitting as each of the three who've returned so far are pledged to a specific chaos god with the exception of Slannesh. Once Fulgrim completes the set I think I would then like to see Pertarabo, then Lorgar and finally Omegon.
I want Lorgar to return so long as Corax follows anfter and shoves a claw up his rectory of you catch my meaning.
We also have to look at which potentially loyalist primarch could/would return as a counter to any traitor primarch. Perturabo, surely means Dorn, Lorgar would definitely mean Corax returning. Omegon or Fulgrim, no idea really
Fulgrim is mentioned in the Arcs of Omen, and he has annoyed Abbadon as well
Lorgar cos that would mean we could hear about spooky Corax hunting him.
I'd personally love to see Omegon return as a loyalist, but doing the Alpha Legion shenanigans in a way that the traitor legionaires don't know how their individual actions actually benefit the imperium.
Or maybe there's a shadow civil war between the loyalist and traitor elements in the Alpha legion, with Omegon returning to lead the loyalists.
Rumour has it the new range of Emperors Children and Fulgrim are already done at GW HQ. As is Leman Russ. 👀👀👀
Hydra dominatus
Just got done reading Harrowmaster and I think it would be amazing to see Omegon return to his legion with the missing strength of the legion.
Although it's probably going to be Fulgrim to return next. And that's not a bad thing but I'd want Perturabo back next. Deamon or not him being back would be awesome. Loads of new Deamon engines and siege tanks! Yes please.
I think any traitor that can return and have an intellectual conversation is a win. It really sets the ideologies of Imperium and Chaos in context to each other. Angron is cool, but not as interesting as Lorgar or Perty would be.
it’ll be Perty with the option to take Vashtorr as a “mount”
It is obviously going to be Fulgrim, even though I'd wish it would be Perturabo.
Bringing both Alpharius AND Omegon back, side by side would be epic. Forget Horus and his wana be sucsessor Abadon.
This would put all the loyalist primarchs on edge for this is a threath non can let go, yet nobody has the firepower to take down on their own. Remeber, the legion they ruled never went for the Eye of teror, but is in real space in a 'space hulk' controled by them. Also, this, is not a warband, the counterpart of a chapter, nope. This is a LEGIO astartes, under it's twin primarchs.
These 2 in charge of their full legion, possibly bolstered with primaris seed and organs by the dark mechanicum is chaos most likely bet on a win in the Galaxy.
All the traitor Primarchs except Perturabo has made any real return to real space to soak havoc and "chaos" onto the galaxy, particularly with the Imperium and making their loyalist brothers dead/missing. So a Perturabo return with his legion is something I'd want to see, plus the Lion's and Gulliman's reactions on this.
Perturabo abd the Iron Warriors deserve time in the spotlight
Lorgar would make most sense just to make things go south for Imperium, hard.
But in my heart, I do have to say, Hydra Dominatus!
Fulgrim & the EC are a safe bet. They’ll save Lorgar to setup a Corax return.
i hope its Perturabo who comes back and we see that theres a chance for him to be somewhat a loyalist or just by himself, as remember even thought they have fallen they cut off any mutation and do not accept demons into themselves, or have LOYAL Alpha legion come back would be great
Most logical? Fulgrim or Lorgar.
My personal pick? Really been enjoying the Alpha Legion lore expansion of recent and after watching Iron Within again, I really want to see traitor Breachers. It's really hard to pick, but frankly I'd love to see them all.
Lorgar, because I also want Corax to return and you've also already done Vulkan.
I would think it's Fulgrim for the 6 armed half snake model but like you I'd like Perterobo. Fulgrim is more likely.
Perturabo to return but making a pact with Vashtorr would seem like a good chaos choice to go up against the tyranids.
Bring back my iron boy Perty.. The streets need to know what he looks like
Lmao, your head says Lorgar, heart says Omegon, but your body wants Fulgrim 😂
Perturabo please!!! I would go into debt to build an iron warriors army with a quickness.
Fulgrim. Just to materialize in real space and immediately to be slapped back by someone.
...Perturabo would seem the most effective I think, as the Iron Warriors can bring a great deal of raw power to any given area--that, & I don't think there has ever been an accurate estimate of their true numbers, so they could conceivably deploy in legion strength (which would be frightening).