Why Stupid People Think They're Smart [The Dunning-Kruger Effect]
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- How knowledge works and why stupid people think they're smarter than the smart people who think they're stupid.
(The Dunning-Kruger Effect)
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“Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
Being at both places. Already argued with stupid people and also was the stupid guy arguing with a smart one. It's just an ego thing.
The smart person will always use logic, which becomes the bane of his existence because the stupid person would just start saying the most ass-backwards dumb shit, he puts it out like diarrhea and the smart person just has to keep on trying to clean up after this idiots feces
@@prezadent1 no
False. If someone is wrong, convince them by arguing. Lol
@@prezadent1 Elon may have used the quote, but it is not his (but indeed Mark Twain's), and I'll leave it at that before you drag me down to your level and beat me with experience.
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand" - Bertrand Russell
You talking about bible? 🤣
@@nu-nisamiracle2401 You might be one of those people...
@@thedarkmatterplanet what those peoples? 🙄
@@nu-nisamiracle2401 The ones referenced in the video who think they know everything due to knowing so little. You're on a religious crusade against religion while not realizing your actually a useful idiot for a religious cult.. This is evident by your bringing up the Bible for the express purpose of mocking it when it was so far off topic it couldn't have been seen by the James Webb telescope.
@@thedarkmatterplanet what are you talking about man? That Quote from Russel suit the bible perfectly.. full of mistakes due to traNslation erRors.. 🙄
I'll give you one example.. how many peoples following moses in his Exodus according to the bible? 600,000? 🙄
ArceoLogy literally reFuted that you know.. 🙄
And the Jew reFuted that too.. coz the word in their Torah doesn't only read as "six hundred thousand" but also can be read as "six hundred cLan heaD".. 🙄
Only your bible says it's 600,000 due to traNslation erRor.. 🙄
The bible has many mistakes like that.. 🙄
Do you want me to coNtinue giving you those example? 🙄
I got many.. really really many.. like john 1:1.. 🙄
I'm only saying the truth.. 🙄
"Humility is one of the most underrated values in the world " no truer words were ever said...
Unfortunately humility is commonly punished and arrogance rewarded. Try being humble in your next interview if you don't believe me.
"I too, am extremely humble"
"A man who is possessed by his shadow is always standing in his own light and falling into his own traps...living below his own level." - Carl Jung
I LOVE THIS THEORY. This gentleman presents the theory with much humility!!!
- when people say you can have your own opinions, but you can’t have your own facts: HOW CAN WE PEACEFULLY and RESPECTFULLY communicate these 4 Quadrants!!!
Here is one of MY Methods that I have been doing before I knew this theory existed:
When I coach little kids, I ALWAYS tell them that it is OK not to know EVERYTHING!!!!
- EVERY BODY IS LEARNING!!! :)
- There is ALWAYS something new to learn 💪💪💪
Side Note: I heard a wise coach once say: take the information given to you!!!!
- I add to this wise coach (even though, this is what he was communicating WITHOUT saying it): TAKE the information and see if it applies to you/your situation. Keep Your Aim and Make adjustments with this new information!!!! Cheers to Everyone :)
Last Thing I will communicate on this Topic (for now): I ALWAYS joke with my son about learning.
- one way I do this is: I SAY Derek Jeter is a Retired-Hall of Fame, Baseball Expert/Professional/ Former MLBer….AND EVEN Derek Jeter is STILL LEARNING!!!!
In Closing:
If you like Pina Coladas, Getting Caught in the Rain…..
@@kain52002I tried that today in an interview actually lol and I was only there 20 minutes, had I been there any longer the conversation could’ve went anywhere 😂
I've been a teacher for 20+ years, so I'm literally getting schooled everyday, and I'm pretty certain that I'll die much more ignorant than I was born. Seriously though, you've earned yourself a subscription; this is great content.
The more you learn, the more you learn about how little you know.
How does this video explain the Dunning-Kruger effect and its implications?
Through engaging animation and clear concise narration, this piece illuminates the Dunning-Kruger cognitive bias whereby incompetence breeds illusory superiority.
Initial vignettes demonstrate how lacking ability to assess skills incorrectly signals proficiency as benchmarks remain unknown.
Charts visually convey the divergence between actual and perceived talent as tasks are attempted, revealing incompetents most inaccurate in self-assessment.
Real world examples illustrate this "low ability, high self-confidence" dynamic statistically across domains from driving to comedy.
Further discussion poses the effect partially explains polemic certainty on complex issues without expertise.
Overall, unpacking this counterintuitive phenomenon cultivates both intellectual humility and awareness of subjective limitations. It offers perspective on overconfidence and highlights the importance of accurate self-reflection in procuring knowledge and wisdom.
By concisely communicating social science, the video inspires application of empirical findings to everyday life and discourse.
I disagree. Sadly yes you will die, but know that you will do so an already great teacher, and the vital prerequisite should not be described as ignorance if that is even possible., I believe that even "humility" doesn't cover anyone's true potential on this important topic.. But your awareness and language informs that you know you are also first and foremost and forever also a "student" is at the very least the best I can come up with, today, and also the highest compliment i can muster today on this excellent channel and comment. Not my best effort by a long shot, but practicing at every opportunity, with care, to try to a better thinker, and integrated human being.
@@zeppelin16 this comment was soo useless, it sounds like Ai wrote it and then you edited with a thesaurus
You may be right. My friend and I were discussing that we thought the older we get, the better decisions we'd make. But, it seems to be the opposite a lot of the time.
My father told me at a young age, "Knowing you're Stupid, is the first step to being Smart." Didn't get it at the time, but it made me proud of not knowing things and inquisitive about everything.
I've never once met someone who is "smart" that thinks they are stupid. Our entire society is ruled by PhD elitists, who fancy themselves better than all the "uneducated" rubes.
After reading this post several times over, I still don't understand what you're trying to say here. How can inverse opposites actually create a philosophical truth? Does an admission of ignorance open a door of opportunity, allowing experience and unbiased absorbtion of knowledge to wash over you? I like cake, yet I would never say I can only really enjoy cake when I admit how I'll never understand it's taste. Sounds like stuff from a LA Fortune Cookie, written by Confusion-ists. TEE HEE I'm just messing about.
*being
Upon first glance that sounds iffy, but after a moment of thought, it's dead on.
Hell yeah.
One of the more disturbing examples of people feeling attacked when they're presented with data that's proving them wrong (and therefore doubling down on their assumption) is with detectives who will blindly continue to pursue and even wrongly convict someone they believe to be the perpetrator of a crime, even when evidence starts to prove them innocent. This exact scenario has happened before, and it's terrifying.
which is why the detectives present a case, they don't do the conviction.
@@luizmonad777
What's really disturbing is when that intersects with the number of people who assume that if someone was arrested, they must be guilty of SOMETHING or the police wouldn't have arrested them. Ontop of that there's way too much deference in the general population towards the testimony of cops, even in the face of conflicting video evidence.
That's when they start the name calling and projection.
That’s narcissism
Amen
100 percent agree with this effect. I meet people daily with the worst diets. And they always say "I eat healthy." I almost never argue with them.
Yeahh, people know subconsciously that it's bad but ignore the facts. If you ignore yourself then that's what makes them dumb.
My biggest takeaway from this is that we’re all susceptible to cognitive bias and dissonance. I once tried to be “completely objective” in all parts of my life and found it to be not only impossible, but totally impractical as well. Life is a journey. Try to have as much empathy and compassion for others on their journey. Keep your eyes and your ears open.
You are right, what is called cognitive dissonance serves a purpose in a great many cases. In essence, it allows us to function. The trick is realizing when you're wrong and it is hurting you.
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Two of my favorite lines from Tao Te Ching: "Those who know don't talk, and those who talk don't know." And, "Ignorance of knowledge is sickness. Knowledge of ignorance is wisdom. The one who is sick of being sick is no longer sick."
I am sick of being sick but that won't make my Crohns Disease go away.
Where were you ten years ago...
Was wondering when someone would bring up the Toa.
@@Skenjin Mood.
@@Skenjin -- hmmm, I'm thinking he was referring to a kind of intellectual sickness? But you prolly knew that already.
I usually tell my students, “Never argue with someone that isn’t open to being wrong, and never argue with someone if you aren’t willing to be wrong.”
As a future teacher I'm going to use that philosophy with my students. Thank you for that!
I like that better than how Mark Twain said it.
I have been steadily learning that after quite a few people online did not change their minds or even change their _responses_ after I explained multiple ways why I disagreed with them and/or they were wrong.
@Balanc-Joy918 I've learned from both the experience you just described and my social psychology class I've taken that there are actually a few ways to make someone be more open minded! I've even tried them with reliable success!
@@balanc-joy9187 So, are you trying to change their minds or yours?
All I can say is "yes, and there is so much more for me to learn about this topic." I try very hard to stay in the self-aware, constant learner space. Love this!
Beautiful. Topic. Never. Argue with. The..
S. People. They. Won't. Understand. The. Cons. ND. Prosperity. Of. D. Topic😂 vv. Knowledgeable. Knowledgeable
Cons. N. Pros
Want. To. Learn .More. n .more😂
Yeah. It’s hard especially when you cling onto ideas. It’s just nice with the comfort you know something and the idea you need to learn more can be overwhelming. Like man there’s so much.
I think one of the most humble and easy things you can do is ask questions. Whenever I'm starting a new job or introduced to a new way of thinking I ask myself and others a ton of questions, the more the better. Gives you a good mix of ideas or ways to perform a task. I have found that the person who knows it all generally doesn't know jack. Great content!
I remember my piano teacher’s husband humbling my father with this principle. He said, “Smart people aren’t the loudest in a room. They also know they don’t know everything.” That stuck with me.
Incredible, and so true.
Exacly
I have friend who I don't even wanna begin correcting him because he'll just double down and try to talk his way into a win with bullshit logic
Insecurity is loud, confidence is quiet
@@petrifiedviewer we all have that one guy near us
It’s wild af how real this is, recently I’ve started to notice that when I learn more about something I usually become less confident in my knowledge and abilities because I’ve learned how much I still need to learn and even then there will always be things I’ll never learn or even dream of. If that makes sense.
That is by definition the Dunning Krueger effect, it makes perfect sense.
Last night, I lost a $1000 camera drone, because I, with 125 hours experience flying it, handed the remote to my assistant with 3 hours of experience, thinking she'd easily fly it back for the 30th time. She did not, in fact, fly it back.
It’s so true cuz If you become “smart” then it means you’re accepting you know very little and you’re open to learning alot more…but a stupid person is confident that they have all the info they need
As a 1400 rated chess player I thought I was pretty clever, but at 2000 I've never felt more dumb 😅
No, this isn't real at all. DKE is overestimation of one's knowledge or ability. If you're underestimating your knowledge or ability, that is the "imposter syndrome", the opposite of DKE.
Also, knowledge has nothing to do with generalized doubt. You can be 100% sure about a particular subject and be 100% correct. At the same time, you can be 100% correct yet still be 100% doubtful in general.
My husband and I talk about this all the time as multiple decades deep into our respective careers. It's the joy of learning and the continued development of lifelong skills and the ideas that keep it interesting
Dude. I just ran across your page. You fucking rock. I can't tell you how much I can relate. I've been a professor for 10 years, a government trainer (on cyber) for 16 years, and a seeker of truth via logic, reasoning, and the scientific method for 25 years. DK is one of favorite things to bring up. You carry on sir. You are doing the good work!
“It can be quite difficult to win an argument against one who is clever, but it is always downright impossible to win an argument against someone who is stupid”
- Douglas Adams
You can't win an argument with someone who tries harder to win than to be right. But that just means you already have.
You made that up
@@geoffreyrush9708 literally everything's made up 🤷♂️
Might explain Douglas's obsession of blowing up the earth.😆
Do you have blind faith that life began from random Chaos?
Can you show one example of Darwinian evolution (one species into another) today without fossil records?
Or the law of the universe that brings life from nothing?
Mark, your "Why Stupid People Think They're Smart" is well done and the mind images and visual images you use are awe inspiring. LOVED THEM. Trying to float new concepts to a profession is no less easy than trying to argue politics online. I enjoyed that post immensely.Thank you.
Never seen anything from you before but this is SO GOOD! So true in every aspect of life. Don't think the medical world is different (my environment). I just realized that having worked in so many different cultures slightly inoculate you from having too firm beliefs since you are not heavily investing in one group. Thank you life!
It also explains why logic is useless when you come to a new place and want to share other clinics (not your own, God forbid!) experiences and knowledge.
I'm rambling but this clip got me viewing some situations from a different angle and it's really refreshing! Thank you!
I have a great example of this in my personal experience. In High School my best friend and I started playing racquetball because it was cheap and fun. We read the rules and figured the rest out on our own, developing strategies that worked against one another. When we could get other friends to come play with us, we did very well because they knew even less than us, so we thought we were pretty good.
Then I got to college and took a racquetball class for PE and discovered that people who know what they are doing play a completely different strategy and everything I had practiced was completely useless. I was like a toddler trying to play basketball with an NBA All-Star. In my little world I had no idea about everything that I didn't know.
Yeah the same happens when learning to play chess, unless you actively seek out better players to beat you, you won't learn anything.
At least you had fun playing it. There is value in fun too!
Similar story with me and my (British) buddies working overseas back in the 70’s. We taught ourselves backgammon from the instructions on the box, thought we were pretty good at it after a few months. Then our Lebanese co-workers came to hang out with us. Turns out it’s their national fuckin game or something,,, they pissed all over us, Every. Single. Bloody. Game….. at a high speed of action accompanied by a vocal volume that had never occurred to any of us!
This is my friend and I with Warhammer right now. I'm sure my nasty strategies will be nil in a tournament.
This can apply to a lot of things, even to videogames. You don't know how much you don't know until somebody that knows shows you
I remember talking to my dad back in the 90's. He asked me why there are so many stupid people and I told him that, in my experience, stupid people didn't know they were stupid. That took him completely by surprise. I didn't know why that was true (and thanks for the video explaining it!) but I had experienced a lot of it myself so I was pretty sure. I explained that it made me want to have people explain themselves more and listen. If they really were dumb, they couldn't explain it well and if they weren't then I'd learn something new.
A full year later he told me that he wished I had not shared that experience. He said "what if I'm stupid and just don't know it?" We both had a good laugh but then he thanked me. My father was one of the most thoughtful, humble, and awesome people I have ever known so now I wonder if he really hadn't realized it before or just proud I had figured it out? I wish I could ask him.
""what if I'm stupid and just don't know it?""
This is always in relation to something else. You need only be as smart as you need to be.
Thanks for sharing this.
The question he's asking itself is a sign of doubt. And doubt never arises in a person adverse to change (stupids). So your dad maybe onto something.
@@ereh2622even if not the brightest I like when people ask similar things because it shows they are at least teachable
As I like to say, the only difference between smart people and stupid people is smart people know they're stupid. That's my summation of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. As Socrates was reported to have said, wisdom begins with knowing you know nothing.
dude....DUDE!!!!! Mark, you a wise beyond words. in fact, every word you said in this video hits hard. Accurate and logical information falls on too many deaf ears in this world. It's sad, really. Haven't seen too many of your videos yet, I'm a recent subscriber and am currently reading your book. Keep up the great work! By the way, I love your elegancy and fluency of derogatory language. It's truly an art you have mastered lol
This is the first video of yours I've ever seen - I'm only halfway through and I already want to watch more of your stuff! Great lesson, humor, and self-awareness (and plea for us to have the same!).
I laughed so hard at the "being aware of cognitive bias doesn't make us immune to it" because what you were saying just before that I was already thinking "No, I'm still a freakin idiot because I know myself and know that I still fall prey to my biases". Being no less susceptible to my biases even when I recognize them means that when I notice I feel like an idiot again.
That’s called humility
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NO, DON'T FEED HIS EGO
@@josegonzales9169 nah mate, I can tell this guy doesnt have an ego. Just let him be selfish for a little, its healthy in smaller quantities...
lol same, “im working on it” “crap I did it again” “damnit.”
most people have that thought, it’s just that CZcamsrs are narcissist by nature so they instantly get a higher opinion of themselves. You have to be a special kind of vain to make your job recording yourself.
This perfectly aligns with the saying “the more you know, the more you realize how little you know.”
The more you know is exactly that. You know
More, you just cant know it all, even if you lived 500years.
Its not about what you know, its about how you use what you know and why.
There you
Go, saved 15 years of questions😅
@@andreichetan4694 u right
Because my experience has shown me that the more information I have about a given subject, the more my thinking and my opinions about it evolve and change, I always refrain from taking strong positions on any issue that I do not know that much about. And even on matters I know well and have firm positions on, I always bear in mind that I might still be wrong.
I'm a 65 year old man. And, I can honestly say that of all the people I've ever met or have known only three struck me as 100% genuine, honest, humble and with zero ego to defend or protect. One is actually a retired highway patrol officer. I have always admired them for those qualities more than any other. A feat that I have yet to conquer.
"A man who is possessed by his shadow is always standing in his own light and falling into his own traps...living below his own level." - Carl Jung
As a military officer the fact that you don’t know, what you don’t know is a frightening part of the job. Humility and empathy combined with a willingness to learn are the highest qualities a leader can posses.
I can't be certain since I'm not an officer, but I feel as though the phrase "that's on me, I'll take the hit on that" is beat into officers heads as often as I hear it lol
@@jldude84 sounds like you have some good brass boss. Not all will take the hit for their folks.
@user-ix4he4zt3t Oh I'm aware lol but I just feel like I hear that specific line much more from officers than from enlisted folks.
I wish I had more officers like you when I served.
Humility was not a big part of my commands repertoire.
I knew a few great officers that earned respect rather than demand it and you sound like them.
I had plenty of officers that would not admit to their failure and would rather take it out on the unit than to just own up to it.
I'd say the world absolutely rewards the "dumb" confident people that say they know everything. It's seen as confidence to most. Confidence earns more work, promotions, partners, etc. Being smart enough to know that you don't know much is horrible because you have no confidence and you don't get rewarded in society unless you have confidence. I'm not smart at all, I'm just smart enough to be self conscious about everything I don't know.
I think this depends. I could see this being the case in some situations, but the people I see make it the furthest and get the most respect in life have both. Confidence to share their voice and also admit when they are wrong.
There's a thin line between arrogance and confidence and most folks cant tell the difference, but usually a bullshit artist will hit a glass ceiling eventually where as, at least in my experiences, talent and hard work will always trump it. I've stolen multiple "promotions" from just keeping my head down, mouth shut and doing instead of talking.
This is true. I lost in traffic court because I really wasn't 100% sure about something - had I just played confidence I would have won. I still find humility better, but it can really cause problems in some areas.
Stupid confidence works until it blows up in your face. For it to consistently work you either need a lot money, you need to shift the blame, or find a way to explain it away.
Straight through me bruh, could not have said how I feel better myself! That being said, get some self confidence! 😘
I’m an addiction counselor with 34 years in recovery, myself. I’ve been humiliated by people with opposing views. I also see exactly what you are talking about, both in me and in my clients.
Humiliated how?
Typo. Not humiliation.
Can’t remember, for the life of me, what I meant.
Planting the seed instead of changing people's mind is really good thought!
Thanks for the video!
I had a mysterious illness about 10 yrs ago and was seen by multiple doctors who all had theories about what it could be. I finally got in to see a world renowned specialist at Hopkins with a one year waiting list and he was the first doc to admit that often, illnesses go undiagnosed and you never find out what actually caused the symptoms. He was the perfect example of knowing what he didn’t know because he was so knowledgeable about the topic.
Did you cure it or did it go away on its own ?
@@-na-nomad6247 it just went away on its own. When the Hopkins dr ran my blood tests, my antibodies came back high for Dengue fever but it was never confirmed by the CDC so it remains a mystery but I almost died in the ICU.
Mastery is knowing what assumptions a field is built on, imo.
Same here. Keep up the fighting! God bless you
Good Dr
This is why I say critical thinking skills are some of the most important and overlooked skills for someone to learn. You don’t need to have an answer for everything, it’s impossible. But you can easily question absolutely everything.
Very good point
Here we see the effect in motion, I’m glad I could witness your expertise
Because obviously I’m very learned on the subject too. We’re both exceptions to the general rule
@@moosenllama4292 ahhhh yes, someone who instead of taking a little bit of advice or information and building on it himself, attempts sarcasm and makes himself look like an ass. Thank you for showing your expertise on being an ass.
@@moosenllama4292 I’m usually very good at having decent conversations but if ya want I can be really good at being petty and making you cry if you’d like that? Some people like to be dominated and tied up, is that what you’re into? Maybe spanked and spit on? If you’d like, you can call me daddy.
@@woodersonandmelbatoast6043 you’re welcome
What a great video! I too wish more people knew humility. Saying that you don't know something is very hard for people these days.
What an excellent video. It took me years to unlearn what I had learned, to paraphrase Yoda, regarding religion. Was brought up Protestant Christian, but I gradually started questioning and learning more and more until I realized…no one knows anything when it comes to the supernatural. Belief, when it comes to religion, is taught and constantly reinforced by your community and family. I blew my own mind. 😆
One of my art teachers told us the exact same thing about things taking time to sink in. He was like "I'm telling you this stuff now, but chances are you'll only start understanding and using it 2 years from now". I didn't get it at the time, but since then, so many past lessons started making sense as I kept working as a freelancer, so I guess he was right.
Yeah, she's cool..
I've even noticed that your knowledge of particular things can also expand or strengthen over time whether you are actively exercising that knowledge or skill or have not even thought about it in years.
For example, my mother taught me to cook when I was ten or eleven. She showed me how to make entire meals, follow recipes, do measurements, cutting using different knives, using various appliances, baking, broiling, browning, boiling, steaming. The basics. When she went back to work I helped out by making dinner a few times a week until I got my own job in high school. Then I really didn't cook all that much for several years. But when I got my own place with a decent kitchen I realized that I no longer needed recipes to make a dish but could often eat something new at a restaurant and then go home and figure it out on my own, and I had unconsciously picked up a lot of new things over the years like substitutions and converting units, which had somehow become second nature to me.
Observation may take 1 to 2 years to notice changes . I see this in gardening.
As a brilliant sage once said: the waiting is the hardest part
In graduate school where there were actual consequences for not doing the reading I felt so inferior because they would assign literally 4 books to read a week; not 4 chapters, not 4 sections, but 4 books. It was an impossible load to comprehend, but that is the point, you don't comprehend but it is filed away in there in the deep dark unknown. I'm years past the pain of that experience and know this intellectually but still feel anxiety when reading something and not comprehending it completely at first.
Relax, it all comes when it comes.
One hindrance in my professional career was my uncertainty about any opinion or idea I offered. If someone said, "That won't work," I would instantly backtrack and agree that it was a dumb idea. Only in middle age am I finally having the confidence to advance my beliefs with conviction. It doesn't mean my ideas are guaranteed to work, but people don't respect somebody who is wishy-washy. I'm trying to balance this stronger version of myself while still paying attention to my blind spots.
Right there with you.
Just wait 'til you see yourself in another 20 years! 😉
Humility can only come with time. It’s a really bizarre irony of life. I spent a lot of my youth really thinking that I was trying to not be that young jackass that knew it all and that I was listening to people and their advice only now in my 40’s to understand that I knew nothing and was just a jackass. I’d love the opportunity to apologize to those people that gave advice that I never followed. Life is a weird place like that.
Great video
I worked at the DMV and I learned to not argue with people about facts they didn't want to hear,then I applied that to my dealings with people's opinions on science and politics. This has given me so much peace.
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Brings a whole new perspective to the term "they're not even smart enough to feel stupid"
Yeah
That's like the ultimate insult
"Not even smart enough to know how stupid they actually are"
GOD created us to be with Him. (Genesis 1-2) OUR sins separate us from God. (Genesis 3) SINS cannot be removed by good deeds. (Genesis 4-Malachi 4) PAYING the price for sin, Jesus died and rose again. (Matthew-Luke) EVERYONE who trusts in Him alone has eternal life. (John) LIFE with Jesus starts now and lasts forever! (Acts-Revelation) Now what's stopping you from reading the Bible and learning who God is?
@@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 WHY ARE YOU HERE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GODDDD
@@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 myself, I don’t read books older than my grandparents. Info is way outdated
@@raylessneptune451 this has to be one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve read all year.
“Humility isn’t thinking less of yourself; it’s thinking of yourself less.” - C.S. Lewis
A couple of years ago, my best friend, who is 10 years younger than me, asked me for some older-guy wisdom. All I could come up with is "always assume you are wrong." I feel if more people just assumed what they think is wrong, they would spend more time trying to find more information.
Alternatively, don't be afraid of what you know, always have an open mind, and be willing to completely change your position on if presented with information that contradicts what you thought you knew. You want to be able to have a conversation about something without caveating every sentence with, "but I may be completely wrong about this". Point being, you don't need to assume you're wrong to encourage finding more information.
Reflection is truly key. Humanity should dare to look deep within, but it should also accept that more than mere physical Reflection is required for true, celestial enlightenment.
"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In Time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the Universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
--Diamond Dragons (series)
A few years ago I adopted the mantra, "Everything you know is wrong," and it opened me up to seeing the world in an entirely different way. I'm really glad I did, because life has been more interesting and vibrant since.
That is BRILLIANT!
Or when your haveing a conversation with another person. Assume that they really do know something you don't know and help you keep a open mind
Good video, your conclusion to “be humble” is a profound truth. We can easily build our confidence when we enjoy success in life. Then when unexpected results come we have a choice to acknowledge or deny the results.
So I conclude being humble is akin to not lying to yourself. And allowing the correction of the truth to override some previous held positions despite the emotional load to the ego it presents.
Wish you were my friend we'd have good talks. This is very well thought out. Something you didn't mention is that biases also have momentum, so it gets harder the longer the bias is held to overcome it. So the sprouting of new ideas would take longer to have lasting effect.
My grandpa always responded with "Maybe" to things he was uncertain of. That subtlety in thought is something I feel everyone should know about. He never made a conclusion to an unknown without first learning more.
Perhaps has become my go to lol. Thanks for sharing.
Funny! I say "maybe" or "perhaps" and get called indecisive!
If only people these days took this approach
@@erich930 people want solid answers, so that no variables get in their way, just realise that you are being truthful. Dont let them change that.
I do try to get as much information as possible before forming an opinion - something which at times drives the people who already made up theirs crazy.
The part about it that bother me is WHY they expect me to have an opinion withoug investigation..
One of the best lessons I ever learned was to be willing to say “I don’t know enough about this to speak intelligently on it.” I am eternally grateful to everyone who I’ve said that to and has had the patience to explain what they’re saying to me.
Yes me too. For some reason when you admit tou don't know people actually like you better when we assume they would think we're incompetent.
"I don't know" has gotta be my favorite answer.
I take the same approach to celebrities and the like.
"I don't know enough or care enough about them to hate them"
There's a few politicians I absolutely hate, but that's with objective reasoning and fact based decisions.
I don't vote, so no I don't have any political biases.
Just cold hard factually based deductions.
No, it's not the big bad orange man. It's his predecessor and successor.
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 I mean, I like the predecessor and I think we have a meh successor. I hate the orange blob a lot tho.
Ah yes the corporate spokesperson approach "I am not equipped to come to a conclusion at this time."
You are the coolest person ever, I think I was on your email list a few years ago, and I found your videos today. Thanks for sharing this great information.
I see SO many people trying to “win” arguments and every single time I just sigh and face palm while thinking of this quote: “The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress"
This is my problem whenever I get into an argument with someone.
I constantly swing between "Oh shit, I might be wrong here" and "The other person is full of crap and is bullshiting me with over-confidence".
Which is tough, because you are both afraid of being an ass right now or allowing an ass to walk right over you.
Well that's Y we need to have keen eyes in order to compare things by the "Right" metrics, unfortunately, most people judge others by the wrong metrics.
So when you go looking for the 'right metric', you find yourself dealing in 'ethics' about what is "Right" and "Wrong" ?
And then we can deduce what is right and wrong by figuring out what is good or bad for everyone including Ourselves. 🤗
It's easier if you just accept that you're going to be wrong sometimes in those interactions. Accept that you are, then admit you are. Even if it means conceding a point to the other person. Even if it means it might derail the conversation a little. Learn to give ground when you're wrong. There is no shame in saying, "crap, man, you're right. Thanks for this conversation."
If people have overconfidence that they BS you with, you just let that play out. You ask them to walk you down the lines of logic they're using to arrive at those conclusions. Then you just start asking hypotheticals. People are more likely to listen to you when you approach them from the standpoint of "just trying to understand their point of view". As in, you put them in the position of authority in the conversation to teach you, and you just ask questions. Not leading questions. Not "passive aggressive" questions either. You say things like, "So, from what I know, X. How does X factor into what you think/believe?"
When a person has to teach you what they know, they've unconsciously opened themselves up to learn things and question what they know. Because, their goal is to share with you their great philosophy and they REALLY want you to agree with them. They REALLY want you to understand it so you can convert. So, they'll jump through any hoop they have to in order to teach you. Meanwhile, every innocent question in your quest to understand them forces them to rethink their position.
Just be an ignorant ass like them and you can't lose 👌
This has taught me that the border between confidence and arrogance is very thin indeed
Thinner than Moon atmosphere
(Yes, it exists)
@@VCE4 lol. 😁
Donkey!
The difference is about forgiveness.
A confident person would forgive themselves for stumbling. An arrogant person is subconsciously not forgiving themself for stumbling
The statement about dropping seeds actually helps me with a mental struggle I’ve always had about this phenomenon. Nothing is more frustrating then explaining a Known Known and being challenged, but maybe those arguments will eventually sprout into curiosity. I’ll never see the fruits of sharing deep knowledge, but there will be fruit, and I’ve had mine alone so let them have theirs alone.
"They don't have the capacity to understand more." PERFECT!!
An interesting effect of Dunning-Kruger is that often young adults often feel like they have the world by the tail and they have everything figured out. As you grow older, you learn more and, as Dunning-Kruger predicts, you also begin to see how much you don't know. The beginning of wisdom.
From my own personal experience (so take with pinch of salt), many young post-graduates, especially those in the working class, don't feel like we "have the world by the tail" whatsoever. In the face of stagnating wages, rising inflation and living costs, political corruption and the slow dismantling of welfare and public services by conservative powers, we realise how little our education system prepared us for what comes after.
But in the pursuit of educating ourselves on how to become functioning and independent people, we also learn just how skewed the system is against us, how difficult it is to actually be functioning and independent without becoming wildly unhappy - at least, for those of the working class. The best we can do is vote, and keep ourselves alive long enough for the ignorant and hateful to pass away so that we can slowly start to clean up their mess and improve things for the next batch of young folks.
wisdom is applied knowledge.
those that go to "Higher" education, are the ones that this affects the most, because they believe in their degrees and their ways of learning often not through experience of trials and tribulations then they try to apply their Knowledge that lacks experience to others in real world setting which create disastrous results.
That's cool and goes with the Bible that says the beginning of wisdom comes from reverencing or respecting (with fear, aka awe) God. It is because the more you learn the more you realize you don't know and don't have time nor capacity to know it and that makes you respect the one who can or has or universe or whatever you want to call it. I believe that's what the end of Job is about. I believe in God and Christ, but even if you do not the Bible has many truths, talks much of planting seeds, and has profound verses that convey information just like this. Wise men are humble and seek godly council. It also goes with parables and with the young King who won't listen to older advisers and surrounds himself with young yes men advisers and goes off to war and is shocked when he loses and is killed...that's a useful example even if you are an atheist and Proverbs was written and or collected by the King who was supposed to be wise, King Solomon, so it can be a good place to get some uncommon common sense for all people no matter philosophy or spiritual beliefs.
So true. At 20 I thought I had the answers to all the world's problems. The older I get the more I realise how much I don't know
“Most people’s beliefs are based on identity and group affiliation”…. So true! Thanks for summarizing that concept so succinctly.
So that is the reason why i am depressed? I have yet to find a group that agrees with me...
It's not really what you know, it's who you know...
Exactly! Most likely your beliefs are based on culture and the major religion of that culture. Yet, people think they came to it on their own!
@@wursthanz5518 : You must be very humble person indeed 😂
Yeah, and lord help anyone who steps outside the received wisdom of the group they're in!
A friend recently took a musical instrument after retirement. He knew the road to mastery would be hard, but was still amazed at how incremental improvement is. No short cuts.
This reminds me of the conversations distinguished in the Landmark Education Forum! Brilliant and needs to be out there, thank you for sharing!
"It´s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain
Wizard's First Rule.
From Rebel to maga
Miami Vice
yes @@benlotus2703
I like this quote and it is very true. The most popular religions in this world are deceptions, and it is obvious when you study theology and spiritual philosophies.
But most of these people refuse to accept the truth, no matter how much evidence you provide them with. The quotes by Jesus Christ from the Holy Bible disprove Christianity, but most of them do not care. They have been programmed to believe they are helpless sinners who are unable to stop sinning. The reason the rulers of this world manipulated this is because the power structure we live under requires us to be sinners.
I am personally humble AF. Thank you for getting this information out there so others might get on our level.
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People who say they are humble are not humble enough since if they were humble they wouldn't know they were humble
(humble edit: only just realised you were being sarcastic)
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Right?!
Oh my freaking Zeus, you literally just described perfectly what really is the Pinnacle of stupidity and Oblivion in our society, I mean, you most likely just did, but I have been one for quite some time to consider the dunning Krueger effect seriously and admit we might always be wrong.
Great video and Great Channel, keep up the good work, our final goal as humankind has got to be, to evolve, to become better, more intelligent, thx for helping with that, not many ones do👍
Loved this. Wise. Helpful. On point. Thanks, Mark
As an expert in stupidity you have been very informative. If there is one thing we can all agree on it is that this expert has forgotten more than we will ever know about being stupid.
Burn
This video is painful to watch. The irony is breathtaking. The guy making the video mistaking knowledge for validity is Dunning Kruger.
The quadrant is two things squared. Talking about the two different people, one who can't apply knowledge with the people who know knowledge.
Knowledge in a person can be strong or weak. And validity in a person can be strong and weak. Both independently strong and weak points.
Validity is NOT a sum of knowledge. Vs. Validity is applying knowledge. And one is born with validity. It can't be tough in school. You don't send your kid to school to learn to apply knowledge. Just learn knowledge.
Re-watch this video and you will see him seamlessly cross the two up. Seamlessly use both words (knowledge and properly applying knowledge) as the same word.
People with a awesome ability to memorize lots of knowledge doesn't mean they can properly apply knowledge. AKA validity
Some one with a great ability of learning knowledge can or can not have validity at the same time.
And some one with awesome validity can suck at knowledge. But give that person Google. And watch out.
For example; a news source should report knowledge, and save the validity for the viewers. And no opinion panels of experts spoon feeding the wrong validity.
My reporters are my fetch dogs of knowledge. Hold the validity. Be my eyes and ears, not my brain.
So the quadrant is two things squared.
@@BlackRose-rp7kvMe being dumb because you not understanding; is the perfect example of Dunning Kruger. A hypocrisy present in your statement.
validity (or logical) and knowledge is spelled different, because they have COMPLETELY different meanings.
Again. Mistaking knowledge of validity is a amateur mistake.
I know a person, his knowledge is unmatched. The smartest person I ever knew (in the field of knowledge). But he can't apply that knowledge to fix anything. He can't put 2 and 2 together, but can tell you all about 2 and 2. But can't talk about 4. 4 is missing in the conversation. He is the dumbest person in validity I have ever met, at the same time having the best knowledge I ever met.
The definition of logical (or validity); is not knowledge. Spelled different. And not to confuse the two. The guy in this video is clearly confusing the two
@@noel7777noel I never heard of validity before
I had to do many stupid things to find wisdom.
Humility is key. Something everyone including myself need to practice daily.
However, the moment you get in a situation , when some complete idiot with enormous confidence , earns status and influence in your field of expertise , (becoming your manager for example. ) You will notice that hard learned humility goes out of the window really fast ! 😅
@@spiritualanarchist8162 maybe you need to be the boisterous one first haha
I'm the best ever at humility, nobody can beat me at it
Amen to that.
I'm proud of my humility. I should become a professor of philosophy or sth
Awesome video! Hit the nail right on its head!
Of course I already knew about all this, and much more! 😁
"The more you know , the more you don't know" this is fascinating , this is exactly what it is !
I used to work at a company that described it's (Engineering) culture as "strong opinions, loosely held". From a communication perspective, it was one of the healthier work environments I've had the pleasure to paddle around in.
This is so true. Be aware that you don't hold all the answers but also don't be a doormat that believes nothing you say has any value. Speak your mind but also be open to other ideas.
Good comment!
Growing up I read a lot about everything and studied harder than my peers because I felt I was not smart and needed to put in extra effort to keep up with them. Then I went to university and realised that a lot of the students I thought were smarter than me were actually really ignorant of things I considered to be basic knowledge. It was both a confidence booster and a warning not to get complacent.
Everyone has areas of competence and incompetnce...I think.😮
Due to ADD and being on the spectrum, I was in "self contained" classes where I was taught the same low level material as the rest of the small class. I got made fun of for not knowing basic things not due to inability but lack of exposure.
2 year gap between HS and college. I learned to read scientific journals and learned research methods without being taught. When I finally was in college I was basically leaps ahead of everyone. I was leaps ahead of the average person overall while in a few concentrated topics I amazed professors on how much I cam to learn on my own before ever having any formal education on the subject. Naturally, I was full of myself on intelligence comparing then to before.
Today I feel like I'm a complete idiot. I have a grasp of how much I don't know.
@@jcdenton7914 try not to beat yourself up too much because you might end up developing imposter syndrome like me. That's the negative side of having the mentality of 'I'm not smart/talented and I need to keep learning to keep up with others' that I mentioned earlier.
I feel the same way about the audio text at my job
The dumbest person is usually the loudest.
Thank you for my new word of the day, incubate. What a swell word that is thank you and I am glad to be a new subscriber.
just found your page through this video, great explanation with the unknown-unknowns/known-knowns grid
I was once being interviewed by a psychologist as part of psychometric testing for a job I had applied for. At the end of the interview he said to me "You are in the top 6% of scholars and I don't think you realise just how smart you are". My response was "Doesn't that mean I'm stupid?"
He called you too stupid to know you're smart as fuck. It's a very insulting compliment
Huh?
@@katethegreat2222 The lower the percentage, the higher percentile you actually are in.
@@bakerboat4572 no, the joke is the "expert feels they are dumb/dont know a lot" is so strong that not realizing they are smart is also a dumb thing for them. At least thats what i think, or maybe dunning kruger effect is being applied to me as well
"But 95% of people are fucking idiots, so..."
@Mark Manson You are intellectually honest. How refreshing.
I feel so much better knowing this. ThankYou. I truly needed to hear this now.
As a manager, I've found that being able to self assess and admit when your wrong is actually not just a great tool for learning, but also great for relationship building. I try to express the importance of self assessment anytime I'm teaching about leadership, it's so hard to instill in others though. They really have to come to it on their own.
For you, it's invaluable. Trust me that based on experience, most common subordinates do not really care nor do they learn anything from what you are doing and showing to them.
I say most because there is few exceptions.
Or they could only learn AFTER, when they move out and meet entirely different kind of managers.
I think it just gets frustrating when other people don’t do it and they think that because they don’t question themselves more that they are superior somehow.
You need to be sure you still exist if you are wrong at some point. The more insecure you really are, the harder it is to keep the reigns on your positions, opinions and knowledge/prejudice loose. A CEO may think no one will ever take him (or her) seriously again if they admit to have ordered other people to do a stupid thing.
I swear I'm not trying to be an ass, but I just thought the irony was funny that you spelled "you're" wrong lol
@@Shaka1660 lol, Shaka, equally not being an ass, but let's hope JPR manages his people better than his English courses🥸
This results in the "imposter syndrome". An expert in a field might still feel to they are under qualified. I've definitely felt this way from time to time even though I'm successful in what I do and have multiple patents. Thank you for posting!
ive been an engineer for 6 years now and still feel like i am too fucking stupid for my job even though i consistently get excellent performance reviews each year.
@@adrianc6534 after the reviews, are you wondering if they're even qualified to review your work?
That's the state I perpetually live in. Reading shit takes on the internet is actually reassuring. Like, I may think I'm a fraud, but at least I'm not THAT stupid.
@@adrianc6534 I've worked in environmental science publications for the better part of two decades, and everyone seems to appreciate my work and ostensibly defer to my "expertise," but I'm constantly in fear of being exposed as a know-nothing fraud.
I know what you mean.
I say I've always been underqualified.
Sure enough on paper, I graduated and have a degree, but I like studying. I don't like working.
Tbh, I do not want to work on something that will help people. I just can't be responsible if I messed up. Or more like, I will mess up because I'm not motivated enough to do well helping people.
You did a really good job in describing this effect. I have seen it described before but you have done a really good job. My whole life, from the age of a child, through a teen, a young adult up to now, at 55 yrs, I have wondered about this stuff. How others are so confident. All through my long phase of thinking about this and asking why, I always thought that it was me who didn't understand because everyone else was older, who had a career behind them in a field, etc etc etc. Maybe about four years ago, I realised that the issue was not "what" people thought, but "how" they thought. You hit the nail on the head, when you mention that their beliefs are determined by emotional thinking. How they feel about something rather than the data around it. You mention educating people about their cognitive biases and how that doesn't work. Again, it isn't about the data or what they know or don't know; it is about how they think. You ask the question of how you overcome your own ignorance and how do you educate yourself to see something you can't see (blind spot). The answer is how you learn. How you observe the learning process you yourself go through. You learn to see the steps that you always go through. You learn to recognise the steps. I know what I know now will change. I know that no matter what effort I put into something, I will always be wrong. I have told this to people and they misunderstand. They think that statement means that I am hard on myself. No. I am always wrong because I don't have all the information. The human race does not know everything about everything. So the best I can do is take a strategic position. And knowing this, I am open to listening and learning, to accept or reject information. I study to know enough to make sense of what others say. I also know that as I learn more and more about a topic, everything runs down a path that runs in a particular direct but what always happens, is that one of the next pieces of information, rotates everything to point into the opposite direction. That happens all of the time and makes perfects sense, and I am always looking for that. Your next comments that most people's belief aren't based on logic or reason but identity and group affiliation. Wow that is such a powerful comment and one that I couldn't see for a very long time because I am a loner at heart and when I saw it, I was repulsed, seeing people change their beliefs in favour of being accepted into a group. I want to insert another comment and that is that most people don't study and are not interested in learning, so this processes of watching yourself learn is never experienced. If I can comment on you thought about dropping seeds. I don't believe that will work. A seed won't sprout because when you tell people something and they don't accept it; what is going on, is that they don't understand because they don't think how you think, and there are many stages of growth and levels of thinking that have to occur prior to reaching your stage. If you say something, and it doesn't resonate with them at that moment, that pearl of wisdom is gone forever. It isn't retained and so it won't grow. Your comment on humility is very true but these personal qualities cannot be put on like a coat. They are the result of a process. You can't wake up one day and decide to be humble or to be anything else. Personally I have reached a stage where I have given up in trying to get people to see and understand the world in the same way as I do. It is upsetting that you can be so different to other people that you cannot communicate effectively but I have spent thirty plus years on this and I have never taken a step forward with a single person.
May I suggest that you are one of those smart people who think they aren't? I'm almost certain that some of those seeds/"pearls of wisdom" that you assume fell on "stony ground" (my words) have sprouted and grown - you just weren't around when they did. To test what I am saying, go quickly through your own memory banks and find a few instances where someone else has said something to you which has resulted directly or indirectly in your making some significant change in your beliefs and/or behaviours. It's odds on that others have responded to you as you did in those instances. One example from me: a Roman Catholic priest once said to me when I was about 50, "Bruce, my boy [sic], the secret of power is powerlessness." I was and am atheistic, but a protestant reared one with a profound distrust of Catholicism. I still remember that comment from more than 30 years ago, and believe in the paradox which he voiced to me.
You wrote, "I have given up in trying to get people to see and understand the world in the same way as I do." Expressed thus, I offer the suggestion that you were never appointed to the job of getting people to change their world view, and resigning from the role was a good move. However, simply sharing your world view fwiw is a different kettle of fish, and you could still do this in a situation where you think the listener (or non-listener) might benefit. It's worth putting healthy ideas out there even if there is only 1% take up and only 1% of the take up ever comes to your awareness. And I acknowledge that giving up is an option (that probably won't result in your spending a long time in a hot place).
As an atheist approaching the end of a human life span, I'm happy. I share my perspective with religious people but not with the intention of making them wrong or getting them to give up their belief (which I believe is fanciful/magical). I see no problem in their dying deluded (as I see it) and like me not going to "heaven" because (as I see it) neither of us will know that we didn't go to heaven (or maybe hell in my case). On the other hand, occasionally, a Christian has tried to convert me because (s)he liked me and didn't want me to burn in hell for eternity. I got their love/empathy as well as the thought that their motivation was to soothe their own feelings more than a concern for my long term welfare.
thanks man, i come back to this video at least once a month as a little refresher
My grandmother gave me some advice on this when I was a kid. She told me that it is ok to not be very smart but the important thing was to realize it. In other words, don't walk around thinking you are smarter than you actually are. Best advice I ever got. Thanks, Grand Ma.
Too bad Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene had no one in their young lives to impart this wisdom.
@@parkerpoindexter4667says the silly princess that voted Biden:/Harris and thinks AOC is doing a good job.
One of the greatest things I've learned with age, is that it's ok to say you don't know something. It enables you to close your mouth (not say something foolish), listen, and to actually learn.
I’ve never met a single Democrat that would acknowledge the fact that they were mentally retarded.
we are all born with the same brain as Einstein
The end of this video hit home so fucking hard 😂 I remember my psychology teacher in University talking about how humans perceived humility, empathy, sympathy and the "thoughts and prayers" phenomenon. This guy raised his hand and went on and on for a good 15 minutes of her lecture talking about all the incredibly humble things he'd done and the importance of being self serving in order to better serve others (loved that one) and she just looked at him and said "Lions do not need to roar for you to know they're lions. Or that they can kill you..." To no one's shock he didn't quite get it 😂
Unfortunately, we do not live in a world where hard work and knowledge mean anything. The most rewards don't seem to go to the smartest/hardest working; they go to people who can stand on a rooftop, banging their tin drums and screaming the most loudly to all passers-by how exceptional they are.
Hmm idk about "being self serving in order to serve others", but the reverse is sort of my central guiding principle in life. Serving others in order to serve myself. Just another version of the golden rule.
bragging about your own humility is a total contradiction.
You can't be smug and humble at the same time.
No wonder why he didn't get the lion part...
This guy was a comedic genius. it sounds to me like a god-level troll attempt, but you were there not me.
Ahh, the classic humblebragger.
When I was in High School my chemistry teacher had a poster stating knowledge was like an island, and the shore was your awareness of what you didn't know. As the island gets bigger, so too does the shoreline. No mention of the growing inland lake though. However, it makes sense... through practice and repetition, you no longer need to be conscious of it... it becomes instinct and muscle memory. This is why the military drills so much. When the bullets start flying and stuff starts exploding, you do what needs to be done instead of freaking out.
Probably my favorite Mark Manson video.
First time I learned about Dunning-Kruger years ago, I just stared at a wall for an hour watching so many mysteries resolve about myself, friends, work colleagues, managers, politics, police, advertising, etc. As epiphanies go, this one is like being hit by a truck.
Same here! And it happened again when I encountered an article on the Semmelweiss Effect. I was like, "OMG. This explains so much!"
Yep....
@@ak5659I don’t know what that is now I’m going to research it. Will come back and add some thoughts after I gain at least a fraction of a percent of an idea of what that is lol
@dickturpin576 from someone who hasn't looked into him yet, you're statement seems obtuse
@Dick Turpin Can you tell me how people would receive highly sought after goods or services, if what they provided in return was undesirable?
My experience in the workplace these days is that self confidence is valued more than actually having knowledge.
That is incredibly depressing.
This is unfortunately true confidence and job title that you hold.
Absolutely agree and it’s a real change for the worse. I went to college a bit later than normal so at the outset of my career lacking a degree and relying solely on performance, I read a ton of business books on technical skills, soft skills, etc. For the most part the historical advice was if you want to be successful then do a great job. Be more competent than is expected of you and if you want to be a leader then lead by example with integrity and moral courage. If you pick up 90% of business advice books from the last 10 years, it’s all about how to demand a raise and look the part and just self centered garbage. But that’s the environment these days. I think partly because corporations are so big and disconnected in so many ways but some of it is just the social virus of narcissism. 😂
Let's not beat around the bush here, let's call "self-confidence" what it really is - bullshitting.
Yep
these days i live for ur vids... pls dont stop. tnx
This is when you hear the phrase " I forgot more than you ever knew" comes in to make sense. I have learned many things at 42, yet I am getting more curious and open minded as I progress cause there are more sides to things than we are taught.
You learned many things? You mean you learned nothing and still have room to grow 😛
@@cricticalthinking4098 exactly ! thats a quote isnt it?
@@tekktori "The more I learn, the more I see that I don't know."
I often feel underqualified in my chosen field, but I also know that I am also aware that I know more than 90% of the population. I know what you mean when you say that you have forgotten more than you ever know. I still want to learn more, because the more I learn the more things connect. The more I realize about how things operate.
I'm 70 and at some point you will intentionally forget the things that make you sought after just so you can be at peace.
This should definitely be a reminder in classrooms for every grade. Some kids are very good at memorizing test answer material, and self judging their mental proficiency very highly as a result. This is known as 'book smarts', and it's dangerous when people get very confident in their overall abilities based on easy recall of the right word for a thing. Knowing these things is, of course, handy on Trivia night - but a very small percentage of what it takes to navigate the real world proficiently.
As an honor student it’s surprising how many people don’t have the ability to think
Agreed, I was a book smart student and it was a huge letdown when I realized that all my A's were basically meaningless when it comes to finding a decent job as an adult.
What if you get very confident in your ability to solve problems because you are extremely good in mathematics, a subject that does not require memorizing words but actually practices problem solving?
FYI: I think that book smart people have the capacity to be everything smart. They just need to apply their smarts to life... e.g., Elon Musk and Bill Gates.
Teaching it in school would be somewhere between a disaster and useless. Most kids would just memorize it and forget, same way they do to most other material. For those who don't, it'll fuck with their self esteem, either by giving them undue confidence or by making them even more anxious about their grades and their worth outside of them than they already are.
I was a “fun facts” kid and I most definitely still am as an almost 30 yr old. I can confirm its pretty useless except I can talk in brief about quite a few topics. I did go back to college in 2021. The gap in my education hasnt been that big of an issue surprisingly. Especially since many of the classes Ive taken are new to me (biology was new to me. Didnt take it in high school and its been a while since it was discussed in a classroom. Maybe 8th grade. Because of my 7 yrs experience in the workforce, and because I have special interests (adhd) and because the class was open book, i was successful! I spent a lot of time outside of class looking into questions I had during lectures. Why does radiation destroy DNA? (Identical) Twins can have different DNA? Yep. They can. Whats a chimera again? I would find science studies and articles and connect them with class. Thats the way to actually learn btw. Memorizing all this stuff wasnt useful.
Long story short, college is fun and perhaps easier with outside context to connect it to. And its within these connections that new neural pathways form and learning occurs.
First time ever I watch your videos. I liked it and subscribed. Thank you!
Loving it. Loved the book by the way subtle art of not …… great read. Thinking of getting your other one.
I got a job at a theme-park when I was in my teens. During the training part, one of the things that they emphasized was that as park employees, we're not allowed to JUST say "I don't know", but instead we should say, "I don't know, _but I'll find out."_
For whatever reason, that made it into some deeper part of me and stuck with me. It's weird how little influences at the right time in our life shape us so much later.
That’s called costumer service
Customer
@@colbornfarms4849 lol - they're both right, bro, because we wore costumes.
Oh yes. I had the lesson drilled into me as a teenager, in my first customer service job lol But it never left me, either. At work now, at 41, even when I’m stressed, stretched too thin, and SO done with everyone’s needy bs, if a co-worker asks me something I don’t know, I can’t just say “I don’t know” & go back to my own work. I might not get their answer that second, but like 3 days later I’ll find them & tell them, while they’re going “wait what???”😭 It is INGRAINED in me forever. In probably anyone who’s ever worked customer service for any real length of time.
You'll hear that a lot in the military. They're quite good at exposing weaknesses and then strengthening those intelligent enough and/or self aware enough to take advantage of their opportunities. Many leaders, the good ones, are quite adept in those areas. And, yes, the bad ones believe that they're the good ones. 😂! It's best to let them learn the hard way.
I can cofirm that the more I have learned , the less I have felt I knew. And so I came to firmly believe that learning should never stop. 😅
Learning shouldn’t stop when you finish school. It should be a continuous, lifelong endeavor. I love learning and I’m 57.
Same here. It’s a tunnel you can only walk in once. And the light in the end of this tunnel never stops shining
Agreed 100% and I've found the more I learn, the more I realize, I know nothing. It's said that Einstein said this, but I think he got it from Socrates, since he was here first. I've also found that the more you learn, the more it creates a thirst for more knowledge.
I’m with you!
This is the most real shit I’ve seen in a while. You earned a subscription and a like. I love the four quadrants. I used to teach and I expected and looked forward to learning something from my students in every class. I loved it. I found out so much knowledge that I didn’t know I don’t know. Everyone should live with this mentality. Good stuff
The circle example works really well for me and my science fiction reading habit. I got back into it a couple years ago, and I can’t believe how many writers I haven’t sampled, so my circle has expanded. I keep discovering great stuff from decades (and writers) I never considered before. Then I watched a CZcams video from a true expert who made an offhand comment that he read 40 novels from a relativity obscure writer. It was at that point when I knew I will never, ever be an expert 😂
How does this video explain the Dunning-Kruger effect and its implications?
Through engaging animation and clear concise narration, this piece illuminates the Dunning-Kruger cognitive bias whereby incompetence breeds illusory superiority.
Initial vignettes demonstrate how lacking ability to assess skills incorrectly signals proficiency as benchmarks remain unknown.
Charts visually convey the divergence between actual and perceived talent as tasks are attempted, revealing incompetents most inaccurate in self-assessment.
Real world examples illustrate this "low ability, high self-confidence" dynamic statistically across domains from driving to comedy.
Further discussion poses the effect partially explains polemic certainty on complex issues without expertise.
Overall, unpacking this counterintuitive phenomenon cultivates both intellectual humility and awareness of subjective limitations. It offers perspective on overconfidence and highlights the importance of accurate self-reflection in procuring knowledge and wisdom.
By concisely communicating social science, the video inspires application of empirical findings to everyday life and discourse.
@@zeppelin16Dude, you worked out how copy/paste works, well done!
Life could be so easy when you keep your circle small!
But it makes a much greater personality if one seeks new knowledge and is humble enough to realise how much one always doesn't know!
When I was 14 (1974), I said to a friend, "the more I learn, the more I realize how little I know". Dunning-Kruger Effect aside, to me the natural outcome of an inquisitive, open mind is that your world, all that you are capable of seeing in a given place in time, expands outward and gets bigger. Each piece of knowledge acquired, potentially opens a door to a bigger realm of knowledge that you didn't see before. For most who experience this, it is humbling. You become smaller as your world of knowledge is getting bigger. Humbleness, should not be confused with stupid, though.
Couldn't agree more. Lessons from a wise person. P.S. We're almost the same age. I was 15 in '74.
IQ is a factor, half of all ppl are dumber than avg
@@rideordietheyretring2tranx382 Thank you for giving us such a good example of your statement.
yess you realize how much of the world you don't know, and it's scary because you're never going to learn all of it, so you never know what you're doing right now is right or wrong or just...not impactful.
I have experienced the Dunning-Krueger-Effect recently myself. I am a university student working at a tech company and I always have doubts about my work and I feel like I'm "too slow" and that everyone else is so much more knowledgeable than me. I am close to finishing my master's degree and last week my boss came up to me and offered me a full-time contract starting after I finished my degree, because they were so impressed with my work over the years and willingness to learn new things that I have shown.
I have never felt better about my work. Often, the people surrounding us are more aware of our skills than we are.
Congratulations!🎉👍
Same, minus the school part
It's been incredible
That's not the Dunning-Kruger effect, that's imposter syndrome followed by a non sequitur.
I think it's because you start to judge self against perception of peers.
Being humble and open to the views of others has gotten me out of many a scrapes.. as well as many allies who are louder and more "expressive" in defending my humble opinion.
Honestly, this video made me understand why I've had my own personal frustration with coaching.
For many years growing up I would think I was the dumb one because I was the "clown", "jokerster" friend, so not taking me seriously would always be an inside joke I would even participate. I'm not a super intelligent person but when I know something, I know. I slowly realized how my friends could be wrong on so many things about certain things and they were so sure of themselves, even brushing it off when I proved they were wrong.
Wow, what a breath of fresh air this video was for me. I make so many mistakes and as I’ve gotten older I’ve learned (or rather, trying like hell to get better at) to stay grounded, open and honest about those mistakes rather than put a wall of denial up or even worse, point the bony finger. It’s a sobering way to live because being critical of yourself is tough, but essential for mental and spiritual development. The ability to embrace your flaws instead of hide them away is a tricky thing, because although accepting fault is a good thing the goal is still to reduce them…..almost has paradox written all over it….
There’s a reason you never know, til you know.
@@Barqop You’re forgetting about known unknowns.
yes i am. ty
Yep. I'll add that accepting when you're wrong or did something wrong (especially over time), is a breath of fresh air because you learn that making mistakes is not a permanent mark against you. It's when you own up to them and let go, that you truly learn as a person.
@@richsackett3423 theres known unknowns and unknown unknowns and unknown knowns lol
(idk how boondocks thing is )
I call it Unconscious Incompetence. I suffered from it greatly when I was younger, but now i've learned to keep my mouth shut.
I love videos like this, that make you think. Few and far between on CZcams frfr
One of the things I was taught, as a child, was that…there’s always a possibility your wrong. And critical thinking is a skill that can help you be more confident in your beliefs while also continuing to have or practice humility.
*you're ;)
@@chrisaultman1 😂😂😂😂 yes
I resonate with this on the deepest level. In fact, I am the most humble, open, intelligent and self aware person I know. I’m better than everyone else at avoiding these psychological traps
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Thanks for the laugh, guy
Squishily thanks for lending me your Lamborghini while you rescued those orphans from a burning building, you're the best 😎
@@ChaoticNeutralMatt it's possible. Why you may ask? There's always exceptions to the rule.
Is this satire?