EXCLUSIVE Audio-Technica MSR7-B UNBOXING, REVIEW & COMPARISON [2019]
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I've owned the dt770 pro 80ohm, dt990 premium, srh840, hd280, hd 4.5btnc , mdr-1rbt, beats studio, and msr7. Msr7 is by far the best sounding followed by dt770.
Sounds like we've both fallen down the same rabbit hole of headphones - and I agree with you fully on your preferences :)
@@AdamDuffArt I've always leaned towards in ears though. Have you tried many of them?
Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL shp9500 how far off are the from this headphone? Do you recommend something better? I own the hd668b also the hd59x which are both great I’m just wondering if there are any other budget/honorable mentions to look into.ive heard good thing on the m40x but after seeing the msr7 stating hi-res I’m not sure m40s will do but I’m not sure. Because I’m still interested in the 9500 I just don’t wanna buy both m40/9500 .
SRH840 despite poor build quality give excellent audio for production and consumption.
Thank you very much for excellent advice! I already had my Sony MDR-1AM2 (more warm & bassy sound signature) for 6 months when I first saw your review.. Straight away bought the MSR7b - beautifully sounding headphones, nice & clear mid-range with extended treble but not harsh and enough bass.. Complements my Sony along the sound spectrum.. And both have 4.4mm balanced port & extra cable.. What unbeatable combination in USD250 price range!
Found your channel and it really helped me alot. Thank you
Thank you for this, I've been looking for entry audiophile headphones and these seem to suit my needs. Will pull the trigger on the B model I think!
Just got the MSR7 yesterday here in Australia for an amazing deal. $150AUD (equivalent to about $104USD) with an additional 2 years replacement warranty. Considering that the MSR7B isn't a drastic upgrade from the MSR7, and the price I paid, I think I got myself a steal. Absolutely love the clarity on them.
How did you get such a deal? I've had to pay 3x that in Australia
JB HiFi had all of their MSR7s on clearance for $249 (possibly because no one buys them, due to the popularity of the M50X). On top of that they had a 40% off on the ticketed price of all Audio Technica headphones, so the salesperson I spoke to said he can bring down the price for me to $150. I asked for an even better deal, but he couldn't bring the price down anymore, but could thrown in an extra 2yr replacement warranty. That's how I got it. When shopping at JB HiFi, always try to ask for a deal. They're quite lenient about it :)
@@ernestrusseltayson5899 The difference between msr7 and msr7b is huge
I own a pair of the MSR7 for now almost two years and they`re my main driver on daily basis. The sound is suberb, | just love it. Whatever I throw at them...Liquid Tension Experiment`s Acid Rain...Porcupine Tree`s Even Less...A Perfect Circle`s Judith...Mastodon`s A Word To The Wise...it handles all those songs with a wide sound stage and a clearity I`ve never experienced before. I mean especially Acid Rain turns the sound of many cans in a muddy bass fest, robbing it of all the song`s detail.
But I think we all know what AT has delivered with the MSR7. The only pain with them I had, was the in the video mentioned plasticy noise while just even touching them. After some digging I just opened the cans (which is quite easy, you just need to be gentle with some of the plastic parts holding the wole system together) and put some silicone grease in there and this annoying sound is just gone...for more than 18 months. Sure, would`ve been better without the sound occuring in the first place, but it seems to be a design flaw with the original MSR7.
Finally, someone who listens to Metal throws their 2 cents in on these audiophile videos. \m/
Thanks mate.
Sounds like you like all the things that I like.
I'm sold.
Great review man.
Yep, buying the msr7bs for sure now. Been confused between these and the dt770 pros for a VERY long time now. This video helped me finally decide. Thanks!
How do you like them are they loud enough for phone use?
@@pillowboy7995 the sound itself is great for the price, but you'll need an amp.
Thanks for the video man, made me finally decide to buy the MSR7b after months of contemplating to go with the MX40 or DT770 and found a middle ground (in terms of price). But apparently according to you, leading in terms of performance. Funny story, I thought these were not that old just releasing in 2018 but then I realized that was 4 years ago, time flies... Definitely preferred to not blind buy, but what can you do if your town don't have many audio shops with display units to audition. Can't wait to try them on!
1:18 "i listen to what audiophiles say online and i disagree with a lot of what they say"
that's actually a good sign, happens to me all the time. XD
Thanks, your review really clinched it for me..I was actually able to get the b's $50 less than the original msr7's which were still 299.99, where I went. I was really wanting the Senn HD660's, luckily they sold out, as i feel like I made the best choice..It came down between the b's, and Sony 1AM2. which were more expensive, again, and I'm not looking for the added lows they supposedly have. Thanks again for your video, it was a big help for me! Supposed to be here by Friday!
Super helpful.....this guy delivers real and helpful insight
The reason the Audio Technica MSR-7 is not as popular as the M50 / M50X is (besides the fame and name the M50/x garnered a few years ago) because they're like double or at least 1.50x the price of the M50/x ($100-$130 VS $200 - $230) and because the MSR7 reveal even more than the M50/x. This means the MSR7 has an even flatter response which makes them less "fun" and more critical. This means the MSR7 is even better for audio production/editing but not necessarily always as good for your casual listener as very critical, high-end headphones can be quite fatiguing especially since you'll hear every little hiss, crackle, pop, and imperfection in your audio sources. The better headphones aren't always better for all scenarios and listener types. Many casual people may find the MSR7 to be flat, boring, fatiguing, and harsh because they're so damn good.
I just bought MSR7 for a little over $150 on Amazon. Maybe the price is lower right now.
Go listen to a MSR7 yourself. It's not as critical sounding as you think. If anything, m50x have a peak at treble range. Btw if a headphone is harsh and fatiguing, it will never be flat.
In my opinion, m50x is overrated because of reviews from gaming peripherals channels. Those channels have really huge audience.
They are 160 on Amazon and that is like 30 more than the m50xs for noise canceling
@@zxrif5004 Actually you have to pay more for noise cancelling, but these are different from M50X from what I know.
@@ya-rx8nd it's actually cheaper than the normal version on Amazon for some reason but they are a bit flatter than the m50xs, but they sound more clearer in my opinion
Great audio on this video. This guy knows his business.
Thanks for the good review! I have a pair of MSR7 and I was wondering what the differences would be with the Bs. You laid it all out very nicely!
Thanks for the review. I am also leaning towards th msr7b after hearing your thought
If you are "not an audiophile," then I am an audio Luddite. However, I like listening to you talk about audio equipment and explaining it in a way that I know what I'm missing. Happy holidays.
Honestly Sam - I seriously question audiophile culture, it’s a bit pretentious to be honest
I just bought the MSR7B ' s after I saw your review .
I have an LG V60 that has a quad DAC and a dongle DAC amp with balanced output @340mw per channel. With LG s quad DAC , single ended,the bass is good but not powerful enough. However when connected with the dongle with balanced output,the sound is more natural ,powerful and the bass is strong , deep and very precise.
Can't thank you enough for this review,made the right choice and purchase!
All the best to you! 😊
Thank you for this review! This will be my buy!
Fantastic review. I ordered some 👍🏻
Test gear: Schiit Audio - Magni, Loki, Modi MB.
Multiple mp3, Wav and 24/96 Audio Files from Classical to Blues, R&B, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal
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I A/B'd the MSR7 and MSR7b over the course of two weeks, wrapping up yesterday.
I know my opinion will likely be in the minority, but I had ample opportunity to test each headphone for extended periods of 3 hours or more as well as A/B them for compare and contrast.
First off, the obvious and glaring difference between the MSR7 and the MSR7b, and main selling feature, is that the "b" version has the balanced option (which I didn't test), ever so slightly better bass extension and slightly less treble at flat EQ than the previous version and just a tad better sound stage. That might be exactly what you want if you listen to flat EQ media consistently.
I personally like to conform the sound to my preference. A little more low bass volume and small tweaks to the high end depending on how the recording was mixed and mastered.
So with that said, the problem I have with the MSR7b is that when you EQ to taste, and drive it fairly hard with a headphone amplifier, it falters with audible distortion. The original MSR7 has no such problem,.
The original version has greater bass extension at higher volumes without distorting, and responds better to EQ before reaching audible distortion. The MSR7 can be driven louder and with more deep bass (40hz and below), yet still provide fantastic separation between the lows, mids and highs. The MSR7 is analytical, yet listenable for long periods of time and over multiple genres.
In my setup, a -2dB drop at 2khz takes any forwardness out of these reference quality monitor headphones that might otherwise be just a tad bit "bright" and revealing.
The best thing about the MSR7 (either version), and what makes them high-resolution and worthy of "reference" status, is that you'll hear maraca's, bells, triangles, high-hat ghost notes and the zing of crash and ride cymbals you didn't even know were in the song. You'll hear the finger and pick attack on bass notes that are otherwise indistinguishable on lesser cans.
And you'll hear the room reverb and 3D depth of well recorded drums that you didn't realize were buried in the mix.
The headband may indeed be slightly more comfortable on the MSR7b, but the ear-cushions on the MSR7 were a little deeper and held their form better once on your head, to keep your ears from bottoming out on the speaker. At least on my set.
I went back and forth with these trying to convince myself that the newer "b" version must be better than the original, but every listen just confirmed what I felt and heard within the first 5 minutes of critical listening. The MSR7 just outperforms the MSR7b.
I also have a set of Audio Technica ATH-50's. The original version, not the new "X" version.
By way of comparison, the 50's are far more neutral, flat and rather boring. They do produce more bass at flat EQ, but the race tightens when you bump the 60hz and lower sliders up a couple dB. At least regarding bass quality.
That's where the contest ends though as the 50's simply cannot match the high end detail of the MSR7's.
The reduced performance of the MSR7b does make me wonder what exactly was cut out of the new version to reduce the overall weight of the headphones in the name of comfort?
Not only is the MSR7 far less expensive than it's newer sibling today, but to me, it simply sounds better and is more versatile.
I know there will always be slight differences in the sound of one speaker to another, even with identical design and production standards. Maybe I received a great set of MSR7's and a not so great set of MSR7b's?
IMO, If you listen at lower volumes, aren't concerned with the lowest bass and leave your EQ flat, you'll be happy with the MRS7b. It does sound good within those constraints. I don't think it adds anything new to the equation to justify rather large difference in price between the two. For me obviously, the MSR7 won the day.
I have the MSR7b for about 2 months. I use the balanced cable with Fiio Q5s. Tried them many times on high power, also EQed with Winamp on PC - hard boost on 31.5 Hz. But haven't noticed any distortion. Maybe I should do some hard tests on the 3.5 mm cable?
You didn't test the "b" in MSR7b? Why even compare the original with the new one if you're not going to test what makes them different?
How do the headband of these hold up? Used M50x for 4 years but it is worn out. How is the headband on the MSR7b holding up so far? Can't decide between DT770 80ohm or these.
I would like to disagree with you. You said you're not an audiophile but you describe sound wonderfully! You are definitely an audiophile and did a great review!
Very good N clear review.
Great review! Ive owned a pair of msr7 for years and got my pair of b last month in Japan. Absolutely love them. Comfort with the originals was not bad but with the b it’s close to perfect. Overall I think the b sounds “softer” but “clearer” than the originals, which is quite close to your impressions. I own a pair of AD1000X and love those as well, and with the b sounding more “open-like” IMO than the originals AT has me happier than expected with this purchase.
@@arianugroho no it doesn't. Although my msr7 peeled of after 3 years
Brilliant review
Really helpful. Thanks very much!
I got my MSR7 about a couple of weeks ago, and I have been enjoying them. This review helped in making my decision in getting them. Plus, the price that I got them for... I live in Malaysia, and the local online shopping service had them for a low price of USD $80.00 plus shipping. It was shipped from China, and took about two weeks. Honestly, I just couldn't be happier. Thank you.
As for the clamping pressure, I got a neoprene headband cover that has the side-effect of pushing the earpieces out, reducing the clamping force. Not to mention the new headband cover gives an extra padding that helps with the comfort level.
Hello
I from Malaysia too
May I ask few questions
How about the sound
It is original
And where do you get it
Sorry if I asking to much😅
@@nabilshariff4799 ; No problem. Got it on L*#%da (don't want to get into any legal issues) online shopping website. Sound is great. Good bass, has a quality sound to it. Price was around RM330.00 plus shipping.
Why do people always call neutral headphones boring? After all, neutral headphones don't lower any frequency in particular so they always play the music pretty much as it was intended. I could think of a few reasons, but maybe the music people always listen to is not that great (I actually know this for a fact, when I see which videos have the most views).
After you get neck-deep into really good music, then and only then you will truly appreciate a neutral headphone, since it reveals the full frequency range overshadowing anything.
Thanks for the very good review!. You are completely right in your comment about audiophiles below. Yesterday I read another review of these HP that stated that they have more bass and more recessed highs, 🤔. I have DT 770 pro, ATH MsR7, Hifiman 4xx and just ordered the Sennheiser 6xx. I overall agree with your opinion about 770 and ATHs, including the awful “creeking” of the Aths earpads, which is quite annoying. The only thing that I don’t like about then MSR7 is the lack of a more punchy bass, but I solved it with a very simple and unexpensive solution: a tiny amplifier with bass boost called Fiio A1.
I don’t fully agree about the isolation provided by the MsR7, which I found poor. I travel a lot and after the first flight I realized that the MSR7 (and also 770s) are not fit serve for this purpose.. For domestic use the MSR7 are Ok, but for more noisy environments You need real active noise cancelling HPs. I have the Sony MDR-1000x and I’m very happy with them. Thanks again for your nice review.
An audiohile is just someone who cares about good sound, just because too many people hear the word audiophile and think of sound-snobs doesn`t mean that`s what the word means, it has been bastardized and ruined by non-audiophiles who doesn`t know what a word means, it`s stupid and pathetic.
You should try out the ATH-A series too. Very nice highs without being sibilant and good balanced bass, makes female vocals super intimate. Comfort is a mixed bag though.
As far as over the ear headphones, what would you recommend? I listen to everything from my phone, mostly rap and rock.
Thanks. Buying MSR7 now.
Searched for this kind of review. Thx. I've owned the DT770 pro 250ohm, was afraid that MSR7b will be worse. but they are amazing.
looking foward to my MSR7-B
I just got the DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms, and I also compared them against other highly-regarded headphones: The AKG K-361, DT 700 Pro X, DT 770 Pro X LE, Sennheiser HD 280 Pro, and a couple of cheaper options just in case. They were the best in almost all categories! The other Beyers came the closest. In comparison:
- The DT 700 Pro X had more pleasant mids and less of a bump in the bass, but lacked soundstage, upper treble sparkle, and a bit of detail
- The DT 770 Pro X had similar mids to the 700 Pro X, but too recessed because of pushed sub bass and sharp treble. Its soundstage was almost on par with the regular DT 770 Pro
- The AKG K-361 were a bit more even from bass to the mids, but lacked a bit of air, soundstage, and physicality in the bass. Also, the upper mids could get a bit too much at times
The others didn't come close, although I can see why people love the HD 280 Pro. It's very analytical, but it's just not fun to listen to.
When looking for headphones that could tick _all_ the boxes, I stumbled over the ATH-MSR7b. From what you describe, I think I would love it as well! But they're discontinued now. If you find them, they are much more expensive than the DT 770 Pro, and they don't seem as sturdy and not really repairable. That's one _major_ benefit of many Beyerdynamic headphones imho. So I'll get used to the slight unevenness of the DT 770 Pro. If I want a flat response and maximum detail, I still have the DT 880 Edition 600 Ohms.
Great review,would these be good for gaming.
If I'm trying to mix music and use these for personal listening do you recommend the msr7 or msr7B? I currently own the m40x and I find the bass definitely lacking and highs are too harsh. The mids are also weak as they sound kind of "thin". Though they say flat is good for mixing, I'm used to a U shaped sound and it's actually counterproductive for me. Also, which version MSR7/MSR7B have a bigger soundstage?
Amazing!
As a music producer, we normally use DT150 and sometimes cd900st - but recently msr7
Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7b or the Sony MDR 1AM2? i like them both and they both have good specs and what not. but i am not sure what to pick yet.
If Audio Technica had the same input jack from M50X into MSR7 if would have been really better on contact resistance. I had one but I had issues on that part. The market niche for M50X sound signature is an entirely different market segment from gamers, rappers, DJs but please they are not absolute garbage - read the specs on the frequency response test dataset. MSR7 BT version if they would have in the future will be the figure of merit for fidelity. They have to be on an equalizer output from a high res audio player if you want the base.
Very good review, and got my hopes up. Love my DT770 but need something more portable. And HOPEFULLY you are right, and I will now order myslef a pair of MSR7!
What else is a good replacement earpad?
do they have lock on their connector? or it just like mmcx connector? does the earpad changeable?
Bought those headphones couple of months back. they sound amazing. well worth the money
Yep. Got mine in openbox for $100 on ebay. Seller said he didn't like the sound after trying them once. So they were practically in mint condition. I've owned a ton of headphones but these just keep pulling me back in. The sr50bt is more fun sounding though and better for on the go. For critical listening sessions, these are my go to. Reminds me of the sound signature of the m40x (with hm5 pads) but with better detail, bass, and clarity.
@@LuciferArc1 Yeah i have never listen to the Mx40 although they are legendaray. not as much as the M50x oc. I wanted to by the M70x instead of the MSR7b. But after doing some research the MSR7b where just little better then the MX70. and even then people still preferred the MX40 over the MX70. so i think i made the right choice. I use this as my daily drivers. i know its not really meant to be used for. but i am planing on to buy a DragonFly Cobalt mini DAC. But for now it sounds amazing as wel. I just have to figure out how to use that 4.4mm cable. i have not seen a 3.5mm to 4.4mm plug anywhere. and i have no way to connect it to my system. But anyway you got a nice deal for that headphone. i payed 220 euros for it. was still 20 euros cheaper then anywhere else in the netherlands. some retailers even sold it for 300 euros. so in that case i still got a pretty good deal. But anyway we both cant complain about the MSR7b. amazing headphones. I normally am a sennheiser fanboy. but this cans blue me away. cant say i regret spending money on it.
@@metalvideos1961 the m50x and m70x are very overrated. The m50x sounds worse than the m40x tbh. I won both and never use my m50x
How is the imaging of msr7b when compared to dt 770 pro?
Mice review man, i am definitely convinced to get a pair of MSR7s now, but not the Bs...👍
Honestly, you'll probably be a bit more satisfied with the originals - a bit more kick in the lows, and you're saving yourself a respectable amount of money.
I agree. The original version is a better all-around set.
Nice review! Would you say if the difference between the MSR7's and the MSR7B's is $50 or €50, it's still worth spending that bit extra for the B's and waiting a little while for them to come out?
It really depends on what you need the most. I saw some folks on Headfi return the MSR7 just bcs it's not comfortable. This new iteration will really change things for people that prioritize comfort over anything else.
You don’t speak about robustness. What do you think of how solid it is? I have a msr7 and I had some problems with the pads that get damaged very quickly, the plastic material against the ear don’t keep the good shape. Sound is very good, and maybe the best I had so far, but too bad if the plastic is too thin and fragile. What’s your experience about that?
I bought my MSR7 many years back.... now it's a little bit worned but still sounds amazing. That weird noise were in the beggining drove me crazy but now I can't even care xD One problem.... The materrial used on the earpads could get worn off and starting to irritate the skin so I had to replace it with a red earpads and looks amazing with it and sound wasn't changed fortunately :D As for bass, it's just perfect... I don't want deeper bass or less bass, it's just right and well ballanced in all frequency region.
kinda bit far, but wanna ask something.. comparing this msr7b with sennheiser pxc550 gen 1.. what do you suggest only from sound quality stand point
Great review.
Should i get these i now have used a M50x for 4 years but the handband flaked how do these hold up? I am trying to choose between these and the DT770 pros 80ohms.
Hey Adam. I know you posted this like 2 and a half years ago but where did you buy them? Because I agree that the price on Amazon Canada is pretty crazy. Thanks.
To eliminate the squeaking sound in the pivot joint, add in a drop or two of light oil. I too was annoyed by this, but by adding oil the squeaking sound is but a distant memory.
Second that. I did that on my MSR7 and it stayed quite for months (until my cat dropped them, now they're broken, so I'm getting MSR7b).
I wonder... Do the brainwavz Bluetooth cables work on these?
looking into getting a pair of headphones for audio monitoring and editing for videoprodction, that i can still use with a normal laptop amplifier, for convenience. what are your thoughts on the dt770 (32 ohm) ?
and regarding the msr7b's, is it enough to stick them directly in my desktop pc? or do i need a better amp to get the better sound quality?
No, you don’t need a head amp
Yep, the MR5 pads ruin the MSR7 sound, I agree. seems like an opposite phase issue.
Nice review! Did you use the 4.4mm connector? If yes, how?
In my case no - my Mixpre-3 only has a 3.5 input.
you can try 4.4mm connector on Digital Audio Player called Fiio M11, the soundstage just like woah super detail
Can I use that in my Android phone for music purpose.... Because I'm music lover not song... I don't have a pc or laptop...
screwdriver and silicone grease to solve plastic crunch
I simp for these heaphones. Theyre my absolute favorite. The ath-sr50bt is my on the go though. At home though, these are where it's at. I've owned a ton of headphones but I always find myself coming back to audio technica. I just prefer their sound signature. I listen to a lot of J-rock and female artists though. So I do have a bias.
I've purchased the msr7b this week. After a couple hours to break in I can say only one thing .. Superb in almost every aspect. In my studio I use a DT770 80 ohms, a Shure SHR 840 and s Sony MDR 7506. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. This Audio Technica does it all. I didn't aspect this to happen. When you want better you'll pay a lot more for little improvements in sound. For a closed back headphone I can only say Superb
Can you please compare the imaging of dt770 80ohm with msr7b's?
@@syncwork, the imaging is about the same. But the DT770 has more pronounced low end. If you like that, go for it. I think the Msr7b headphones are more balanced, neutral sounding.
@@marcohermans3207 I liked the bass (or bass extension) of dt 770 but with the 32 ohm model the highs were sibilant for me in some songs. And it creates ear fatigue after 30-40 min of listening. I am thinking it is due to the beyerdynamic sound signature.
@@syncwork, the 32 Ohm model sounds different, I agree. I don't like them. I think the dt770 80 ohm will suit you more. It's less fatique for longer sessions. Every headphone has it's pro's and cons. But for overall sound quality, balans between lows-mids and highs I chose the Msr7b everytime.
@@marcohermans3207 Can you list out the pros and cons for both? please, because i did tried to EQ (lower trebble) the 32 ohm version but that didn't worked for me (still harshness). I kinda think that its the sound signature beyerdynamic is not of my type. - that mountain frequency peak
The cable is not that easy to replace like, ankers wont fit they cant clip all the way. If someone find one that fit, let me know.
I'm really late, but you can try tft or silicone grease on the squeaky parts
Better off using knife oil. Trust me.
I think a lot of your disappointment is from lack of power, or an amplifier that does not work well with these headphones. I like the Liquid Spark for its price. I use a Liquid Carbon X and Sabaj D5 daily But my Beyerdynamics and Sennheisers are very boring without some power behind them. The dt 1770 and 58x jubilees in particular do not extend well into the sub bass without some power. I have been far more interested in bass extension over bass humps. My LCD 2s are flat as a board in bass but with power the slam is physical in nature and still very detailed.
But I do cheat a little with them and put a 3db shelf in bass/sub bass area. My DT 1770s have way more bass even well into the sub bass region but little to no physical feeling or "slam" My Jubilees however do in-fact have slam with the right amplifier Sennheiser 600-650-580 series seem to like tube amps and the Beyers sound great on them too. I was confused about what you were hearing and thats the only thing that makes sense to me.
I bought an Audio Technica ATH-MSR7b can after watching this review
i just got mine right now the black and blue. it sounds so good just as I remembered , its light weight and really comfortable.
I have a galaxy note 9 and it has a 3.5 jack. Will msr7b be supported on my note 9 or I will need an external cable?
paritosh nirvana I think it will
Soundwise my phillips Fidelio X2HR beat the focal bathys and the shure aonic 40
I returned the bathys and aonic 50 . I will never be returning my X2HR .
I had the athm50x a long time ago and loved them but the ear cups material started just flaking off and would be all over my ears which no other headphone has ever done that that ive owned and theynare the onlynheadphones ive owned that broke .
Hello good sir.. Question for you.. I have 300 to spend and im looking for the MOST comfortable and decent "bass" sound signature.. I dont care for noise cancelling at all.. Can you point me in the right direction.. And I have a dac.. LG g7
Probably gonna wanna look at a 660s or 650s from Sennheiser. They're about the only brand that goes for extreme sound clarity, perhaps too much so (If you think Audio Technica's sound signature is "too flat" then you'll hate Sennheiser headphones).
i have a dt880,but i also want a msr7b.
Is it worth +80$€ compared to DT770?
Sorry for the stupid question, i've always been using a jack 3.5mm cable for listening to music and i wondered if i could plug this headphone into my phone, thank you
You can ! It comes with a 4.4mm jack cable and a classic 3.5mm.
Hastou but if I plug it into my phone will it still sound amazing or will the quality degrade because sometimes headphones of this quality sound not that good in phones because they need more power to be heard to their potential
@@fluffypenguin888ramirez6 if you really want to get the most out of your headphone then no a phone wont do the trick that good. although i am going to use it with my Walkman (old school cassette tapes) so for me it doesnt matter. but if you want to have it sound better on the pc for example get a DAC system or what ever.
Hello, very professional review, how they compare with the sony 1000x m3? I want to get FIIO BTR 3 to pair. I am using note 9, LDAC is from Sony so i think they tested the codec on Sony headphones more. I will use the headphones for gaming, content creation, flac listening and light music creation (techno with digital sounds).
They have software problems, it doesn't change to LDAC on my note9 so that's why i will use that + pc usage wireless.
The XM3 isnt very detailed. If you want a nice sounding can just get the msr7. Personally i didnt like what they did with the msr7b with how they tightened the bass at the expense of peaky treable
@@llysender Thanks for the reply, i've got the m70x with the ifi nano black dac/amp, they sound amazing, i love that the bass is deep and is it not overwhelming.
Security Frist is that combination your official favorite set up?
@@fluffypenguin888ramirez6 i don't have multiple headsets in the audiophile area. You want to buy dac/headset for?
I envy you people who can comfortably wear MSR7s. While I somewhat like how they sound, I have to sold them within 4 months due to excessive amount of pain on my head. PS. Sometimes, the mid-range bump does hurt my ears through some records.
Same. I had the MSR7SE which has better padding then the regular version, but it's still hurting my head. I tried stretching them over the box, followed InnerFidelity's video to make it more comfortable, and the clamp force becomes soo much better but it's still causing pain around the ear everytime I use it. Maybe it's because I wear glasses. It's a shame, because I really liked how it sound, but I ended up selling it after 1 month of of usage.
I’ve had mine on for 3 hours
Get hifiman Sundaras, they need a decent amp but sound great and are better and faster on lows than hd650.
I have the MSR7’s mine never squeaks at all
well it’s reassuring to know that good pairs do exist. Mine were HORRIBLE for squeaking - I have however moved to MSR7-B’s and they’re much better for that, as well as slightly sharper sound, lighter and less clamping force. The MSR7’s were a bit tight for my head, but I’m a big guy so I might not be the best point of reference for that.
Got these on sale for $90 off. Hope your review is accurate
Where do you get at these price ???
@@jacast12 It was a one-day sale at Amazon.ca.
What about the newer SR9?
The SR9 is the bastard child of the MSR7SE and the MSR7B (both of which I own).
Apparently they are more fatiguing to listen to than the MSR7 (which has an insane amount of detail, but it'll punch treble into your ears)
@@SyncF I've been wearing the SR9's for three months now as my daily drivers. From the vantage point of a video editor I think these are great... My only complaint was the noisy headphone cable they came with, but that was easy to fix. Now the M50's... those are fatiguing!
MSR7-B’s
Are great. Everything is better than the original except for bass.
Barely no difference.
If you are using a DAC AMP, add a little bass boost, it will sound perfect if you want some fun.
i just got the msr7 b in black for 140 on amazon prime, they are for sure way more comfortable than the msr7's they also sound really good.
TheReclaimerRx7 can you use them with an iPhone?
fluffypenguin888 Ramirez I got the iPhone 8 Plus so it doesn’t have headphone jack, but I bought a 3.5 to lightning but it’s really inconvenient, I would go for a wireless pair to go with an iphone
TheReclaimerRx7 thanks also do they sound great on the iPhone or do they sound trash or not
Oh no they sound great too, be careful though I have heard they are selling fake Chinese tipoffs of these.
TheReclaimerRx7 also do you use a dac/amp with these? Because I plan on using them with the ifi hip dac? Do you think it’s a good combo?
Have you tried MSR7SE? I heard they kinda sound the same with MSR7 B while having those MSR7 cables but of course without that balance cables from B ver
No actually I haven’t tried them yet. I imagine they’re built similar to the msr7’s?
@@AdamDuffArt similar build but no creaking issue and a tad comfier pad
@@AdamDuffArt I think they are 100% the same, just the SE have a different driver housing. Some claims it sounds better tho.
@@tangtangtang1372 I own and have used both. The MSR7SE has better bass overall, cleaner lows, has the driver of the SR9, so they're not even remotely close to being the same.
The connectors are actually A2DC, not Mini-XLR
Or maybe that’s just for the Japanese version.
I'm looking to get a longer 4.4mm Pentacon Balanced Cable for the MSR7-B then the one it comes with. Like maybe 8 to 10 feet long. Would I need to get one made custom or are there some on the market to buy already? Do any other brand's headphone's use this same type connection the MSR7B uses? Thanks
@@JTB-- I have not seen any A2DC Bal to 4.4mm Bal cables that long, however, you can try your luck on Aliexpress since they have cables with lots of customizability there, you just needa keep searching. However, I would get it custom made if I could unless it is way to expensive, mostly because of reliability since stuff on Aliexpress can be sketchy and can lack in quality. As for other headphones that use this connector, I have not seen any at all and there will likely not be any, A2DC was developed by Audio Technica themselves so I doubt that it will be used on any other audio devices other than Audio Technica’s.
@@niko1even Appreciate the info. I'll have to check out some of the places that make custom cables to see if it's worth it. Thanks! 👍
What we've concluded here is that audio is highly subjective and not everyone's ears hearing is the same
Retro Plus and people have different references and likings
“Who monitors with open back headphones?” Urm 😅
Do you monitor with open back headphones or not
Can we plug it straight to a smartphone
Yes, it’s very easy to drive, but you might not get very tight and punchy bass, depends on your smartphone. To get the best out of MSR7b, you’ll need a DAC amp for that.
not buying just for dumb cables
i use beats and I am happy
Ok