Flat Earther Fails to Fake a JWST Image - Pseudoscientist #9
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Today we're looking at a flat earther who decided to show how easy it is to fake images from the James Webb space telescope. Unfortunately several things were not considered, and they didn't exactly make they point they were trying to make
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Aside from the bad job he does faking, he's using the fallacious argument "If it can be faked, then it must be faked."
The list of fields that flat earthers don’t understand is huge, but it wouldn’t be so annoying if they didn’t believe themselves to be more knowledgeable than actual experts.
If they didn't believe themselves to be more knowledgeable than actual experts they wouldn't be flat-earthers.
Indeed Gleem thinks he knows more about Electronics me, An actual Electronics Engineer.
They know absolutely nothing about absolutely everything. It should be embarrassing and shameful to them but instead they flaunt their ignorance like it is a badge of honor. Very puzzling. But at least they haven't thwarted anything as far as space exploration. Just petty nuisance's on CZcams
This is the very definition of the Dunning Krueger effect.
Just saying...
I once had the pleasure of working with a flatearther. He tried showing me a video of various photographs compared side by side, one of a NASA photo and the other of those takes by regular people. My response was telling him a $400 camera will have different quality in images than that of a $4 million camera.
A definitely real image from the James Webb Space Telescope has a caption “NASA James Web” with a single b in its name. Absolutely credible.
Good old flatearthers and their 'this doesn't look the way I think it should, must be fake' logic. Because we all know that flat earthers know more about every relevant field than people who dedicate their entire life to it.
I think the biggest mistake here is that telescopes don't capture pictures. Every modern telescope used by scientists captures digital data from an array of sensors in multiple spectra. These data sets can be hundreds to millions of gigabytes of data. You can download these data sets and create the pictures yourself. You can compare data sets taken by different telescopes of the same object and see they aren't copies, but real sets of captured data describing the same object.
well, if you go that way than no digital camera captures picture, the sensor just detects how many photons hit a pixel and the hardware of the camera transfers that data into a picture. but yes, telescopes themself don't capture pictures, just like a lens of a camera. but cameras attached to telescopes do capture fotos. ofc. all scientifically used cameras only produce black/white pictures. then they have to get processed (stacked, sharpened, denoised, colorized - by defining colors for each filter that got used when taking the foto,... )to look like what we get to see when they show them to us.
Don't pretend or expect a flat earther to understand anything about telescopes. They haven't even figured out how a lens works much less getting into other frequencies.
"Graphic Design Is My Passion."
*BUT NOT WITHIN HIS ABILITY...
AN ADD-ON HE CONVENIENTLY LEFT OUT..
“It’s time to tell your friends and family… the Earth is FLAT!”
[translation]
“It’s time to tell your flatmates… you have NO FRIENDS!”
Right? If I told my friends and family I believe the earth is flat they would form an intervention and put me on powerful meds.
The flat earthers seem to want as much exposure as possible. 🤣
Pun intended...i guess?🤣
@@misterjoerg8086 😉
Well done. Quite the enjoyable joke.
Preferably not while shouting at kids in school...
That reminds me of the early stages of my IT career, translating manuals and software. To get the translations correct I had to learn a lot about that software, how it worked and its background and fundamentals in both languages, so I badgered our typesetter, our photographer and our photo editor, each of them experienced, trained and educated masters in their own field. Even though I got the translations correct I didn't become an expert in any of their fields and I would never claim to be.
Christmas presents fall into 3 categories... like any other gift.
Need.
Want.
Useful.
Unless you're insane, a flat earth app fits none.
Wrong. There's only one category that presents fall into. MINE!
@@HughJarsz you mf Grinch beast... jokes on you, I can't afford to gift anyone atm... you got my opinion.
Fourth category: Prank
You missed the 4th category, comedy.
Was that a parody or a spoof? When I heard the voice over in the videos being criticized I first assumed it was PW making a funny voice.
I still couldn't tell. Maybe Dave doesn't talk in his videos. he just uses text narration.
Damn, my best idea for you for Christmas was a specific app ... I might re-think that now ;)
I like how they hammer on about trusting your eyes and that all high quality video you see is faked and cgi, no matter how incredibly difficult that would be. Then to prove their worldview they use a video of such horrendous quality that you could in fact fake it and it would be hard to spot because of how pixelated it is.
Am I understanding this correctly? That guy combined NASA photos to create a fake NASA photo, and believes that proves NASA photos are fake?
pretty much
Why do they sound like planarwalk doing a funny voice?
Yeah. Maybe this guy doesn't speak English and Planarwalk is providing the voice? Or they made up a fake flat earther for this list? No idea what is going on here. Maybe we are just being trolled? lol
Because they don't have any kind of voiceover, I add one in
@@Planarwalk
😐😐😐😮😮😮😐😐😐
@@Planarwalk it just really felt like an april fools video
100% I thought plaanrealk was debunking themselves 🤣
I would have cracked up so hard if that was the case.
Side note though, Flat Earth Dave is FED 😉
Using sciency words like 'exposure setting' in adressing a flerfer may not be the best plan.
So NASA fakes space photos by making collages using...um, real photos they took of space lol? That's a new one, I'll give him that.
“My one video of the moon getting smaller means you can ignore all the other photos/videos that show the sun and moon staying the same size” but that’s flat earth logic for you.
Some points of note. The diffraction spikes can be removed and added computationally. Iirc, the fallowing programs allow this to be done: pixinsight, gnu octave (bring your own code), fitswork and imageJ. You can also produce the stars computationally, but as soon as nebula and galaxies are involved, creating them become far more exoensive computationally.
5:58 The original creator is "Sann Ingen".
That means "the truth" in misspelled swedish. I think this guy is just trolling.
I can only imagine the conversations around the table on DITRH or Kaleb's christmas dinner. It must be hilarious.
Just more Dunning-Kruger in action
Oh geez!!! That really is his voice. I thought that was Planar doing a joke imitation! LOL
I seriously wondered the same thing
nahhh thats planar
Okay yeah I looked up flat earth dave's channel and this is planar. I feel silly
This 'flerf' feels more like some form of satire...
Its nikki itself 😂
i like how one of the b keys on the keyboard is just eternally pressed
B flat flat flatter
I'm here to gauge my stupidity against any flat earther. Thank goodness, I am still smarter than any flat earther.
Just by typing that you cleared that bar!
Then again, there are little lizards around here called skinks; judged by their behaviour, they are smarter than the flerfs too. 🤫
Haha you trolling around is funny. 2:30
Your accent is one of a kind😂
Arrgh! Ya killing me! 5am updates on YT. Such a cruel mistress 😊
I, too, watched the Hank Green video and immediately went "the spikes are wrong" when looking at the thumbnail
Tbf there is a possibility that Hank might watch this video, for chuckles at the goofy flerfs.
GOOD OL' HANK! Glad he survived his cancer..
I'm worried about the state of the closest B key on your keyboard.
Thanks Planarwalk!
8:20 That would require learning and id flerfs were willing to learn, they wouldn't be flerfs. It goes against their religion, its the 12th commandment, it was on the tablet Mosses dropped. It's just after "Thou shalth do they own research which means only listen to and regurgitate what we say and not what anyone else says even if they are backed by facts and evidence."
I don't know if this is a generational thing or uniquely Australian but sometime in their childhood most Aussie kids imagine the scenario where the Queen, now the King, came to their suburban hovel for high tea. Hank Green seeing your shoutout and commenting would be the CZcams equivalent.
Also he didn't included the gravitational lensing we can see with JWT.
But gravity not real. /s
@@nonna_sof5889 Nothing in flerfland is real except the utter stupidity of it all.
I would just ask a flerf to walk outside with me as the moon set, and ask him if he can see it moving away from us. I've never seen the moon moving away as it set. I imagine no flerf has ever seen that either, assuming any of them ever watched a moonset and not just a recording of one.
I've sailed the oceans and have seen many, many moonrises and moonsets and sunrises and sunsets. You will not find any flat earth sailors, ever.
One thing you can depend on is that flat earthers have no idea how their equipment works.
Probably why none of them have ever had sex with another human being (just trying to be non-judgmental).
People who spend a lot of time telling people to "trust their senses" sure do like to present a lot of evidence that only works through the lens of a camera.
(well no, it doesn't work, but they think it works)
With Photoshop you can create all sorts of fake images. That doesn't mean that all images are fake does it?
It's known, logically, as the Photoshop fallacy - if one image can be faked then all images are faked (excepting the ones on my driving licence, bus pass and passport).
By now evwn CC, Chris, from New York, Westchester County, has started to recommend that grift app :0
Love your shirt and Blahaj (I watched the video with mine).
Wait - so he took actual photographs, combined them to create a fake image and then claimed that proves the original actual photographs are fakes. Really??? Now, that is funny!
3:12 you can also see the video made by Matt Parker (standupmaths) if youre interested in how the diffraction spikes (?) are produced
Dave Weiss, so sure of his derpitude!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reason flat earthers are so bad with cameras is because anyone good with cameras has figured out the earth can't be flat. The ignorance truly is bliss with flerfers but the rest of us just laugh and them while mocking and ridiculing. They are rather low hanging fruit.
I mean, they are so proud of their Nikon P1000s, it'd be a shame to show them a professional set-up and what it can do. Over to you Dave McKeegan.
Okay... The Moon thing was... unsettling? Hasn't this person ever watched the Moon rise or set with human eyes?
Old Mother Hubble
Went to her bubble
To get her poor Sirius a bone
When she got there
The bubble was bear
She said "Ursa Major? RUN!"
Most of these idiots try to do is instead of trying to convince us the Earth is flat, but to try to debunk the Earth is round. You tell us this can't happen, but yet you don't tell us how it works on a flat Earth. You can't prove something by trying to disprove something.
There's no way this guy's a legit Flerf. He's gotta be a poe.
Space comma!
they pick far northern latitudes for these types of videos, because the angle to the sun or moon is very low to the horizon and spends much more time where it's light is filtered by the atmosphere. this proves that it's an intentional grift.
Just like how they seem to really not like the South
Job well done, I'm impressed.
faking a nasa photo while poorly doing a conspiracy catz imitation ... man i miss his channels
Upper left Dunning Kruger.
Dave's not here, man.
Thanks Hank Green!
You are putting so many vids online the last week... its crazy!
Did you break your foot or something? Where do you find the time for it
Oh man, I love you so much, almost as much as I love your Baphy.
(When I say 'Oh man', that's an expression of wonder, I didn't mean to misgender you!)
If flerfs just done a course in photoshop...
he sounds like the chef off the muppets
Ok so who's making the funds to get planar this app for Christmas
No, don't!
So, because photo-collages exist, photos that are not collages do not? What the heck is being collaged together then? What was the point of this?
7:35 Switch the camera to M (= manual) or is it impossible with a P900/P1000?
their background music makes me think they are a parody channel.
I replaced the BG music and dubbed it because copyright and because Dave didn't dub it himself.
@@Planarwalk
Ah okay, lmao guess you choose the right one then.
Kiwis come from the future. Deal with it 😂
0:29 well i'm not that opposed to the idea myself, if it really showed the correct data for which places are illuminated throughout the year, i would unironically use it as a curiosity gadget. (Not because that's how the earth looks, but because it's an interesting perspective, using a projection that ttbomk is the only one with such an asymmetrical state.)
2:37 well, i'm going to *_know_* it's not from JWST since NASA would surely know how to spell Webb. 🧐
5:55 "Orininal"? Should i teach my spellchecker to whitelist that one? 😈
How does one get the FE Clock app for PlanarWalk?
fake photos by using real photos ?
Did they have photoshop software in the 60s and 70s?Umm no don’t think so
That's a cute shirt! Where'd you get it :3c
+1! Me wants to know toooo
Has he never watched the moon set? Or rise? It certainly doesn't get smaller as it sets. And doesn't get bigger as it rises. In fact, an optical illusion makes the moon look bigger on the horizon. Even the flat earthers he aims that video at must have noticed that at some point in their lives?
Why does Flat Earth Dave sound like you doing a funny voice?
That music 😂
He's not bad at Photoshop, he's bad at astronomy! Also, although your explanation about the Moon is correct, this muppet has gone out of his way to make the exposure exaggerate the Moon's size - in other words, you cannot get a fixed exposure setting or an automatic setting to make the exposures we see, these settings had to be manually and deliberately set!
My next question has to be... is that voice for real or is this just sarcasm???
That voice is nikki itself....
I don't like how you treat your piano bro, at least it's not a professional weighted keyboard
Thanks!
I noticed right away the misaligned diffraction spikes on the stars and that they were from Hubble and not the James Webb by looking at the thumbnail. This space image is trash. I'm guessing he wasn't trying? But then why do it if you're not going to try to prove your argument? Surely he can see his image looks terrible compared to actual NASA photos.
Bad photography proves a flatearth 😂😅🤣
The mern is clerse to us is it?
I apologize for my comment on your previous video. I no longer think that idda be a'ight. With a a bit of luck most of it will be. But this bit? Not suh much.
I think the main reason that the Moon appeared to get smaller is because the foreground was getting darker which led to the Moon getting less overexposed.
And much lower.
2:38 the guy can't even spell "Webb".. what are you realistically expecting from him?
Welcome to The List. "What list?", you may ask. The list of Tubers I am going to try my best to avoid in the future. Just because you have a webcam & a CZcams account doesn't mean you should be posting videos.
I'm sure you'll be sorely missed.
@@MainlyHuman God, I hope not.
Did you rerecord the talking?
Because it sounds alot like you!
I mean the Flatearther!
Dave Weiss #2?
let's also point out that not only does perspective dictate that objects appear to get smaller as they get farther away, but the speed that they appear to lower will slow down the farther away they are. that video shows the uniform movement of the moon, but due to perspective the moon's apparent setting would slow down.
of course, let's not leave out that normal people can easily calculate the effects of perspective so that we know that the sun, moon, stars or planets can never set on flattardia. it just isn't large enough. in fact the flattardia sun or moon can't get within 20 degrees of the horizon.
Dave is so lazy.
In that second video which be "borrowed" he had only one job: to credit the "ORININAL" creator.
At least he didn't spell it "urinal".
FAKING HELL!
❤
How do you Ner it's a ferk Pherto? There we Ger der we?
lol @ that first reason.
The chances for a Brian keep increasing.
STATE of it 😒
its hilarious to make a video trying to show something that your naked eye can disprove by not being a camera xD
Skills and knowledge, from a flat earther? Come on man, not happening.
funny how fake his pic looks, almost as if he can't tell fake from real or is just a scam artist
There is a flat earth app 😂
Yup. And he's made a fortune from it.
You have to be bad at cameras to be a flat earther. It’s a tautology.