Which Pepper Spray Has The Best Spray Pattern?
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2022
- The winner is the Sabre flip top: amzn.to/3Sff2Rw
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Other Pepper Sprays used in this video:
Mace Triple Action: Very weak stream amzn.to/3f8dCJK
Mace Pepperguard Pocket: Slightly stronger stream, ran out quick amzn.to/3C9C9r5
Sabre Quick Release: Same size as flip top, different actuator amzn.to/3SyRAhE
Guard Dog Quick Action: Powerful spray, runs out fast amzn.to/3DT1cQh
Guard Dog Accufire with Laser: stupid amzn.to/3fhZaiq
Pom With Pocket Clip: amzn.to/3SfrYXo
Pom With Keychain: amzn.to/3SAcLjI
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The winner is the Sabre flip top: amzn.to/3Sff2Rw
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The sabre gel crossfire that is ~1.5" dia x 4.5" T, is great. Big enough that it's inconvenient, but I would clip it on the front of my shirt or vest while on a walk, so super easy/quick access. It performed well on 2 dogs that came at me. Mugger fogger seems really good but it's bigger.
could always stick or glue something aggressively tactile to it so u have positive feedback that you're holding right without looking
Hey Mike, can you test pepperballs solid projectiles shells out of a 12ga pump shotgun? Regards
Naw buddy... Fox labs cone spray is the one. You sleeping on that product for sure lol
@@iliasgm6081 His tests of other pepperball products would suggest it probably isn't that effective. Pava (pepperball powder) just doesn't have the stopping power of capsaicin/OC. It's an irritant but doesn't really seem to affect the eyes and respiratory system as much.
THE SLIDING TRIGGER IS A NO GO AT ANY PRICE! I USED ONE AND IT WENT OFF IN MY POCKET. I did not notice it until my leg burned with intense pain. I had second degree burns the size of my full hand as a result. It took a month for it to heal. The flip top trigger is the ONLY TYPE TO BUY.
Damn that sucked. I can only imagine the pain that caused 😱
Burn? From mace? That sounds off ..
@@jsl6155 i think if it just sits there and soaks into the skin - for however long he didn't notice it - it would probably burn
That slide one went off in my wifes purse when she was digging through it on the way home one time, No go on the slide, I can confirm.
LMAO who comes up with such bullshit? XDDD
I recommend the POM pocket clip version. It clips on the pocket of your pants and sits inside the pocket and when you need to draw it will be in the correct orientation. Instead of fumbling around in your pocket, purse, keychain, etc. Game changer.
the one i see on amazon has the clip no the wrong side
meaning you cant just pull it right out and point it
you have to pull it out, its pointing AT YOU, now you gotta turn it around the other way
such a dumb overlooked design imo
@@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntmanthe different versions of
POM all have the same cartridge that can be independently rotated snuggly within the outer casing to suit most forms of carry and discharge. I have purchased manny versions of them for various family members and been satisfied. Hope that clarified some misunderstanding .😊
@@chln5052 thanks bro i stared at the amazon picture actually 2 weeks ago for 20 minutes until i realized that it could do that (or atleast i assumed it) i bought that same one ur talkinga bout i think. havent used it yet might use it on myself...lol
p.s. these things are SUPER fast to pull out of a pocket and have it positioned in your hand directly in the position you want. its crazy design tbh.
3 main types of OC:
1) Cone/Fog pattern - wide pattern, don’t have to aim precisely, most effective. However can be blown back by wind and, if used inside a building, will eventually make room temporarily uninhabitable.
2) Stream - all shown in video are stream. The downside is it takes time (not much, but still time) to aim it, sometimes on a moving target.
3) Gel/foam - takes a long time to work, have to aim, & only useful in hospitals or where you can’t expose innocents.
I’m a retired LEO and used the first two types numbers of times. I highly recommend cone/fog (like Fox Cone pattern) for LE or serious situations (not firearms…the only response to a firearm is another firearm). Still, for general day to day I carry a POM or Saber stream. That way I have some non-lethal but I’m not planning to be in a situation. I would never recommend foam/gel unless you’re in a hospital, senior citizen residence, etc. Hope this helps.
Good analysis. And a question for you. The fog/cone is easier to hit with, but isn't it also the most likely to blow back on you in a breeze due to the dispersion? That would seem to be a factor as well.
@@brianwatson4119 Yes. Cone OC saved my bacon at least once because it’s quicker to use and takes effect sooner. However, it’s very susceptible to being blown back by wind and, if used indoors, you and everyone else will get some. That’s why, for general use, I carry POM or Saber Stream. In situations where I can’t carry my pistol, I carry a stream OC AND a Fox cone OC.
Foam sucks targets can wipe it off and throw it back at you.
Can you recommend a good brand for Cone/Fog pattern ?
@@mattmatt245 Fox labs 1.5 oz flip top cone. Make sure it says cone or fog. Amazon often carries it.
As a paramedic, I carry Sabre when I on duty over 10+ years, It never let me down.
I started watching your videos a while back for the martial arts side, but I really enjoy your gear reviews. I carry a Sabre Flip Top whenever I'm in the city, and while I'm lucky to have never had to use it, your video has given me some more confidence in my purchase! Thanks Mike!
Had to use my 3 year old pom the other night while walking the dog...
The results were impressive enough for me to reorder their new extra strength 💪 version...
Love this. I've seen videos like this before but they primarily focused on the product in the can, not necessarily on the delivery. This was enlightening.
I've been using Sabre products for over 40 years, As an Ex-LEO back in the early 80s, I can say from experience that Sabre products are IMO The best available and I highly recommend them, Among those type products, I have the 3-1 quick release key chain version and the Crossfire Gel and the Papa Bear, The Model# M-120L Police Magnum 3-1 Spray, All of these were recently purchased, {With the Gel you want to hit the eyes first and go ear to ear horizontally and then the nose and mouth} The spray is conical so you aim for the face and spray vertically, The eyes will close involuntarily and it will be very difficult to breathe, And it also has Psychological effects, fear and anxiety, The key chain spray says 10ft go with 5-6, The gel 18ft go with 10-14 ft, Sabre uses {High Performance Liquid Chromatography} HPLC It is a technique in analytical chemistry used to separate, identify, and quantify each component in a mixture, The orange smell you spoke of is most likely used as a solvent, So with the oleoresin capsicum being bad, Now you add CS Military Tear Gas for extra burn, And believe me this stuff is Wicked, I've been subscribed to your channel for about a year or so but don't reply often, Stay Safe. 👍
@@safetysense1015 Sounds like you are well protected, If you need a longer range product, The Gel works very well and you don't get as much atomization if used indoors or as much blowback in windy conditions.
@@josephpacchetti5997 gel is great but my favorite is the OC/CS mix. It’s the gift that keeps on giving 😂
I keep sabre gel in my truck. Less likely to get myself in the enclosed area. Thats my assumption anyway.
Thank you for your comment and the information. 😎✌️
Sociopath much?
always seems a great option for avoiding escalating a situation ...thanks for the review!
great video totally worth doing this. With so many brands to choose from it's nice to get an unsponsored review with comparison.
“Recently shot sensei Seth and I was underwhelmed with the results” should be like a channel motto or meme or something now
I just recently got pepper spray so this was very helpful in expectations and how realistically effective they are. It’s good to know you approve of pepper spray as I’m not quite ready to get a gun so I feel it’s a good option for now. Keep it up 💪🏼
This is something that I have always wondered about, so thank you Mike for going through all the trouble and expense to test all these.
He gets them FREE….
I like the POM with the belt clip for its compact size and easy concealment. I can deep conceal inside my front pants pocket or clip it to the edge of a pocket similar to how I carry a flashlight or folder knife. The big flaw with the POM plastic clip is the fact that it does not grip the pants pocket fabric with enough friction to hold it in place. It's constantly at risk of falling off and getting lost, especially when you sit down in a chair. The flaw is easily addressed by attaching a strip of rubber no-slip tape to the body of the sprayer, under where the clip rests. The rubber tape provides plenty of friction to hold it securely for pocket carry. I used the kind of pebbled rubber no-slip tape typically applied to bathtubs. I chose not to use the sandpaper-like abrasive gun grip tape I have because it would tear up the pants fabric too much.
I love how Mike got distracted with spraying the stream,s and forgot that he was hosing out irritant while doing so. Great video as always Mike, looking forward to the next one!
This is by far my favorite channel on CZcams right now. Real self defense advice is extremely difficult to find. I feel like we found it here fellas ❤️
This was a wonderful review on different ones to choose. Thank you so much for doing this.
Love your pepper spray videos. My test just posted with Sabre Red really impressed me. I got more volume out of the tiny pocket sized EDC than I expected. It's a great option.
I run approximately 20 Miles a week with a Sabre in my hand, I know it works, has a good stream and lasts
@@nunyabizness3882 It's fits perfect in the hand and is so light. Great for runners!
Sabre RED has a max strength TACTICAL PEPPER GEL WITH HOLSTER it is 1.8 oz vs the 0.54 oz (more than 3 time the amount of liquid) of the winning spray in this videos testing. The Tactical Pepper Gel sprays up to 18 ft vs 10 ft for the winning spray, and it is less likely to blow back in the users face if there is a a breeze or wind. This works great to carrying on your person, but I keep a 9.2 oz canister of Sabre Frontiersman Max strength bear spray in my car for those special road rage POS. After the non-lethal it is send them to Jesus time.
I had this (I believe-I know it was Sabre RED gel), and when I had to use it DRIPPED down on my hand.@@chrisdaniel1339 It still sprayed, but I was not pleased at having a burning red-stained hand while I was fleeing an assault. That's why I switched to POM (stream, not a spray or gel, and clear)-it also didn't drip on my hand when I had to use it on someone.
Thanks Hard 2 hurt. This video was very helpful. Such a great concept.
Hey Mike have you guys thought to do a video on OC/pepper spray recovery? When I went through the police academy we had people trying the dumbest stuff to get past the spray. Milk, no more tears baby shampoo etc... The only thing I thought worked at all was some emergency eye wash someone decided to bring that they got from CVS. Great video as always. Keep it up!
The most effective thing will be a constant stream of water, to get it away. With the baby shampoo it should work just a bit better. The milk would only help temporarily, you can't keep up the flow like with water from the tap
I think the best is 50% malox and 50 % water
I think cause oc spray is an oil, dish soaps that break down oil such as dawn will probably be one of the most effective long term. Milk might cool it temporarily but to get it out of your System faster you would have to wash out the oils
What makes pepper spray work is capsaicin concetrate, which is an oil. Anything that breaks down oils is what you want. I make a lot super hot pepper sauces with reapers scorpions, and ghost peppers (about 50-60% potency of police pepper spray) and when I get that shit on my face the only thing that helps is dishsoap and water. I would imagine its the same for pepperspray.
@@jmn-5554 I'm not sure using dish soap in your eyes would be a very good idea...
Ive used many types of pepper sprays and sprayed many people and the best ive used was Fox Labs Foam. It flys so far and hits so hard and activates pretty quickly.
Bro out here spaying and praying 😂
I carry Pom, and I like it because it's small, concealable, and I can turn the belt clip any way I want. It goes in my pocket the same way every time and I pull it out the same way every time. I've had trouble with sprays that didn't allow you to adjust the clip in relation to the nozzle.
I like that POM is inconspicuous, it doesn't really look like a can of pepper spray.
As someone who also carries Pom I like that I can rotate the pocket clip to where I want it to be oriented when I grab it out of my pocket.
I carry pom as well
POM is a good spray. Very hot. 1.4% is a crazy hot spray. It's hotter than what most police carry.
Absolutely worthwhile video, I will be picking up a Sabre. Probably two now that I know to get a practice one.
Thanks for demonstrating the different types.
I like your choice.
I have a Sabre that's also good for emergency seat belt removal and emergency car window breaker.
This was a great video and quite helpful. I never thought about telling everyone that they need to get two. I've always just so I can tell my peeps which one. But that's great advice.
I think this was the best closing I've seen in your videos. Thanks again sir.
Super cool, I’m picking up some guard dog for sure, thanks Mike!
Very helpful. Thank you for doing this!
definitely a helpful demonstration, thank you.
This was really good! I needed a video like this
Definitely worth your time. Thank you.
Thanks for the video, REALLY APPRECIATED!!!
Hey Mike - I know it would be a glutton-for-punishment affair, but a video on the effecacy of the various sprays - higher / lower percentage of the OC component, First Defense, Sabre, POM, Fox Labs to see which spray is more likely to stop someone's aggression toward you or make it harder for them to fight. Maybe a Houston Jones collab, since he likes engaging in punishing behaviour.
I'm really late but, while this is an anecdote, the most effect I found were UDAP Mugger Fogger, DPS Black Label and Heatwave
Fox 5.3 is a law enforcement standard. I've sprayed many people over the years on the job. You cannot beat fox.
I'm a law enforcement training instructor. I've been sprayed many times so I can give you my quick thoughts. I've been sprayed with sprays as low as .2% MC and as high as 1.4% MC. Most pepper sprays used by police agencies come in at 1.3%. In my opinion, I can't tell the difference between 1.3% and 1.4% when getting sprayed. They are both super hot. However, I can tell a difference in the effects of a stream vs fogger. Fogger works faster, causes me to cough more and is way worse. Mace contains CS in their formula. That's why it has that orange smell. I've been sprayed with OC/CS mixtures before and I don't think they work better than straight OC. If your carrying spray for personal protection, POM is way hot enough. If your looking for a bigger police size can, Sabre Red, Defense Technology and FOX are the three brands that are used by most police agencies here in the US.
As far as stopping power, fogger is king. However, everybody reacts different when getting sprayed. Some people panic and others don't. Some people have instant effects and some take a couple of seconds before the spray kicks in. Either way, as someone who has sprayed many people in my LE career, it almost always works.
@@user-zm6yh3ux7l Buenas Noches !!!
Cual es el Gas pimienta más caliente o más potente para usted...
SABRE RED, FOX, O POM??
Thank you!!!
Excellent video! Great breakdown!Thanks
I like POM because it's so easy to carry, especially if your used to carrying a tactical style flashlight. If you put a stripe of Talon Tape down the side, it gives you great traction pulling it out of your pocket.
I have carried Sabre for years ( i buy a new one every year or so ) i am glad to see it works well. I haven't tested it like that. Thanks for the content 👍
I got Sabre pepper gel
Thanks definitely worthwhile, I also carry sabre flip top.
This was great! Thank you!
Great, no-nonsense video! Thank you. Will absolutely get a "Sabre" flip-top for my girls at university. WORTHWHILE video and I'm SUBSCRIBED.
Excellent insight. My wife and I have been carrying mace for the past 18 months, that’ll be changing now.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you for answering the questions we all have which is the best. Average people don't have the money to spend just to test pepper spray. So thank you for giving us the knowledge on which direction to go in.
Agree****
Excellent info!
this was great. John over at ASP has me sold on POM, but you got me reconsidering the Sabre flip top. Another thing that helps is knowing if there's water trainers to use which both POM and Sabre appear to have so that's good.
I try to rotate my POM out every couple months, then I use my old ones for practice.
The problem with product placements is that they can sway opinions away from objective functionality that has been illustrated in videos including this one.
Long story short, POMs suffer from poor ergonomic issues, and I see that as an unnecessary problem when Saber does not have the same issue.
Ideally, self defense tools should be easy to index, without you having to look at it, presumably because you are going to be too busy defending yourself. That is objectively more important to me than pretty packaging and brand recognition simply because they sponsor a popular CZcams channel.
@Timothy Fox this dude has. Never held a POM pepper spray. Saber doesn't even make a spray with a usable pocket clip
sabre is pretty weak
I find the POM to be quite ergonomic, and I've used both Sabre RED and POM to defend myself. Also, the Sabre RED (gel) DRIPPED ON MY HAND, which I was not pleased with.@@Pouncer_Fox
Miss this type of weapon/self defense tool test videos
I carry POM because John at Active self protection recommended it. Belt clip style and I keep it in my hand pointed out ready to use in transitional spaces. Thanks for the video. Very informative.
I’m sure Pom is effective and he cares about giving people good recommendations but he is sponsored by them so makes sense why he hyped it up
I've used Sabre RED gel, and switched to POM after I had to deploy it-I've also had to deploy POM, and I will continue using that brand.
You are covering your ASP
John makes $$$$ by pushing POM! I have 3 😂😂😂😂😂
Very helpful! Thank you.
That was definitely worthwhile video thank you
Yes. This was very helpful.
Excellent Review! Always wonder which one was better
This was useful thanks
I like POM because of its easy to carry. I have it on my everyday.
I'd like to see more product testing videos like this. The tactical whip video I've shown to several people. It's just fun content.
Yes, this is good content, I trust your objectivity which makes your reviews like this credible.
I appreciate what you do. Great, helpful content as always.
Thank you, this was a good video. 💯
Ty spicy mike! Great stuff
Thanks for that. I need to train my nieces up on using pepper spray and kicking in the groin. Thanks for your recomendation on the spray.
Hey mike, did you review the self defence umbrella?
Love your vids, thanks!
Great video thanks 🙏
Thanks, I carry pom and will see what alteration I can do to it for better indexing.
Very Informative Video Sir. 👍
This was great. I've been trying to figure out which pepper spray to carry without having to spend hundreds of dollars and doing this test myself.
If I'm not too late, best keychain imo is POM. But for best regular 2oz to 4oz size, you'd be best going with UDAP Mugger Fogger, DPS Black Label or Heatwave
@@ManiacMayhem7256 Thanks. I ended up getting the Sabre Red with the flip top through their affiliate link.
H2H, the best self defense channel on CZcams!
I have also tested and practiced with various pepper sprays, and I also find saber to be my overall favorite. I like the way they make their containers and the pepper spray definitely works.
Sabre Red is great as is Sabre Blue Face. I also like POM. DPS Black Label and Heatwave I've also found a lot of success with
@@ManiacMayhem7256 Hola, cual es más picante o más fuerte de los Sprays que mencionas??
Thank you!!!
Kimber blaster2 is my carry, great video!
Excellent! Thank you.
ty for this video
*Thank You very much Sir!*
Last time I was this early Mike had hair.
BS. There was no youtube in 1997.
Last time i was that early i had a girl over night.
he had hair?
Mike had hair at one point?
Wait he had hair!?!?
This was great and with all the pepper brands you could make this a mini series ❤.
I'd love to see UDAP Mugger Fogger, DPS Black Label and Heatwave. I've seen those as the most effective
@@ManiacMayhem7256 sup bro I carry fox labs 1.4 in my jacket and Pom on pocket. Dude check out Olight baton 3 my odc flashlight!
We use the POM pepper spray w/clip and it's been a good product when used while we lived in California. To make it a little easier for orientation, we simply added a little raised sticker bump to the front so when we grab it out of our pocket or my wife from her purse, we can feel that bump and we know which way to point and fire it.
I was about to purchase POM, but thanks to this demonstration and pointing out that its almost too sleek in design, I think I will go with the Sabre for EDC then Fox as a back up for the purse and home.
Awesome content!!
Good video. I carry the Mace pocket, but I'll switch to the Sabre one now.
I carry a POM w/belt clip every day alongside my firearm. Having a compact, less lethal option for self defense has been a very welcomed addition to my EDC.
The post office issues us "Back off" dog repellent. I used it on a pit bull mix that came at me the other day. At about 10 feet I hit the dog in the eyes, and nose. The dog immediately put his tail between his legs and backed off. I know dog spray isn't mace, but they're both a capsasin spray.
The POM with the belt clip option allows you to ergonomically place it where you can orient it easily within 2 sec.
Because of this guy I was forced to get the stinger tactical whip,,,really pleased with it .
Thank you for the video. I think I may get the SABRE flip top. 👍
My wife and I carry the POM mostly because our firearms instructor recommended it. I did find out that it was a bit hard to feel the little nub on the front. But if you get the clip type, I can easily feel the clip and it goes towards the bend of your fingers. Plus, especially my wife will actually stage it if she’s in an area that could be sketchy. Like when pumping gas at night. It does have a great stream. I decided to take an exposure to it during one of our classes. Yeah, it was really nasty shit. Slammed my eyes shut in a matter of 5 to 7 seconds.
Luv your channel
Great vid! Saves us lots of money also trial and error.
I love these, but you really need a sidekick to test them on💪👍
"sidekicks don't work"
I thought it was a worthy video. I also have the Sabre ones. They seem easy to use in a panic situation.
Capsaicin percentage is really important too, and batch consistency. Clearly the answer is to buy a few dozen and spray them on your face to test potency and consistency.
Clearly.
This is my anecdote but personally the most effective I've seen and tested were UDAP Mugger Fogger, Heatwave and DPS Black Label
Awesome! Can you do a similar side-by-side for tactical flashlights?
Very good use of your time!!!
Sabre gel is by far the best ! Nice hard steam, with no blow back, and it sticks to the face of the attacker.👍🏻
Hi from the UK. In England we use PAVA which can be used with TASER.
PLEASE REVIEW SAP GLOVES/TACTICAL GLOVES! As a total pedestrian they are the only self defense tool I have used in real situations and they gave me a massive edge. They protect your knuckles, add mass to your punch, increase the hardness of your hand, support your wrist, etc. If you even barely know how to throw a punch you could Maul an equal opponent that is bare knuckles. They also allow you to still grapple with both hands. THEY CHECK ALL YOUR BOXES MIKE JUST TRY THEM!
I’m interested to see if anyone could use the pepper spray under stress or with different setups. Years ago, I had a pepper spray key chain. The spray can was in a leather sleeve with a fold over leather top. I realized it would be cumbersome to use.
Excellent job and I appreciate you doing it instead of me lol. You did help tremendously with choosing a good self defence spray 👍👍
These are indeed good, but the hottest here is POM. But the hottest of all time not in video is Heatwave Napalm, Fox Labs One Point Four and DPS Black Label
Good stuff I learned from this
Thanks!
Fox has been my go to brand, for over 20 years. Devastating heat/pain. (I get the 2 ounce, flip-top, cone spray). I've heard ok things about Sabre, but I've never tried it.
Fox 1.4 is the best Fox has to offer. It's available on NWSelfDefense
Cool video thanks.
POM is the hands down winner. great *er*gonomics. and the bottom half can be spun so it is ready to go whether right hand or left.
with a tiny bit of practice it can be employed in an instant. i carry it every day and have given it to friends and family.
I want to be the test subject for all these gadgets 👌🤣 I had to subscribe after the mace gun, really enjoy your channel thanks for taking time to make good videos.
As for different brands: FOX Labs offers a pepper spray with a green dye in it to mark whoever it's used on supposedly to help authorities find them, and I wonder how well that actually stains skin/clothes.
Also, if you could test pepper spray versus pepper gel. I've heard pepper gel gets used in hospitals to prevent hitting unintended targets, and I'm curious to how effective the gel is once it's hit a person.
There are some videos on Active self protection where OC is used. The gel ones tend to work worse than jet streams or simple sprays.
Why: the gel does not vaporize like a fluid spray does. With sprays you don't have to hit the eyes/mouth/nose directly for some immediate effect, with gel you must hit these areas. If you just hit an area like the chest, the attacker won't really notice it before he gets to you.
But this is also the positive for gels, you won't endanger others around that much. A spray would be awful indoors, the vapors would be everywhere (as seen in this video, and this was outdoors)
Personally, I carry a Jet stream one, this way you get a bit less of a cloud while you still get some reach and some vapors on the target.
So in the end it really depends on the kind of situation you might need one for
I've read gel sounds cool but in an up close scenario enclosed. The attacker could wipe some of the missed gel on your face if he grabs you.
Sabre also has something similar with the Sabre Blue Face